Debian bug report logs - #1313
sysvinit-2.57b

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In-Reply-To: <cMjmt97xk1@muskogee.elmail.co.uk> (message from Richard
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Subject: Re: Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b
From: Karl Eichwalder <ke@ke.Central.DE>

    Richard> The PPP package has /etc/ppp/README which is a symlink to a
    Richard> file in /usr/doc.

I consider those links as a bad idea.  dpkg provides the -L switch;
voila, there's all you need:

# dpkg -L sysvinit | egrep 'doc|README'
/etc/init.d/README
/usr/doc
/usr/doc/copyright
/usr/doc/copyright/sysvinit

README files have to go to /usr/doc/... .

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Subject: Re: Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b
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In article <m0sq3lG-0003BQC@luna.pertron.central.de> ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder) writes:

> Package: sysvinit
> Version: 2.57b
> Debian_Version: 0
> 
> BTW, I've installed the base system and some additional packages, but I'm
> still missing `last'.

last is in the acct package.

	Sven
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Karl Eichwalder writes:

>Package: sysvinit
>Version: 2.57b
>Debian_Version: 0
>
>debian.README: primary FTP site for the source is not mentioned.
>
>init.d/README: Thanks for it, but please move it to /usr/doc/..

The PPP package has /etc/ppp/README which is a symlink to a file in
/usr/doc.  Perhaps that's the way to go for init as well?

>BTW, I've installed the base system and some additional packages, but I'm
>still missing `last'.

It's in the acct package.

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From: ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder)
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In-Reply-To: <m0sq7GH-000F9MC@mongo.pixar.com> (message from Bruce Perens on
	Tue, 05 Sep 1995 16:18:36 -0700)
Subject: Re: Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b

    Bruce> I think "last" is in its own package, probably under the
    Bruce> "text" subdirectory.  The base system includes "more".

No.  I don't look for the pager, but for the tool which reads utmp/wtmp
and displays the last LOGINs.  The last from sysvinit does this duty,
you don't install it, obviously for reasons, since it is intentionally
commented (`#') in the Makefile.

Best whishes, Karl.

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From: Ian Jackson <iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk>
To: ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder), debian-bugs@pixar.com
Subject: Re: Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b
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Karl Eichwalder writes ("Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b"):
> There is no info, how to update from a prior version--or is it secure
> simply to do `dpkg -r sysvinit' and then `dpkg -i sysvinit-2.57b-0.deb'?

The standard way to upgrade any Debian package is simply to use dpkg
--install to install the new version.  The old one will be cleaned up
automatically.

Do not attempt to remove the sysvinit package with dpkg -r.  If you're
lucky dpkg will refuse; if you're unlucky your system will probably be
screwed.

> /etc/inet.d/functions: has mode 644; should 755?

As I wrote earlier:
] There is little reason for files in /etc/init.d to use the `functions'
] file.  The file `functions' on my system contains
] 
] * code to set PREVLEVEL and RUNLEVEL based on the output of the
] `runlevel' command.  The only scripts in /etc/init.d that use it are
] `rc' and `powerfail' - arguably this could be done by using `runlevel'
] directly in those scripts.
] 
] * shell functions `daemon' and `stop' that do a half-baked version of
] `start-stop-daemon'.  Scripts should use `start-stop-daemon' instead;
] the `daemon' and `stop' functions are not reliable.  There are no
] scripts in my /etc/init.d directory that use `daemon' or `stop'.
] 
] I suggest that the file `functions' be removed.

Ian.

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Subject: Re: Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b 
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ke@pertron.central.de said:
> Package: sysvinit Version: 2.57b Debian_Version: 0

> /etc/inet.d/functions: has mode 644; should 755?

We have some reasons to remove this file, as start-stop-daemon provides a
better replacement for the functions in it. For now, I think this is only
used with the "." (source) command, and it will work fine when mode 644.

> There is no info, how to update from a prior version

Don't try to remove the old package first. Make sure you are running an
up-to-date version of dpkg - at least 0.93.70, and then just install the new
package with "dpkg -i <file>" .

> BTW, I've installed the base system and some additional packages, but 
> I'm still missing `last'.

I think "last" is in its own package, probably under the "text" subdirectory.
The base system includes "more".

	Thanks

	Bruce

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From: ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder)
To: debian-bugs@pixar.com
Subject: sysvinit-2.57b

Package: sysvinit
Version: 2.57b
Debian_Version: 0

debian.README: primary FTP site for the source is not mentioned.

init.d/README: Thanks for it, but please move it to /usr/doc/..

/etc/inet.d/functions: has mode 644; should 755?

There is no info, how to update from a prior version--or is it secure
simply to do `dpkg -r sysvinit' and then `dpkg -i sysvinit-2.57b-0.deb'?

BTW, I've installed the base system and some additional packages, but I'm
still missing `last'.

Best whishes, Karl.