Debian bug report logs - #1020
kernel image hangs scsi controller

Package: image; Reported by: sr1@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (Sven Rudolph); 134 days old.
Bug reopened, originator set to sr1@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (Sven Rudolph). Request was from sr1@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (Sven Rudolph) to debian-bugs-request@pixar.com. Full text available.

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Subject: Re: Bug#1020: kernel image hangs scsi controller

On Thu, 19 Oct 1995 02:39:17 +0100, sr1@irz.inf.tu-dresden.de (Sven Rudolph) said:

> > I believe that this problem was solved in the Linux kernel. Please
> > give the current package image-1.2.13-2 a try and write me whether
> > this works for you.
[...]
> I assume that my suggestion is correct. If you encounter this problem
> again, please file a new bug report.

No, this problem still exists.  How can you just wave your hands and
close the report???  Do you have an Adaptec 1542B?  Does yours work?

Bruce has offered a work-around (a string to pass to the Linux kernel)
but I don't think this should be considered a permanent solution.
IMO, known conflicting drivers should be separated.

> I close this bug.

IMHO, it should be reopened.  If you won't do it now, I'll do it the
next time I test the boot/root disks.

--Mike

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Subject: Re: Bug#1020: kernel image hangs scsi controller
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> >> PACKAGE: image VERSION 1.2.10-1
> >> 
> >> I upgraded to the new kernel.  Now my machine hangs at boot.  The
> >> kernel is screwing up my adaptec 1542b scsi interface in a big way.
> >> Hardware reset does not even seem to fix it.  Powering down does,
> >> though.
> > I believe that this problem was solved in the Linux kernel. Please
> > give the current package image-1.2.13-2 a try and write me whether
> > this works for you.
> 
> Unfortunately, my machine is dead right now.  I don't know how soon I
> will be able to fix it.

I assume that my suggestion is correct. If you encounter this problem
again, please file a new bug report.

I close this bug.

	Sven
-- 
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Subject: Re: Bug#1020: kernel image hangs scsi controller

At 9:28 AM 6/21/95, David Engel wrote:
>> I guess the question is how many debian people have Buslogic boards?  I DO.
>> I may be the only one.  I am sure (my speculation) that more people have
>> Adaptec than Buslogic (unfortunately, Buslogic is better quality and
>> suppurt, IMHO).
>
>I have a 946C, but haven't had any problems with it through all of the
>1.2.x and 1.3.x kernels.  All kernels were compiled by me using the
>standard, Debian gcc-2.6.3 and libc-4.6.27.

FYI and for the purpose of documenting the things I went through that may
help others...

I have a BusLogic 545C, and somewhere between 1.2.3 and 1.2.9 the changes
were made.  I looked at the 1.2.10 patch, bug couldn't find any Buslogic
modifications.  Before I made this particular upgrade jump, I was getting
the errors of the following nature:

>May 31 22:24:28 lucubrate kernel: BusLogic SCSI: buslogic_interrupt:
>interrupt received, but no mail.
>Jun  1 02:28:04 lucubrate kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
>pid 19230, scsi0, id 3, lun 0 0x0a 04 e8 0e 02 00
>Jun  1 02:28:04 lucubrate kernel: BusLogic SCSI: buslogic_abort: 10 81
>Jun  1 02:28:04 lucubrate kernel: BusLogic SCSI: buslogic_abort: lost
>interrupt discovered on irq 11 - attempting to recover...

The first message would appear all the time, and sometimes multiple times
so klogd said "previous message twice."  Here's what Buslogic tech support
had to say about it via e-mail to techsup@buslogic.com (with a quick
response I might add):

>First off, I'd suggest you use a newer Linux kernel than 1.2.3 -- version
>1.2.6 contains the first of a number of interrupt handler rewrites to take
>care of some of the problems you're describing.  1.2.9 also appears to be
>stable, and I know of one person who's running multiple BusLogic adapters on
>it with no problems.
>
>Regards,
>Jo Kellner
>BusLogic Technical Support

I hope this helps someone else or may shed some light on the present
situation...

Regards,

--
-- Grant R. Bowman                                AdvoTech
-- <grantbow@netcom.com>         Computer and Software Asset Manaagement



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> I guess the question is how many debian people have Buslogic boards?  I DO.
> I may be the only one.  I am sure (my speculation) that more people have
> Adaptec than Buslogic (unfortunately, Buslogic is better quality and
> suppurt, IMHO).

I have a 946C, but haven't had any problems with it through all of the
1.2.x and 1.3.x kernels.  All kernels were compiled by me using the
standard, Debian gcc-2.6.3 and libc-4.6.27.

David
-- 
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david@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081

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On Wed, 21 Jun 1995 08:01:47 +0700, deisher@yamuna.eas.asu.edu (Michael E. Deisher) said:

> I got a copy of source-1.2.10-1.deb and tried compiling it without
> the buslogic driver.  The source tree is messed up and it would not
> compile.  I'll report this bug separately.

I just tried to reproduce the problem with source-1.2.10-1.deb on a
machine here at school after a good night's sleep.  I can't reproduce
it.  Therefore, I will not report this as an additional bug.  Sorry
for the extra noise on the mailing list.

--Mike

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On Wed, 21 Jun 1995 08:38:55 -0700, grantbow@netcom.com (Grant R. Bowman) said:

> I guess the question is how many debian people have Buslogic boards?
> I DO.  I may be the only one.  I am sure (my speculation) that more
> people have Adaptec than Buslogic (unfortunately, Buslogic is better
> quality and suppurt, IMHO).
>
> THIS RAISES THE ISSUE OF WHO OUR TARGET AUDIENCE IS again.  Just
> thought I would mention that last part again for the hell of it.

IMHO, we have to support ALL the hardware that the Linux kernel
supports.  I have a feeling that most (if not all) the Debian
developers share this opinion.  I'm sure they'll tell me if they
don't.  :-)  The proper question to ask is "how do we support
conflicting drivers in a relatively painless way?"

--Mike


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Subject: Re: Bug#1020: kernel image hangs scsi controller

At 6:01 PM 6/20/95, Michael E. Deisher wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:30:29 +0700, deisher@yamuna.eas.asu.edu (Michael E.
>Deisher) said:

>I think I've narrowed the problem down to a kernel autoprobe conflict.
>When my machine failed to boot the message was:
>
>   BusLogic SCSI: buslogic_out: failed(4): BusLogic SCSI: buslogic_stat:
>   status=39 intrflags=84
>
>   BusLogic SCSI: buslogic_mailboxes: failed setting up mailboxes.
>
>   aha1542_in failed(3): Unable to determine Adaptec DMA priority.
>   Disabling board.
>
>[... how to get a good source tree ...]
>
>Should we report this one to the kernel channel?  Can we make a
>separate kernel package that avoids this conflict?

Mike,

Actually, I have a Buslogic board.  I know that in a very recent 1.2
revision, 6 I think it was or something, Buslogic patches were applied that
solved alot of my problems.  I have heard on Usenet this bad
board-identification problem before.  It's not particular to just us.

As for the fix, I don't know.  Ideally a 1.2.11 would be released, but most
of those kids (figuratively of course) are off to the races with 1.3.x.

I guess the question is how many debian people have Buslogic boards?  I DO.
I may be the only one.  I am sure (my speculation) that more people have
Adaptec than Buslogic (unfortunately, Buslogic is better quality and
suppurt, IMHO).

THIS RAISES THE ISSUE OF WHO OUR TARGET AUDIENCE IS again.  Just thought I
would mention that last part again for the hell of it.

Regards,

--
-- Grant R. Bowman                                AdvoTech
-- <grantbow@netcom.com>         Computer and Software Asset Manaagement



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On Mon, 19 Jun 1995 20:30:29 +0700, deisher@yamuna.eas.asu.edu (Michael E. Deisher) said:

> PACKAGE: image 
> VERSION 1.2.10-1
> I upgraded to the new kernel.  Now my machine hangs at boot.  The
> kernel is screwing up my adaptec 1542b scsi interface in a big way.
> Hardware reset does not even seem to fix it.  Powering down does,
> though.

I think I've narrowed the problem down to a kernel autoprobe conflict.
When my machine failed to boot the message was:

   BusLogic SCSI: buslogic_out: failed(4): BusLogic SCSI: buslogic_stat:
   status=39 intrflags=84

   BusLogic SCSI: buslogic_mailboxes: failed setting up mailboxes.

   aha1542_in failed(3): Unable to determine Adaptec DMA priority.
   Disabling board.

I got a copy of source-1.2.10-1.deb and tried compiling it without the
buslogic driver.  The source tree is messed up and it would not
compile.  I'll report this bug separately.  Finally, I got a fresh
copy of the 1.2.10 kernel source and copied the .config file from
source-1.2.10-1.deb.  I used all of the default options (the one's Ian
had set) except the buslogic driver option.  It compiled with no
problems.  I installed the new kernel by copying it to
/boot/vmlinuz-1.2.10 on my debian partition.  Now the debian system
boots and runs just fine.

Should we report this one to the kernel channel?  Can we make a
separate kernel package that avoids this conflict?

--Mike


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On Tue, 20 Jun 95 13:26:35 PDT, mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell) said:

> You might want to check the SCSI howto for comments about adaptec
> 1542{bc} interfaces.  There's a lot of caveats, and a recommendation
> for changing the scsi driver so that it'll only have one request
> outstanding (changing a #define).

There doesn't appear to be anything relevant (to this problem) in the
HOWTO anymore.  I think the caveats were taken care of long ago.

> I had this problem with my 1542c for kernels ranging from 0.99.14 or
> so up to 1.0.something -- needed a power-cycle to restore sanity.
> It went away with one of the 1.x kernels, and now might be back with
> the 1.2.10 kernel, from what you say.

I suspect a conflict with another driver that Ian M. has compiled into
the debian kernel.  Unfortunately, I don't know what drivers he
selected since he has not released the source package.

> I went round and round between Drew Eckhart (I think), who did the
> scsi driver, and Adaptec on this.  No resolution.

Yeah, I remember you mentioning that before on the debian mailing
list.  If I'm not mistaken, all the problems were related to the
1542c, not the 1542b.  The 1542b has always been pretty solid with
Linux.

--Mike

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To: deisher@yamuna.eas.asu.edu, debian-bugs@pixar.com
Subject: Re: Bug#1020: kernel image hangs scsi controller

You said:

> I upgraded to the new kernel.  Now my machine hangs at boot.  The
> kernel is screwing up my adaptec 1542b scsi interface in a big way.
> Hardware reset does not even seem to fix it.  Powering down does,
> though.

You might want to check the SCSI howto for comments about
adaptec 1542{bc} interfaces.  There's a lot of caveats, and
a recommendation for changing the scsi driver so that it'll
only have one request outstanding (changing a #define).

I had this problem with my 1542c for kernels ranging from 0.99.14
or so up to 1.0.something -- needed a power-cycle to restore sanity.
It went away with one of the 1.x kernels, and now might be back with
the 1.2.10 kernel, from what you say.

I went round and round between Drew Eckhart (I think), who did the
scsi driver, and Adaptec on this.  No resolution.


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From: deisher@yamuna.eas.asu.edu (Michael E. Deisher)
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Subject: kernel image hangs scsi controller
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PACKAGE: image
VERSION 1.2.10-1

I upgraded to the new kernel.  Now my machine hangs at boot.  The
kernel is screwing up my adaptec 1542b scsi interface in a big way.
Hardware reset does not even seem to fix it.  Powering down does,
though.

--Mike


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Bug#1020; Package image. Full text available.
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