TELECOM Digest     Wed, 11 May 94 13:19:00 CDT    Volume 14 : Issue 210

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Digital Links Over Analog Carriers? (Taavi Talvik)
    What Network Equipment is Needed to Set up Access Point? (Chuck Campbell)
    Wanted: Used Octel Voice Mail Systems (Eric A. Litman)
    Speech Recognition: "Word Spotting" - Help! (Peter B. Flower)
    Anybody Know Communitronics? (Rich Osman)
    'Wireless Cable' Over a Cellular Network? (Barry Raveendran Greene)
    Telecommunication Events (Jose Luis Sanchez)
    Bell Canada Alex Videotex Service Officially Closing (Dave Leibold)
    What is a T-10 Carrier? (Mitch Barrett)
    New Call Centre (Jeff Robertson)
    Press Releases via Fax-on-Demand (Nigel Allen)
    Phone Directory Technology (Stewart Fist)
    Junk Mail From US Sprint (Dave Levenson)
    In-Building Cabling For Different Operators (Warren Kwok)
    Need Modem CID Strings (Maurice Dykes)
    Correct Contact Information For CallerID-> Serial (John Landwehr)
    Help Needed With B-ISDN (Padmakar Jogdankar)
    Contact Representatives NOW to Help Sink Clipper (Monty Solomon)
    HOTT: Issue 940425, Part 1 of 3 on comp.ai (David Scott Lewis)
    Need Information on Complete PC (Al Cohan)
    Need Help: Telecom Interface (Dr. Gerry Higgins)
    Sprint "Combined Billing" Error (Mike Pollock)

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From: Taavi Talvik <taavi@vs.ee>
Subject: Digital Links Over Analog Carriers?
Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 20:01:26 EET


Does anybody remember from old times some equipment capable for
transmission of 64kbps or higher G.703 data rates over analog
carriers.

In Estonia we have a situation that there are plenty of analog group
channels available but no country-wide digital links.

Any hints or references to such equipment are welcome.


taavi talvik    taavi@vs.ee 
tel. +372 6 39 9000   fax. +372 6 39 9001

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From: campbell@uuneo.NeoSoft.COM (Chuck Campbell)
Subject: What Network Equipment is Needed to Set up Access Point
Date: 11 May 1994 00:26:30 GMT
Organization: ACCEL Services, Inc.  ph:(713)993-0671, fax:(713)960-1157
Reply-To: campbell@neosoft.com


I am looking for information on the hardware necessary to set up a
network access point.  I would like to make some resources available
to my clients via the Internet (anon ftp, telnet, s/w services).  I
would like to have about five incoming lines fo dial up as well (slip,
ppp, etc).

I am hoping for a FAQ or a list of all the FAQ's I need to start with.
Any suggestions would be helpful, especially on the following: modems,
phone service, gateways, bridges, whatever it will take, and some
information about pros and cons of various approaches.

I'll be happy with text recommendations as well.

Please respond by email and I'll summarize.  


Thanks,

ACCEL Services, Inc.            | Specialists in Gravity, Magnetics
1980 Post Oak Blvd., Suite 2050 |   and Integrated Interpretation
Houston, TX, 77056              |
                                |  1(713)993-0671 voice
Chuck Campbell                  |  1(713)960-1157 fax
President & Chief Geoscientist  | email campbell@neosoft.com

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From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman)
Subject: Wanted: Used Octel Voice Mail Systems
Date: 10 May 1994 21:43:50 -0500
Organization: Proxima, Inc.


I am in immediate need of used Octel systems, both Branch and Aspen.
Please contact me if you have a system you would like to sell or know
someplace where one can be purchased.

Thanks in advance.


Eric Litman         Proxima, Inc.    vox: (703) 506.1661
Director, ProxNet   McLean, VA      elitman+@proxima.com

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From: pbflower@uts.EDU.AU (-s89432566-p.bflower-ele-500-)
Subject: Speech Recognition: "Word Spotting" - Help!
Date: 11 May 1994 06:00:44 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney


I'm presently doing some studies on speech recognition. I'm looking at
developing the HMM so that I can do "word spotting". However I don't
know enough about word spotting. If anyone has any information I would
gladly accept it. 

Thanking you in advance,


Peter

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Date: Wed, 11 May 94 8:40:39 CDT
From: ROsman@swri.edu
Subject: Anybody Know Communitronics?


I'm looking for a company called Communitronics.  They made a WWV
receiver that I own a copy of (Model 6010).  Their last known location
was Hauppauge, NY, but mail to that address comes back.  I'm trying to
get in touch with then to get the service manual (mine is broken).


Rich Osman, WB0HUQ   (210) 699-1302 (h:v/fax/msg) 
Oz@SwRI.edu          (210) 522-5050 (w)

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From: greenebr@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Barry Raveendran Greene)
Subject: 'Wireless Cable' Over a Cellular Network?  Any Information?
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 09:52:09 -0500
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Reply-To: greenebr@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Barry Raveendran Greene)


Hello All,

I'm trying to track down some information on a new venture between
Bell Alantic and Cellular Vision.  It is a trial service that provides
'wireless cable' services over a cellular network.

If you know anything or have a pointers to a Internet site that has
more information on this trail or the technology, please E-mail
directly to my E- mail account.


Thanks,

Barry Raveendran Greene        Internet: greenebr@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
Network Engineer               (301) 953-6064
                               (301) 953-5727 FAX
Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Lab

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From: josel@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
Subject: Telecommunication Events
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 16:08:18 GMT


Hello,

I am looking for special events (one or two weeks) related to:

   - Managament, marketing, strategic planning,
     public-policy analysis, privatization, and consulting in
     Telecommunications.

People background selected for these events are managers in certain
telecommunication areas without technical background. Please, let me
know about institutions, universities, etc., which offers such events.
The dates required for these events are due August and September 1994.

I want to thank you, beforehand, for your prompt response.


Jose Luis Sanchez    josel@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
Electrical and Computer Eng.   Oklahoma State University 

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From: Dave.Leibold@f730.n250.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Leibold)
Date: 10 May 94 21:54:54 -0500
Subject: Bell Canada Alex Videotex Service Officially Closing
Organization: FidoNet Nameserver/Gateway


Bell Canada received official approval to discontinue the
controversial Alex videotex service.

 From a check of the list of new and deleted services on Alex itself,
it appears no new services have been added since 1991, and services
were being deleted, at least as of last fall. It seemed the home
shopping and commerce offerings were few, and the chat/dating lines
plenty (the latter being done with less cost and more finesse on the
regional BBS scene).  The most useful service left on Alex (IMO) is
the electronic white pages, complete with an automated long distance
call rate calculator.

The following eulogy just arrived in the mail:

[Bell Canada letter to Alex service customers follows ...]

T.E. Graham
T/Director - Business Planning,
Bell Advanced Communications
160 Elgin Street, Floor 12,
Ottawa, Ontario
K1G 3J4

April 29, 1994

Dear Customer,

Some five years ago, Bell Canada launched an innovative service that,
after its initial trial run, logged more than a million calls from
interested people like you. We then decided to go ahead and introduce
this exciting, new concept to enable customers to access home-based
interactive and transactional services. Though it was risky, we heard
your call and answered it. The ALEX service was born.

Our early success in Montreal eventually led us to expand into the
Toronto Market and become a leader in the Canadian videotex industry.
Although our role was primarily one of a carrier providing technical
support, we helped our Service Providers develop applications -- from
home shopping and personal banking to financial news and learning
programs -- in order to keep you on the leading edge of the
information explosion.

However, while the ALEX service continued to grow and attract
interest, the inconsistent rate of development of the videotex
industry coupled with Canada's declining economic fortune has made
the service difficult to justify. We are faced with having to
drastically cut our costs, yet have resisted laying off employees or
raising customer prices. So we have been forced to make a painful
decision and terminate the ALEX service.

This is a difficult decision, and one that must be weighed against
the reality of today's tough economic climate. Quite simply, the ALEX
network is not the right vehicle, nor the appropriate technology, at
this time to deliver the information goods needed in our fast-paced
society.

We filed on December 30th, 1993 for the de-tariffing of the ALEX
service with the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications
Commission (CRTC), the federal telecommunications regulator. On April
18th we received their approval, and will discontinue the ALEX
service effective June 3rd, 1994. The ALEXtel terminal will also be
withdrawn from the marketplace and cease to be supported.

Bell has always tried to meet the needs of its business and residential 
customers by offering the best and latest in communications technology.
We will keep trying to bring you innovative telecommunications products 
and services that best fit your needs. As the pace of technology quickens 
and opportunities begin to unfold, we will be there again ... listening. 
We will also be ready to serve you, knowing full well that such advances 
must be balanced by your wishes.

Thank you for doing business with Bell. If you have any questions
about this matter, please call 1 (800) 267-8480.

Sincerely,


T.E. Graham

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From: mbarrett@ida.org (Mitch Barrett)
Subject: What is a T-10 Carrier?
Date: 9 May 1994 19:12:25 GMT
Organization: Defense Technical Information Center (DTIC), Alexandria, VA


I am evaluating a government contract for my company, part of which is
a telecommunications study. According to the statement of work we are
to evaluate among other things T-1, T-10, ISDN ...  I can't find any
reference to a T-10 anything. Does anyone out there know what this
might be and where I can get documentation on it?


Thanks,

M. Mitch Barrett
CTA INCORPORATED
5670 Greenwood Plaza Bvd., Ste 200
Englewood, CO 80111
E-mail: mbarrett@ctaeng.com

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Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 20:30:42 EDT
From: DIMBIT@delphi.com
Subject: New Call Centre


Well I am hoping some of the telecom genius' can help me.  Our company
is looking at setting up a call centre in the United States.  This
centre will handle travel insurance, home insurance (eg: plumbing goes
at 3am we find you a plumber), other call centre functions.  We have
been doing this for the last ten years in Australia, Canada, and Europe
(the company has; I have been doing it for a year and a half!).

The call centre will have between 50-70 agents.  We have to choose
from the following cities to locate the centre:

1. Austin Texas                    2. Sacramento, C.A.
3. Salt Lake City, Utah            4. Pheonix, Arizona
5. Charlotte, N.C.

I know very little about the U.S.  But looks like I will have to move to one
of the above (not the nicest but the cheapest for the business!).

For argument sake lets say we choose AT&T.  We expect our call
distribution to be 50% from the East Coast, 25% from the West Coast
and 25% from the rest of the States.  In our business we have to
compare inbound 800 costs as well as outgoing.  Typically one inbound
call requires three outbound calls to the originating city.

I have lots of information on the different cities, courtesy of U.S.
Economic Development and Trade.  I don't have much information on rates,
which in our business is the most important.

Any insight or comparisons would be terrific.  If anyone responding
lives in the above cities I would really appreciate any tips (if we
pick your city I will take you out for an imported Canadian beer!).
Rates would also be great!

Please respond via E-Mail to:


dimbit@delphi.com   Jeff Robertson, President, CTI Inc. Canada
                    (416) 483-1270        (416)516-2210 Fax

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Subject: Press Releases via Fax-on-Demand
From: nigel.allen@canrem.com (Nigel Allen)
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 03:40:00 -0400
Organization: CRS Online  (Toronto, Ontario)


One good application for fax-on-demand services is the distribution of
press releases to people other than journalists, typically investors
who want current information about a company they're interested in.
Some electronic press release distribution services make their press
releases available through fax-on-demand.

Press release distribution services such as PR Newswire use much the
same technology as news agencies such as The Associated Press
(computer networks today, but dedicated teletype circuits 20 years
ago), but their business is the distribution of unedited press
releases paid for by the companies issuing the press releases, rather
than news paid for by the news media.

(At one time, PR Newswire was owned by Western Union. I'm not sure who
owns the company now.)

While you can search the PR Newswire database for a fee through some
online services (I'm not sure which ones), you can also have a list of
currently-available press releases sent to your fax machine by calling
800-578-7888 and entering your fax machine's number using your
telephone keypad. Once you have received the list, you can order up to
three press releases at a time. There is no charge for this service,
and it appears to be available anywhere in Canada and the United
States.

Similarly, Canada Newswire offers a fax-on-demand service for Canadian
corporate press releases. Call 1-800-269-NEWS to request a menu of
available stories.

A third press release distribution service, U.S. Newswire, makes its
press releases available through a BBS in Maryland, PR On-Line at
(410) 363-0834. U.S. Newswire's clients include a lot of Washington-
based lobby groups and government agencies, while PR Newswire's
clients appear to be predominantly corporate.

There is a peripheral family connection here. My late grandfather,
Ralph Marven, was vice-president of a now-defunct public relations
company in Montreal, Editorial Associates. I think that when Canada
Newswire was originally established, it was a subsidiary of Editorial
Associates.


Nigel Allen, Toronto, Ontario, Canada  nigel.allen@canrem.com

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Date: 11 May 94 05:48:42 EDT
From: Stewart Fist <100033.2145@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Phone Directory Technology


I am looking for a wide range of information about software and
hardware used in the preparation of telephone directories or contacts
who I can talk to who might know this stuff.  Apparently there are a
couple of companies around the world who specialise in this area.  I'd
like to contact them, and beforehand I'd need to get some background.

I'm also interested in the financial side of running directory
services; the yellow page directories seem to be highly profitable.

I'd also like to get some general history of the development of the
Yellow Pages, and the role played by Edward H O'Brien and the famous
"Fingers do the walking" slogan and logo.  Does anyone know anything
about this.

It's a pretty narrow area of interest, so it may be best to contact me
direct, rather than bore the rest of the TELECOM Digest readers.  I'm
a technical journalist trying to put together a general overview,
using some Australian material.  But I need to know more about the
world scene, and the world experience.

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From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson)
Subject: Junk Mail From US Sprint
Organization: Westmark, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 16:12:30 GMT


The only thing worse than junk mail, IMHO, is junk mail delivered with
postage due!  Did anybody else receive a recent direct mail advertisement 
package from US Sprint with insufficient postage?


Dave Levenson  Internet: dave@westmark.com
Westmark, Inc.  UUCP: {uunet | rutgers | att}!westmark!dave
Stirling, NJ, USA Voice: 908 647 0900  Fax: 908 647 6857

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From: Warren.Kwok@f488.n700.z6.ftn.air.org (Warren Kwok)
Subject: In-Building Cabling For Different Operators
Date: 11 May 1994 02:29:14 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway


Hello, all telecom people in the Net,

       This is the first time I post a message on Usenet through my
Fidonet BBS.

       I am writing to seek kind assistance from people on Internet in
soliciting some relevant information about telephone line arrangements
in a commercial building from different local network operators.

       Up to the present moment, telephone service is still a monopoly
in Hong Kong. All telephone cables from an exchange to a government
building connecting to customer premises equipment is the property of
Hongkong Telecom whereas sometimes the Government owns the wiring
behind the customer premises equipment (e.g. keyline telephone systems
and PABX systems).  The present arrangement is that Hongkong Telecom
provides lead-in cables terminated at an interconnection point which
is usually a distribution frame for routing to our private switching
equipment, in most cases, PABX system.

       Hong Kong will have three more telephone operators after June
1995.  As I am working on a government PABX project, I need to devise
a set of guidelines on how line facilities of the three new operators
can be interconnected with Government owned customer premises
equipment.  The aim is to formulate a cabling plan arranged in a way
to foster competition and at the same time to make sure that line
provisioning is manageable on a non-discriminatory basis.

     I will be keen to learn the expereince of other network
operators, governmment administrations regarding in-building cabling
arrangements for different fixed telephone networks in a building.

     Any comments, information on the subject are welcome. 


also at whkwok@hk.net
Maximus 2.00   Origin: HKIE BBS (6:700/488)

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From: mhdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Maurice Dykes)
Subject: Need Modem CID Strings
Organization: Thinkage Ltd. Guest Account
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 02:43:57 GMT


I'm in the process of writing a set of Caller ID utilities running
under Windows. At first I based the software on a proprietary CID
device made by Vive Synergies but now I would like to take advantage
of several modems on the market that provide CID data.

One problem is that some devices output data in different formats with
start/end characters and different date formats, messages etc. I would
really appreciate some help in acquiring sample strings delivered by
the various modems. By this I mean the actual string data a terminal
program would see and not formatted output. This way I can parse the
data from several popular devices properly.

Thanks in advance for any help forthcoming.


mhdykes@Thinkage.On.Ca    Maurice Dykes
mhdykes@thinkage.on.ca    mhdykes@thinkage.com  !thinkage!mhdykes

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From: John_Landwehr@NeXT.COM (John Landwehr)
Date: Wed, 11 May 94 09:38:34 -0500
Subject: Correct Contact Information For CallerID-> Serial


The correct contact info for the callerID box to serial is:

Rochelle Communications Inc. 

8906 Wall Street Suite 205
Austin, TX 78754
512-339-8188

They have a single line box with a DB25 connector for $100 (qty 1).
They also have multiple line boxes available, too.

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Date: Wed, 11 May 94 16:06:37 GMT
From: padmakar@cdotp.ernet.in (PADMAKAR)
Subject: Help Needed With B-ISDN


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This is something I received in the
mail a few days ago if anyone would care to respond direct to the
writer. Thanks.   PAT]

Dear Sir,

 I am working in CDOT New-Delhi organisation.
   My group is SYSTEMS & NETWORKS.
       I am interested in Telecommunication.
     So please sir,send me inforamation about B-ISDN .
 My EMAIL address is as below
       padmakar@cdotp.ernet.in
     So I am waiting for above info.
       Thanking you.
  Date : 4 th May 1994
                                         Yours faithfully
                                         PADMAKAR JOGDANKAR

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Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 10:09:05 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: Contact Representatives NOW to Help Sink Clipper


Passed along FYI to the Digest:

Begin forwarded message:

  Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 13:43:25 -0400 (EDT)
  From: Stanton McCandlish <mech@eff.org>
  Subject: Contact Representatives NOW to help sink Clipper

At the House hearings on Clipper and Digital Telephony, May 3, 1994,
Chairman Rep. Valentine (D-NC), Rep. Morella (R-MD), and Rep.
Rohrbacher (R-CA) indicated "reservations" about Clipper.  Please
contact these Representantives and encourage them.

However, Rep. Dan Glickman (D-KS) indicated "cautious support" for
Clipper, and espoused a 'more surveillance for law enforcement'
viewpoint.  It is essential that opinons like these be turned.
Contact this Congressman by any means possible, especially if you are
a direct constituent of Glickman.  Show your disapproval of Clipper,
politely but firmly.  Congressfolk live on votes, and are not as hard
to sway as you might think.  There is little support in the Senate for
Clipper.  Let's make it unanimous by turning what little tide there is
in the House.

Don't just talk, ACT NOW.


Stanton McCandlish * mech@eff.org * Electronic Frontier Found. OnlineActivist

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From: callewis@netcom.com (David Scott Lewis)
Subject: HOTT: Issue 940425, Part 1 of 3 on comp.ai
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 12:33:17 GMT


The full-text of the HOTT electronic magazine on VR, neural nets,
PDAs, agent software, PCS, interactive media, nanotechnology, MPP, and
other emergent telecomputing technologies is now (or will soon be)
available on the comp.ai Usenet group.


David Scott Lewis        
Editor-in-Chief and Book & Video Review Editor
IEEE Engineering Management Review 
(the world's largest circulation "high tech" management journal)
Internet address: d.s.lewis@ieee.org      Tel: +1 714 662 7037
USPS mailing address: POB 18438 / IRVINE CA 92713-8438  USA 

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Date: Wed, 11 May 94 13:01 EST
From: Al Cohan <0004526627@mcimail.com>
Subject: Need Information on Complete PC


I friend of mine is sending me a couple of voice cards manufactured by
the Complete PC. Can anyone supply info on how to reach this company?


Thanks in advance, 

Al Cohan

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From: telemed@aol.com (Telemed)
Subject: Need Help: Telecom Interface
Date: 10 May 1994 17:37:05 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)


I have designed a multimedia E-mail software package. Does it make sense
to add either:

A. An Internet interface;
B. A point-to-point (modem) interface?

It's for distributed work (telemedicine, etc.)

Thanks in advance for any advice.


Gerry Higgins (Dr.)


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Personally, Doctor, if you have the
wherewithal and ability to add an internet and/or modem interface
I don't see how you could go wrong by doing so. Email and the internet
go almost hand in hand; ditto, a modem interface will make your product
that much more valuable. My advice then is go with it.   PAT]

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From: pheel@panix.com (Mike Pollock)
Subject: Sprint "Combined Billing" Error
Date: 11 May 1994 10:28:08 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC


Sprint recently changed me over from direct billing to "combined
billing" on my NYNEX local telephone bill.  Simple, right?  Wrong.  My
final direct-from-Sprint invoice was contained activity through
4/10/94.  My first combined bill from NYNEX contained Sprint activity
through 4/13/94.  The proximity of these two billing dates meant I got
a _three_day_ billing period for Sprint long distance service on the
NYNEX bill.  Now, I'm also a Sprint Select customer, which means I
have a $6.85/month minimum.  In a normal 30 day billing cycle, I
easily meet that minimum.  However, Sprint was nice enough to bill me
$6.85 for this three day billing cycle because in those three days, I
only made $1.20 worth of calls.  Since this was less than the monthly
minimum, the service charge was assessed.  It took me several minutes
of explaining before the Sprint representative understood what had
happened, and I eventually got a credit, but I'm concerned that other
Sprint/NYNEX customers might run into a similar problem and not catch
it, and Sprint apparently has no desire to have their billing software
check for this type of thing.

Any suggestions?


Mike

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