Article 7457 of alt.conspiracy: Xref: descartes alt.conspiracy:7457 alt.activism:9380 talk.politics.misc:27529 misc.headlines:4122 s.rights.human:1979 soc.culture.latin-america:3436 soc.culture.usa:3884 alt.society.civil-liberty:357alt.censorship:4560 Path: descartes!watmath!watserv1!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ciohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnewsl!jad From: jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.rights.human,soc.cultu.latin-america,soc.culture.usa,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.censorship Subject: Ex-CIA OFFICER STOCKWELL DESCRIBES THE CIA's NAZIISTIC TORTURE CHAMBERS Keywords: John Stockwell, CIA torture, the Christic Institute Message-ID: <1992Apr11.215827.16665@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Date: 11 Apr 92 21:58:27 GMT Followup-To: alt.conspiracy, soc.rights.human Distribution: na Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 284 Thanks to Kerry Miller, we can now learn a bit more about the CIA's naziistic atrocities. Kerry made the following transcript from an off-the-air tape recording that I made of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM Radio (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NARRATOR: John Stockwell spent 13 years with the CIA, including serving as a case officer in Africa and Viet Nam. He was commander of the CIA's secret war in Angola in 1975 and 1976. JOHN STOCKWELL: In that job I sat on the subcommitteee of the National Security Council, so I was like the Chief of Staff, with GS-18s -- like three star generals -- Henry Kissinger, Bill Colby, the GS-18s in the CIA, making important decisions. My job was to put it all together, make it happen, and run it. It was an interesting place from which to watch a covert action being done. NARRATOR: Stockwell began his CIA career in Africa. JOHN STOCKWELL: We were doing things that seemed [?] because we were there, because it was our function. We were bribing people, corrupting people, and not protecting the US in any visible way. I had a chance to go drinking with Larry Devlin, the famous CIA case officer who had overthrown Patrice Lumumba, and had him killed back in 1960, in the Congo. He was moving into Africa Division Chief. I talked with him at length one night, and he was giving me an explanation. I was telling him, "Frankly, sir, you know this stuff doesn't make any sense. We're not saving anybody from anything, and we are corrupting people. And everybody knows we're doing it, and that makes the US look bad." He said I was getting too big for my britches. He said I was "trying to think like the people in the NSC back in Washington, who have the big picture, who know what is going on in the world, who have all the secret information, and the experience to digest it. If they decide we should have somebody in Bujumbura, Burundi, and that person should be you, then you should do your job. Wait till you have more experience, and work your way up to that point, and then you'll understand national secuirity, and you can make the big decisions. Now, get to work, and stop this philosophizing." And I said, "Aye, aye, sir. Sorry, sir. Bit out of line, sir." It's a powerful argument. Our presidents use it on us. President Reagan has used it on the American people saying, "If you knew what I know about the situation in Central America, you would understand why it's necessary for us to intervene." NARRATOR: In Viet Nam, Stockwell ran a CIA intelligence gathering post. JOHN STOCKWELL: I had to work with a sadistic police chief. He liked to carve people with knives in the CIA safe house. When I reported this to my bosses, they said, One: the post is too important to close down. Two: they weren't going to get the man transferred or fired because that would make problems politically. He was very good at working with us in the operations he worked on. Three: therefore, if I didn't have the stomach for it, they could transfer me, but they hastened to point out that if I did demonstrate a lack of moral fiber, to handle working with this sadistic police chief, I wouldn't get another good job with the CIA. It would be a mark against my career. So I kept the job. I closed the safe house down. I told my staff that I didn't approve of that kind of activity, and proceeded to work with him for the next two years, pretending that I had reformed him and that he didn't do this sort of thing anymore. The parallel is obvious with El Salvador today, where the CIA, the State Department, works with the death squads. NARRATOR: In this second part of our special presentation, John Stockwell brings us up to date with his experiences after leaving the CIA in 1977. He discusses CIA covert operations in Central America, CIA manipulation of the press, and CIA experiments conducted on the US public. John Stockwell: The Secret Wars of the CIA, brought to you by the Other Americas Radio and your local public radio station. JOHN STOCKWELL: "What we're going to talk about tonight are the CIA's secret wars. But the subject is much broader than merely little CIA dirty tricks and shenanigans. We're talking about a situation -- we're living in a world which has grievous problems. Our planet is terminally ill, and it's not a long term disease. We're talking about the nuclear arms race. This is something. These 52,000, soon to be 70,000, nuclear weapons are going to be going off sooner rather than later. At the same time, the world is facing serious economic problems, of the sort that triggered world wars in the past. Leaders of countries, leaders of banks, for purposes basically of greed, have never been able to balance their checkbooks. They always overspend. They run countries into bankruptcy. When the world has gotten blocked up before, like a Monopoly game where everything is owned and nobody can make any progress, the way they erase the board and start over has been to have big world wars. Erase countries, bomb cities, and bomb banks, and then start from scratch again. This is not an option to us now, because of all these 52,000 nuclear weapons. The Center for Defense Information counts 60 wars that are being fought in the world today, in which they estimate 5 million people will die. The US is on the brink of its next war: the Central American War. In this situation of a volatile world, about as troubled as it can get, the US CIA is running 50 covert actions, destabilizing further almost one third of the countries in the world today. Now these things inter-relate. The nuclear arms race, conventional wars, the world debt, CIA covert actions; they're all viewed from our point of view, they're all part of our national security. They're supervised by the National Security Council - the National Security Advisor advises the President - and we respond to them in terms of our own national security compulsions. By the way, everything I'm sharing with you tonight is in the public record. The 50 covert actions are secret, but that [information] has been leaked to us by members of the oversight committee of Congress. I urge you not to take my word for anything. I'm going to stand here and tell you and give you examples of how our leaders lie. Obviously, I could be lying. The only way you can figure it out for yourselves is to educate yourselves. The French have a saying, "Them that don't do politics will be done." If you don't fill your mind eagerly with the truth, dig out the records, go and see for yourself, then your mind remains blank, and your adrenalin pumps, and you can be excited and mobilized to do things that are not in your interest to do. Approaching this subject from my own point of view, my own experience, my special expertise, the CIA covert actions, let's look at Nicaragua. This is the most famous covert action of the 50 that are going on today. They say there are 13 "major" ones. This is not the biggest one. Afghanistan is. We've spent several hundred million dollars in Afghanistan, We've spent somewhat less than that, but close, in Nicaragua. Nicaragua is the most famous one, and there's a reason. Part of it is, it's closer, but a big part of it is the fact that the Administration is using Nicaragua for a very special purpose, so they have made it public from the outset. What this is, is a technique of destabilization (in covert action, you call it destabilization). You have a target: a government that you don't like. You pick a country you're going to go after. The reasons are quite whimsical. We go after a country for a while, and if it doesn't work, sometimes we wind up big friends with them. They pick a government, they target them, they send the CIA in with its resources and its activists: hiring people, hiring agents to tear apart the social and economic fabric of the country. [It's] a technique for putting pressure on the government, hoping they can make the government come to the US's terms, or that the government will collapse altogether and they can engineer a coup d'etat, and have the thing wind up with their own choice of people in power. Now ripping apart the economic and social fabric is fairly textbookish. What we're talking about is going in and deliberately creating conditions where the farmer can't get his produce to market; where children can't go to school; where women are terrified, inside their homes as well as outside; where government administered programs grind to a complete halt; where the hospitals are treating wounded people, instead of sick people; where international capital is scared away and the country goes bankrupt. If you ask the State Dept. today what is their official explanation of the purpose of the Contras, they say, it is to attack economic targets, meaning, break up the economy of the country. Of course, they're attacking a lot more. To destabilize Nicaragua, beginning in 1981, we began funding this force of Somoza's ex-National Guardsmen, calling them the Contras, the counter- revolutionaries. We created this force, which did not exist until we allocated money. We armed them. We put uniforms on their backs and boots on their feet, gave them camps in Honduras to live in, medical supplies, doctors, training, leadership, direction as we sent them in to destabilize Nicaragua. Under our direction, they have been systematically blowing up bridges, sawmills, grainaries, government offices, schools, health centers. They ambush trucks so the produce can't get to market, they raid farms and villages - the farmer has to carry a gun while he tries to plow, if he can plow at all. If you want one example of hard proof of the CIA's involvement in this and their approach to it, dig up the "Sabotage Manual" that they were circulating throughout Nicaragua. [It was] a comic-book type of a paper, with visual explanations of what you can do to bring a society to a halt: how you can gum up typewriters, what you can pour in a gas tank to burn up engines, what you can stuff in a sewer to stop up the sewage so it won't work; things you can do to make a society simply cease to function. Systematically, the Contras have been assassinating religious workers, teachers, health workers, elected officials, government administrators. Remember the "Assassination Manual" that surfaced in 1984? It caused such a stir that President Reagan had to address it himself in the presidential debates with Walter Mondale. They used terror to traumatize society so that it can't function. I dont mean to abuse you with verbal violence, but you have to understand what your government and its agents are doing. They go into villages. They haul out families. With the children forced to watch, they castrate the father. They peel the skin off his face. They put a grenade in his mouth, and pull the pin. With the children forced to watch, they gang-rape the mother, and slash her breasts off. And sometimes for variety, they make the parents watch while they do these things to the children. This is nobody's propaganda! There have been over 100,000 American Witnesses for Peace who've gone down there, and they have filmed and photographed and witnessed these atrocities immediately after they've happened, and documented 13,000 people killed this way -- mostly women and children. These are the activites done by the Contras. The Contras are the people President Reagan called "freedom fighters." He said: "They are the moral equivalent of our founding fathers." [*] In 1960, we came up with a new term, a policy of trying to correct the problems of Central and Latin America, the economic imbalances, by addressing them directly. President Kennedy's famous program. He said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable." However, the millions and millions of dollars that we put into this program, inevitably went to the rich, and not to the [ordinary] people of the countries involved. While we were doing this -- or trying, saying we were trying to correct the problems of Central and Latin America -- the CIA was doing its thing too. The CIA was, in fact, forming the police units that are, today, the death squads in El Salvador. The leaders [were] on the CIA's payroll, trained by the CIA in the US. We had the public safety program going, throughout Central and Latin America for 26 years, in which we taught them to break up subversion by interrogating people. Interrogation, including torture, the way the CIA taught it. Dan Mitrione, the exponent of these things, spent 7 years in Brazil, and three in Uruguay, teaching interrogation, teaching torture. He was supposed to be the master of the business: how to apply the right amount of pain, at just the right times, in order to get the response you want from the individual. They gave them crank generators -- with USAID written on the side, so the people even knew where these things came from -- and developed a wire that was strong enough to carry the current and fine enough to fit between the teeth, so you could put one wire between the teeth, and the other in or around the genitals. You could crank, and submit the individual to the greatest amount of pain, supposedly, that the human body can register. Now, how do you teach torture? Dan Mitrione, I can teach you about torture, but sooner or later you have to get involved. You have to lay on your hands and try it yourself. They would pick up guinea pigs off the streets: beggars, and take them in to use in these torture training classes. Of course, the horror of that is, these people wouldn't know why they were being tortured. They couldn't give up. They couldn't say, "I'm sorry. Stop the pain. I'll tell you the names of everybody involved." All they could do was lie there and scream. When they would collapse, they would bring in doctors who would shoot them up with Vitamin B and rest them up for the next class. And when they would die, they would mutilate the bodies and throw them out on the streets to terrify the population, so that everybody would be afraid of the police and the government. This is what the CIA was teaching them to do. One of the women who was in this program for two years -- tortured in Brazil for two years -- testified internationally when she eventually got out. She said the most horrible thing about it, in fact, was that the people doing it were not raving psychopaths. She couldn't break mental contact with them the way you could if they were psychopaths. They were very ordinary people. She told about being tortured one day. She's on this table, naked in a room full of six men, and they're doing these incredibly painful degrading things to her body. And there's an interruption. The American is called to the telephone, and he's in the next room, and the others take a smoke break. She's lying on this table, and he's saying: "Oh, hi Honey. Yes, I can wrap it up here in another hour or so, and meet you and the kids at the Ambassador's on the way home." There's a lesson in all this. The lesson is: It isn't just the Gestapo maniacs, or KGB maniacs, who do inhuman things to other people. It's PEOPLE who do inhuman things to other people. And we are responsible for doing these things on a massive basis, to people of the world today. We do it in a way that gives us plausible denial to our own consciences. We create a CIA, a secret police, with a vast budget, and let them go and run these programs in our name. We pretend like we don't know what's going on, though the information is there for us to know. And we pretend like it's okay because we're fighting some vague communist threat. We're just as responsible for these one to three million people we've slaughtered, and for all the people we've tortured and made miserable, as the Gestapo was for the people that they slaughtered and killed. Genocide is genocide! AMY GOODMAN: That is John Stockwell, with excerpts from two of his talks on "The Secret Wars of the CIA." I'm Amy Goodman. ************************** [* A recent article from Propaganda Review commented: "Interestingly, when Reagan said that the contras were 'the moral equivalent of our Founding Fathers' he was correct in ways he would not have wanted to acknowledge. Specifically, in the first Red Scare in this country's history, the 'threat' posed by Native Americans, 18th and 19th century US forces, like the contras, made extensive and systematic use of murder, torture, and other forms of terrorism against Indian noncombatants. Mr. Reagan's unconsciously ironic comment reminds us that the history of American political demonology has been a long one, and its consequences have been far more than ideological."] |{hm kerry miller * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Now, more than ever before, the Christic Institute needs your help to rescue it and ensure its continued dedication to prosecuting our Government's crimes against humanity, as we would have striven to prosecute the evil Third Reich for its crimes against humanity. Daniel Sheehan, Lead Attorney The Christic Institute 1324 North Capitol St., N.W. Washington, D.C. 20002 (202) 797-8106 Lacking our help, the CIA may well succeed in its current assassination plot against this public-interest law group which has valiantly confronted overwhleming powers with the only weapon available to common citizens: the law under our Constitution. John DiNardo Article 7464 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Path: descartes!watmath!watserv1!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-ste.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!aq817 From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker) Subject: Re: Ex-CIA OFFICER STOCKWELL DESCRIBES THE CIA's NAZIISTIC TORTURE CHAMBERS Message-ID: <1992Apr12.071219.29083@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ins.cwru.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: cwns2.ins.cwru.edu Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 07:12:19 GMT Lines: 27 In the beginning post of this thread John Dinardo posts a transcript by Kerry Miller of a presentation by John Stockwell. Stockwell goes on for a while about the various evils he encountered in his own CIA work, and then says: Now ripping apart the economic and social fabric is fairly textbookish. What we're talking about is going in and deliberately creating conditions where the farmer can't get his produce to market; where children can't go to school; where women are terrified, inside their homes as well as outside; where government administered programs grind to a complete halt; where the hospitals are treating wounded people, instead of sick people; where international capital is scared away and the country goes bankrupt. Why does this sound so hauntingly familiar? Why do I keep getting a weird half-realized sense that I myself have lived in or around the kind of conditions Stockwell is describing? I've lived my entire life right here in the good ole US of A. I've NEVER lived in one of those countries Stockwell is describing that has been targeted for "destabilization". Have I??? Article 7478 of alt.conspiracy: Path: descartes!watmath!watserv1!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!zaphodps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!po.CWRU.Edu!dxc4 From: dxc4@po.CWRU.Edu (David Condon) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Ralph McGehee on Grenada Message-ID: <1992Apr13.053826.29253@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> Date: 13 Apr 92 05:38:26 GMT Sender: news@usenet.ins.cwru.edu Reply-To: dxc4@po.CWRU.Edu (David Condon) Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Lines: 63 Nntp-Posting-Host: cwns5.ins.cwru.edu Thanks to John DiNardo for providing me with this tape of a brief excerpt of a press conference by former CIA agent Ralph McGehee, broadcast on radio station WBAI in New York. ____________________________________________________________________ My own particular distress, if you want to call it -- it's much more than that -- with the Agency was deceptions over Vietnam. There were so many, it's hard to talk about. Its intelligence was almost an arm of its disinformation. Just one -- I'm not going to have time to go into that, but I'll talk about Grenada. I think the masterpiece of all disinformation operations, the _Piet`a_ of disinformation, was the operation at Grenada. Now the United States invaded Grenada on the basis that Grenada posed a threat to America's national security. Here's an island nation of 100,000 people, half of them children; they had no army, no navy, no air force, they didn't even have a commercial airline, that we invaded because it posed a threat to America's national security. Now you can sell that to the American people, you can sell them anything. And indeed, after this was done, Reagan's popularity soared. How did we do it? The armada that was going off to the Middle East because of the bombing of the Marines in Lebanon took a short stop at Grenada, and all media were not allowed on the island for several days. The President went on television and said, "My fellow Americans, we got there just in time. We found three warehouses loaded to the rafters, one with Communist weapons." And Grenada was going to sponsor revolution throughout all of Central America, the whole story. Finally, when the media was allowed on the island, they rushed to the warehouse to see these Communist weapons, and they noted that there were only some Communist weapons, only half full, and many of them were American weapons. Of course, you have to realise that the Department of Defense was solely in charge of disseminating information at that particular point, and [they were asked] well, how could these be Communist weapons? "Well, they were left behind in Vietnam." Later on, these weapons, by a circuitous route, ended up back in the CIA. There is also -- when the story that Grenada posed a threat to national security began to fade, you know, people began to appreciate that this little tiny country couldn't really pose a threat to anybody, we then retreated to television, on the nightly news, showing an artillery barrage, against -- they were wiping out pockets of Cuban resistance. What we weren't told was that this was totally staged: there was nobody shooting back. They were just shooting up in the mountains, some of the American soldiers shooting up there, and this was portrayed to us as wiping out pockets of Cuban intervention. Later we came to find out that Cuba had about fifty airport workers on the island, one or two military advisors, but that was after all the information had had its effect. My time is out. Disformation operations are the plurality of CIA covert operations; they have had a very mighty impact, particularly on the Vietnam war, which cost somewhere between three hundred and nine hundred billion dollars. Whenever you want to determine a target for overthrow, you look at the focus of the media and the use of its deception operations, and you can pretty well determine that this is a target. Thank you. -- Full frontal nudity? Yes, I'd do it if it was valid ... er, if the money was valid ... and if it were a small part. Article 7483 of alt.conspiracy: Xref: descartes alt.conspiracy.jfk:272 alt.conspiracy:7483 alt.activism:9452 Path: descartes!watmath!watserv1!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!olivea!sgigate!odin!ratmandu.esd.sgi.com!ve From: dave@ratmandu.esd.sgi.com (dave "who can do? ratmandu!" ratcliffe) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism Subject: Playing God With the Forty Committee Keywords: CIA's mandate was only for correlation and evaluation of intelligence Message-ID: <1992Apr13.155047.28795@odin.corp.sgi.com> Date: 13 Apr 92 15:50:47 GMT Sender: news@odin.corp.sgi.com (Net News) Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Lines: 489 Nntp-Posting-Host: ratmandu.esd.sgi.com Henry Kissinger . . . did not relinquish [the] CIA-oriented job [of National Security Advisor] when he became Secretary of State. This is no doubt an unauthorized and perhaps illegal use of this position because the law requires that the President have a National Security Advisor. By his very duties this advisor performs functions that are in direct conflict with those of the Secretary of State. . . . Since [the mid-50s] the Special Group or Forty Committee has become a power unto itself. The State Department has thousands of career people who are responsible for the Foreign Policy of the United States to the Forty Committee's five men. They approve items that have much greater impact on world events than the State Department. They do this secretly, without proper review, without comprehensive experience and often without anyone but a very few "spooks" knowing about it. Technically the CIA does not have this authority, and legally this is not the way things should be done. The CIA was never given this power by law and should not be permitted to continue this practice. No new laws are needed; the present law should be followed precisely and enforced. The CIA is in existence to perform an intelligence function and no more. the following appeared in the February, 1975 issue of "Genesis:" ______________________________________________________________________ The Forty Committee By L. Fletcher Prouty reprinted this one time only with permission of the author "By God, Prouty, those bastards are going to let them murder Trujillo. They go around telling everyone this shit about anticommunism; invading Cuba with a half-assed task force and then when they have one tough son-of-a-bitch right there in the heart of the Caribbean, what do they do? They take away his support. He'll be dead in less than forty-eight hours." General Darcy was spitting mad. He was one of the toughest guys who ever strapped himself into a P-51 fighter. He was a real professional. He believed in fighting the Cold War as hard as he had fought the total war against Hitler. Now, in May 1961, less than one month after the Bay of Pigs, he had just come back from a meeting of the Forty Committee (then called the Special Group 5412/2). They were playing God again and Rafael Trujillo, the dictatorial president of the Dominican Republic, was the next target for termination. "Prouty, before you go back to your shop, go down to personnel. Find out what it takes to retire. This is not my game. I'm getting out." Before Darcy's papers could be processed, Trujillo was dead, murdered in the city that carried his name, by men of his own army. Tom Darcy had made it clear many times that he had no love for Trujillo nor for what he stood; but despite that he knew Trujillo would never condone communism, and anyway, "it is not our business to mess around in their internal affairs." Assassinations are not *made* by the Forty Committee; they are *permitted*. When the South Vietnamese military found out that the U.S. was withdrawing its support from the Diem brothers in Saigon, there was but one thing for the Diems to do. Take that preferred plane ride and leave quickly. Trujillo was too proud to heed the warning, and he was shot down in the streets. The Diems were too stubborn. They returned to their palace to find that their CIA- trained elite guard--their only real personal protection--had vanished. They were defenseless, dead. Many of the telegrams that tell this story are contained in the "Pentagon Papers." Anyone can see how this country removed its support from the Diems' government and all but engineered their murders. An interesting sidelight to this came up in the Watergate testimony: Charles Colson ordered E. Howard Hunt to doctor up the State Department cables pertaining to the Diem murders in order to make it appear that President John Kennedy had ordered that act. Look at this from another perspective. Colson, Hunt, and others knew that Kennedy had not ordered those murders. They wanted it to look as though he did. If Kennedy did not order that action, someone of lesser authority did. Was it the Forty Committee? If not the committee, was it the CIA acting alone? Without belaboring this crucial point here, this is what it is all about. Who has this tremendous power? Who uses this great power--with or without presidential consent, let alone without the consent of congress? The record is full of these actions. Eisenhower, Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and Nixon were all caught in this web. When President Salvador Allende's opposition in Chile learned that the United States had withdrawn all support of his government, they knew it was time to move. The Forty Committee did not have to say, "We have decided to kill Allende." All it had to do was to let the right people know that they would not support him, and that they would not censure these people. Allende should have recognized the pattern; not long before he had witnessed the same thing in Bolivia. President Victor Paz Estensoro lost favor with Washington. The CIA tipped off General Rene Barrientos Ortuno that the gates of the city were open. In an almost effortless coup d'etat, Barrientos and his CIA friends flew into La Paz and the country was theirs. Estensoro accepted transport out of Bolivia and flew to exile in Lima, Peru. The committee does not kill anyone, they just welcome in the new regime and fling out the old--dead or alive. What is this Forty Committee, which has this power over the noncommunist world? Who are its members? Do they operate within any law? Whom do they represent and whose interests do they promote? The Forty Committee is the latest of a long line of such committees, all of which live in deepest secrecy. Before it was called the Forty Committee it was the 303 Committee. Before that the Special Group. In the early Fifties it was the Special Group 10/2 and later the Special Group 5412 or 5412/2 [1] Ostensibly this organization has always been made up of a representative of the President (the President's Advisor for National Security Affairs--a euphemism for the CIA's man in the White House); a representative of the Secretary of State and one for the Secretary of Defense. It also includes the Director of the CIA and since Kennedy's time it has included the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. These five men, representing as they do the principals of the National Security Council, have had thrust upon them the responsibility for international clandestine operations. At one time Nelson Rockefeller was the President's National Security Advisor. So were Robert Cutler, McGeorge Bundy, and Maxwell Taylor. The present incumbent is Henry Kissinger, because he did not relinquish that CIA-oriented job when he became Secretary of State. This is no doubt an unauthorized and perhaps illegal use of this position because the law requires that the President have a National Security Advisor. By his very duties this advisor performs functions that are in direct conflict with those of the Secretary of State. The power of this committee is awesome. Like the Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, there is almost nothing in the world that cannot be done secretly by the might and money of the government of the United States. Consider some of the actions of this committee, or at least things that the CIA has done under the guise of having the committee's support. Years ago the CIA had an old-time oil expert named George Prussing who knew the Middle East and its power centers like the back of his sunburned hands. In those days many of the Arab countries were weak and the Russian bear loomed large over the Caucasus. Prussing was directed by the CIA via the Special Group to plant mines in the oil wells of such countries as Saudi Arabia against the day when the Russians might overrun those defenseless oil fields. Did he do it? Are they still there? Are they effective? Who knows? But most of all, who reviews these matters? Who knows about such horrendous things? And if these five men know or knew, then from whom do they, or did they, draw their supreme power? Did Eisenhower know about Prussing's assignment? Did he authorize it? He didn't know about Francis Gary Powers's U-2 flight. In 1958, when the Special Group authorized the CIA to invade Indonesia and to support more than forty thousand scattered rebels against the legitimate government of Sukarno, who really gave them that power? Was it really in the best interest of the U.S. for the CIA to mount such a large operation against a "friendly" country? Either the CIA acted on its own or with the approval of the Special Group mechanism. Richard Nixon, as Vice President, knew all about this. He knew that Allen Dulles's protege, Frank Wisner of the CIA, was in Singapore directing this operation. After its failure Nixon ordered Dulles to fire Wisner. But did Eisenhower know of this? When the CIA was created, soon after World War II, the law (the National Security Act of 1947) stated clearly what its duties were to be. There are five. The first four are clearly above-board intelligence functions. It is the fifth duty that opens the door to clandestine operations: "5) to perform such other functions and duties related to intelligence affecting the national security as the National Security Council may from time to time direct." This is the exact language of the law. This is the law today, and despite countless efforts by the CIA to have us believe otherwise, this is the only law that properly lists the duties of the CIA.[2] It has not been changed and it has not been augmented. The CIA would like to have us believe that it has the right to perform clandestine activities. It does not have this authority in law--unless it is directed by the National Security Council to perform such an activity. Even then the law is most explicit: it adds, "from time to time. . . ." As when the CIA is authorized to perform a clandestine operation, that authority does not carry over to another. The law further limits the CIA by saying "As the National Security Council may . . . direct." In such important matters there is a vast difference between "direct" and "authorize." When the NSC *directs*, that means that the highest authority in the country has originated the idea, approved it and resolved to carry it out. When the NSC believes that the plan must be carried out, and only then, the NSC *directs* that it be done. And the NSC has the authority to direct any agency, not just the CIA. After Allen Dulles had been appointed Director of the CIA by President Eisenhower, he began a deft campaign to water down this prescribed process. Working in conjunction with his brother John Foster Dulles, who was then Secretary of State, Allen Dulles put his proposal in the following terms: because the members of the NSC are the busiest people in Washington, because they have the cares of the world on their shoulders, because the President or the Vice President cannot be at every meeting, it is proposed that representatives be appointed to a sub-committee of the NSC which can meet regularly in place of each member to act upon CIA clandestine matters. This sounded logical from an administrative point of view. But was it legal? Congress and federal law already said how this should be done. Congress knew that the NSC would be busy. They also knew that those top men would be most responsible and ultimately discreet. So Congress did not provide for a subcommittee. But it was done. The CIA had prevailed upon the NSC to publish a series of National Security Council Intelligence Directives (NSCIDs). One of these, NSCID 10/2, came close to giving the CIA what it wanted. In that document the NSC had spelled out that the CIA could get into clandestine work. However (and I used to have one of the original drafts of this directive in my files in the Office of the Secretary of Defense), President Eisenhower had written in his own handwriting on the side margin of NSCID/10/2 a stipulation to the effect that neither the military nor any other branch of the government was to provide the CIA with men, money, materials, or overseas base facilities in such quantity that the agency would have the ability to carry out a series of operations, a large operation, or a long-term operation. Eisenhower knew that if he cut off its men, money, and supplies, the CIA could not get deeply involved. The full meaning of this interpretation cannot be overemphasized. Yet the CIA eventually got around this device. Even the written directives of Presidents are ignored. For years Eisenhower's stipulation slowed Dulles down. But through a procedure found in the complexities of the national war planning process, of which the CIA's a part, he was able to find another loophole and to build up supplies as though they were part of his "Fourth Force" augmentation during wartime. The military fell for this and gave him more war materiel then he could ever use, even in peacetime. Then the CIA penetrated the military with cover units. At one time more than one thousand military units of varying strengths belonged to the CIA. Even though they were not large, they permitted men and materiel to flow anywhere--and at no cost to the CIA. Then Allen Dulles got the Special Group established and it became the platform for the development of a capability for clandestine operations. With meticulous care Dulles saw to it that the men designated as representatives of the White House and of the State and Defense Departments were men with strong connections with the CIA. At one time General Edward G. Lansdale attended meetings for the Secretary of Defense. Lansdale had served with the CIA for most of his active "military" career. By 1955, when I began my daily work within this secret framework, the Special Group was regularly approving items brought to it by the CIA. Very rarely, if ever, did the NSC "direct" the CIA to get itself involved in some activity. Rather the CIA, as Dulles has visualized, found itself creating and originating exercises one after the other, with the Special Group rubber- stamping them. In those days, when the CIA made a request of the Department of Defense, we would screen top-secret Special Group logs. If we found that the Defense Department representative had "voted" to approve the "fun and games," we would provide the men, materiel, and overseas resources through an elaborate "cover" process that was global in its capability. On the other hand, when we found that the operation had not been presented to the Special Group, we would notify the Secretary of Defense immediately and await his instructions. Between 1955 and 1959 we had the power to stop CIA requests that had not been approved by the Defense Department. Sometimes the CIA would attempt to get around us and tie one operation to another or otherwise attempt to beat the system. We learned to put knowledgeable experts in the field--pilots, doctors, and so on--who would detect their plans and report them immediately. Once, when I was asked to move a squadron of Marine helicopters from the Laos CIA operational zone to South Vietnam, I found no precedent and no approval. I informed the Secretary of Defense of this item and he did not approve the project. At that time it would have been the first such move of major "hardware" into South Vietnam. The CIA battled this decision for weeks and finally prevailed, as they usually did, by using the weight of the Special Group and the White House. Since those days the Special Group or Forty Committee has become a power unto itself. The State Department has thousands of career people who are responsible for the Foreign Policy of the United States to the Forty Committee's five men. They approve items that have much greater impact on world events than the State Department. They do this secretly, without proper review, without comprehensive experience and often without anyone but a very few "spooks" knowing about it. Technically the CIA does not have this authority, and legally this is not the way things should be done. The CIA was never given this power by law and should not be permitted to continue this practice. No new laws are needed; the present law should be followed precisely and enforced. The CIA is in existence to perform an intelligence function and no more. It would not take much to conclude that the Forty Committee possesses sufficient leverage over international affairs to overthrow Allende. To give money to the opposition party in Italy? To train King Hussein's elite bodyguard? To create and build up the Shah of Iran? To grant soft drink bottling concessions to Marshall Sarit of Thailand in order to make him the most powerful and wealthy man of that CIA-pawn country? To create Willy Brandt in West Germany and then to knock him down when it wished? To overfly Chinese nuclear plants at will? To arm and equip Indian Border Police? To infringe on the air rights of Norway? To bolster the Katangese rebel government of the Congo while the State Department was working with the legal government? To overthrow Paz Estensoro? To spy in Antarctica despite an international treaty prohibiting it? To play dirty "dirty tricks" at several Olympic Games until the Games now have become political battlegrounds? To spy with U-2's on the French and British at the Suez in 1956? To place so many CIA personnel in other branches and agencies of the American government that the CIA is internally powerful in almost every agency? If the Forty Committee did not authorize these things, then is the answer that the CIA did them on its own, illegally? When Gary Powers's U-2 spy plane went down in the Soviet Union in 1960, President Eisenhower did not know about it until after he heard the news from Khrushchev. Rather than admit that a tiny irresponsible cabal had sent the U-2 out, Eisenhower had to say that he knew about it. After the Bay of Pigs, when John Kennedy learned about the CIA's role, he wrote three strong orders intended to control the CIA. But he did not live to complete that task. Lyndon Johnson admitted that the CIA ran a "damned Murder Inc." but confessed that he had been unable to do anything about it. The combination of the Forty Committee and the CIA has outlived any usefulness that it may once have had. It must be abolished and the CIA must be so controlled by Congress and the Executive that it will be removed from the business of clandestine operations altogether. After all, there are other ways to do these things. We'll discuss them at a later date. * * * * * * * * [1] A segment of NSC 5412 follows below. Known as the Special Group 5412/2, this subcommittee of the National Security Council was the descendant of the Special Group 10/2 which, as described above, produced a document NSCID 10/2 that "came close to giving the CIA what it wanted" in terms of being able to conduct clandestine operations. NSC 5412, "National Security Council Directive on Covert Operations," effectively neutralized such oversight functions as were intended to be carried out under the authority of the Operations Coordinating Board (OCB) which was a part of NSC by law. OCB was intended to be a group of senior individuals, who would follow the decisions made by the National Security Council and make sure that the bureaucracy carried them out. ____________________________________________________________________________ The following comes from "The U.S. Government and the Vietnam War, Part I, 1945-1961," prepared for the Committee on Foreign Relations, U.S. Senate, by the Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress, printed by the U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, 1984. Declassified in 1977, NSC 5412 is located at the National Archives, RG 273. Also important to note here is the wording that defined "covert operations." ____________________________________________________________________________ NSC 5412, "National Security Council Directive on Covert Operations," which continued to be the U.S. Government's basic directive on covert activities until the Nixon administration's NSC 40 in 1970, began with this statement of purpose: The National Security Council, taking cognizance of the vicious covert activities of the USSR and Communist China and the governments, parties and groups dominated by them . . . to discredit and defeat the aims and activities of the United States and other powers of the free world, determined, as set forth in NSC directives 10/2 and 10/5 [of the Truman administration], that, in the interests of world peace and U.S. national security, the overt foreign activities of the U.S. Government should be supplemented by covert operations. . . . The NSC has determined that such covert operations shall to the greatest extent practicable, in the light of U.S. and Soviet capabilities and taking into account the risk of war, be designed to a. Create and exploit troublesome problems for International Communism, impair relations between the USSR and Communist China and between them and their satellites, complicate control within the USSR, Communist China and their satellites, and retard the growth of the milltary and economic potential of the Soviet bloc. b. Discredit the prestige and ideology of International Communism, and reduce the streneth of its parties and other elements. c. Counter any threat of a party or individuals directly or indirectly responsive to Communist control to achieve dominant Power in a free worid country. d. Reduce International Communist control over any areas of the world. e. Strengthen the orientation toward the United States of the peoples and nations of the free world, accentuate, wherever possible, the identity of interest between such peoples and nations and the United States as well as favoring, where appropriate, those groups genuinely advocating or believing in the advancement of such mutual interests, and increase the capacity and will of such peoples and nations to resist International Communism. f. In accordance with established policies and to the extent practicable in areas dominated or threatened by International Communism, develop underground resistance and facilitate covert and guerrilla operations and ensure availability of those forces in the event of war, including wherever practicable provisions of a base upon which the military may expand these forces in time of war within active theaters of operations as well as provision for stay-behind assets and escape and evasion facilities. NSC 5412 defined "covert operations" as ". . . all activities conducted pursuant to this directive which are so planned and executed that any U.S. Government responsibility for them is not evident to unauthorized persons and that if uncovered the U.S. Government can plausibly disclaim any responsibility for them. Specifically, such operations shall include any covert activities related to: propaganda, political action; economic warfare; preventive direct action, including sabotage, anti-sabotage, demolition; escape and evasion and evacuation measures; subversion against hostile states or groups including assistance to underground resistance movements, guerrillias and refugee liberation groups; support of indigenous and anti-communist elements in threatened countries of the free world; deceptive plans and operations; and all activities compatible with this directive necessary to accomplish the foregoing. Such operations shall not include: armed conflict by recognized military forces, espionage and counterespionage, nor cover and deception for military operations." To approve and coordinate most covert operations, (some were required to be approved by the President) NSC 5412 established what became known as the 5412 Committee, also given the nonspecific title, the Special Group, to reduce chances of exposure. (In 1964, after the term "Special Group" became known, the Group was called the 303 Committee. In 1970, it was renamed the 40 Committee.) The 5412 Committee and its successors consisted of the Deputy Under Secretary of State, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, the President's Special Assistant for National Security Affairs, and the Director of the CIA, with the latter serving as the Group's "action officer." In 1957, the Chairman of the JCS also became a member. [2] Section 403, paragraph d of the National Security Act of 1947, which defined the powers and duties of the CIA: Section 403. Central Intelligence Agency (d) Powers and Duties For the purpose of coordinating the intelligence activities of the several Government departments and agencies in the interest of national security, it shall be the duty of the Agency, under the direction of the National Security Council-- (1) to advise the National Security Council in matters concerning such intelligence activities of the Government departments and agencies as relate to national security; (2) to make recommendations to the National Security Council for the coordination of such intelligence activities of the departments and agencies of the Government as relate to the national security; (3) to correlate and evaluate intelligence relating to the national security, and provide for the appropriate dissemination of such intelligence within the Government using where appropriate existing agencies and facilities: PROVIDED, That the Agency shall have no police, subpoena, law-enforcement powers, or internal-security functions: PROVIDED FURTHER, That the departments and other agencies of the Government shall continue to collect, evaluate, correlate, and disseminate departmental intelligence: AND PROVIDED FURTHER, That the Director of Central Intelligence shall be responsible for protecting intelligence sources and methods from unauthorized disclosure; (4) to perform, for the benefit of the existing intelligence agencies, such additional services of common concern as the National Security Council determines can be more efficiently accomplished centrally; (5) to perform such other functions and duties related to intelligence affecting the national security as the National Security Council may from time to time direct. -- daveus rattus yer friendly neighborhood ratman KOYAANISQATSI ko.yan.nis.qatsi (from the Hopi Language) n. 1. crazy life. 2. life in turmoil. 3. life out of balance. 4. life disintegrating. 5. a state of life that calls for another way of living. 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