Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 08:11 EET
From: "Aaron J. Grier" <agrier@reed.edu>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:692] Re: Do We Need Another Tracker ?

On Fri, 13 Jan 1995 ST56G@Jetson.UH.EDU wrote:

> i'll tell you what we 'need'.. [or what i would like to see] . . a music-
> editing program [OTHER than a damn tracker] that supports the S3M [or other
> multichannel formats], & uses a piano-roll style interface. the -only-
> program i've come across that was written this way is modedit 3.01.. and i
> think the concept for music-writing is unmatched. I never have and probably
> never will ever get used to the scrolling number shit & the tracker keyboard..
> modedit 3 is decent, but very limiting. .  . it only supports 4 channel mods,
> & doesn't go above the 640k zone in terms of memory. i can only hope that
> one of these days someone will see the light of MIDI & create a good stable
> program w/ piano roll .

Yeah... it's called MIDI.  There's no reason you can't go out any buy 
something like MasterTrax Pro or Cakewalk Pro and use your GUS with it.

And give the "scrolling number shit" a try.  It can't be THAT hard.

----
  The Finn / VLA
  Aaron J. Grier
  agrier@reed.edu (other addresses will be forwarded to this one.)


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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 08:25 EET
From: The Ghost of the Alien that Obi-Wan killed in the Bar on Tattoine <jts6123@email.unc.edu>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:693] K-bugs.s3m

What a brilliant track......It would sound 100 times better with just a 
few vocals.....It seems everyone(except me) has 1mb GUS cards (mine is 
256k still , I just bought it used)......Vocals could push the song size 
up quite a bit, but it would sound great.....remix w/vocals?

P.s.:Does *anyone* have 768k of GUS Dram lying around they wannna sell?

							J


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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 08:11 EET
From: jester (Tobias Reckhard) <jester@rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:691] Re: Epidemic

> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, Andrew Leahy wrote:
> > > Does anyone know how to "extract" particular tracks from the EPIDEMIC.00X
> > > files? 
> > 
> > i'd like to know this information also ...
> 
> There's no special compression, they're just concatenated files, so any
> decent ripper should yank 'em out for you.  Go to /music/programs/rippers,
> or somthing like that in the hornet archives and download s3mrip or powerrip
> or whatever and it'll pull them all out for you, nice and neat.

Well, PowerRip won't be real neat about it. You'll have a couple of VERY BIG
files, but after loading and subsequent saving with ST3, they'll be ok.

cya
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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 09:15 EET
From: "Jens Puchert" <jpuchert@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:694] Re: Epidemic 

In message <m0rTkRB-0015BcC@oliver.sun.ac.za> you write:

>> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, Andrew Leahy wrote:
>> > > Does anyone know how to "extract" particular tracks from the EPIDEMIC.00
>X
>> > > files? 
>> > 
>> > i'd like to know this information also ...
>> 
>> There's no special compression, they're just concatenated files, so any
>> decent ripper should yank 'em out for you.  Go to /music/programs/rippers,
>> or somthing like that in the hornet archives and download s3mrip or powerrip
>> or whatever and it'll pull them all out for you, nice and neat.
>
>Well, PowerRip won't be real neat about it. You'll have a couple of VERY BIG
>files, but after loading and subsequent saving with ST3, they'll be ok.
>
>cya

I wrote a little S3M ripping utility recently that I could post here.  It
handles Epidemic and the early FC demos just fine.  It should actually
extract S3M's reliably from every unpacked file.  It's only 8 KB (probably 
around 4 KB packed), so if that's not a problem for anybody I'll up it 
tomorrow.  If somebody feels I shouldn't post it here (although it's the 
same size as some text contributions), cry out now.

Jensi

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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 09:41 EET
From: The Mighty Spaz Twit <spaz@helix.net>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:695] Re: EGG 2

On Mon, 9 Jan 1995, Satan wrote:

> > Well if you have PC you can put a LINUX partition on it. Everyone knows the
> > only reason you need DOS is to play KLF. So if you're hard up for cash, get
> > Linux for your PC. It is after all, practically free.
> > 
> > 
> > S. 
> > - on Linux PC running full blown Unix. Cost : $20
> 
> Actually, you can get if fully free (except download time if your current 
> service charges you) - check out the sun distro ftp's, the original linux 
> archives are there...

what is the name of the site? i should turn on slip and dl the whole 
thing overnight.. i wouldn't mind trying it out, having heard so much 
about it.
 
is there a faq regarding how to do the multi-boot thingy?

Chris Louth

> 
> Satan Claus
> 
> 


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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 10:00 EET
From: Brian Scott Stucker <bss0220@tam2000.tamu.edu>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:696] Re: EGG 2


> 
> > Well if you have PC you can put a LINUX partition on it. Everyone knows the
> > only reason you need DOS is to play KLF. So if you're hard up for cash, get
> > Linux for your PC. It is after all, practically free.
> > 
> > 
> > S. 
> > - on Linux PC running full blown Unix. Cost : $20
> 
> Actually, you can get if fully free (except download time if your current 
> service charges you) - check out the sun distro ftp's, the original linux 
> archives are there...
> 
> Satan Claus
> 
> 

Try ftp.cdrom.com to get linux.... and there is a mod-player for linux too.





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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 10:01 EET
From: Brian Scott Stucker <bss0220@tam2000.tamu.edu>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:698] Re: Do We Need Another Tracker ?

> 
> >>> >I really think the last thing everyone needs is a new tracker....
> >>> 
> >>> Hehe, and especially not another incompatible quirky format.  We r
> >>> enough of those too.
> >>> 
> >>> Jensi
> 
> i'll tell you what we 'need'.. [or what i would like to see] . . a music-
> editing program [OTHER than a damn tracker] that supports the S3M [or other
> multichannel formats], & uses a piano-roll style interface. the -only-
> program i've come across that was written this way is modedit 3.01.. and i
> think the concept for music-writing is unmatched. I never have and probably
> never will ever get used to the scrolling number shit & the tracker keyboard..
> modedit 3 is decent, but very limiting. .  . it only supports 4 channel mods,
> & doesn't go above the 640k zone in terms of memory. i can only hope that
> one of these days someone will see the light of MIDI & create a good stable
> program w/ piano roll .
> 
> timelord
> 
> 

There was a program called Lyra back around 1984 for the Radio shack Color 
Computer that used a mouse to cut & paste in a GUI interface, but went one
better than piano-roll as far as I'm concerned... it used real musical 
notation and you would put notes on a graphics-based staff and what you ended
up with looked like sheet-music. It was basically a sheet-music type of
word processer and allowed 8 mixed voices on a machine that only had 64K of
Ram and 180K Floppies! I should think that someone could do this again using
the extra memory and power of today's machines... I'd rather see that than 
a piano-roll, personally, but anything woudl be better than the current 
interface, like you said!


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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 10:00 EET
From: Brian Scott Stucker <bss0220@tam2000.tamu.edu>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:697] Re: KOSMIC TRACKER...

I think this was discussed a few months ago, but if someone could refresh my
memory... I'm using fasttracker 2.0 with a SBPro and a 486 with plenty of
memory but the program hangs whenever I try to do anything with it. What is
the solution to this problem, I remember others complaining about this.


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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 11:24 EET
From: demegi50@crazy.fe.up.pt
Subject: [KLF-TALK:700] Fast Tracker 2.00 bugs... 

>I think this was discussed a few months ago, but if someone could refresh my
>memory... I'm using fasttracker 2.0 with a SBPro and a 486 with plenty of
>memory but the program hangs whenever I try to do anything with it. What is
>the solution to this problem, I remember others complaining about this.


I think that bugs with soundblaster are fixed in Fast Tracker 2.03 . Try at 
freedom.wit . There must be a directory called music\incoming\trackers or 
something. Check it out...

Telmo Cruz
<demegi50@crazy.fe.up.pt>


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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 10:55 EET
From: demegi50@crazy.fe.up.pt
Subject: [KLF-TALK:699] CID and Hypnosis... 


Are White Wizard/Asylum and Maral KLF's (or should i say KFMF or KOSMIC ...) 
members?
I really love their songs in EGG2(Hypnosis and Concepts in Dance). If this is
their music style, where can i get more stuff from them?

Telmo Cruz
<demegi50@crazy.fe.up.pt>
Oporto, Portugal


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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 17:42 EET
From: Eric D. Miller <csc4edm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:701] Re: EGG 2

> is there a faq regarding how to do the multi-boot thingy?
> 
>
>
> Chris Louth

Chris-- Linux will let you install bootable disks... So at bootup,
it will ask you to choose one (ie. DOS or Linux).


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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 17:51 EET
From: Dan <dan@bepcp.bowker.com>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:702] Re: CID and Hypnosis... 



On Mon, 16 Jan 1995 demegi50@crazy.fe.up.pt wrote:

> 
> Are White Wizard/Asylum and Maral KLF's (or should i say KFMF or KOSMIC ...) 
> members?

Maral is in Kosmic, but White Wizard isn't. I'll try to hunt up his email 
address and find out where his other music is. Maral had several releases 
in 1994 for KLF which you can find on either of the ftp sites in the 
songs/94 dir

- Dan


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