CHAOS CONTROL ISSUE#2 Welcome to Chaos Control, an Ezine focusing on electronic music. This is a text-only version; the main form is a Mac Hypercard stack. This file can be downloaded from America Online and will soon be on an ftp site (Email for info). It can also be ordered on disk by mail by sending $5 to Bob Gourley, 3 Greenville Dr., Barrington, RI, 02806. Chaos Control is published bi-monthly and features interviews with both major and underground acts. The next issue, which will be out on July 1 in Hypercard form and later in text form, will feature New Order, Prayer Tower, Sleep Chamber, 808 State, Billy Idol, Big Catholic Guilt, Clockdva and more. The best way to get Chaos Control is in the Hypercard form, as it combines text and graphics to create a true multi-media publication. The Hypercard version of this issue features additional articles on Meat Beat Manifesto, Bizarre Inc, and Orbital not included in this version. Feel free to Email if you want more information. Bob Gourley rsgour@aol.com Contents: The Stereo MC's Pigface Din The Shamen Ultramarine Single Gun Theory The Orb Utah Saints Zia Nine Inch Nails Front Line Assembly THE STEREO MC'S Since they emerged in 1987, the Stereo MC's have proved to be masters at fusing together a variety of styles of dance music. On their latest LP, Connected, the Stereo MC's take this even further by getting away from using breaks from other people's music and using more live instruments. Like groups such as Massive Attack, the Stereo MC'S fuse together rap, funk, soul and whatever other style of dance music they feel like working with. Stereo MC's was started up by rapper Rob B and DJ/remixer The Head in 1985. The duo, along with friend John Baker, started up Gee Street, a label that was then picked up by Island. The first Stereo MC's album, 33-45-78, was released in 1987. The band then added drummer Owen If to the line-up and began working with vocalist Cath Coffy to create the breakthrough album Supernatural. Rob cites such electro pioneers as Kraftwerk and Afrika Bambaataa and early rappers like Whodini and Schoolly D as major influences on the Stereo MCs' music. But despite their name, and their tendency to incorporate rap influences into the music, the Stereo MC's don't see themselves as a rap group. In launching their career in America, where it seems everything must fit into a musical category, the Stereo MC's are faced with an extra challenge. "It's quite weird in America, we noticed that last time we came," explains Rob. "We saw everything was really segregated and it was a bit hard for the record company to know what to do with us, because we didn't seem to fit in anybody's category, so it was hard to start with. "But I think it was just up to us to make an impression of our own and just say that we weren't coming over to be the rap group every rap fan had to listen to, because America's got enough rap groups of it's own. We just wanted to come over and say 'we're the Stereo MC'S and this is our music and it's just kind of a melting pot of lots of different influences.'" The group's new album, Connected, marks a major change for the band in the way it was created. While Supernatural relied almost entirely on breaks, with only the occasional session player filling out the sound, Connected made more extensive use of live musicians. "We started everything with breaks, but most of the tracks ended up losing most of the breaks," explains Rob. "We ended up taking the music several stages further than we had gone before and playing things ourselves on bass and keyboards and getting other people in to play things like the horns." The change in the group's approach to creating their music was the result of a change in approach towards songwriting in general. The group found just using bits of other people's records to be to limiting. "It was just because we had a lot of melodic ideas that there's no way to find in a record collection," says Rob. "We were composing a lot of the music ourselves." Although they are getting away from the use and sampling, it's not because the Stereo MC's have any problems with it. Rob feels that as long as it is done creatively, sampling is a bona-fide source of music. "I think is stands on it's own right as a form of expression," he says. "A sampler is a musical instrument. You don't think about where the sample comes from, it's just a matter of making a groove out of tiny part of records. I think sampling has brought a breath of new live into music, where music was going nowhere." Another difference between making Connected and Supernatural was the locations of the recording. Rather than going to New York, like they did last time around, the Stereo MC's stayed home in London to make the record, and Rob feels it made a big difference. "We figured that's what this LP's all about," says Rob. "Us just being quite honest and making it where we live and a living the music kind of thing." For Supernatural, the group had done the complete opposite, choosing to record in New York simply because they had never recorded there before. During this time, the Stereo MC's hooked up with Afrika Baby Bambaata of the Jungle Brothers, who appeared on two of the album's tracks. While the Stereo MC's had done mixes for the Jungle Brothers in the past, the collaboration was not planned and came about simply because Bambaata was working at the same studio at the time. "It was nice, no ego problems or nothing, it was easy-going, just doing music, it was kind of nice," says Rob. "That kind of stuff we just do if it naturally happens. There's probably loads of people that we'd like to do something with, but we find it a bit boring if you premeditate it" Supernatural was actually released twice in the United States. The original version hit the shelves in 1990, but then a special American version was released that featured re-mixes of several tracks. Rob says that the decision to do this was made by the label, but he feels that it made sense since "Elevate My Mind" took a long time to catch in the States but eventually did well. "They probably figured 'well, if we pump the LP a little bit more, we can get more people into it'," explains Rob. "That's cool - I understood that." Though their studio techniques have changed, the Stereo MC's still make coming up with a catchy groove the most important factor of songwriting. Rob compares building up a song to "painting a big oil painting." "You gradually just get an atmosphere going with the groove and then pounding different parts so that you can work arrangements," he says. "Just building the music very gradually until you get a kind of a whole picture built. Sometimes, you may have a lyric to begin with, but usually you get a groove going and that inspires a vocal." In terms of writing the actual lyrics, Rob says the subject matter is wide open. "A lot of the motivation is just things that we see, things that we know about," he explains. "What we think about life, what we think about life in England, the way we see society and the way people live, and how we see nature and how we see everything." PIGFACE There has never been anything quite like Pigface, a constantly changing collection of over 27 musicians initiated by original PIL drummer Martin Atkins. For Atkins, Pigface is a response to his 15 years of experiences in the music business. Besides being part of PIL, Atkins has released albums under the name Brian Brain, toured with Ministry, and was part of Killing Joke in that group's later years. Atkins says that at a time when he should be disillusioned and bitter, he is happy and excited about making music. But what exactly is Pigface like? Even Atkins has a hard time coming up with an answer. "Pigface is Pigface," says Atkins. "I've been trying to explain what it is to people for a long time, and the only way I can describe it now is to say watch the Glitch video, which is a 70-minute video take from two tours." "I can sit and talk - John Lydon said a lot of things about what Public Image Limited was, and it was all a lie," he says. "I could talk about what Pigface is and what it isn't, but it's all bullshit until you see the video and you see 25 people on stage in Cleveland, a different 20 people on stage in Seattle with two guys playing bagpipes and people setting fire to things, different band structures and relationships every night. Until you see that, anything that I could say would just be bullshit." Along with Atkins, the staple members of Pigface have proven to be En Esch (KMFDM), Chris Connelly (RevCo, Ministry), Willaim Tucker (Ministry, Thrill Kill Kult) and Paul Raven (Killing Joke). Other contributors have ranged from Fetchin' Bones cellist Barbara Hunter to Skinny Puppy's Nivek Ogre to Rollins Band members Andrew Weiss and Chris Haskett. With 18 people playing on the latest LP, Fook, it would seem that a Pigface live show would be complete chaos. But their most recent tour proves otherwise, as the band's sound was tight and together, while still allowing room for spontaneity. Fetchin' Bones vocalist Hope Nicholls did a superb job at covering the vocal parts for the studio contributors who were not present. By having Pigface on his own label, Atkins has the freedom to keep the band from having the problems he has experienced in the past, particularly with Pil. "I started the label because I was tired of having my ideas either ridiculously hyped up or having financial pressures or corporate musos seek to water down the music we were making as Pil for mass appeal," says Atkins. "My label and the way I conduct myself now is a direct result of spending my youth within the confines of Pil ... I'm very sorry to see what Pil has become, it embarrasses me to be honest. I thought that Pil was a force for change in the music industry. If not in the industry itself, then at least for ourselves, and I was very, very sadly disappointed when it turned out to be just a marketing scam." Atkins cites an incident that occurred in NYC in the mid 80's as a major influence of his departure from Pil and his current view of the music industry. After a show at the Beacon Theater, Atkins was asked by an Elektra Records executive what was next for the band. When he responded that the group would probably tour for a year to promote This is What You Want, This is What You Get, Atkins was told in no uncertain terms that the LP was "dead," only a few weeks after it was released. "I just had to leave, it was very, very depressing," says Atkins. Atkins was involved with Pil from its beginnings in 1979 until 1985, when his disgust for the business and a deteriorating relationship with John Lydon prompted him to quit. Originally, the two had been good friends, but Atkins says there was a growing lack of respect between them. "Even with the house and the pool and the palm trees and the car in LA, I had to re-define success on my own terms. Being in Pil in LA and being miserable was obviously to me not success, so I quit," says Atkins, who added that he and Lydon do not remain in touch. Several years later, Atkins became part of another 80's legend - Killing Joke. Murder Inc, one of Atkin's current projects (also featuring several other Pigface members) is an extension of that band. Atkins had first met Killing Joke when he was in the studio working on the Betrayed LP with Jah Wobble and Killing Joke were working on their first EP at the same location. Although they hadn't been in touch in the interim, Atkins ended up joining the band in 1989, and released the Courtald Talks on Invisible. "I was aware of their work and they were aware of my work with PIL, so when a mutual friend was in a pub in England and ran into Geordie, he mentioned that he knew me and had my home phone number," Atkins explains. "Geordie put a strangle hold on this guy until he gave him my phone number. They called me up and said 'hey, come to London and join the band.'" But this was near the end of Killing Joke's career, as personality conflicts were tearing the group apart. After the first Pigface tour, Atkins returned to England to work on a Killing Joke tour and realized that he could not continue with the band. "It was very obvious to me that I didn't want to be around Jaz Coleman," says Atkins. "And so I left the band. Paul Raven then decided that if I wasn't going to be in the band he certainly didn't want to do it either." Several months later, there were negotiations for a new Killing Joke recording contract and talk that Atkins would be involved. So Atkins returned and began working with Coleman on a budget to record in the most cost-efficient manner. According to Atkins, Coleman was looking towards unrealistically exotic locations to record and was also trying to work out a solo deal at the same time. "Jaz's input was like 'let's go to fucking Cairo, let's record it in Cairo and then, Poland' you know, just absolute insanity," he says. "And then Jaz got involved in trying to work out a solo deal for himself. It was just screwing everything up, and I'm like 'listen, I already left the band, it's as insane as I thought it was, fuck off'. " A few months after that, Atkins started working with guitarist Geordie Walker, who had also gotten into an argument with Coleman and decided that he didn't want to work with the singer. Then Paul Ferguson and the other members came along, and Murder Inc was born. With Chris Connelly handling lead vocals, the band released a self-titled album on Invisible last year. But while it may seem that the group is simply a revamped Killing Joke with Connelly in Coleman's place, Atkins sees it as "very much a completely new group." "Some people think I fired Jaz or Chris replaced Jaz, and that's really not the case. It's just something that was happening over the course of a year," says Atkins. The release of a new compilation of old Killing Joke material has fueled rumors that Coleman may rejoin his former bandmates. But this is completely false, according to Atkins. "I think that a Sex Pistols reunion would be sad and pathetic and I think that a Killing Joke reunion would be similarly bizarre and hopeless," he says. "In a very short period of time, Murder Inc went from an idea to, I think a great album," he says. "The dates that we did transformed it from a great idea that had spawned a really cool album into something that I definitely know can be a very, very dangerous, throbbing force in the market place and just completely annihilate about 98 percent of what's out there." Running the five-year-old Invisible Records gives Atkins control over all aspects of his projects. The label has an in-house 8-track studio and capacity to print T-shirts and posters. Atkins says that Invisible handles all organization duties of recording and touring, from arranging for musicians to be flown over from England to "sitting on the phone with hotels and equipment rental companies until we get everything we want for half of what most people pay." Atkins strongly believes that a musician must stay completely on top over the business side of things, even though some people may complain that they don't care about it and the music is the only important thing. "It's absolute crap for them to say that," he proclaims. "If their music comes first, then they should be up all night working on spreadsheets, understanding where their money goes, how it's spent, why they're paying top price for a bus company, why aren't they in a van with a trailer because that's all the money there is, why are they paying top price for a studio, why isn't the management going out and buying the two-inch tape because if you use ten rolls of two-inch tape, I can get it for $100 cheaper than a studio will sell it to me for, and that's $1000 and that's an extra day in the studio. So people that say they don't want to dirty their hands with the business are just idiots and their money is flying out of the window." As an example of how a lack of business know how can jeopardize an artist's creative control, Atkins told of Killing Joke's Outside The Gate LP, which the drummer describes as "as absolutely abysmal keyboard masturbation album." Outside The Gate was originally supposed to be a Jaz Coleman solo album, but recording costs were allowed to reach over 100,000 pounds, more than a Coleman album could hope to recoup. "The label and the managment company forced them to call it Killing Joke and release it in an attempt to get the money back," explains Atkins. "Now the fact that it very nearly destroyed that band was neither here nor there. So that's how lack of business knowledge can directly affect creative output." A project like Pigface demands being extra careful with the financial aspects, since bringing so many people on the road can be very expensive. But the very nature of Pigface - constant change and experimentation - adds to the burden. "We need to meet people - we met Barbara Hunter in Cincinatti - she plays cello," explains Atkins. "We had the luxury of being able to say to her 'hey, do you want to come out with us for a week? We really like your cello playing.' That's the nature of Pigface and I wouldn't want to change it. If I had to say I like your cello playing but we can't afford the $200 to fly you back from Altanta if you come out with us for a week, then what's the fucking point? Because Pigface is about interaction and experimentation. It's like a social project and if it just became a band with five of us recreating the songs from the last three albums, then it would become pointless and just another band." When Pigface goes out on the road, it proves to be just as much of a social venture as a musical one. Atkins says that the first few weeks are kind of like a "show and tell" as the members of the different bands interact. "It's like 'hey, Ogre's got the new Skinny Puppy album, hey how's it going, look at this video, how far can you push such and such a management company,'" explains Atkins. "It's sharing of information." But keeping such an unorthodox band as Pigface financially stable can prove to be what Atkins describes as "a battle everyday." Atkins says that he is embarrassed that it took the financial support of a merchandising company to make the first two Pigface tours work, and that they were forced to charge $22 to $30 for T-shirts. ("I wouldn't fucking pay that. U2 shirts were only $20 for god's sake.") But in the end, the stuggle is worth it. "The only thing that we could change with Pigface to have it not cost as much to tour is not take as many people on the road," says Atkins. "So then it's like if we're not going to take all the people that we want, what's the point? It wouldn't be Pigface." DIN by Bobby Silver Originally printed in For Crying Out Loud #2 Pupka Frey, officially know as Din as well as being a member of the well-known Digital Poodle, has taken a break from his machinery to answer questions about his musical beginnings, works, and all that other good stuff. This interview comes to us after the release of Fantastic Planet, which will be the definite breakthrough of this multi-faceted artist all around the electronic world. FCOL: When did Din all begin? Din: I decided to make my own music after becoming engrossed in music videos (New Wave early eighties stuff). I went to the keyboard store at the age of 14 (1984) with my mother and rented a Sequential Circuits Pro One synth. Soon after, I made friends with Heiki Sillaste (the result of skipping gym class together and talking about keyboards). For the next three to four years I continued with Heiki, among others. During this time, the main project was Heik and the Shakes (drum machine+sequenced music+guitar+New Order-esque vocals), although I was also producing pre-Din "solo" material. In the summer of '87, Heiki and I put out a compilation tape featuring the bands Heiki and the Shakes, DIN and Digital Poodle and which represented the formal beginning of the Shadow Canada label. Following that, each of the projects released full-length cassettes. The first Din tape came out in May of '88 and was called Makaroni. Briefly, it contained 60 minutes of fairly melodic electronic music with demented vocals and screaming (select titles: Rat {and Pig}, Clown Suit, Yellow Eyes). Makrame came out in October 1989 and featured more dance-oriented material although equally demented. Harakiri (1991) was pure protective disco bubble even bigger with the Fantastic Planet CD the release of which was managed by Gerald Belanger of DOVentertainment. FCOL: Where did the name Din come from and what does it mean to you? Din:I used to say "Din" as a way of imitating the cowbell sound on cheap analog beat boxes. Conveniently, Din is a word found everywhere, with multiple meanings. The dictionary describes din as a clamor or noise. DIN also stands for Deutsche Industrielle Norm (German Industrial Standard) and can be found printed on anything from rolls of film to toilet seats. Also, one cannot forget the five-pin DIN plug used to connect all of our MIDI instruments... FCOL: Explain the concept behind Din. Din: The Din concept would be that of escapism and fantasy. This can be seen in the repeated references to horror and fantasy films, such as "Andalusian Dog", "The Fantastic Planet", of 70's horror films like "The Eyes of Laura Mars". I have not yet written Kraftwerkian love songs about technology or robots. FCOL: Who have been some of your musical influences? Din: First and foremost are Agnetha, Benny, Bjorn, and Frida (ABBA). After that comes Propoganda, and then Jean-Michel Jarre. I was also a big fan of Eurythmics circa 1983 before they became rock pigs. Lately however, I have been going through an early eighties revival listening primarily to Visage and other frills-and-makeup bands with synthesizers. FCOL: Since your last album Harakiri and now your latest Fantastic Planet, explain the conceptual progression. Din: I had access to a phaser pedal during the recording sessions for Fantastic Planet which led to its repeated use and resulted in multiple sonic references to the 1970's concept of space. It is interesting to note the number of disco records from the 70's that were based on a space theme, such as Boney M's "Night Flight to Venus". I think the space theme was supposed to induce detachment from the real world. This can be contrasted with acid house/rave escapism through the drug-induced detachment. Some would argue however, that space can only be reached through the use of substances. FCOL: Tell us about your newest release Fantastic Planet. Din: Fantastic Planet is a compilation of new tracks, remixes and remakes of songs from past releases. The original plan was to release Harakiri on CD, but it was then decided to include old "favourites" for variety. No high budget recording faculties were involved imagine a small suburban studio with an eight-channel mixer, a computer, four keyboards, and a couple of effects pedals. FCOL: Do you plan to play your music live and if so, what would you interpret into your show? Din: Trying to play Din music live is analogous to acting out a scene from a fiction film or book. In other words, the music is not live to begin with, and so live performance is not the essence of the music, as it is with standard rock 'n' roll. On the other hand, plugging in a computer on stage and starting the sequences could only insult the audience. In the past, Din shows consisted of keyboards and myself on stage, with space films and homemade slides projected on top. I would occasionally provide vocals or screaming. I think the shows were awful and I haven't done a show in two years. If I were tempted to do another show it would have other people on stage adding to the music. There wold be some outrages characters moving around along with the space/70's horror fantasy visuals. FCOL: Din's work resembles the pioneers of it all - Kraftwerk - with a more up to date sound. Was that what Din was striving for or did you just create be imagination of technology? Din: I don't have a technology fetish. Dave Rout (of Bang Elektronika and Mona Lisa Mescaline) introduced me to the 909 disco. The soft melodic components of Din probably come through listening to ABBA all the time. Analog textures through delay is naturally pleasing, especially when syncopated. It happens that Kraftwerk uses a comparable formula. FCOL: When you develop your songs, how do you develop ideas for each song? Din: Lately the majority of songs have the standard 909 beat. The idea of having a bunch of songs that sound similar, almost like one giant song, was executed deliberately. The melody on top of the standard bass and rhythm determines the mood and theme of the song. For example, "Travesty" has a bittersweet "transvestual" tone and makes me think of decadence and dark alleys. FCOL: Has Din done any soundtracks to films or videos of are you looking into that? Din: There's a video for "Travesty" ( a still from the video was used for the cover of Fantastic Planet) which was done Din style with the help of Carole Iritz of Yellow Lab Video. I have provided soundtracks for a number of local student film and video productions, but nothing professional. FCOL: Besides Din and being a member of Digital Poodle, are there any other side projects you're working on? Din: I am one-third of K.O.M.A. (Kollective Order of Machine Artists) and one-third of the mushy New Age project Land. I will be assisting in the production of the upcoming Nubile G and the Spurious Whiz album. The N/G/S/W is sound collage crossed over with bleep and tekno. FCOL: How do you view the current status of the electro/ techno/ industrial scene from where it's been and where it's going? Din: Tekno is definitely the latest great thing. The main problem I foresee is staying power. Two things seem to happen when a new form of art suddenly takes hold in such a big way; one is commercialization by the music industry. the other is that a lot of posers are attracted to it thinking they can turn out something worthwhile. This is not to say that you need four years at the Musician's Institute before you can dare to be in a band, the concept of "anyone can do it" is an important part of contemporary music. What I mean is, whereas before people just got into music for the hell of it, or to get laid or whatever, with tekno/industrial you have a whole poseur psychology in action - the black clothes, the Doc's, the meaningless (but profound sounding) lyrics and artwork - it's one big pastiche designed to make the doer appear sophisticated when in reality it's incredibly empty and naive, and points to a pathetic amount of insecurity. FCOL: What is the most important impression you would like to leave in the future, musically? Din: Disco never died. FCOL: How do you see Din evolving over the next 10 years? Din: I'll grow my hair long and frizzy like Michael Bolton and use only acoustic instruments. This article originally appeared on For Crying Out Loud, Issue #2, October 1992. ZIA With virtually every major industrial band somehow interconnected with one another through side projects, it was only natural for the burgeoning electronic scene in Boston, Massachussetts to also take on this incestuous nature. In Boston, Elaine Walker has proven to be one of those highly prolific individuals involved in several projects at the same time. In addition to being in D.D.T. and Sleep Chamber, Walker has her own project, ZIA. ZIA is not actually new, but it was put on the back burner when Walker got involved with D.D.T. Once D.D.T. got established, Walker began playing out as ZIA and released a cassette. To flesh out the project into a live band, Walker is assisted by D.D.T. bandmate Lisa Sirois and You Shriek's Marq Free. ZIA's music tends to be very fast and aggressive, and Walker shifts between distorted yells and more traditional singing. Walker does occasionally break out of this mold, most notably on "Stick Men," a slow, haunting song with powerful vocals. Like most of Walker's music, "Stick Men" is written entirely in microtuning, and the technique is particlaulry effective in the song. Walker admits that "Stick Men" does not really fit in with the rest of ZIA's material, but she says this is the type of music she wants to explore in the future. "I didn't even really have the notion that what I wanted to in my life was be a rock star and get a band together," says Walker. "What I was serious about when I first graduated, and still now, is to just explore and research microtonality" Microtonal composition breaks away from the standard 12-tone piano tuning. Walker uses 19 note per octave tuning, as well as the octave-less Pierce Scale. Walker was first exposed to it at Berklee School of Music and says it has changed the way she looks at music. "Ever since I was in first grade, I remember asking my mom 'what about the notes in between?'," she says."So I've always known there were other notes, but I was so young I hadn't even explored this [12 tone] tuning. Well know I have and I'm sick of it." "It's a beautiful tuning, and it's worked for hundred of years," says Walker of the traditional tuning system. "I still think it's a great tuning, but my god, we've been using it for so long, and isn't anyone getting sick of it? Doesn't anyone really think about that?" But since keyboards and sequencers were designed to play the 12-tone system, traditional musical theory and technique must be thrown out the window. For instance, the note displayed on the computer screen does not necessarily correspond with what it's making a micro-tuned synthesizer play, so much of the composition must be done by ear. "It can be kind of confusing to play," says Walker. "I really hate the fact that keyboards are this hardware thing that always stays the same. I can't wait until the day that there's a really good controller that doesn't just conform to one tuning." Although much of ZIA's music doesn't really make use of it, Walker has a great voice, which is showcased best on the song "Stick Men." Though she majored in music synthesis, all Berklee students are required to have a principal instrument they would train in, and Walker chose vocals. Walker's involvement with Sleep Chamber came about when she appeared in their "Synthetic Woman" video. Walker had been working with visual artist Norm Francoeur on her previous project, Blue Cartoon, and Francoeur was working with Sleep Chamber. She hadn't actually heard of the band at the time. "It was funny. John Zewizz thought 'oh, another fan that wants to be in my video' and Norm was like 'no, she's a musician that I've worked with, she has a project Blue Cartoon.'" At one time, there was talk of Zewizz managing Walker, but that never happened. The two did start writing together, and Walker is responsible for most of the music on the new Sleep Chamber LP, Siamese Succubi. Walker composed all of the keyboard and percussion parts, and then Zewizz took it into the studio to add guitar, saxophone and other instruments on top. Originally from New Mexico, Walker's first band, Blue Cartoon, was an outfit with more of a Berlin/New Order sound. While Walker was into this kind of music, she also listened to hardcore and even played synthesizer for a hardcore band at one point. Upon moving to Boston and going to clubs, Walker discovered bands like Front Line Assembly and Skinny Puppy and realized that these two styles could be brought together. Walker took the name ZIA from the New Mexico state symbol, which is a Navaho Indian sun symbol. She first started up ZIA when she graduated from Berklee in 1991. Walker had all the music arranged and recorded on digitally and was looking for musicians to make up a live band, preferably to take on the role that she handles in D.D.T. - triggering melodic notes with drumsticks. But it proved difficult finding a drummer who thought about playing notes, or finding a keyboardist who would use sticks. Ultimately, Walker got to know Sirois and D.D.T. vocalist Noel McKenna and joined that band, putting ZIA on the backburner. D.D.T. are known for their strong live shows, due to both their success in adapting the music to the live setting and the interesting visuals. The group uses elaborate props built for them by Francoeur as well as futuristic outfits and effects to add excitement to the concerts. Videos often are running on stage, and Walker says that watching them has prompted her to become a vegetarian. 'They're pretty gory - little white bunny rabbits with their skin getting peeled off, animals being tested and chickens, which get the least respect of any animal in the world, besides maybe cockroaches get a little less respect," she says. "I realized, what the heck. I thought I was almost a vegetarian, but I ate chicken. I just couldn't stand it anymore." Walker said that joining D.D.T. taught her a lot about the music business and made her feel more comfortable with her life in general. But Walker wanted to do more and eventually got the chance. "Finally Lisa and a couple of other friends from other bands got excited about the ZIA thing and they could tell I was getting frustrated because I had kind of left my solo thing behind," she explains. Right now, Walker is responsible for all of ZIA'a music. While she has no desire to collaborate with anyone on the melodic aspect of songwriting, she would like to eventually get people to help come up with the drum patterns samples and sound programming. "To tell the truth, I wish you didn't even have to hear music. I wish it could be like telepathy, sensing the pitches somehow," says Walker. "All I really want to do it compose the different arrangements and figure out the pitches and harmonic movements, and it would be nice to work with a great percussionist and a great sound designer. I would rather deal with music in a more mathematical way as virtual pitches, although I realize that the pitch and actual sound or timbre interact in many ways." One thing Walker would like to pursue in the future is film scoring. She has already done one local project, Steve Bennett's "Free Soul." The film is set in a not-too-distant future where phones have commercials instead of dial tones and every room has a TV set constantly bombarding its inhabitants with images. Someone had recommended that Bennett use D.D.T. for the soundtrack, but Walker stuck in a ZIA tape with the samples and the film maker ended up asking her to score the whole film. NINE INCH NAILS In late 1989, Nine Inch Nails came out of nowhere and proved to be a driving force in the "industrial dance" scene that was quickly emerging from the underground. Essentially a solo project of 27 year old programmer/musician Trent Reznor, Nine Inch Nails was fleshed out to a full band and toured extensively in support of their debut album, Pretty Hate Machine, proving once and for all that electronic music could be adapted to the live setting. Nine Inch Nails toured for two years straight, gaining wider exposure but leaving fans yearning for more material. People began to wonder is Reznor would ever come up with a follow-up to his stunning debut. The silence has been ended with Broken, an eight-song EP that marks the beginning of a new era for Nine Inch Nails. The group has ended its turbulent relationship with TVT Records after a bitter legal battle and moved on to Interscope. Musically, the disc is very different than its predecessor. Fans of the clean, high-tech sound of Pretty Hate Machine may be shocked to hear the noisy, guitar-oriented music on Broken. Nine Inch Nails' music was always aggressive, but the new EP takes it to the extreme. Reznor has chosen not to tour in support of Broken and is currently working on a new full-length album, tentatively scheduled for an early summer release. Though the sound of Broken makes it seem that Reznor is getting away from using heavy electronics in music, that is not the case. "It may seem that way, but in reality it's probably as much or more so," he explains. "I just got different equipment for one thing, and what appears to be guitar, bass and drums is really just a computer." Musically, Reznor says that his tastes have changed since doing Pretty Hate Machine and that he is not as stimulated by traditional electronic music as he was. Reznor says that he is not turning his back on electronic music, since that is his instrument, but was simply changing the way he went about creating it. For instance, the music on Broken was originally written on guitar. The recording of Broken had to be done in secret, since at the time the deal with Interscope had not yet been finalized. Reznor says that the whole ordeal was an unpleasant experience, and he wanted to make the music reflect that. But because he didn't want to bog down an entire album with that sound, he chose to make the project an EP. The resulting product is a dark, abrasive collection of songs that is a far cry from the synthetic dance sound of Pretty Hate Machine. "A lot people may say 'oh, I don't like it as good as Pretty Hate Machine because it's not as accessible or it's not as pretty or it's not as sad', or whatever the fuck they might say," says Reznor. "That was meant to be a flexing muscle, it was meant to be an abrasive, hard-to-listen-to thing, and lyrically ,it changed viewpoints. Because where Pretty Hate Machine's viewpoint was kind of like 'things might suck, but I still care about myself and I still want things to be cool trying to fix them', Broken was things suck, and I suck and I don't fucking care about anything, including myself. And that's not as positive a statement to make or yell, and a lot of people I don't think want to hear that statement and that's a specific statement for a specific mood for people." Although technically an EP, Broken contains as much music as some LPs, due to the two bonus tracks that are not in the song listing. "Those two tracks, a cover of an Adam Ant song ['Physical'] and 'Suck' were a couple of songs that we'd been floating around and playing live," explains Reznor. "We first played 'Physical,' the Adam Ant song, when we did Lollapallooza, and it ended up being kind of a fun song to play and we wanted to put that out as a 12 inch when we were doing Lollapallooza, but we couldn't, of course, because of our record label." Though these songs didn't really fit in with Broken, Reznor did not see them fitting in the future and just wanted to get them out. The first 200,000 copies of the EP contained the songs on a bonus three- inch cd, while future pressings had them at the end of the disc, not listed on the track listing. "It was a way to distance them from the other music because it wasn't part of the same mind set," says Reznor. '"Unfortunately, the risk involved is, with radio being as conservative as it is, I knew they would jump on 'Physical' or 'Suck' because they're a bit more digestible than the other stuff, so I've tried to make them as obscure as possible." Reznor says that the troubles with TVT stemmed from the label's misconception that NIN was "a nice pop band." He says that when he delivered Pretty Hate Machine, the label hated it because it wasn't as radio-friendly as they hoped. Ultimately, Reznor found it unbearable dealing with the label and having to get the approval of people that wanted NIN to be something it wasn't. "I decided that there's no way I could make another record for these people because I have to deal with things like them putting my music in bad movies and buying advertising time during 'David Letterman' for a record that's two years old," says Reznor. "I'm the one that had to answer to my fans for that, and it's not me doing it and I have no control over it. It was a really bad situation and personally we hated each other. But it finally ended and now we're on Interscope and they've been really cool." Reznor feels that the extensive touring that the group did after Pretty Hate Machine was what broke the band. At first, not many radio stations (and certainly not MTV) were playing Nine Inch Nails. But after getting exposure touring first with The Jesus and Mary Chain and then with Peter Murphy (both of whom Reznor says were "easy to blow away"), people began to take notice. A successful headlining tour followed and then came to question of Lollapallooza. Reznor says that doing the tour was an attempt to earn enough money to fight a successful lawsuit to get off TVT. But while it proved to be a good way for the band to stay alive during a difficult period, fans stated to think that Reznor was just milking it. "We got a lot of people bitching at me 'get more material out, record an album more often.' I'm like 'look, when I'm ready to make a record that I feel is worth making I'll make it'," explains Reznor. "Secondly, I owe you nothing as a fan except what I think is good material on a good tour and everything's of quality. And I'm not going to put out a shitty record that I write in a month just so that I can get back on the road. That would inevitably do more harm to us. And, when you're touring, that takes time and when I'm touring I'm not writing songs and I'm not sitting at home on a computer working on drum samples. I'm touring and that takes a lot of energy. It's one guy doing everything, and every time I write a song I have to try to reinvent how I'm writing it, the sounds I'm using, the process of writing it, the style of writing. I'm trying to break that up and that takes time. It's not as simple as getting together with three or four other guys and saying 'okay, here's the chord and the melody', not that there's anything wrong with that but I chose not to do that." In transferring the songs of Pretty Hate Machine to the live setting, Reznor was faced with the challenge of making totally computerized music interesting to see performed. Reznor believes it to be a "cop out" to simply sing along to DATs, as many electronic bands do. But he also feels it's a cop out to take electronic music and try to translate it to full rock band format. The solution was to use live guitars, drums and keyboards, but also have all the bass and any unreproducable noises on tape, as Reznor does not think anyone will miss watching someone play them. "The second you mention tape on stage, everyone yells Milli Vanilli and Janet Jackson," says Reznor. "My whole point it this - if someone leaves our show and feels ripped off, fuck you, you can have your money back. That was the way to make it sound the best and have the most energy and sound live but also sound electronic at the same time." NIN had its beginning when Reznor was working in a studio and recorded demos during off-hours. He adopted the name Nine Inch Nails because "it's a lot cooler name than Trent Reznor." Though he was originally only looking for a 12-inch deal so he could hone his craft, he ended up signing with TVT. While its touring incarnation is a full band, on record NIN is still pretty much all Trent Reznor. However, Reznor is starting to have other people play on his music "to add a little life to it" and does not rule out the possibility of collaborating on actual songwriting sometime in the future. The fact that NIN have been labeled "industrial" by the media has led to a backlash from the "true" industrial fans who argue that the music bears little resemblance to such industrial pioneers as Throbbing Gristle. But Reznor stresses that it is the media that has given him that label. "Mainstream America needs some sort of name, so fine, you can use that. In most of mainstream America, I would assume that Nine Inch Nail's name would to mind if you said that word," says Reznor. "The only problem I have is when you get the purist, underground people whose sensibilities are so offended by the fact that a pop band, or a band that actually has lyrics that you can understand or possibly could be played on the radio is labeled 'industrial' and they're like 'that's not industrial, god dammit!'. Okay, you're right. But who's telling you that? Me? No, so if want to bitch at somebody, bitch at Spin Magazine." Since NIN has emerged out from the underground to become a commercial success, Reznor is also faced with the dreaded scenario of having the people who liked NIN back when nobody had heard of them suddenly accuse him of "selling out." "When those people start to slightly turn on you, not because you've put out bad music, not because you've sold out, but because a lot of people like you, it's kind of a disturbing thing to think about," explains Reznor. "Through the phase where it was like I wish these people didn't like me because you don't understand where the fuck I'm coming from. I don't want to be a big band and I don't want to sell a shit-load of records and I'd rather be playing 500-seat clubs with my fans there instead of poseur idiots, fuckheads who just show up because you're supposed to like this. Frat boys, and that kind of shit. "But I catch myself realizing what a fucking elitist, stupid, fascist thing to think that is, where, okay, you're allowed to like it because you're cool, but you're not allowed to like it because you're not cool. "Well, fuck that. I understand people make music their own, and suddenly when it's a big thing, a lot of people seem to turn on that and they look for the other things that are now obscure that they can make their own again. Nothing is going to change that, but when you really think about it, it is kind of a silly way to act. I personally don't feel that compromised in my music, and if I wanted to, I could have just put out a record that would have sold a lot more copies than Broken might do." Reznor is currently in the studio working on a new LP, which is tentatively scheduled for a summer release. He says the music will sound less dense and produced, as he feels too much thought and too many layers of sound went into the creation of Broken. Reznor says he purposely made Broken less accessible in order to make it more interesting for the listener and this idea will carry over to the new album. "It may be pretentious for me to say, but I wanted to make a record that the first time you hear it you don't like it, but you might want to hear it again, but by the third time it's pretty cool," explains Reznor. "By the fifth time, you really like it and possibly by the tenth time you're not sick of it and now it all makes sense ... For me, if I hear a song and love it the first time I hear it, I'm usually sick of it by the fifth time. 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' would be a great example of that. That's a fucking great song, but I could live another five life times without hearing it again." The way Broken ended up sounding also has a lot to do with the type of sounds it uses. On Pretty Hate Machine, all the drums were sampled from other people's records using an E-Max. But this time around, Reznor went out with a portable DAT machine and recorded his own sounds, later dissecting them on the computer to create the instruments heard on Broken. In addition to working as Nine Inch Nails, Reznor also has a production deal with Sire, though nothing has come out of it yet. "When they get something that works with my schedule and that I'm into doing, I'd be happy to do stuff with them," he says. "They're a cool label." But Reznor says that he will not be working with Pigface again, as he was not happy with the project the first time around." According to Reznor, many shows were promoted as if he was supposed to be appearing, even though it was known well in advance that he wasn't. "Then every night there's a story about how I'm sick and I can't come to the show," says Reznor. "I think it's the kind of thing that could be fun to be involved in except I haven't had the time to really do it and there's just some difference in opinion on a few issue that will prevent me from working with them again. I didn't think it was that great when it was out and that's no commentary on the people in the band, because I like everybody involved with that. I just have to be cautious of the way that Nine Inch Nails is handled and I wasn't able to or I didn't have time to put enough energy into that for me to feel really good about doing it. I don't want to have to make excuses for what I do." Note:This interview was conducted in November of 1992. Since this time, Nine Inch Nails have released Fixed, an EP of remixes by such artists as Coil and Foetus. "The Downward Spiral" now has a planned release dates of late summer. FRONT LINE ASSEMBLY It's fairly common for electronic musicians to be involved with several projects at the same time, but few have been as prolific as Front Line Assembly's Bill Leeb and Rhys Fulber. In addition to working under the FLA banner, the duo has recorded as Intermix and Delerium and been part of Cyberaktif (with Skinny Puppy's cEVIN KEY and Dwayne Goettel) and Noise Unit (with the Klinik's Marc Verhaeghan). Recently, the duo branched out even more and did a remix EP with death-metal outfit Fear Factory. Front Line Assembly was originally started up in 1987 by Leeb, who had previously been part of Skinny Puppy. Leeb says that everyone in that group had their own different ideas, and he also wanted to try vocals, so the time was right for him to leave and try something else. The connections made with Skinny Puppy helped considerably in the launching for Front Line Assembly, as the first two labels Leeb sent cassettes to offered him contracts. Fulber appeared on a few tracks on the first LP, The Initial Command (KK), and then Leeb teamed up with Michael Balch. Balch left and Fulber returned as a full time member for 1990's Caustic Grip LP (Third Mind/Wax Trax!). So many different projects has allowed Leeb and Fulber to explore a wide variety of electronic styles. Front Line Assembly is geared toward fast, aggressive music, with Noise Unit pushing this format even further to the pain threshold. On the other hand, Intermix is slightly ambient techno-rave music and Delerium is instrumental, atmospheric sound track music. The latter is something that Leeb would like the explore even further in the future. "That's a part of the music business that really interests me, and sooner or later I'd like to just spend all my time doing it," explains Leeb. "I just think it's a pretty neat process." With Cyberaktif's Tenebrae Vision LP (Wax Trax!), Leeb was able to answer the question of what Skinny Puppy would sound like if he had stayed with the band. Leeb found working with his former bandmates to be "kind of fun." He says it "was just sort of like rehashing old things, but it was different this time because we were a bit more established." Leeb says that he never had any interest in making music until he started hearing electronics being used. He had played violin while growing up in Austria, but never liked the music he was hearing back then. "I was never a big fan of the 70's music scene at all," he explains. "I never bought stuff like that, never got into it. But the first time I heard a couple of these weird sort of electronic things, I thought 'wow, this is different'." Sampling has always played a part in Front Line Assembly and the off-shots. It's not uncommon to hear lines from horror and science fiction films like "From Beyond" or "Freejack" pop up in the songs. But beyond this and the use of samplers to manipulate sounds into new instruments, Leeb is actually opposed to a great deal of what is going on with sampling in the music industry today. "I have the biggest problem with it," he explains. "To me, a lot of rap is just a poor excuse for people who can't write songs. They're so obvious about it, they don't even try to hide it. Most of the songs I recognize by what they steal, rather than what they do on top of it ... I don't mind taking little things from movies, but I think when people loop a really recognizable song, it's wrong. "I think all the drum beats that you hear in rap are all stolen, they do them is basements in New York, and then they just have one keyboard and the guy raps to it in the hopes that it sells a million records. I think that's kind of a drag. They should have better copyright laws and stuff like that." When it come to creating sounds, Leeb says that the group uses "every imaginable source of sound." The band has been known to go to great lengths in order to come up with unique sounds for their music. One favorite source of sounds is old analogue synthesizers. With the first few Front Line Assembly LPs, Leeb moved from label to label, signing one-album deals to avoid being tied down. He says that it is fun having product out on a variety of different labels, and doesn't mind that some of them are in Europe. "I used to just buy imports here myself," Leeb explains. "I used to think that they sounded better and were more prestigious because they came from overseas." Leeb ended up sticking with Third Mind for Front Line Assembly, and Wax Trax! released the music domestically. But that ended in mid 1991 due to legal problems with the bands' European label, Play It Again Sam. An EP, Toxic, was shelved because of the court hassle, and then Third Mind started up a US branch in time to release the Tactical Neural Implant LP. Many of the tracks from Toxic ended up as bonus cuts on singles from that album. Now, most of the music Leeb and Fulber do comes out on Third Mind, though there is a clause in the contract that allows the group to take their material elsewhere is that label doesn't want to or can't release it. Usually, the group then takes it to Germany's Dossier Records, who have released the five Delerium albums. Caustic Grip was the album that brought Front Line Assembly up from the underground, and when it came time to do a follow up Leeb and Fulber decided to take a different approach to prevent it from sounding the same. As a result, Tactical Neural Implant had a less dense, slightly less aggressive sound. Leeb predicts that the next LP will present another change in the sound, though it is too early to say what it is. With Intermix, their most recent side project, Leeb and Fulber are experimenting with techno-rave music. Leeb says that the group likes to follow trends because it keeps things fresh and presents them with a challenge. "With Front Line, we can't really change with every record," explains Leeb. "But I always like trends - they're great, they come and they go - so we figured with Intermix it would be a great tool to always do what's current and never lose our identity." Leeb is not concerned at all by the fact that the rave music Intermix is emulating is probably going to be outdated in six months time. Rather, he feels that it is important for music to be constantly changing because it creates new ideas and keeps things moving. "Scenes like that aren't meant to be taken seriously, they're just fun things," he says. "People go out on the weekends and dance whether it's rave or disco or funk or whatever it is. It's just something to motivate people to get out there and have fun." Although Leeb and Fulber are involved is so many different projects, they tend to keep them all separate."We put a certain amount of time aside for one particular project, because we work with certain sounds and things like that so to organize things in our computers and on our disks and stuff it's a lot easier to sort of go into one mould and do one particular style of music and we keep everything pretty separate," explains Leeb. Leeb and Fulbur recently released a new Noise Unit LP (minus Verhaeghan) called Strategy of Violence (Dossier). The duo is now at work on the next Front Line Assembly album, which should be completed by the end of the summer. A Front Line tour will follow the release, and Leeb thinks that a new Delerium LP may also be completed by years end. All articles written by and copyright 1993 Bob Gourley unless otherwise noted. THE SHAMEN Since their beginnings in 1986, change has been no stranger to The Shamen. Originally an indie-rock outfit from Aberdeen, Scotland, the band relocated to London a few years later and became heavily influenced by the acid house scene. But 1991 was a pivotal year for the group - they finally broke in America, went top 40 in Britain and lost one of their founding members. Last year, The Shamen regrouped and released a new album, Boss Drum, an LP that finally realizes their full potential as a dance outfit. The Shamen's interests in dance music first became evident after the Drop LP. Previous to this, the group had been using synths and primitive samplers in their music, but it wasn't until The Shamen started hearing hip-hop and electro music that they began using the technology to create a dancier sound. The group's original drummer, Keith, was a major influence in bringing these styles into The Shamen sound. Relocating to London in 1988 and becoming immersed in the acid house scene completed the band's transition. Psychedelia has always been part of The Shamen, and that's what attracted them to acid house. "I could recognize the psychedelic aspects of the music immediately, but it was irresistibly danceable," says frontman Colin Angus refering to the spacey sound of classic analogue synths used in the songs. "And the reports I was hearing about the parties, the multi-media events very like what I imagine events were like in the 60's in terms of massive light shows with strobes and oils and colored lights and lots of people enjoying the company of one another in a psychedelically enhanced atmosphere or empathy of love." "Move Any Mountain", a reworked version of their 1990 club anthem "Pro-Gen," was the song that finally introduced The Shamen to mass audiences both here and abroad. The song was remixed by so many people that the band had more mixes than they knew what to do with, so they released it as a limited edition double album called Progeny. The LP went straight to #21 on the British album charts, disappearing a few weeks later when all the copies were gone. "Electronic music is such a powerful way of composing and such a powerful way for two artists to interface in each other's work, as this album hopefully shows," explains Angus. "We were making a point to the people buying the record 'well what exactly is the definition of a track these days." The Shamen even went so far as to include the individual samples so that fans could create their own mixes (these also appeared on the US single of the song). The group found itself flooded with new mixes when it went on the road, and the break beat can be heard on the Utah Saint's "Something Good." 1991's En-tact was the Shamen's breakthrough LP in the States, but the American issue differs from the original UK version, which was released in November of 1990. Tracks were remixed by various people, including the Shamen themselves, who say they were getting bored with some of them. Angus feels that the resulting package was superior to the original. "I think there's a greater diversity among the tracks, it's a lot more polished and more danceable," he says. Sadly, co-founder Will Sin did not live to see his band finally make it big. When the group travelled to Tenerife to shoot a video for the new version of "Move Any Mountain," Sin drowned at the age of 31. But The Shamen continued on as a duo of Angus and rapper Mr. C, a long-time collaborator who had recently been made a full-time member of the band. "When it first happened, I was still reeling from the shock of Will's completely unexpected and tragic death, and I couldn't think about the Shamen at all, couldn't see how anything could continue," says Angus. "But as I came to terms with it and thought about the situation I realized that what the Shamen's about was positivity and that positivity is like the spirit of the music and positivity acknowledges the need for change. So for those reasons I elected to carry on and also I knew that the name Shamen really meant a lot to Will and that was one of the main attractions for joining the band for him." Angus adds that he could not let the Shamen fall into history because it is "such an informative name." "Once you start delving into what Shamanism is, and Shamanism is definitely on the rise worldwide, we realized that it's such a powerful excuse for putting forth that kind of information," he says. "The Shamen must continue to exist as a band." On Boss Drum, the ideas of Shamanism figure prominently in the lyrics. The most extreme example is "Re-evolution," on which Terence McKenna explains the relationship between house music/rave culture and the ancient beliefs of Shamanism, saying how the youth culture of the 90's is leading to an "archaic revival". "We're putting across the information of what Shamanism is, why the rhythm is important, why it is important to dance, the ideas about planetary consciousness and human evolution," explains Angus. "We've put this across in the lyrics of most of the tracks, particularly the title track and 'Re-evolution'." To support En-tact, the Shamen brought their "Progeny" show to America for their first-ever tour of this country. A continuation of the groups "Synergy" nights in London, the shows featured sets by The Shamen and Moby, in addition to a variety of DJs. Although on a smaller scale, these gave many Americans their first tastes of the all-night raves that have been going on in England since acid house hit. The aim is to make the audience feel like they're part of the event, rather than just fans out to see a band. The group always goes out into the crowd and mingles after their set is over. Late last year, The Shamen brought "Progeny" back to the States with Utah Saints in the support slot. For the live shows, Angus says that the group breaks down their studio and re-creates it on stage. The Shamen run all of the sequencers live, adding keyboards, drums and guitar on top of it. "It's quite a time-consuming set-up to reconstruct every night and a lot of work for the people making the music and for the man who's mixing the sound," explains Angus. "But it is a very, very live sound and that's what sets us apart from other dance artists." The Shamen is currently a trio of Angus, Mr.C. and vocalist Jhelisa, formerly of Soul Family Sensation. Angus says that the line-up has worked out well and that he has been pleasantly surprised by the amount of collaborating he's been doing with Mr. C. "Coming from a DJing background, he's obviously sharpening up the rhythms," he explains. "But on a lot of the raps he does, we're actually working out the words for those together." All the vocal talent in the band creates a big difference between the sound of En-tact and Boss Drum. Angus no longer handles all the lead vocals, and on some tracks, such as "LSI," the voices of all three are equally prevalent. As a whole, Boss Drum is a much stronger effort than En-tact due to more variety in the songs and a more dance-oriented sound. Angus explained that this time around less emphasis was placed on sampling and the group concentrated on creating their own rhythms and sounds, often going back to the classic analogue synths that were the backbone of acid house. The group sees themselves as more of a house band than a rave or techno act. Angus feels that the rave scene has lost a lot of its power, now that it is dominated by insanely fast hardcore techno. "The music has become far too fast for dancing to properly," he explains. "It's certainly become far too fast to be psychologically empowering - it doesn't alter neurological states in the same way that music between 90 and 130 bpm does." Ultramarine By combining the sounds of traditional instruments with electronics, Britain's Ultramarine have created a form of ambient house music that has an organic feel missing from much of today's electronic based music. Unlike many other electronic bands, Ultramarine creates music with a very natural feel, and the influence of 70s rock and folk music can be heard just as strongly as electronic influences. Late last year, the group released its US debut, Every Man and Woman is a Star, and came to America to do their first-ever tour. Originally quartet, Ultramarine is now a duo of Paul Cooper and Ian Hammond. Hammond and Cooper, who hail from Essex, England and have been friends since they were 14, were originally part of A Primary Industry. After that band's demise, the duo started up Ultramarine in 1988. The group's first release was 1989's Wyndlam Lewis, a project that used the spoken words of the aritist/satirist of the same name. For that, Ultramarine took 1940 recordings made of Lewis in 1940 and made it part of their music. A year later, Ultramarine released their first proper album, Folk. The use of acoustic instruments has been toned down on the new LP, though it is still there. One reason for the change was the paring down of the group from a four-piece to a two-peice between albums, which forced Hammond and Cooper to use electronics in order to fill out the sound. Also, the prices of samplers and other equipment has come down since that time, giving the band access to more gear. In creating the music, Ultramarine tend to start out writing on computer (an Atari running QBase) and then coming up with the live parts. "We tend to build up just from the simplist thing, like a sound or a tiny little sample," explains Cooper. "It's just a case of layering, really, we often just layer it right up and then strip out what we don't need and then build the live playing around it." On the latest lp, the balance between live instruments and electronics varies from track to track, ranging from 25 percent live, percent sequenced to a 50/50 split. With the ability of samplers and synths to reproduce the sounds of real instruments, it is often impossible to tell which parts are coming from live instruments, and the group says that they made a point to mix it this way. While most bands have vocals on the majority of their songs, throwing in the occasional instruments, Ultramarine has done the opposite on their latest effort. All of Every Man and Women is a Star is instrumental (not counting vocal samples) except "Wierd Gear," which does feature sung vocals. The group brought in "a friend of a friend" named Brendan Staunton to do the vocals on the track, which is a cover of a Kevin Ayers song. "Originally, that song did have vocal samples on it," explains Hammond. "As they were such large samples, we had to get clearance for them. And we thought, 'hey, let's just get clearance for the whole song and get someone to sing them.'" Though their music does not normally have vocals, Ultramarine see themselves as creating "songs," as opposed to instrumental pieces. The group uses verse-chorus structure and says that they are influenced more by singer/songwriters than other forms of music. The group says that adapting Ultramarine to the live setting had posed a bit of a problem. The duo had done some club shows in England by themselves but were not happy with the way things turned out and chose to expand the line-up for future gigs. When the group did the Communion tour, they added a drummer and keyboardist and also used live bass on a few songs. "It's quite a complex thing to get to transfer across," says Hammond. "It's quite complex musically what we do, there's a lot of different elemtents in there. We really had to go through each song in depth and work out what was going to work live and what wasn't." To keep a live feel to the pre-programmed parts, Ultramarine runs all of the sequences live off floppy disk to an on-stage 16-channel mixing desk. "Every single element is affected live and can be changed live," explains Hammond. SINGLE GUN THEORY On their last LP, Like Stars in My Hands, Australia 's Single Gun Theory proved to be masters at creating non-synthetic sounding electronic music. Unlike their more industrial album debut, Exorcise This Wasteland, the LP had a very warm, natural tone, due primarily to the ambient samples recorded by members Pete Rivett-Carnac and Jacqui Hunt on their travels to the Far East. The trio is currently composing tracks for a new LP, which they will record in Vancouver for a summer release. Single Gun Theory had their beginnings back in 1984. Pete and Kath P ower had been friends and decided to get some musical gear and put a band together. "We saw Jacqui in a band and thought that's the singer we want," says Kath. "Somehow we conned her i nto joining up - we nabbed her." Her pre-Single Gun band had been Jacqui's first time sing ing with a group and turned out not to be a good experience for her. "I was not really doing the kin d of music that I liked," she explains. "So that's why when opportunity came up to join Kath and Pete it was great." Over the years, the evolution of technology has made the group change a great deal. In the beginning, the band just had a few analogue synths and a four-track, but now they have gotten into computers and samplers. "I think the sampler changed a lot of what we do," says Kath. "Because we've integrated and used that as much as we can. We've always liked tec hnology a lot." The music is composed by Kath and Pete, who use Macintosh computers and 8-track tape so that they can work on material individually and then have the other add to it and make changes . "Kath will come up with the vocal idea, usually with chords and stuff as well," explains Pe te. "I strip away all the music and just leave the vocal line and write the music around it. It seem s to work for us." Most of the words are written by Kath, who sees lyrics as a good way to expsress emotions. "In some ways I'm a good communicator, and in someways I'm not," she expl ains. "I think I use music as a vehicle for communication." The unusual incorporation of E astern music and vocal samples came about after Pete and Jacqui's travels through India, Turkey, and South East Asia in 1989. Pete recorded sounds that he liked on a portable cassette recorder, not really knowing what would be done with them. When he returned home, he sampled and experimented with them and began using them on the songs that would become Like Stars In My Hands. These sounds are particularly effective on the LP's first single, "From a Million Miles," where the "pray for me" sample fits in perfectly with Jacqui's vocals. This type of sampling creates a wide array of mu sical possibilities, though Pete doesn't want to say what's in store on the new LP. But he di d say there will be more samples from Asia and the fact that he's living in a city now will be a contributing factor. Beyond the sounds used, the music on Like Stars in My Hands is quite a bit different from Exorcise The Wasteland, and the group says this was mainly a reaction to general changes in music they were listening to. Pete says the new LP is turning out to be a bit more accessible than their past music, even though there was no conscious effort to create a more commercial sound. Having released only two albums in eight years, Single Gun Theory are not the most prolific group in the world. One explanation for this is that all the members still have day jobs. Kath is a licensed psychotherapist, Jacqui does fashion design and Pete works in the computer field. Even though they are signed to one of the largest independent labels (Nettwerk) and have distribution through IRS, the members do not see Single Gun Theory as their main career right now. "It would be fantastic if we could do it full-time ," says Jacqui. "But there's a certain quality to life that we're used to now because we work and we want to maintain that, too. If we did do music full-time, we'd still have other little projects that we'd do outside of music because I think we're just like that. As three individ uals, we can't just dedicate our lives to one thing." The group got their deal with Nettwerk when Pete was playing keyboards with Severed Heads and gave the label a demo of Single Gun Theory. " It was a bit of luck there," he says. "You have to have some sort of lucky break, and for us it was that Severed Heads tour and being able to meet the people at the record company." Single Gun Theory has yet to tour America, though they hope the new album will bring them here. The group tends to put on elaborate stage shows with Indian and belly dancers on stage and video screens. Adapting th e music to the live setting still poses a problem for the band, who are forced to use backing DATs. "We can't really afford to buy enough samplers to do it," explains Pete. "And we can 't really get live musicians because most of the instruments don't actually exist. Most of the sounds that we use are made up inside the Macintosh, using Alchemy [a sample processing program]." The success of Like Stars in My Hands has come as a surprise to the band, who were only expecting the LP to sell about 1,000 copies. In Australia alone, the album sold 10,000 copies and made it to number 41 in the mainstream music charts. But being an Australian band on a North American label, Single Gun Theory feel a bit sheltered from their public. "Because we're here in Australia, we don't really feel that it is successful," explains Jacqui. "You know that it must be reason ably successful because you're making another record. We do feel isolated in a way from success. It' s there, and that's nice, but it's not overwhelming." THE ORB Probably the most interesting strain of dance music to emerge in recent years has been ambient sound of The Orb. Who would have thought that long, slow tracks fusing natural sounds with classic analogue synths but virtually no drums would appeal to the club crowd? But Britain's The Orb have proved that this can work. Their latest LP, UFOrb is a collection of atmospheric electronic tracks that virtually always exceed 10 minutes in running time. Dr. Alex Paterson started up The Orb in 1988 with Jimi Cauty, who later went on to The KLF. Paterson had been working in the music industry before this, starting out as a roadie for Killing Joke before getting involved with A&R. Influenced heavily by New York's KISS FM, Paterson started getting into dance music and set up a label with Youth. His own project evolved out of this, and Paterson took the name The Orb "because it's very round." In October of that year, the group released its first single, the four track Kiss EP. This was followed in Spring of 1989 by the ground breaking "A Huge Evergrowing Pulsating Brain The Rules From the Centre of the Ultraworld," a track that Paterson cites as The Orb's best ever. "It was breaking ground where no one had actually done anything," he explains. "Listening to dance music with the drums all the time all the time, and then suddenly all the drums disappear and you're left with this hypnotic eight bar loop which we then deliberately sampled in waves and bird sounds." Cauty left the band in 1990 when the KLF began to take off. That project was signed to Rough Trade, who wanted everything Cauty worked on to go to the label (The Orb was already signed to WAU!). To take his place, Thrash, a mix engineer who worked with The Orb on "Little Fluffy Clouds" was made a full time member. In putting together the ambient soundscapes of UFOrb, the group used a wide variety of sources. For example, many sounds came from Paterson's travels to Morocco, the Philippines, and Nepal. Peterson says that while in Morocco he had a hidden microphone that he used to capture the sound of his surroundings. Another of Paterson's favorite sources of sound were NASA outer space sounds. "They made a record out of the sounds, it's appalling, it's like a Vangelis type 1812 Overture gone horribly wrong," he explains. "That's NASA for you." Space and science fictional influences figure prominently in The Orb's work, particularly in the song titles and visuals. Paterson attributes this to watching too much "Thunderbirds", "Land Of The Giants" and "Lost In Space" as a child. "Lost In Space is pretty good, really," he says, jokingly adding that "it should be the next album." On the surface, UFOrb sounds a great deal more ambient than the group's debut, Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld. But Paterson says this is only the case with the US release. Originally, Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld was a double album, but Paterson was told that the ten tracks must be cut down to five minutes each in order to fit them on a single disk. "I said no way, so we ditched a whole side of ambience," explains Paterson. "And you've got a really, really drumy version of 'Star 67' and a pop version of 'Perpetual Dawn'. I was really pissed off, and it's been my cross to bear ever since with the American public, and I'm sorry, it's not my fault." This wasn't the only record company action that came an an annoyance to Paterson. A remix cd of "Blue Room" was given away free with the initial pressing of the new LP, and this was done without the group's permission. To top it off, this bonus disc included "Assassin," a track that had proved to be a top 20 hit in Britain. "To me, it's just complete and utter ludicrousy," says Paterson. "We spent untold amount of months on the record and are very proud of it, not to be given away as a freebie for an album. It's not even meant for that album, it's meant to be on the third album." For the "Blue Room" single, The Orb did a 40 minute remix. Previously, British regulations prevented any single exceeding 20 minutes from entering the charts. This of course just led to fans buying the imports from Europe and America. So the British regulation was adjusted up to 40 minutes in 1989, and The Orb felt obliged to take advantage of it. But the group didn't just rush into it for a sake of making a 40 minute song; the track evolved over the course of several months. The Orb were meant to embark on their second North American tour in March, but it was called of due to legal problems. Next up for Paterson and Thrash is work on the next Robert Fripp album with Brian Eno. UTAH SAINTS With the thousands of limited-run dance singles being put out by new bands, the chances of them leading anywhere are small. But every once and a while, a band will stumble upon a hit and find themselves propelled to stardom. Then, of course, chances are they'll never follow it up and be doomed to becoming one-hit wonders. But The Utah Saints have managed to avoid this trap, and on their new self-titled LP, the group shows that there is much more to them than their hit singles. The Utah Saints had their beginnings about two years ago when Jez Willis and Tim Garbutt got together and recorded "What Can You Do For Me." Garbutt had come from a DJing background, while Willis had previous band experience before also becoming a DJ. Both were DJing at the same club in Leeds, England, when they started going to each others nights and decided to make a record together. The duo pressed up a thousand copies of their single at first, planning to only sell one or two thousand total. But much to their surprise, the single sold 175,000 copies within three months. As a follow-up, The Utah Saints released "Something Good," a techno-oriented track that features the voice of Kate Bush. The fact that Bush let them use the sample, taken from "Cloudbusting", was another big surprise. "She's never allowed anybody to release something with a sample of her work on it before, so she either liked it or we got lucky," says Willis. As an example of how careful Bush can be about who uses her work, Garbutt explained that a filmmaker wanted to use "Something Good" as part of the soundtrack to a movie. As Bush takes partial songwriting credit for the song due to the use of her voice, the idea has to be cleared through her. The singer requested to see the script before making a decision. "She cares a lot about her work," says Garbutt In putting together a video for the song, The Utah Saints did something unusual and went so far as to use footage from the original "Cloudbusting" clip. Of course, Bush had to approve it and did request some changes, but the group feels it was worth the trouble. The Utah Saints even went so far as to try to locate the machine from the video to take on the road with them, but the group heard that it was now in Bush's house and felt asking to use it would be pushing it a bit. So far, the Utah Saints have never had the problem of not being able to get clearance for a sample used in one of their songs. Garbutt says that as DJs, they have a pretty good idea of what things are likely to get cleared and what to stay away from. Though many of the samples they use are recognizable, the group never samples something that is the essence of a song to call their own. "There's a market for that, obviously MC Hammer is a lot bigger than us," explains Willis. "But it's just not the way we work." With their sudden success, The Utah Saints were forced to move quickly. Their American record label, London, wanted an album, so the duo worked furiously in the studio to get one done. "We are happy with it," says Willis. "The situation with the band is that we're evolving all the time. And we've had to evolve at a very rapid pace." The group says that there was nothing too deep in the choosing of their name. The idea of using the word "Utah" came to the group when watching the film "Raising Arizona." They heard it in the last line and thought that the word was a "quite a satisfying word and it's underused." In looking for a name, Garbutt and Willis were looking for something that was not used before and didn't come along with any preconceived notions of what a band with the name would be like. They also wanted something that would look good on a T-shirt and stage backdrop, and "Utah Saints" fit the bill on all accounts. Because they are an entirely electronic band, the Utah Saints have a harder time adapting to the live setting than traditional bands. The group uses DATs for the backing parts, to avoid the hassle of bringing along a computer and adds three additional musicians. But the nature of the group's songs presents an additional problem. "When we play live, there are five males on stage and a lot of female vocals flying around," explains Willis. The group toyed with the idea of bringing in someone to either mime the vocals or sing but ultimately decided against it. "You have to get a balance," says Garbutt. "If we were trying to do 100% of it live, it would be so much work. We'd have to have quite a few more people on stage and everyone would have to concentrate so hard It's like would it be so exiting to watch? You have to get the balance right and try to put a show into it as well." One thing that the group tries to do is let the audience know what is going on. For example, if a song has a guitar sound but there are no actual guitars on stage, Willis will hit his strap-on keyboard between songs to show the audience that the sound is coming from him. Though the Utah Saints' music is primarily instrumental, Willis does sing on a few of the songs. The group says that it just does whatever it takes to finish a piece of music, whether it be sung vocals or samples. "The one thing I hope we never do is decide that we have to stick to a given formula," explains Willis. "On the other hand, I think that we'll always have a Utah sound, so that people can recognize the records as a Utah Saints record. But we're not going to pin ourselves down and say 'right, we've got to do another "Something Good" or we've got to do another "What Can You Do For Me",' that would be the end of the band." The fact that Willis comes from a rock background and Garbutt from dance allows the band to keep constant check that the music doesn't lean too much in either direction. Being a new band whose rise to success has been very quick, The Utah Saints are not looking too far ahead into their future and are just taking things as they come. The group jokes that should it all end and they be dropped by their label, they can always come back and use another state's name before the word "Saints." "It's kind of daunting. We're taking big risks because instead of developing for a couple of years and then getting the corporate push, we're developing in public," explains Willis. "So we're always trying out things and most of the time it seems to work."