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         <->     Death By Electronics     <->
         <->      Volume 1, Issue 2       <->
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|Disclaimer| :  We, at DBE, take no responsability for your actions
+----------+    due to this magazine.  We are simply using the freedom of
speech, and the freedom of the press.  We do not encourage you to do anything
that we demonstrate in this magazine.

+------------------+
|Quick Introduction| : Well, this is our second issue.  At first, DBE was a
+------------------+   general group that did anything.  We are now becoming
more and more "concentrated" as time goes on.  What I mean by this is that
instead of trying to do everything, we are becoming specialist's in one domain.
This will most likely be programming.  But, the programming chapter is very
vast.  So, we could end up doing anything from Loaders to Games to Wardialers.
We will just have to wait and see...


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<->  1.  What You Should Know About Viruses              <->
<->  2.  The Conscience of a Hacker                      <->
<->  3.  DBE Releases and Projects                       <->
<->  4.  Future Crew Info                                <->
<->  5.  All You Wanted to Know About Demos              <->
<->  6.  Montreal Freenet                                <->
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I will first explain to you very simply the life cycle of the average virus.

1.  A virus is created by some unknown person.  This person is usually a
university student or a famous virus programmer.

2.  The virus is released into CyberSpace.  The virus will either be in a
archive telling people that its a virus.  Or it will hidden within a actual
program.

3.  People download the program, virus scan it, find nothing unusual and run
it.  Its only a matter of time now before they realise that they got infected
by a virus.

4.  Once somebody realises that he's been infected by a unscanable virus, he
will most likely ask his friend to give him the most recent virus scanner.
If he still can't scan it.  He might call McAfee BBS to send them the virus,
and wait for them to create a scanner able to find it.

Ok.  What this means to you, is that the average virus that is released,
becomes scanable about one month after release.  There are aproximately 40
new unscanable viruses and strains introduced to the world every month.  This
number also keeps on growing.  That means, that in 3 months, your scanner
can't find ñ120 viruses.  After a year, it can't find ñ480 viruses.

People who try to virus others aren't stupid.  They will most likely use the
most recent and destructive virus that they can find so that others can't
scan it unless they keep up to date with virus scanners.

So, what does that all mean to you?  It means that you should update your
virus scanners whenever possible.  I personally prefer McAfee to the rest.
McAfee comes out with a new scanner every month.

BUT, there are many ways to find unscanable viruses on your HD.  Some viruses
make hidden .COM versions of every .EXE file that they infect.  This is true
with the 250 Rauser and Aids II virus.  I, for one, got infected by the 250
virus.  It was in a file called RAUSER.ZIP  It was supposed to allow you to
hack Remote-Access BBS's.  To find these viruses, all you have to do is write
ATTRIB /S *.COM at the DOS prompt.  If you see a H in the attribute column
next to a COM file that you didn't put there, it MIGHT of been created by a
virus.  How do these viruses work?  Well, lets say that I run a file called
TELIX.EXE  Once I run that file, the virus will make itself a version called
TELIX.COM which will be hidden with attrib commands so that when I type TELIX,
it runs TELIX.COM (which will end up doing damage, then run TELIX.EXE)
instead of TELIX.EXE!

The CHKLIST.MS are helpful for finding unscanable viruses also.  What a
CHKLIST.MS does, is that it keeps track of the size, date, attribute etc of
important files in its directory.  When you run MSAV or MWAV, it will tell
you whenever the information in CHKLIST.MS is different to the information of
your .EXE and .COM files.  If you scan your HD, and find that there are alot
of EXE and COM files that have all increased in size by the same ammount, this
is most likely a virus.

Most of the time, if you execute a virus (by itself) all that you will see is
your computer pause, then come back to normal without a message or anything
being displayed.  That is because the virus is most likely installing itself
into memory.  Thats one way of finding out that you ran a virus.  So if you
execute a suspecious file, and all it does is pause for a few seconds, then
it MIGHT be a virus.  If your computer reboots, this also might be a virus.
Most viruses that write a copy of themselves to the boot sector reboot after
doing so, so that they can go into memory.

Still another way of finding a virus is viewing whats inside the actual file.
SOME viruses and trojans have text strings that are visible in the EXE or COM
saying stuff like "I hope you backed up your HD!" or "Don't FUCK with me!".
Stuff like that makes it pretty obvious that its a virus (It could be
something else like a vulgar game or something, but then again, it could be a
virus).  I use Norton Commander to view this, but you can also use QDOS or
Norton Utilities.

Even though viruses are generaly small (most being around 1000 bytes) its VERY
easy to make them bigger by doing this:

COPY /B VIRUS.EXE + SHITFILE.DAT VIRUS.EXE
(VIRUS.EXE = Virus, SHITFILE.DAT = Any file used to make VIRUS.EXE bigger.)

The virus will now be its size + the second file big, and this does NOT affect
the viruses performance (I know that this is true for Trojans, but viruses may
behave differently since they "reproduce" themselves.  When I say virus, it
could be a virus, trojan or worm.  Use your common sense to find out which
type im talking about.)

One last way of knowing if you are infected by a virus is to run a executable
file that you havent ran in a long time.  Look at your free disk space before
and after you run it.  If after you run it, you have less free disk space, 
then you are in trouble!

The best way to understand viruses is to create one.  The 2nd best way is to
try one, and the 3rd best way is to read about it.  Search for a product
called VSUM (Virus Summanry)  If you call the McAfee BBS, you can find it.
Or just FTP to 192.187.128.1 and go in PUB/VSUM (I think thats it)  It is a
excellent program.  I used to use it whenever I planned a "virus attack".
You can learn everything about viruses with this product.


Here is what happened when I got infected by the 250 virus.

1.  Downloaded RAUSER.ZIP
2.  Executed RAUSER.EXE, tried it.  Found out it didn't work.  Deleted it
3.  During 3 days, I notice that my computer was acting strange.  It would
    sometimes reboot by itself, and I could not remove directories since it
    would tell me that it wasen't empty (Hidden .COM files)
4.  On the 3rd day, I was suspecting that I had a virus.  This became true
    when I saw a message saying "I LOVE MAAIKE" cover my screen in flashing
    Green.
5.  I put in a diskette to scan my computer.  It found nothing.  But when the
    program stopped, it said "Write Protect.  Can't create SCAN.COM" that's
    when I realised that it was making hidden .COM files for every .EXE file
    that I ran.
6.  After 1:30 hours, I managed to manualy rid my system of this nasty virus.
    What did I lose?  Norton Utilities 7.0, and some files in DOS.
7.  I called McAfee BBS, U/L the virus, and to my suprise, I saw that in their
    new Uploads, about 7 other people from Canada and the US had already
    uploaded it.
8.  2 weeks after this, Scan 116 which was able to scan it came out.
    I scanned my computer, and to my releif, the virus was totaly gone.


Well, I hope that you guys can learn from my experience.  If you get infected
by a unscanable virus, you should be able to scan it anytime from 1 day to 1
month.  If you have important files on your HD, don't use your computer during
this time as the virus MIGHT destroy your files.  Remember, not all viruses
destroy and damage files, but alot of them do.


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<X>       by HellúSpawn                                              <X>
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This is an exerpt from "The Conscience of a Hacker" by The Mentor from
Phrack volume one, issue 7, phile 3. (The Hacker Crackdown)  This version is
different then the one in Phrack Mag.

   I made a discovery today, I found a computer, Wait a second, this is
cool. It does what I want it to, if it makes a mistake, it's bacause I
screwed up, not because it doesn't like me...

   And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through the
phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is
sent out, a refuge from day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board is
found. "This is it... this is where I belong..."

   I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to
them, may never hear from them again... I know you all...

   This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the
beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying
for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons,
and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek
after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color,
without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals.
You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat and lie to us and
try to make us beleive that it's for our own good, yet were the criminals.

   Yes, I am a criminal, my crime is that of curiousity. My crime is that
of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.
My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive
me for.


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[RELEASED]:

DBE_MAG1: DBE Magazine #1 is about 22,000 bytes with 7 articles from 2
  different editors, No Fear and Source Unknown.  No Fear lives in Montreal,
  and Source Unknown lives in Ottawa.

CODER ver 0.01:  Coder is a random password generator.  All it does is create,
  print and save passwords.  It was created due to the lack of such programs.
  It is 9,712 bytes big.  The source code is about 300 lines in Turbo Pascal
  7.0  Created by Source Unknown.

CODER ver 0.02:  This is the 2nd upgrade of Coder.  It features 7 "fixes" and
  "updates".  It is 12,640 bytes big.  The source code is about 430 lines in
  Turbo Pascal 7.0 and ASM.  Created by Source Unknown.


[PROJECTS]:

DBE_MAG3.TXT:  3rd magazine of DBE.  Edited by at least 3 different editors.

CODER ver 0.03:  3rd upgrade of Coder.  Created by Source Unknown.

DBE_LOAD.EXE:  We are working on creating a small 30 second loader of DBE.
  Source Unknown and No Fear are working on it.

A WAR DIALER: We are THINKING on creating a usefull wardialer.  This would be
  done using Turbo Pascal and Assembly or C++.  Source Unknown, HellùSpawn and
  No Fear would be the creators of it (for now).  We would HOPE to have it
  completed around January.  We haven't thought up of a name yet, but any
  suggestions would be appreciated.   (No, we won't name it after you, and
  names such as TAUNELOC would not be accepted either!)

WARZONE.EXE: I am working on creating a game that ressembles Scorched Earth.
  Since I always loved that game, and it appears that no new versions of it
  are comming out, I decided to make my own version of it.  This version would
  we called "Turbo Warzone" and it would be in 256 Color MCGA.  Sound Support
  would be added on later if future versions are created.  I hope to have it
  completed by X-Mas.

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<X> (4).  Future Crew Info                                           <X>
<X>       by No Fear                                                 <X>
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For those of you who are big fans of demos, I have compiled this
information about the group Future Crew.

Alias:          Real name:        Born:   Main responsibility:
--------------------------------------------------------------
GORE            Samuli Syvahuoko  1973    Organizer/PR/E-mail
Psi             Sami Tammilehto   1973    Coder
Trug            Mika Tuomi        1972    Coder
Wildfire        Arto Vuori        1975    Coder
Purple Motion   Jonne Valtonen    1976    Musician
Skaven          Peter Hajba       1975    Musician
Marvel          Aki Maatta        1975    Graphics Artist
Pixel           Mikko Iho         1975    Graphics Artist
Abyss           Jussi Laakkonen   1975    BBS Coordinator

FC Internet Division:

Henchman        Markus Maki       1974    E-mail/PR/betatesting
Jake            Jarkko Heinonen   1973    E-mail/PR/betatesting


                      LIST OF ALL FUTURE CREW RELEASES                 

Filename        Size   Released   A Short Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------
GR8.ZIP         31 kb   7-12-89   GR8 intro, EGA/No sound
YO!.ZIP         32 kb   2-24-89   YO! intro, VGA textmode/PC-speaker
FC-SLIDE.ZIP   350 kb   7-23-90   Slideshow I, a graphics collection, SB
ST224.ZIP      130 kb   2-22-91   Scream Tracker 2.24 shareware, SB
MENTAL.ZIP      90 kb   7-02-91   Mental Surgery demo, SB/Covox/PC-speaker
STMIK020.ZIP   170 kb   8-10-91   Scream Tracker Music Interface Kit 0.20
FISHTRO.ZIP    230 kb   4-08-92   Assembly'92 invitation intro, SB
STMIKFIX.ZIP    10 kb   7-14-92   A Bugfix to STMIK
UNREAL.ZIP    1350 kb   8-06-92   Unreal megademo, SB/SBp
STARPRT2.EXE     6 kb   9-13-92   StarPort BBS intro, VGA/AdLib
THEPARTY.ZIP   165 kb  10-02-92   The Party II invitation intro, SB/SBp
PANIC.ZIP      950 kb   2-04-93   Panic trackdemo, SB/SBp
ASM-93.ZIP     400 kb   6-15-93   Assembly'93 invitation intro, SBp/GUS
WCHARTS.ZIP    680 kb   6-26-93   Worldcharts magazine issue #1, SBp/GUS
SOULOMAT.ZIP   100 kb   7-10-93   A song by Purple Motion (.MOD)
ICEKNGDM.LBM    65 kb   8-01-93   Winner of PC graphics compo at Asm'93
ICEFRONT.ZIP   180 kb   8-01-93   The winner of PC multichnl compo Asm'93
CAN'T.ZIP      125 kb   8-01-93   The second in PC multichnl compo Asm'93
STRSHINE.ZIP   225 kb   8-01-93   The third in PC multichnl compo Asm'93
TROLL.LBM       85 kb   8-01-93   The fourth in PC graphics compo Asm'93
SUNDANCE.ZIP   235 kb   8-10-93   The winner of PC 4chnl compo at Asm'93
2NDREAL1.ZIP  1250 kb  10-07-93   Second Reality, Asm'93 winner, SBp/GUS
2NDREAL2.ZIP   790 kb  10-07-93   Second part of the Second Reality demo
2NDR_MS.ZIP    280 kb  11-01-93   Skaven's songs from Second Reality
SYMPHONY.ZIP   260 kb  11-01-93   Symphony by Skaven (.S3M file)
PMFRACT.ZIP    210 kb  11-05-93   The winner of Megaleif ST/PC music compo
BUSMATKA.ZIP    75 kb  11-09-93   Finnish invitation to Party3 bussymatka
STARPORT.ZIP     5 kb  11-21-93   StarPort BBS intro II, VGA/Adlib
SP2SRC.ZIP      30 kb  12-02-93   StarPort BBS intro II sources
UNREAL11.ZIP  1335 kb  12-28-93   Unreal version 1.1 for GUS
JOURNEY1.ZIP   867 kb  12-28-93   First Musicdisk by Purple Motion
JOURNEY2.ZIP  1015 kb  12-28-93   Second Musicdisk by Purple Motion
CHMIND.ZIP    1420 kb  02-20-94   Chaotic Mind - Music collection by Skaven
2NDPATCH.ZIP    36 kb  02-20-94   Slowdown bugfix patch for 2nd Reality
ASM-94.ZIP     221 kb  04-08-94   Assembly'94 Pre-Invitation Intro
SCRMT301.ZIP   291 kb  04-18-94   Scream Tracker 3.01 BETA
ASM-94_2.ZIP   567 kb  07-03-94   The Assembly '94 Invitation Dentro

           
                       HOW TO CONTACT THE FUTURE CREW                      
 
        Mail address is:                     Home BBS is:
        Abyss / Future Crew                  StarPort - FC WHQ BBS
        c/o Jussi Laakkonen                  +358-0-455 4801
        Sepetlahdentie 2 E 36                       455 4805
        02230  Espoo                                455 4807
        FINLAND                                     455 4810
                                                    455 4812
        GORE's cellular phone (GSM):                455 4827
        +358-40-502 3025                            455 4829

StarPort is also available thru telnet/rlogin. Telnet MPOLI.FI user-id:
PCBOARD. There is also an anonymous FTP-service, MPOLI.FI. These
services are accessible only within Finland. Future Crew is currently
working on international access.

You can also e-mail them or send a fax:

Future Crew asks that for all questions, information, etc ... send
e-mail to FC@MPOLI.FI.  And please don't annoy them with stupid
questions where you could find the answer elsewhere.  Other addresses
are only for contacting purposes ONLY.

                Alias           Address
                -----           -------
                Abyss           abyss@mpoli.fi
                GORE            gore@mpoli.fi
                                or jtheinon@cc.helsinki.fi
                Marvel          marvel@mpoli.fi
                Pixel           pixel@mpoli.fi
                Purple Motion   purple.motion@mpoli.fi
                Skaven          skaven@mkoski.otol.fi
                                skaven@mpoli.fi
                Wildfire        wildfire@mpoli.fi
                Jake            jtheinon@cc.helsinki.fi
                Henchman        mmaki@cc.helsinki.fi

If you have access to a UNIX prompt, use finger to get the latest news
about Future Crew
        "Finger" jtheinon@cc.helsinki.fi 

        Fax:    +358-0-420 8620  (GORE's place)

                             WHAT THOSE GUYS DO      

        Psi             - Turku university, major informatics
        Trug            - finished his studies
        Wildfire        - finished high school, starting at an
                          institute
        Purple Motion   - second year in high school
        Skaven          - not studying at the moment
        Pixel           - not studying at the moment
        Marvel          - finished high school
        Abyss           - finished high school, starting at a
                          university
        GORE            - studying in a business school/commercial
                          college
        Henchman        - Institute of Technology, studying computer
                          eng.
        Jake            - Helsinki university, computer science

Well that is all the information that I have on them so far.  I will be
writting about other groups, so that you can be in contact with them.


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Demos are real cool and they are all over the PC world.  But what are
demos exactly and how can I go about making one?  First, in order
for you to make a demo, you must have a general understanding of what
it is.

You must understand that demos are not animations, like on TV.  Nearly
everything you see on the screen is being calculated in real-time.
What that means is that, a faster CPU will be able to have smoother
FXs and both audio and video.  The speed of the movement is usually
dependant to the speed of the CPU, but the VGA card and sound card also
plays a big role.  Since demos are mostly nothing more than
mathematical calculations, a math coprocessor will greatly increase the
speed and flow; a 486/33 with a math coprocessor will run demos faster
than a 486/50 without.

Most of the time, the competition is the time when the demos are
released, but sometimes there are not.  The reason for this is that 
most demos haven't been beta-tested well enough before the and might
not work on all machines.  There has to be different test for the 
sound card, video card and so on.  So, the groups often will finish
their demos after the competition and then release them when they
believe that there done.  But if the group does not release their
demos after a certain period of time (like 1-2 months), the organizers
of the competition will release the version which was presented at the
competition.

There are a few big demo parties being held annually in Europe. These
include the following: The Party in Denmark at Christmas-time, The
Gathering in Norway around Easter, The Computer Crossroad in Sweden
before the summer and Assembly in Finland in the end of Summer. The
Computer Crossroads'94, though, has been cancelled.

At Assembly'93 which was help in Finland, there were a total of 1500
attenders from which 550 were programmers. About half of them had come
from outside Finland 

Good Internet Demo Sites:
A few very good anonymous ftp sites where you can find lots of demos
are ftp.uwp.edu, ftp.eng.ufl.edu and wasp.eng.ufl.edu. There are also mirrors for these
sites in Europe, for example ftp.luth.se.

And since many people don't know how to login to an anonymous ftp site,
here's some info: as the login name put "anonymous" and as the
password, put your own internet e-mail address.

Here are some books that could come very handy as you explore the
world of demos (there are undoubtably newer prints, so check them
out):

  Mastering Turbo Assembler, Tom Swan
        Hayden Books 1989, ISBN 0-672-48435-8
  PC System Programming, Michael Tischer
        Abacus 1990, ISBN 1-55755-036-0
  The Programmers PC Sourcebook, Thom Hogan
        Microsoft Press 1988, ISBN 1-55615-118-7
  Programming the 80386, John H. Crawford and Patrick P. Gelsinger
        Sybex 1987, ISBN 0-89588-381-3
  Programmers guide to EGA and VGA cards, Richard F. Ferraro
        Addison Wesley 1989, ISBN 0-201-12692-3

You'll find that most up to date information are software 'books',
or files which you can get from bbs'es and such.  News groups are a
very good source of information, and it's the proper place to ask
questions.  In short, there is no magic way of learning to code, it
really does take hard work.

Learning to code demos is a long and very very difficult process. It
takes years to learn to code demos very well. A good way to start is
some high level language like Pascal or C and then start to experiment
with assembler to increase its performance. It takes a lot of time and
experimenting to get better, and there are no shortcuts. The main
thing is try to understand what you do, then try to change the program
to see what you get, and gain wisdom in what's the best way of doing
things. Learning to code well requires a lot of patience, a lot of
enthusiasm and a lot of time. It is not easy.

The most common programming languages for code is Borland C++,
Microsoft C, Borland Turbo Pascal and of course TASM (Turbo
Assembler). For graphics, Deluxe Paint 2 Enhanced (and 3D
Studio 3.0) seems a good choice. For making the music Scream Tracker
3.0 and for digitizing the samples for songs the Advanced DigiPlayer
3.5 should do the trick. 

When making a demo you must keep in mind certain things, like which
sound card is the standard, most popular, available for testing, etc.

        Gravis UltraSound   - programming advantages the new standard
        Sound Blaster Pro   - the old standard on the demo scene
        Sound Blaster       - the basic sound card

Writting demos is very exciting but is does take some time before
anyone can reach the status of groups like Future Crew, Triton, etc...
but it is not impossible.  It all depends on the amount of time that
you have to learn the ins and outs of demo making.


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<X>       by No Fear                                                 <X>
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Many of the major cities already have freenets at the disposal ofthe
public.  Soon, there will be a freenet springing up in Montreal.  The
scheduled launch date is early February, but do to lack of funds, this
date will most likely be postponed until mid spring.

The Montreal freenet will be setup different than other freenets.  Most
freenets use gopher as the foundation, but the Montreal freenet will be
using LYNX.  LYNX is a hypertext software that lets you use Wide World
Web sites, as well as GOPHER and FTP.  The disadvantage is that the user
will not be able to specify which URL he wishes to connect to.  So a lot
of surfing must be done to get to the desired site.  The Montreal
Freenet will include the standard features of e-mail, news groups,
gopher and WWW.  But no telneting out will be allowed, telneting in is
O.K., they even try to push this since it frees-up the modems.  The menu
system will be the standard interactive menu running on UNIX, and will
be available both in French and English.  There will be no rlogin or
ntalk during the first year, but it might be implemented later on.  The
e-mailing system will support the French character set, but in order not
to crash older systems, MIME will be used.  MIME is the standard used to
convert 8 bit characters to 7 bit, and can be found on PINE or UUENCODE.

In the first year there will be 175 modems all running above 9600 bps,
and during the second year that number will go up to 250 and than 350
modems during its third year of operation.

The Montreal Freenet will most likely end up being one of the most
exciting freenet sites around the world because of the two different
communities that live there and because of the amount of ressources that
is available to the public.



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<*><*>  Well, DBE is starting to take its shape.  We started out more   <*><*>
<*><*>  like a HPACV group, but we now ressemble more like a group of   <*><*>
<*><*>  "good guys".  This dosent mean that we will never release       <*><*>
<*><*>  anything "illegal", it just means that our stuff will become    <*><*>
<*><*>  more "acceptable" by the general public.   Yet, we will main-   <*><*>
<*><*>  tain a regular flow of "illegal" products...then again, we      <*><*>
<*><*>  might not.                                                      <*><*>
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<*><*>  Remember: "A man's like clay, molded by his surroundings, he    <*><*>
<*><*>  starts to take shape after the beating and the pounding."       <*><*>
<*><*>                                 -Urban Discipline,  Biohazard    <*><*>
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<*><*>                   Members in DBE up to date:                     <*><*>
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<*><*>                            No Fear                               <*><*>
<*><*>                           NightWidow                             <*><*>
<*><*>                           HellùSpawn                             <*><*>
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