Ä Area: SURV NET GENERAL ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Msg#: 3340 Date: 04-22-93 07:55 From: Paul Macgregor Read: Yes Replied: No To: Karen Brown Mark: Subj: Grab & Go Kits 1/2 ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ @EID:6F18 851F0000 KB=We were talking about grab-and-go survival kits, commercial kinds. KB=PM>would contain only the items you feel are important. Secondly, it will =PM>cost you less, probably a lot less. KB=You bet. If you make your own kit, you can save the money for =otherthings. But some people just don't want to go the kind =of trouble that it takes to figure out what they might need. Hi Karen, I had a list of items that I generally had available in my "emergency kit" or "bug-out kit". It was in the file KBROWN.zip . I think it is still available from Kirk at the Rising Storm if it has gotten lost. Better yet, I'll reproduce it here for you. Basic Bug - Out Kit ______ Carrier Bag - knapsack style large enough for the supplies or be able to carry as a suitcase/gym bag Shelter Water ______ Poncho ______ Water Purifier ______ Poncho Liner ______ Purify Tablets/Clorox ______ Space Blanket HD ______ 2QT Canteen ______ Space Blanket CHP ______ 5QT Canteen ______ Plastic Bags Leaf HD ______ Water Packets ______ Plas Tube Tent OD ______ Drink & Soup Mixes Clothing Heat/Cooking/Light ______ 4pr Socks ______ "Lifeboat" Matches ______ Gloves ______ Butane Lighter ______ Hat ______ Candle Lantern ______ Sweater ______ Extra Candles ______ Windbreaker ______ Canteen Cup GI style ______ Scarves (1 or 2) ______ Canteen Cup Stove ______ Ltwt Towel ______ Stove Fuel Bars ______ Underwear (1 set) ______ Eating/Cooking Utensils ______ Underwear Therm/Silk ______ ______ Boots 1pr ______ ______ Bootlaces 1pr ______ ______ Shoelaces 1pr ______ ______ Coveralls ltwt (jumpsuit style) ______ Utility Communications ______ "Swiss Army" knife ______ AM-FM-SW Radio ______ Sheath Knife ______ Batteries spare ______ Knife Sharp Kit ______ Flashlight ______ "Leatherman" style ______ Bulbs & Batteries extra Multi-tool ______ Pad of Paper ______ Parachute Cord ______ Pen & Pencil ______ Nylon Rope ______ Caylume Light Sticks ______ Mending Tape ______ Light Stick Case ______ German E-Shovel ______ Mirror ______ Gill Net ______ Whistle ______ Hammock ______ Flares (aerial) ______ Sewing Kit (below) ______ Cash (roll slvr quarters) ______ ______ Trade Goods Directions Hygiene ______ Maps ______ Ditty Bag (below) ______ Compass ______ Soap ______ Map Aides ______ Toilet Paper ______ First Aid Manual ______ Collapsible Wash Basin ______ Surv Skill Manual ______ Smll Collapsible Bucket ______ Bible ______ ______ ______ Page 2 Food ______ 3 to 7 MRE Meals ______ Small can cashews or other nuts ______ Other personal preference food items INTERNAL KITS Sewing Kit First Aid Kit ______ Needles variety ______ Triangular Bandage ______ Thread ______ Band-Aids Asstd ______ Extra Buttons ______ Towelettes (pre-moist) ______ Smll Scissors ______ Gauze Pads ______ Sewing Awl ______ Sting-Ez (meat tenderizer) ______ Nylon Thread ______ Tweezers ______ Safety Pins ______ Magnifying Glass ______ Ripstop Tape ______ Safety Pins ______ ______ Aspirin (Tylenol/Advil) ______ ______ Waterproof Matches ______ ______ Pepto-Bismol (diarrhea) ______ Soap ______ Insect repellant ______ Toilet Paper ______ Prescription Medicines ______ "Second Skin" Ditty Bag ______ Calcium Tabs (sm btl) ______ Carrier/bag ______ Vit B Complex Tabs ______ Toothbrush ______ Iodine/Kelp Tabs ______ Toothpaste ______ Potassium Tabs ______ Dental Floss ______ Thermometer (std/case) ______ Razor & Blades ______ Ace Bandages ______ H2O2 ______ Hot/Cold Packs ______ Soap (multi-use) ______ Tape (medical) {anti-bacterial} ______ Scalpel & Blades ______ Sm Towel ______ Suture Kit (military) ______ Washcloth ______ Moleskin ______ Toilet Paper ______ ______ Sunglasses ______ ______ Spare Prescription Glasses ______ Bandana (1 or 2) This list is by no means "complete" or "gospel". In each person's mind there are certain items that they would "need" to have to "get by". Add or Subtract as your heart desires. This kit is intended to supply the very basic of needs for one person while traveling to a retreat location for about 4 to 7 days. This kit does not include means of defense purely because that is a personal choice/preference item. What may be good for one, may not be a wise choice for another. Use the grey matter the good Lord put between your ears to correct the list to suit your needs. Suggested trade goods might include candles, whetstones, mini bottles of alcoholic beverages, toilet paper, or bar soap. May the road rise to meet you. >>> Continued to next message * OLX 2.2 * An old fox, even near death, would still like an old hen. -!- WM v2.09/92-0010 ! Origin: The Rising Storm - Sunnyvale, Ca. 408-739-8693 (9:1992/220) Ä Area: SURV NET GENERAL ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Msg#: 3341 Date: 04-22-93 07:55 From: Paul Macgregor Read: Yes Replied: No To: Karen Brown Mark: Subj: Grab & Go Kits 2/2 ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ @EID:291F 851F0000 >>> Continued from previous message ===== +++++ ***** +++++ ===== Let's start at the top with the carrier bag. I use an oversized gym bag. It is small enough that if I could get all the metal through the metal detectors at work, I would be able to stuff it under a plane seat as carry-on luggage. It has pockets all over the outside so I can "divide" the various groupings into a smaller search area. This is so that when an item is needed I can go to an area of the bag quickly and find it. One of the most important items during an emergency situation is water. Pat and I both have Katadyn water filters. They are a bit expensive, but from my experiences they are very good at what they do. IMHO they are the best filter. If you use the military style purification tablets, these tablets have a tendency to leave a bad taste to the water. I suggest having some pre-sweetened Kool-Aid or some instant soup or drink mixes to cover this awful taste. Again, this is my opinion, others may or may not have this problem. Be sure to have some means of carrying a quantity of water once it has been located and made consumable. I haven't been able to decide whether shelter or food is next most important. I really don't believe a debate on this subject is worth the time and space right now. So o o o o o .. .. .. .... as cooking/food is alphabetically ahead of shelter, I'll start there. Some of the good camping goods stores or by mail-order have available what are called "lifeboat" matches. These matches burn long, and hot. I also suggest a "Bic" style butane lighter. These can be used to start wet tinder or wet fuel bars. Candles are always a good item to include, because of their many uses. Pat and I have gone with stainless steel cooking pans because we do not like the idea of the aluminum that leaches off the cheap items. The GI style canteen cup and canteen cup stove will nest with a GI one-quart canteen providing water storage, cooking utensils, and stove in a small compact unit. As for shelter, at the local surplus store, we were able to locate some of the military heavy-duty space blankets. I think they were called casualty blankets or something along that line. They are reinforced and will hold up against just about everything except maybe a hurricane or tornado :-) I carry a couple of the thin cheap ones to use as weather covers for items/goods (my bug-out kit). As of yet, I haven't been able to locate one of the heavy duty plastic tube style tents in an olive drab (green). I think most folks want to be found so they use a bright orange tent. If you're trying to evade and escape, you won't want the bright colors. I carry a poncho and liner. It can be used for several styles of shelters (use your imagination) or as a sleeping bag. The poncho liner makes a good blanket in a pinch. Clothing might also be an important item to consider. When I was living in Scotland, I was able to weather most day-to-day weather by using a light sweater (wool) and a windbreaker. This combination was light weight and comfortable. Most folks will be at work or "in town" wearing dress or work shoes (tenny-runners), when they find themselves in need of leaving the area quickly. A spare pair of boots (pre-broken in) in the bug-out kit will be a God send if rough terrain must be covered to get that person to the meet point. Yes, they can be bulky. A pair of the canvas Veitnam style boots in black will not be obvious and will provide ample protection to get you to a rendezvous. If a portion of your travel must be through a town, one of the lightweight coveralls that the wiser (elderly) folks wear would help cover the fact that you were "traveling". Dirt seems to jump on you when you are using evasion techniques. One of the coveralls could be kept in the bag dry and clean for those periods when you would like to remain inconspicuous while taking time to make purchases or such in a small town. Be sure to include some type of utility kit. No matter how well you plan, something will almost always need to be mended or repaired. The reason that I mention the German military entrenching shovel is that not only is it small, but it is solidly built. One edge can be sharpened and used as an axe. The blade is square and holds up to some serious abuse. The US model (tri-fold, or the older folding model) either will not hold up to the abuse, or are too large for a small kit. I couldn't stand the new tri- fold model and opted for one of the older folding jobs. It was a real pain to carry around. Granted you won't be digging out a basement for an underground house with one of these, but they can be used for quicky latrines, fire pits, holes for burying trash, or to build a cache for your kit while you go into town for needed items (food, news, maps, local information, etc...). Don't forget any prescription medicines that you take on a daily basis. Try to build up a stockpile of your everyday prescription items by getting refills a little early (before the old bottle is completely empty). A good supply can be obtained in this manner. Or if the doctor will order a several month supply, and the pharmacist will go ahead and fill it, then be sure to keep it dry and cool. My doctor regularly gives me a three month prescription for medicine, and the pharmacist fills the order in the first sitting. Then, the medicines are stored in a dark, dry, cool location. Most of the other items are self explanitory. Just remember to use your common sense. Some items are on the list as options, so you don't need duplicates. And be sure to provide spare batteries and bulbs for flashlights and radios. And most importantly, make sure to have a minimum of a three day supply of food. For the bug-out kit I prefer the MREs. They are tasty if warmed up, but can be eaten cold. And, they are packaged to withstand a direct hit by a nuclear bomb :-). Really, the packaging is good. It will stand up to being bumped around in a bug-out kit without splitting open and spreading food all over the inside of your kit. Ok, John, you wanted to talk about some of this stuff. Let's talk. :-) The WEE Scot Paul * TLX v1.1 * Fathers are important people too! * OLX 2.2 * An old fox, even near death, would still like an old hen. -!- WM v2.09/92-0010 ! Origin: The Rising Storm - Sunnyvale, Ca. 408-739-8693 (9:1992/220)