Debian bug report logs - #1763, boring messages

Subject: Bug#1763: sysklogd init script has no links to rcx.d
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Package: sysklogd
Version: 1.2-13

There were no links to /etc/init.d/sysklogd in /etc/rc2.d so klogd
and syslogd didn't get started.

The culprit is these lines in the postinst script.

update-rc.d sysklogd defaults 10 90 >/dev/null

# Purge the files of the old "syslog" package, it's now called "sysklog".

rm -f /etc/cron.weekly/syslogd /etc/init.d/syslogd \
        /etc/rc[0-6].d/[SK]20syslogd \
        /etc/rc[0-6].d/[SK]20sysklogd

Your making the links, then deleting them afterwards.

Andrew

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Andrew Howell				               andrew@it.com.au
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Subject: Bug#1763: sysklogd init script has no links to rcx.d
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Andrew Howell writes ("Bug#1763: sysklogd init script has no links to rcx.d"):
> Package: sysklogd
> Version: 1.2-13
>
> There were no links to /etc/init.d/sysklogd in /etc/rc2.d so klogd
> and syslogd didn't get started.
>
> The culprit is these lines in the postinst script.
>
> update-rc.d sysklogd defaults 10 90 >/dev/null
>
> # Purge the files of the old "syslog" package, it's now called "sysklog".
>
> rm -f /etc/cron.weekly/syslogd /etc/init.d/syslogd \
>         /etc/rc[0-6].d/[SK]20syslogd \
>         /etc/rc[0-6].d/[SK]20sysklogd
>
> Your making the links, then deleting them afterwards.

Since the package should not have been renamed (see my recent message
on debian-devel) this is all moot, but what should really have been
done was just to add the extra `k' to the existing links.

Removing the user's configuration and replacing it with the default
one isn't good.

Ian.

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Subject: Bug#1763: sysklogd init script has no links to rcx.d
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Ian Jackson writes:
> Since the package should not have been renamed (see my recent message
> on debian-devel) this is all moot, but what should really have been
> done was just to add the extra `k' to the existing links.

Considering it's now in binary/base and probably on the new disk set Bruce
is making I wouldn't call it moot.

> Removing the user's configuration and replacing it with the default
> one isn't good.

I agree.

Andrew

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Andrew Howell				               andrew@it.com.au
Perth, Western Australia		      howellaa@cs.curtin.edu.au

From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson)
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Subject: Bug#1763: sysklogd init script has no links to rcx.d
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Andrew Howell writes ("Re: Bug#1763: sysklogd init script has no links to rcx.d"):
> Ian Jackson writes:
> > Since the package should not have been renamed (see my recent message
> > on debian-devel) this is all moot, but what should really have been
> > done was just to add the extra `k' to the existing links.
>
> Considering it's now in binary/base and probably on the new disk set Bruce
> is making I wouldn't call it moot.

The new syslog package with the `k' in its name should be REMOVED from
the distribution and replaced with the old one with the `k'.  I said a
while ago that it should not be moved into it, and now that it has
been it should be removed again immediately.

Installing the new package will probably wipe out the user's
configuration, including the syslog.conf !!

Ian.

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Subject: Bug#1763: sysklogd init script has no links to rcx.d
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   Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 02:44 GMT
   From: Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>

   The new syslog package with the `k' in its name should be REMOVED
   from the distribution and replaced with the old one with the `k'.
   I said a while ago that it should not be moved into it, and now
   that it has been it should be removed again immediately.

Sorry--I must've missed your first request.  By the time I saw your
request, it was too late.

Could the sysklogd maintainer fix this ASAP?  We'll have to rebuild
the base diskettes, too, to incorporate the fixed package.

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   Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 22:09 EST
   From: Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.org>

      Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 02:44 GMT
      From: Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>

      The new syslog package with the `k' in its name should be REMOVED
      from the distribution and replaced with the old one with the `k'.
      I said a while ago that it should not be moved into it, and now
      that it has been it should be removed again immediately.

   Sorry--I must've missed your first request.  By the time I saw your
   request, it was too late.

That is to say, I'd already replaced the old package with the new one.

Does anyone have a copy with the old one that we can use until a fixed
package is available?

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Subject: Bug#1763: sysklogd init script has no links to rcx.d
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Can I work around the problem by simply renaming the package (to remove
the "k") and rebuilding it from source? I _think_ that's all I need to
do.

	Bruce

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	Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:13:02 -0700)

   Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:13:02 -0700
   From: Bruce Perens <bruce@Pixar.com>

   Can I work around the problem by simply renaming the package (to
   remove the "k") and rebuilding it from source? I _think_ that's
   all I need to do.

Yes, I think that would do it.

From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson)
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Subject: Bug#1763: sysklogd init script has no links to rcx.d
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Ian Jackson writes:
> Installing the new package will probably wipe out the user's
> configuration, including the syslog.conf !!

No it doesn't it was written nicely so you get to keep your old
configs. The only thing wrong with it is what I mentioned in my bug
report.

Andrew

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Andrew Howell				               andrew@it.com.au
Perth, Western Australia		      howellaa@cs.curtin.edu.au

From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson)
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Andrew Howell writes ("Re: Bug#1763: sysklogd init script has no links to rcx.d"):
> Ian Jackson writes:
> > Installing the new package will probably wipe out the user's
> > configuration, including the syslog.conf !!
>
> No it doesn't it was written nicely so you get to keep your old
> configs. The only thing wrong with it is what I mentioned in my bug
> report.

As I wrote earlier, there is a problem in dpkg related to packages
taking over each other's conffiles.

I'm still considering how best to solve it, but in this case the
solution (not renaming the package) is obvious.

Ian.

From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson)
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Martin Schulze writes:
>
> Hallo Andrew Howell!
>
> }update-rc.d sysklogd defaults 10 90 >/dev/null
>
> Remember: 10 and 90 (!!)
>
> }# Purge the files of the old "syslog" package, it's now called "sysklog".
> }
> }rm -f /etc/cron.weekly/syslogd /etc/init.d/syslogd \
> }        /etc/rc[0-6].d/[SK]20syslogd \
> }        /etc/rc[0-6].d/[SK]20sysklogd
> }
> }Your making the links, then deleting them afterwards.
>
> No, these are old files with priority of 20.

duh, I should look a little closer I think :) Hmmm wonder why I was missing
my links then... I had to create them manually after I installed the
package. Oh well doesn't matter now we've switched to release 15 as it
seems to work fine.

Andew

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Andrew Howell				               andrew@it.com.au
Perth, Western Australia		      howellaa@cs.curtin.edu.au

From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson)
To: andrew@kryten.it.com.au (Andrew Howell)
Subject: Bug#1763: Info received (was Bug#1763: sysklogd init script has no links to rcx.d)
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