TELECOM Digest     Fri, 13 Jan 95 01:41:30 CST    Volume 15 : Issue 30

Inside This Issue:                          Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Help ... Ancient Party Lines Must Die! (John Leong)
    COCOTS in Jail (Wm. Randolph U. Franklin)
    Re: New Alert - 911 Access (Scot E. Wilcoxon)
    Re: New Alert - 911 Access (Stephen O. Pace)
    Re: Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary? (John R. Covert)
    Re: Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary? (Wally Ritchie)
    Re: Microwave-Data Problem (Wally Ritchie)
    Re: Where is PicturePhone II Now? (Wally Ritchie)
    Re: 800 Numbers and Caller ID (Jonathan Bradshaw)
    Re: Inter-LATA Rates in California (Steven H. Lichter)
    Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly 
(Jan
Mandel)
    Re: Cellular NAM and ESN (John R. Covert)
    Re: Multiple ESN's per NAM (John R. Covert)
    Re: Changes in Hong Kong Telephone Numbers (Robert Hall)
    Re: Changes in Hong Kong Telephone Numbers (Jeffrey Bhavnanie)
    Need Recommendation For Long Range Cordless Phone (John Akapo)
    Data Over CB? (Michael Libes)
    Computers and VCR's (Anthony Hologounis)
    Biographies on Line (TELECOM Digest Editor)

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From: John Leong <leong+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Help ... Ancient Party Lines Must Die!
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 17:54:21 -0500
Organization: Comp Svcs Directors, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


If there are any Canadian readers out there, particularly in B.C., I
would really appreciate some help ....

Recently, I bought a little piece of land in Francois Lake (nearest
town: Burns Lake in Northern B.C.  Nice place.  Contemplating of may
be spending some times out there.  When I inquired about hooking up
telephone service, it was suggested that I should look at putting in 3
lines - one for phone, one for fax and one for other services.

Hmmm ...?  "Gee, what about ISDN?"  "Son, this is the land for real
man.  Real man don't believe in those whimpy digital stuff ... and by
the way, you will also be privileged to join a rare group of Canadians
that still enjoy the pleasure of a party line shared with 4 very nice
neighbours ... all with teen age kids that simply love telephones!"
O.K. ... I lied ... they never said any of the above except for the
strange suggestion of three lines.  But the bottom line is that the 
only
service I can get is an ancient shared party.

Most of the people out there, including my brother-in-law, are
loggers.  However, some of these lumberjacks are amazingly well in
touched with the computing world and quite a number of them have
serious home machines.  My brother-in-law has a 486 Toshiba lap top
and he has also recently got himself a P90 desktop too.  Yup, he know
all about PCI bus, high performance graphic accelerators, OS/2, NT ...
and even "Bob".  Learned all that in between cutting down tress and
digging ditched.  They certainly has also heard about the Internetnet
and are real eager to get on it ... but on a party line?

This really raises the issue of universal access for the Internet,
Information Superhighway or what have you ... if there is not even
universal service for decent basic phone services to run your boring
modems.

In the U.S., I would try to beat up on the phone company and also
gripe to the PUC who takes care of consumer interest.  Is there an
equivalent to PUC in Canada (particularly in B.C.) other than the
CRTC?  Any information and suggestions would be most appreciated.


Regards,

John leong
Technical Director,  Computing Services
Carnegie Mellon University


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The way I always heard it back in my CB
radio days was that real men knew how to peak their radios ... and now
they tell me real men (where PC's are concerned) know how to read and
write direct in machine language ... no need for compilers, etc.  :)

I don't know what the law is about this in Canada, but if you were 
here
in the USA you would be in a bit of a bind since our telecom laws 
forbid
hooking *any kind* of peripheral equipment -- even an answering 
machine
or an extension phone *you own* -- to a party line. The thinking is if
your device goes out of order, the other parties may be inconvenienced
by the interuption in service. In fact I think instances of party line
service in the USA, where it still remains, is one of the few 
exceptions
to the rule of telco not owning any customer premises equipment any 
longer.
In the case of party lines, telco still owns the instruments and the 
wiring, and repairs it without charge as needed. This is because telco
could get hassled if one of the other parties goes without service as
a result of your problem. There are not too many instances where telco
kept control of premises equipment; I think party lines are one 
instance
and apartment/office building front door entry service (the kind that
is a sort of hybrid centrex, with the subscriber's common equipment in
the central office, and some of telco's stuff on the customer 
premises)
is the other exception. I know existing front door entry service was
grandfathered. Even though telco can't sell it any longer they have to
maintain the subscribers who have it. I don't think telcos in the USA
can take on new party line customers either; they just have to sit and
wait patiently to get rid of the ones they have had all along.    PAT]

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From: wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm. Randolph U Franklin)
Subject: COCOTS in Jail
Date: 12 Jan 1995 22:52:51 GMT
Organization: ECSE Dept, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY, 
12180 USA
Reply-To: wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm. Randolph U Franklin)


(Continuing to report telecom-related numbers from the newspapers) ...

Some long time ago there was a discussion about how prisoners in jails
were often ripped off by being forced to use COCOTS.  Our local paper
recently had some interesting numbers on this for a local jail.

The COCOTS are run by AT&T.  There are 800 jail cells, and the county
received $180K in commissions last year, or over $200 per cell.
That's just the kickback to the county, not the total profit.  Also,
since this is AT&T, things might be better for the prisoners than if,
say, *nt*gr*t*l had been running the phones, tho maybe not if AT&T had
to bid for this.


Wm. Randolph Franklin,  wrf@ecse.rpi.edu


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Interesting that AT&T has their COCOTS
in jails because as a rule they are not interested in the corrections
industry business where regular long distance is concerned. They were
more than happy to pass off the fraud and the grief to Integratel and
others like it who don't have much to complain about since they get
so much per call (which in turn they blame on high fraud rates they 
are 
stuck with, etc).  PAT]  

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From: sewilco@fieldday.mn.org (Scot E. Wilcoxon)
Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access
Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:08:25 -0600
Organization: FieldDay


In article <telecom15.23.5@eecs.nwu.edu>, Gerald Serviss 
<serviss@tazdevil.
cig.mot.com> wrote:

>> the cell ID as an approximate location of the caller. In metro 
areas

> Let's consider a metro area as the previous poster suggests. In our
> most dense operations that I am familiar with the smallest cell 
radius
> is 500 meters. This gives an area of 785,000 meters-square or about
> .25 miles-square.  If you consider that in a metro area where this
> cell would be located is built up and that the average number of
> floors covering this area is just say four (source ... PFA) you have
> one square mile of area that this caller could be located in. Even 
if

 .25 miles square is about 2 to 4 square blocks (depending on the size
of your city blocks).  That's a better location than "unknown", and it
does not take long for a car to check streets for trouble.  The built
up area is only a problem for finding the caller, and does not 
complicate 
call routing much as most dispatch and patrol areas are not sensitive 
to 
altitude.

> In a suburban setting where there are lots of jurisdictions and cell
> placement and thus coverage is dictated by traffic patterns there 
are
> just as many problems. The use of the strongest signal is no 
guarantee
> of routing the call correctly, especially if you are in a building.

No guarantee is necessary.  In an emergency, "close" is better than
"none".  And neighboring jurisdictions often do have radio links, and
should have telephone links (if a central site is going to direct 911
calls, they'll at least all be connected to the central site, so it's
just too bad if that's not a switching center which can interconnect
the region).

> I think that the FCC exemption is based on good engineering and the
> realization that today we do not have the capability to locate the 
> caller easily, if at all.

Yes, the FCC does properly recognize the engineering problems.  I
recognize the problems in a 911 operator trying to help someone when
all they hear is the sounds of a fight or shooting.  I recognize the
problems in having to ask the State Patrol operator to connect me to
the city police (which they do routinely and quickly) while four large
enforcers for the drug house across the street are getting out of
their car five hundred feet down the sidewalk from me. [ Just then the
squad car responding to my unrelated call came around the corner :-]


Scot E. Wilcoxon  sewilco@fieldday.mn.org +1 612 936 0118

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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 19:54:19 +0600
From: pace@shell.com (Stephen O. Pace)
Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access
Organization: Shell Oil Company


In <telecom15.23.5@eecs.nwu.edu> serviss@tazdevil.cig.mot.com (Gerald
Serviss) writes:

> In theory, 911 access for cell phones is a good idea. The problem is
> reducing that theory to practice.

I was watching the news last night, and apparently Houston just turned
on cellular 911.  At one point, the camera was pointed behind the
operator's screen, and you could see that she received quite a bit of
information about the caller, including cell-phone number, name and
address of phone owner, carrier (GTE or Houston Cellular), general
location (on a detailed map of Houston), and possibly other things (I
didn't record it, otherwise I would have gone back and provided a
little more detail).

I don't know how accurate the location it returns for you is, but I
could probably dig that information out of the {Houston Chronicle} or
my cellular carrier if anyone is interested.

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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 16:07:31 EST
From: John R. Covert <covert@covert.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary?


jbaker@halcyon.com (James Baker) wrote:

> Is there still a technical reason for the two second delay at the
> beginning of a phone call?

> I understand that some old analog switches could be fooled into
> billing the call incorrectly or not at all if certain tones were
> present within the first two seconds of ringing.

No.  There was a deliberate grace period built in to AT&T's toll
billing so that you would have enough time to move the receiver from
your ear to the set to hang up and not be charged if the call answered
during this time.

It had nothing to do with "certain tones" and everything to do with
not allowing modems to quickly transmit data during the grace period
and then disconnect.


/john

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From: writchie@gate.net
Subject: Re: Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary?
Date: 13 Jan 1995 04:37:50 GMT
Reply-To: writchie@gate.net


In <telecom15.28.1@eecs.nwu.edu>, stevef@wrq.com (Steve Forrette) 
writes:

> In article <telecom15.26.5@eecs.nwu.edu>, jbaker@halcyon.com (James
> Baker) says:

>> Is there still a technical reason for the two second delay at the
>> beginning of a phone call?

>> ...  the FCC requirements for auto answer stuff is to wait two 
seconds
after
>> ringing before answering the phone (or at leaset before sending any
>> signals into the phone wires).

> I believe the actual requirement is that there be two seconds of
> silence *after answering*.  The FCC doesn't care when you answer.  
One
> of the reasons for this is requirement is to prevent a device which
> purposely answers the call, exchanges data for 1/2 second or so, 
then
> hangs up right away, which would avoid toll charges in some 
situations.  
> A device could be designed to do this repeatedly to transmit an
> unlimited amount of data (albiet slowly) without charge.  I think 
that
> any modern switch would be immune from this type of fraud.

Silence is NOT a requirement of Part 68. The exchange of user data is
the issue.

Modems are free to transmit immediately upon answering for the purpose
of indicating modes, training adapter equalizers, etc. With modern
modems like V.32 and V.34 this process takes more than the two second
billing protection delay so this is a non-issue.


Wally Ritchie    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida

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From: writchie@gate.net
Subject: Re: Microwave-Data Problem
Date: 13 Jan 1995 05:00:07 GMT
Reply-To: writchie@gate.net


In <telecom15.22.4@eecs.nwu.edu>, Doug H. Kerr <DHKERR@PCAD-
ML.ACTX.EDU> 
writes:

> I'm having a problem here at our college with a remote site which I
> connect via microwave. We have two NEC 2400 connected and also use a
> data channel off the T-1 for our router which connects our lans. I
> have not had any problems with my telephones but the lan has had
> severe problems. Here lies the problem: the data people say it's the
> microwave or T-1. I run a data channel also that is used for a CCIS 
link
> between switches and have no problems with this so I assume it is 
not
> in the micro or T-1. How can you prove the origin of the problem, or
> monitor the system without the high cost test equipment?

You have two ways to fix things. Open Loop and Closed Loop. With Open
loop you try a bunch of things until the problem is fixed. You may not
know why but it gets fixed. (BELL calls this FM for (F*&54king Magic).

In Closed Loop you measure things with test equipment to find out
whats wrong and then you fix it.

Proper closed loop solution is to test the bit-error rate on the T1
link and prove that it is low. You cannot imply that because the
switch uses the data link with success that all is ok. First the data
traffic is likely to be very low on this link and second the error
recovery procedures are very robust so you won't know of the problem
unless you can see the actual error counts on this link. LAN 
protocols, 
particularly IP, assume very low error rates with recovery at the
relatively high level of TCP. Speech is very tolerant of relatively
high bit errors rates so this also proves nothing about the quality of
the link.

Open loop solution is assume that the Microwave is OK on blind faith. 

Most likely you have a timing problem, quite possibly frame slips
between the two PBX's. How is the data channel delivered to the data
users? How is each PBX timed? What other T1 connections to other
Networks are involved?  Reliable transmission requires that both
PBX's derive their timing from the same source. The data equipment
should be clocked from the common timing.


Wally Ritchie   Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 



------------------------------

From: writchie@gate.net
Subject: Re: Where is PicturePhone II Now?
Date: 13 Jan 1995 05:23:10 GMT
Reply-To: writchie@gate.net


In <telecom15.29.18@eecs.nwu.edu>, David Gingold <gingold@mit.edu> 
writes:

> Can anyone tell me what ever happened to the PicturePhone II phones
> manufactured by AT&T in the '70's?  I have heard a rumor that these
> phones might have been given to Ameritech as part of the breakup, 
but
> I have know idea where to start looking.

Remember the warehouse in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" which was supposed
to be where the Government stored useful things for safe keeping. Well
that was actually AT&T's White Elephant Warehouse where they keep 7300
PC's, PicturePhones, and other such things :)

One of the nice things about being a Monopoly with rate of return
regulation is that the more money you waste the higher your rate base
and the more money you make.

AT&T's success was due less to the invention of the telephone as to
the the invention of the Triad of BellLabs, Western Electric, and
Operating Companies. The purpose of BellLabs was to burn money. This
money was reflected in the price of WE equipment sold to Operating
Companies. The greater the cost of the equipment, the greater allowed
return on investment.

AT&T, of course, is now much closer to a real company. Bellcore,
however, serves a function for the RBOC's similar to the old scheme.
Instead of just burning money, however, Bellcore concentrates on
positioning the operating companies for doing things that they are
legally barred from doing today.


Wally Ritchie    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida

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From: Jonathan@IQuest.Net (Jonathan Bradshaw)
Subject: Re: 800 Numbers and Caller ID
Organization: IQuest Network Services
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 01:02:12 GMT


In article <telecom15.18.4@eecs.nwu.edu>, 
glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us 
asks:

> Can someone explain IF, not why, full telephone numbers of people
> calling 800 numbers are shown (either on the bill, or as part of the
> call) to those who OWN the 800 numbers?

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The answer is yes. People who have 
800
> numbers receive the ANI -- not the Caller-ID, 

I get Caller ID NOT ANI through my 800 number depending on the
origination. From Indianapolis, I know I get full Caller ID from South
Bend and Bloomington, IN where I have tested it. This shows up as the
NAME and Number (so its NOT ANI) but if the caller dials me directly,
I see "OUT OF AREA". I don't know how far this extends but it does
seem to be quite extensive in Indiana.

Somehow One Call is picking up and transferring the CID data along
with the call.


Jonathan Bradshaw | Packet mail: N9OXE@N0ARY | Internet: 
Jonathan@IQuest.Net
PGP KEY AVAILABLE | ESD Administrator, Boehringer Mannheim, 
Indianapolis, IN


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think however we can correctly answer 
the original query by stating that yes indeed, the persons who own 800
numbers do get identifying data on all or almost all calls they 
receive.
If there is some reason they want to make an issue out of it, they 
nearly
always can backtrack to the source of the call. I think that is what 
our
original writer was asking about.   PAT]

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From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Subject: Re: Inter-LATA Rates in California
Date: 13 Jan 1995 02:33:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)


(Re rate analomies in California on intrastate/interstate calls).

That could change since the FCC is considering allowing LEC to get
back into the LD business.


Sysop: Apple Elite II -=- an Ogg-Net Hub BBS      
Home of GBBS/LLUCE support
(909) 359-5338 12/24/14.4 V32/V42bis          

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From: jmandel@carbon.cudenver.edu (Jan Mandel)
Subject: Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers 
Randomly
Date: 12 Jan 1995 19:51:13 -0700
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver


Paul Beker (pbeker@netcom.com) wrote:

> wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) writes:

> Yep ... several years ago every single pay phone in that airport was 
a
> *real* Southern Bell phone.  Since then, the politicians and others
> (ever heard of the Atlanta Airport scandals / fiascos?) have gotten
> involved and now you will find a wide variety of worthless COCOTs
> scattered throughout the airport.

Funny thing ... in the slang of numerous East-European languages COCOT
is slang vulgar term for the male sex organ. How fitting.


Jan Mandel, Center for Computational Math, University of Colorado at 
Denver
jmandel@colorado.edu

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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 15:26:18 EST
From: John R. Covert <covert@covert.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Cellular NAM and ESN


Alan Shen <kermee@u.washington.edu> wrote:

> Call your cellular carrier about this. Some will allow you to have 
one
> NAM for two different phones (with different ESN numbers) for an 
extra
> charge usually from about $5-$8 a month.

Absolutely not!  This is a violation of the cellular standard and
forbidden by the FCC.  No carrier may permit it.  It will not work
correctly; if both phones are on at the same time it may interfere
with calls to other subscribers.


/john

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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 15:36:46 EST
From: John R. Covert <covert@covert.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Multiple ESN's per NAM


dsc3cjc@imc220.med.navy.mil (Chris J. Cartwright - ELF) wrote:

> - Two ESN's on one NAM    $17.95/mo + reg. service price;
> - Three ESN's on one NAM   29.95/mo + reg. service price;

I don't believe it.  They must mean multiple MIN's on each NAM.


/john

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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 13:57:22 HKT
From: Mr Robert Hall <robhall@HK.Super.NET>
Subject: Re: Changes in Hong Kong Telephone Numbers


In response to Paul A. Lee's message requesting information about the
numbering change in Hong Kong, here is an extract from a document
published by Hongkong Telecom:

What is '2' Day?

The growth of the telecommuncations services in Hong Kong has led to
an increase in the demand for numbers.  To meet Hong Kong's needs into
the 21st century, the telecommunications regulatory authority, OFTA,
hasannounced a new numbering plan that will make more numbers 
available.

 From January 1, 1995, all seven-digit business and residential phone
and fax numbers will undergo a very simple change: they will be
prefixed with the digit '2' - hence the name '2' Day.

How '2' Day Affects you:

Residential and business seven-digit phone and fax numbers will be
changed by adding a '2' to the existing number.  Apart from this, the
original number will remain unchanged.  Our number, for example, which
is 888-2888 will become 2888 2888.

Pager customers: There are plans to change pager numbers at a later
date.  OFTA has not yet finalised its plans in this area and customers
will be informed of the exact date in advance.

Mobile customers: Mobile numbers will remain unchanged.

Citiwide Citinet numbers that currently begin with 922X XXXX will 
become 
292X XXXX and those dataline numbers beginning with 938X XXXX will 
become 
293X XXXX.

Emergency services and enquiry hoteline numbers such as 999, 1081, 
1083 
and 109 will remain unchanged.

                           -------------

Typist note: there is a three month grace period during which anyone
not adding the '2' prefix will be connected.  After that time, there
will be a recorded message played to the caller.

Also, all Value Added Network (VAN) operators have had their numbers
changed from the traditional seven-digit numbers to eight digit
numbers beginning with 3XXX XXXX.  This applies to numbers such as the
CompuServe access number, my Internet service provider and BBSes.

Let me know if you have any questions.


Rob Hall   Hong Kong

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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 13:06:29 HKT
From: Jeffrey Bhavnanie <jeffbhav@asiaonline.net>
Subject: Re: Changes in Hong Kong Telephone Numbers


 From the 1st of January 1995, All phone numbers in Hong Kong,
Kowloon, New Territories and the outlying areas will be changed from
the current seven digits to eight digits with the number '2' added in
front.  

(eg) Old Number : 555-5555 
     New Number : 2555-5555


->Jeff

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From: akapo@akapo.com (John Akapo)
Subject: Need Recommendation For Long Range Cordless Phone
Date: 12 Jan 1995 15:09:52 -0800
Organization: CCnet Communications (510-988-7140 guest)


I'm looking for a cordless phone with a range of up to two miles or
more.  Could someone please recommend some. I seem to remember that
Uniden used to sell one of these; do they still?


JoHn Akapo    akapo@akapo.com

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From: sharpen@chinook.halcyon.com (Sharpened Software)
Subject: Data Over CB?
Date: 13 Jan 1995 02:58:49 GMT
Organization: Sharpened Software Inc.


Are there any FCC regs concerning the type of information broadcast
over the "Citizen's Band?"  In short, can I send data over CB?


Michael Libes           Sharpened Software Inc
sharpen@halcyon.com     Seattle, WA


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: First off, you may not 'broadcast' over
CB. The Crazy Band is intended, by FCC regulations for *two-way*
personal communications. 'Broadcast' by definition is a one-way
transmission intended specifically in a non-personal way for a large
number of listeners. Is another site going to be responding to you in
kind, with data back to you?

Anyway, I think all this is very academic. Good luck if you want to 
try
it. I presume the place you are broadcasting -- ooops!, communicating
with is not more than 75-100 yards away. More than that and some Good
Buddy will walk all over you. Its bad enough when two persons in 
actual
voice communication have to ask each other to repeat themselves over
and over because some local yokels are running way over the legal 
power
limit. (So then you run extra power in order to get past the 
interference
and he cranks his up a little more, etc.) Here in the Chicago area 
there
are times and places the CB/eleven meter airwaves are solid heterodyne
as the guys try to shove each other off the air. In the Crazy Band, no
matter how loud your radio is; no matter how much power you put out or
how well you are modulated, there is always someone out there whose
radio is louder and has more power. They'll be glad to demonstrate it,
you don't have to take their word for it. Just ask; they'll turn on 
their linear amplifiers and their reverberation units wired in series
with their power microphones and Break rake rake rake rake for a 
Radio Check heck heck heck heck heck heck, and tell two old ladies 
with
little handheld units seventy five miles away to 'back it down out 
there
and give someone else a crack at it ..."  :)  I'd love to see the data
before you send it, and after the other end gets it ... if it gets 
there
at all.  PAT]

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From: holo@PrimeNet.Com (Anthony Hologounis)
Subject: Computers and VCRs
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 20:13:25 MST
Organization: Primenet


Looking for information:

I install media retrieval systems in schools.  There is a centrally
located rack with vcr's and laser disks,the teachers are able to
access these from the phone. Up till now this has been pretty slick.

Well now, what with each classroom having at least one computer which
is part of the campus network I was wondering what equipment is
available to tie my media system into the network.

This way the teacher can access the vcr, laser from his/her pc.  Now
that would be slick.

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From: TELECOM Digest Editor <telecom@eecs.nwu.edu>
Subject: Biographies on Line
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 01:35:00 CST


Don't forget that the Telecom Archives now has a special section for
the biographical data supplied by participating readers. This section
is not open to the general net public, and requires access via the
Telecom Archives Email Information Service and a password which is
provided to each person who supplies information about themselves.

You decide what to say; what you want to tell others about your
work, your plans, your goals and your life. Once you supply the
data and it is installed in the Archives, you get a password and
instructions on how to access the bigoraphies of other participants
here. You can remove it or modify it as desired. 

It is strictly non-commercial and deliberatly restricted to give list
compilers and junk-mailers a hard time, yet allow folks in the
telecom industry to become aqauinted with one another. Send your
biography to 'ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu'. I am installing them as fast
as they come in (already about a dozen on line since this was
announced a couple days ago).

PAT

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