Debian bug report logs - #579
missing /usr/man/man8 manpages
Package: image (?); Reported by: Bill Mitchell <mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com>; 239 days old.
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> I'd like volunteer(s) to write these two manpages, please. The
> scripts seem to be stable, and they're small.
I'll write the man page for update-rc.d.
-D.J. Gregor
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> I'd like volunteer(s) to write these two manpages, please. The
> scripts seem to be stable, and they're small.
I'll write the man page for update-rc.d.
-D.J. Gregor
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Subject: Re: Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages
754
>
> Bill Mitchell writes ("Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages"):
> > It seems like we ought to figure out what our policy is on who should
> > supply manpages and, once we know what our policy is, check to see
> > that we follow it.
>
> How about the following design criteria:
>
> * There should be no manpages installed unless the corresponding
> program is installed.
>
> * If man.deb is installed all the base system manpages should be.
>
> * If a program is installed its manpages should usually be, though
> this may require installation of an additional package, say fooman.deb
> (which would be Recommended: by the original foo.deb), or man.deb.
>
> This leads me to the following proposed policy:
>
> * A base system package should contain manpages for its programs
> either in itself or in man.deb. We may wish to decide that all the
> base system manpages should be in man.deb, though this may prove
> logistically difficult and may cross boundaries between developers in
> a nasty way.
>
> * A non-base package should contain all of its manpages in its .deb
> file or in a separate fooman.deb file. The latter doesn't seem too
> helpful for most packages, so it should probably be discouraged.
>
> * There should be no manpages in man.deb relating to non-base
> packages.
>
> > While looking at this, I noted that a number of the /usr/man/man8
> > manpages document programs which are installed in directories other
> > than /sbin and /usr/sbin.
>
> This is normal. A nice example is install-info, which should be in
> the normal PATH because it might be used to update a user's private
> info `dir' file, but whose manpage definitely belongs in section 8.
> Section 8 is for system maintenance commands, many of which are also
> useful to the normal user and so belong in .../bin rather than sbin.
>
> Ian.
>
>
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754
>
> Bill Mitchell writes ("Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages"):
> > It seems like we ought to figure out what our policy is on who should
> > supply manpages and, once we know what our policy is, check to see
> > that we follow it.
>
> How about the following design criteria:
>
> * There should be no manpages installed unless the corresponding
> program is installed.
>
> * If man.deb is installed all the base system manpages should be.
>
> * If a program is installed its manpages should usually be, though
> this may require installation of an additional package, say fooman.deb
> (which would be Recommended: by the original foo.deb), or man.deb.
>
> This leads me to the following proposed policy:
>
> * A base system package should contain manpages for its programs
> either in itself or in man.deb. We may wish to decide that all the
> base system manpages should be in man.deb, though this may prove
> logistically difficult and may cross boundaries between developers in
> a nasty way.
>
> * A non-base package should contain all of its manpages in its .deb
> file or in a separate fooman.deb file. The latter doesn't seem too
> helpful for most packages, so it should probably be discouraged.
>
> * There should be no manpages in man.deb relating to non-base
> packages.
>
> > While looking at this, I noted that a number of the /usr/man/man8
> > manpages document programs which are installed in directories other
> > than /sbin and /usr/sbin.
>
> This is normal. A nice example is install-info, which should be in
> the normal PATH because it might be used to update a user's private
> info `dir' file, but whose manpage definitely belongs in section 8.
> Section 8 is for system maintenance commands, many of which are also
> useful to the normal user and so belong in .../bin rather than sbin.
>
> Ian.
>
>
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Subject: Re: Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages
Bill Mitchell writes ("Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages"):
> The following programs are missing manpages: [...]
> /usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon
> /usr/sbin/update-rc.d
I'd like volunteer(s) to write these two manpages, please. The
scripts seem to be stable, and they're small.
NB that I'd expect a manpage to be more than a converted usage
message. Detailed descriptions (reverse engineered from the code and
from common sense) of the actions of the script and the semantics of
the options are required.
start-stop-daemon is in Perl, update-rc.d is in sh. The volunteer
for each manpage will have to be competent at reading another
programmer's code in Perl or sh, respectively.
Ian.
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Bill Mitchell writes ("Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages"):
> The following programs are missing manpages: [...]
> /usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon
> /usr/sbin/update-rc.d
I'd like volunteer(s) to write these two manpages, please. The
scripts seem to be stable, and they're small.
NB that I'd expect a manpage to be more than a converted usage
message. Detailed descriptions (reverse engineered from the code and
from common sense) of the actions of the script and the semantics of
the options are required.
start-stop-daemon is in Perl, update-rc.d is in sh. The volunteer
for each manpage will have to be competent at reading another
programmer's code in Perl or sh, respectively.
Ian.
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Bill Mitchell writes ("Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages"):
> It seems like we ought to figure out what our policy is on who should
> supply manpages and, once we know what our policy is, check to see
> that we follow it.
How about the following design criteria:
* There should be no manpages installed unless the corresponding
program is installed.
* If man.deb is installed all the base system manpages should be.
* If a program is installed its manpages should usually be, though
this may require installation of an additional package, say fooman.deb
(which would be Recommended: by the original foo.deb), or man.deb.
This leads me to the following proposed policy:
* A base system package should contain manpages for its programs
either in itself or in man.deb. We may wish to decide that all the
base system manpages should be in man.deb, though this may prove
logistically difficult and may cross boundaries between developers in
a nasty way.
* A non-base package should contain all of its manpages in its .deb
file or in a separate fooman.deb file. The latter doesn't seem too
helpful for most packages, so it should probably be discouraged.
* There should be no manpages in man.deb relating to non-base
packages.
> While looking at this, I noted that a number of the /usr/man/man8
> manpages document programs which are installed in directories other
> than /sbin and /usr/sbin.
This is normal. A nice example is install-info, which should be in
the normal PATH because it might be used to update a user's private
info `dir' file, but whose manpage definitely belongs in section 8.
Section 8 is for system maintenance commands, many of which are also
useful to the normal user and so belong in .../bin rather than sbin.
Ian.
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Bill Mitchell writes ("Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages"):
> It seems like we ought to figure out what our policy is on who should
> supply manpages and, once we know what our policy is, check to see
> that we follow it.
How about the following design criteria:
* There should be no manpages installed unless the corresponding
program is installed.
* If man.deb is installed all the base system manpages should be.
* If a program is installed its manpages should usually be, though
this may require installation of an additional package, say fooman.deb
(which would be Recommended: by the original foo.deb), or man.deb.
This leads me to the following proposed policy:
* A base system package should contain manpages for its programs
either in itself or in man.deb. We may wish to decide that all the
base system manpages should be in man.deb, though this may prove
logistically difficult and may cross boundaries between developers in
a nasty way.
* A non-base package should contain all of its manpages in its .deb
file or in a separate fooman.deb file. The latter doesn't seem too
helpful for most packages, so it should probably be discouraged.
* There should be no manpages in man.deb relating to non-base
packages.
> While looking at this, I noted that a number of the /usr/man/man8
> manpages document programs which are installed in directories other
> than /sbin and /usr/sbin.
This is normal. A nice example is install-info, which should be in
the normal PATH because it might be used to update a user's private
info `dir' file, but whose manpage definitely belongs in section 8.
Section 8 is for system maintenance commands, many of which are also
useful to the normal user and so belong in .../bin rather than sbin.
Ian.
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From: mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell)
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To: debian-bugs@pixar.com, matt@aodc.gov.au
Subject: Re: Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages
matt@aodc.gov.au (Matthew Hannigan) said:
> > name=`basename $8 .8`
> ^^
> > [ .. ]
>
> Is this just a typo in your message or is it
> in your working script?
Sigh.... It's a typo in the script itself, of course, and not
the only problem with it. Thanks for seeing that I'd missed this
and rubbing my nose in it. I can use a good public drubbing every
now and then ;-).
This comes from typing the script directly into "cat>scriptfile"
after base system install, and then proofreading carefully enough,
and being too rushed to validate the output before posting it.
( I see that the base system now does include /usr/bin/ed, and I
really ought to reacquaint myself with ed. )
I've fixed the problems I saw and re-run the script on a virgin
0.93R4 installation. I've also added a script sections to detect
and report man8 programs installed in the bin directories and
man1 programs installed in the sbin directories.
Here's the revised script, for your proofreading pleasure.
#!/bin/sh
#
echo
echo programs without man8 pages
for i in /sbin/* /usr/sbin/*
do
name=`basename $i .8`
if [ ! -f /usr/man/man8/$name.8 ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo programs without man1 pages
for i in /bin/* /usr/bin/*
do
name=`basename $i .1`
if [ ! -f /usr/man/man1/$name.1 ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo man8 pages without programs in /sbin, /usr/sbin
for i in /usr/man/man8/*
do
name=`basename $i .8`
if [ ! -f /sbin/$name -a ! -f /usr/sbin/$name ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo man8 programs installed in /bin, /usr/bin
for i in /usr/man/man8/*
do
name=`basename $i .8`
if [ -f /bin/$name ]
then
echo $i /bin/$name
fi
if [ -f /usr/bin/$name ]
then
echo $i /usr/bin/$name
fi
done
#
echo
echo man1 pages without programs in /bin, /usr/bin
for i in /usr/man/man1/*
do
name=`basename $i .1`
if [ ! -f /bin/$name -a ! -f /usr/bin/$name ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo man1 programs installed in /sbin, /usr/sbin
for i in /usr/man/man1/*
do
name=`basename $i .1`
if [ -f /sbin/$name ]
then
echo $i /sbin/$name
fi
if [ -f /usr/sbin/$name ]
then
echo $i /usr/sbin/$name
fi
done
#
And here's the output it produces when run on a virgin 0.93R4 system:
programs without man8 pages
/sbin/depmod
/sbin/ifconfig
/sbin/insmod
/sbin/installkernel
/sbin/ksyms
/sbin/lsmod
/sbin/modprobe
/sbin/rmmod
/sbin/route
/usr/sbin/flushb
/usr/sbin/mkboot
programs without man1 pages
/bin/dmesg
/bin/mount
/bin/nm
/bin/perl
/bin/rbash
/bin/run-parts
/bin/sync
/bin/tar
/bin/umount
/usr/bin/[
/usr/bin/banner
/usr/bin/bashbug
/usr/bin/chvt
/usr/bin/cmp
/usr/bin/diff
/usr/bin/diff3
/usr/bin/disalloc
/usr/bin/dpkg
/usr/bin/dpkg-deb
/usr/bin/dselect
/usr/bin/fdformat
/usr/bin/genksyms
/usr/bin/getopt
/usr/bin/install-info
/usr/bin/mapscrn
/usr/bin/md5sum
/usr/bin/perl
/usr/bin/renice
/usr/bin/resize
/usr/bin/sdiff
/usr/bin/setfdprm
/usr/bin/setfont
/usr/bin/showfont
/usr/bin/tput
/usr/bin/tunelp
/usr/bin/vmstat
man8 pages without programs in /sbin, /usr/sbin
/usr/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8
/usr/man/man8/dmesg.8
/usr/man/man8/dpkg-deb.8
/usr/man/man8/fdformat.8
/usr/man/man8/genksyms.8
/usr/man/man8/install-info.8
/usr/man/man8/mapscrn.8
/usr/man/man8/mount.8
/usr/man/man8/ramsize.8
/usr/man/man8/renice.8
/usr/man/man8/rootflags.8
/usr/man/man8/run-parts.8
/usr/man/man8/setfdprm.8
/usr/man/man8/setfont.8
/usr/man/man8/swapdev.8
/usr/man/man8/sync.8
/usr/man/man8/tunelp.8
/usr/man/man8/umount.8
/usr/man/man8/vidmode.8
/usr/man/man8/vmstat.8
man8 programs installed in /bin, /usr/bin
/usr/man/man8/dmesg.8 /bin/dmesg
/usr/man/man8/dpkg-deb.8 /usr/bin/dpkg-deb
/usr/man/man8/fdformat.8 /usr/bin/fdformat
/usr/man/man8/genksyms.8 /usr/bin/genksyms
/usr/man/man8/install-info.8 /usr/bin/install-info
/usr/man/man8/mapscrn.8 /usr/bin/mapscrn
/usr/man/man8/mount.8 /bin/mount
/usr/man/man8/renice.8 /usr/bin/renice
/usr/man/man8/run-parts.8 /bin/run-parts
/usr/man/man8/setfdprm.8 /usr/bin/setfdprm
/usr/man/man8/setfont.8 /usr/bin/setfont
/usr/man/man8/sync.8 /bin/sync
/usr/man/man8/tunelp.8 /usr/bin/tunelp
/usr/man/man8/umount.8 /bin/umount
/usr/man/man8/vmstat.8 /usr/bin/vmstat
man1 pages without programs in /bin, /usr/bin
/usr/man/man1/bash-builtins.1
/usr/man/man1/insmod.1
/usr/man/man1/ksyms.1
/usr/man/man1/lsmod.1
/usr/man/man1/rmmod.1
man1 programs installed in /sbin, /usr/sbin
/usr/man/man1/insmod.1 /sbin/insmod
/usr/man/man1/ksyms.1 /sbin/ksyms
/usr/man/man1/lsmod.1 /sbin/lsmod
/usr/man/man1/rmmod.1 /sbin/rmmod
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To: mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell)
Subject: Bug#579: Info received (was Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages)
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From: mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell)
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To: debian-bugs@pixar.com, matt@aodc.gov.au
matt@aodc.gov.au (Matthew Hannigan) said:
> > name=`basename $8 .8`
> ^^
> > [ .. ]
>
> Is this just a typo in your message or is it
> in your working script?
Sigh.... It's a typo in the script itself, of course, and not
the only problem with it. Thanks for seeing that I'd missed this
and rubbing my nose in it. I can use a good public drubbing every
now and then ;-).
This comes from typing the script directly into "cat>scriptfile"
after base system install, and then proofreading carefully enough,
and being too rushed to validate the output before posting it.
( I see that the base system now does include /usr/bin/ed, and I
really ought to reacquaint myself with ed. )
I've fixed the problems I saw and re-run the script on a virgin
0.93R4 installation. I've also added a script sections to detect
and report man8 programs installed in the bin directories and
man1 programs installed in the sbin directories.
Here's the revised script, for your proofreading pleasure.
#!/bin/sh
#
echo
echo programs without man8 pages
for i in /sbin/* /usr/sbin/*
do
name=`basename $i .8`
if [ ! -f /usr/man/man8/$name.8 ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo programs without man1 pages
for i in /bin/* /usr/bin/*
do
name=`basename $i .1`
if [ ! -f /usr/man/man1/$name.1 ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo man8 pages without programs in /sbin, /usr/sbin
for i in /usr/man/man8/*
do
name=`basename $i .8`
if [ ! -f /sbin/$name -a ! -f /usr/sbin/$name ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo man8 programs installed in /bin, /usr/bin
for i in /usr/man/man8/*
do
name=`basename $i .8`
if [ -f /bin/$name ]
then
echo $i /bin/$name
fi
if [ -f /usr/bin/$name ]
then
echo $i /usr/bin/$name
fi
done
#
echo
echo man1 pages without programs in /bin, /usr/bin
for i in /usr/man/man1/*
do
name=`basename $i .1`
if [ ! -f /bin/$name -a ! -f /usr/bin/$name ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo man1 programs installed in /sbin, /usr/sbin
for i in /usr/man/man1/*
do
name=`basename $i .1`
if [ -f /sbin/$name ]
then
echo $i /sbin/$name
fi
if [ -f /usr/sbin/$name ]
then
echo $i /usr/sbin/$name
fi
done
#
And here's the output it produces when run on a virgin 0.93R4 system:
programs without man8 pages
/sbin/depmod
/sbin/ifconfig
/sbin/insmod
/sbin/installkernel
/sbin/ksyms
/sbin/lsmod
/sbin/modprobe
/sbin/rmmod
/sbin/route
/usr/sbin/flushb
/usr/sbin/mkboot
programs without man1 pages
/bin/dmesg
/bin/mount
/bin/nm
/bin/perl
/bin/rbash
/bin/run-parts
/bin/sync
/bin/tar
/bin/umount
/usr/bin/[
/usr/bin/banner
/usr/bin/bashbug
/usr/bin/chvt
/usr/bin/cmp
/usr/bin/diff
/usr/bin/diff3
/usr/bin/disalloc
/usr/bin/dpkg
/usr/bin/dpkg-deb
/usr/bin/dselect
/usr/bin/fdformat
/usr/bin/genksyms
/usr/bin/getopt
/usr/bin/install-info
/usr/bin/mapscrn
/usr/bin/md5sum
/usr/bin/perl
/usr/bin/renice
/usr/bin/resize
/usr/bin/sdiff
/usr/bin/setfdprm
/usr/bin/setfont
/usr/bin/showfont
/usr/bin/tput
/usr/bin/tunelp
/usr/bin/vmstat
man8 pages without programs in /sbin, /usr/sbin
/usr/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8
/usr/man/man8/dmesg.8
/usr/man/man8/dpkg-deb.8
/usr/man/man8/fdformat.8
/usr/man/man8/genksyms.8
/usr/man/man8/install-info.8
/usr/man/man8/mapscrn.8
/usr/man/man8/mount.8
/usr/man/man8/ramsize.8
/usr/man/man8/renice.8
/usr/man/man8/rootflags.8
/usr/man/man8/run-parts.8
/usr/man/man8/setfdprm.8
/usr/man/man8/setfont.8
/usr/man/man8/swapdev.8
/usr/man/man8/sync.8
/usr/man/man8/tunelp.8
/usr/man/man8/umount.8
/usr/man/man8/vidmode.8
/usr/man/man8/vmstat.8
man8 programs installed in /bin, /usr/bin
/usr/man/man8/dmesg.8 /bin/dmesg
/usr/man/man8/dpkg-deb.8 /usr/bin/dpkg-deb
/usr/man/man8/fdformat.8 /usr/bin/fdformat
/usr/man/man8/genksyms.8 /usr/bin/genksyms
/usr/man/man8/install-info.8 /usr/bin/install-info
/usr/man/man8/mapscrn.8 /usr/bin/mapscrn
/usr/man/man8/mount.8 /bin/mount
/usr/man/man8/renice.8 /usr/bin/renice
/usr/man/man8/run-parts.8 /bin/run-parts
/usr/man/man8/setfdprm.8 /usr/bin/setfdprm
/usr/man/man8/setfont.8 /usr/bin/setfont
/usr/man/man8/sync.8 /bin/sync
/usr/man/man8/tunelp.8 /usr/bin/tunelp
/usr/man/man8/umount.8 /bin/umount
/usr/man/man8/vmstat.8 /usr/bin/vmstat
man1 pages without programs in /bin, /usr/bin
/usr/man/man1/bash-builtins.1
/usr/man/man1/insmod.1
/usr/man/man1/ksyms.1
/usr/man/man1/lsmod.1
/usr/man/man1/rmmod.1
man1 programs installed in /sbin, /usr/sbin
/usr/man/man1/insmod.1 /sbin/insmod
/usr/man/man1/ksyms.1 /sbin/ksyms
/usr/man/man1/lsmod.1 /sbin/lsmod
/usr/man/man1/rmmod.1 /sbin/rmmod
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Bill Mitchell <mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com> wrote in part
> [ .. ]
> I looked at this a bit more after getting home. I ran
> the following script on a virgin 0.93R4 install, and
> again after installing man.deb.
>
> #!/bin/sh
> [ .. ]
> echo man8 pages without programs
> for i in /usr/man/man8/*
> do
> name=`basename $8 .8`
^^
> [ .. ]
Bill,
Is this just a typo in your message or is it
in your working script?
-matt
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Bill Mitchell <mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com> wrote in part
> [ .. ]
> I looked at this a bit more after getting home. I ran
> the following script on a virgin 0.93R4 install, and
> again after installing man.deb.
>
> #!/bin/sh
> [ .. ]
> echo man8 pages without programs
> for i in /usr/man/man8/*
> do
> name=`basename $8 .8`
^^
> [ .. ]
Bill,
Is this just a typo in your message or is it
in your working script?
-matt
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I looked at this a bit more after getting home. I ran
the following script on a virgin 0.93R4 install, and
again after installing man.deb.
#!/bin/sh
#
echo
echo programs without man8 pages
for i in /sbin/* /usr/sbin/*
do
if [ ! -f /usr/man/man8/$i.8 ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo programs without man1 pages
for i in /bin/* /usr/bin/*
do
if [ ! -f /usr/man/man1/$i.1 ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo man8 pages without programs
for i in /usr/man/man8/*
do
name=`basename $8 .8`
if [ ! -f /sbin/$name -a ! -f /usr/sbin/$name ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo man1 pages without programs
for i in /usr/man/man1/*
do
name=`basename $i .1`
if [ ! -f /bin/$name -a ! -f /usr/bin/$name ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
This produced quite a list of discrepancies, which I've compressed
and uuencoded below to spare those not interested in the details.
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From: Bill Mitchell <mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com>
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I looked at this a bit more after getting home. I ran
the following script on a virgin 0.93R4 install, and
again after installing man.deb.
#!/bin/sh
#
echo
echo programs without man8 pages
for i in /sbin/* /usr/sbin/*
do
if [ ! -f /usr/man/man8/$i.8 ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo programs without man1 pages
for i in /bin/* /usr/bin/*
do
if [ ! -f /usr/man/man1/$i.1 ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo man8 pages without programs
for i in /usr/man/man8/*
do
name=`basename $8 .8`
if [ ! -f /sbin/$name -a ! -f /usr/sbin/$name ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
#
echo
echo man1 pages without programs
for i in /usr/man/man1/*
do
name=`basename $i .1`
if [ ! -f /bin/$name -a ! -f /usr/bin/$name ]
then
echo $i
fi
done
This produced quite a list of discrepancies, which I've compressed
and uuencoded below to spare those not interested in the details.
begin 644 details.gz
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CJZ'3*^/_6R>-@?9<0OTV2Z@QM)V+JP^TN/H/Z88*DV(H```S
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From: mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell)
Message-Id: <9503071650.AA13396@bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com>
To: debian-bugs@pixar.com
Subject: Re: Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages
bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) said:
> From: Bill Mitchell <mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com>
> > The following programs are missing manpages:
>
> I find manpages for some of these on my system. Can you check again?
I took a quick look. In general, the situation seems to be:
1. After base system installation, we have some programs with
manpages installed and some programs without man pages. I
haven't yet checked for man pages without programs.
2. After man.deb installation, we appear to have less programs
without man pages, but we've picked up some manpages without
programs.
3. Installation of other packages (e.g. netbase, netstd) probably
supplies more man pages for programs which were provided in
the base system without man pages.
While looking at this, I noted that a number of the /usr/man/man8
manpages document programs which are installed in directories other
than /sbin and /usr/sbin.
It seems like we ought to figure out what our policy is on who should
supply manpages and, once we know what our policy is, check to see
that we follow it.
I can survey the way things are done by the 0.93R4 base disk set
and the various .deb packages I currently have, but I'm not sure
that'd accomplish much until we determine and state the policy.
At first blush, it seems as if whoever supplies the program should
supply the man pages. An exception might be the base system, which might
supply _all_ base man pages in a separate package which could be omitted
by anyone installing a sparse system without man pages (e.g., a disk
constrained system used as an AX25 router). Anyone wishing to avoid
package man page installation might symlink /usr/man to /dev/null after
base system install (perhaps this would be best done via the existing
special initial-login dialogue. Or, it occurs to me, it could be
doce during dinstall dialogue prior to base system install -- which'd
obviate the need to separate the man pages out of the base system into
a separate package.).
Sounds like something which needs discussion, and not like something which
needs to be fixed before our still-upcoming release can take place.
As a separate issue, I noted while looking at this that the base system
supplied some programs which are later overwritten by non-base packages.
I'd have to go back and recheck to confirm details, though. I think
ping, for one, is an example of this.
Message sent:
From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson)
To: mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell)
Subject: Bug#579: Info received (was Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages)
In-Reply-To: <9503071650.AA13396@bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com>
References: <9503071650.AA13396@bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com>
Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding
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accompany the original report.
If you wish to continue submit further information on your problem,
please do the same thing again: send it to debian-bugs@pixar.com, ensuring
that the Subject line starts with "Bug#579" or "Re: Bug#579" so that
we can identify it as relating to the same problem.
Please do not to reply to the address at the top of this message,
unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system.
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To: debian-bugs@pixar.com
bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) said:
> From: Bill Mitchell <mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com>
> > The following programs are missing manpages:
>
> I find manpages for some of these on my system. Can you check again?
I took a quick look. In general, the situation seems to be:
1. After base system installation, we have some programs with
manpages installed and some programs without man pages. I
haven't yet checked for man pages without programs.
2. After man.deb installation, we appear to have less programs
without man pages, but we've picked up some manpages without
programs.
3. Installation of other packages (e.g. netbase, netstd) probably
supplies more man pages for programs which were provided in
the base system without man pages.
While looking at this, I noted that a number of the /usr/man/man8
manpages document programs which are installed in directories other
than /sbin and /usr/sbin.
It seems like we ought to figure out what our policy is on who should
supply manpages and, once we know what our policy is, check to see
that we follow it.
I can survey the way things are done by the 0.93R4 base disk set
and the various .deb packages I currently have, but I'm not sure
that'd accomplish much until we determine and state the policy.
At first blush, it seems as if whoever supplies the program should
supply the man pages. An exception might be the base system, which might
supply _all_ base man pages in a separate package which could be omitted
by anyone installing a sparse system without man pages (e.g., a disk
constrained system used as an AX25 router). Anyone wishing to avoid
package man page installation might symlink /usr/man to /dev/null after
base system install (perhaps this would be best done via the existing
special initial-login dialogue. Or, it occurs to me, it could be
doce during dinstall dialogue prior to base system install -- which'd
obviate the need to separate the man pages out of the base system into
a separate package.).
Sounds like something which needs discussion, and not like something which
needs to be fixed before our still-upcoming release can take place.
As a separate issue, I noted while looking at this that the base system
supplied some programs which are later overwritten by non-base packages.
I'd have to go back and recheck to confirm details, though. I think
ping, for one, is an example of this.
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From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens)
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Bill Mitchell <mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#579: missing /usr/man/man8 manpages
From: Bill Mitchell <mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com>
> The following programs are missing manpages:
I find manpages for some of these on my system. Can you check again?
Thanks
Bruce
/sbin/depmod
/sbin/ifconfig <- In netstd.
/sbin/insmod <- In modules-1.1.87 .
/sbin/installkernel
/sbin/ksyms <- In modules-1.1.87
/sbin/lilo
/sbin/lsmod <- In modules-1.1.87
/sbin/modprobe
/sbin/rmmod <- In modules-1.1.87
/sbin/route <- In netstd
/usr/sbin/Set_X5
/usr/sbin/Set_X6
/usr/sbin/flushb
/usr/sbin/mkboot
/usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon
/usr/sbin/update-rc.d
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> The following programs are missing manpages:
I find manpages for some of these on my system. Can you check again?
Thanks
Bruce
/sbin/depmod
/sbin/ifconfig <- In netstd.
/sbin/insmod <- In modules-1.1.87 .
/sbin/installkernel
/sbin/ksyms <- In modules-1.1.87
/sbin/lilo
/sbin/lsmod <- In modules-1.1.87
/sbin/modprobe
/sbin/rmmod <- In modules-1.1.87
/sbin/route <- In netstd
/usr/sbin/Set_X5
/usr/sbin/Set_X6
/usr/sbin/flushb
/usr/sbin/mkboot
/usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon
/usr/sbin/update-rc.d
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The following programs are missing manpages:
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/sbin/insmod
/sbin/installkernel
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/sbin/lilo
/sbin/lsmod
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/usr/sbin/flushb
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The following programs are missing manpages:
/sbin/depmod
/sbin/ifconfig
/sbin/insmod
/sbin/installkernel
/sbin/ksyms
/sbin/lilo
/sbin/lsmod
/sbin/modprobe
/sbin/rmmod
/sbin/route
/usr/sbin/Set_X5
/usr/sbin/Set_X6
/usr/sbin/flushb
/usr/sbin/mkboot
/usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon
/usr/sbin/update-rc.d
mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell)
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