========================================================================= (C) 1993 by Atari Corporation, GEnie, and the Atari Roundtables. May be reprinted only with this notice intact. The Atari Roundtables on GEnie are *official* information services of Atari Corporation. To sign up for GEnie service, call (with modem) 800-638-8369. Upon connection type HHH (RETURN after that). Wait for the U#= prompt.Type XTX99437,GENIE and press [RETURN]. The system will prompt you for your information. ========================================================================== ************ Topic 12 Sat Feb 20, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan] at 10:36 EST Sub: Cybercube Sunrise M16-1280 The Cyrel Sunrise cards display and work with 24bit of color to produce a max. of 16.7 million color shades, each pixel _IS_ 32 bits wide etc... Discuss the 32bit Cyrel Sunrise graphics cards here. 205 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 1 Sat Feb 20, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan] at 10:42 EST DMC is proud to announce that this excellent addition to the graphic options available for your Atari platform is now shipping We have been using this card in-house for some time now and are really pleased with its performance. Our next customer mailout will contain the appropriate order information etc.. but in the meantime, we are happy to start the ball rolling for our GEnie customers right now. The suggested retail price is US $1,495.00. The next series of messages will clearly outline the incredible features brought to you by this excellent card. Join me in welcoming Ralf Doewich of Cybercube to GEnie and to Cat 16 where he will be helping us support you and answer any of the technical questions that may arise. This guy is good so don't be shy. ;-) Nathan Potechin DMC Publishing ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 2 Sat Feb 20, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan] at 10:55 EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ._____. __ __ .______. .______. ._. / .___. \ \ \ / / | .___. \ | .____! | | | | !_! \ \_/ / | !___! | | !__. | | | | ._. \ / | .__. ./ | .__! | | | !___! | | | | | \ \ | !____. | !____. \._____./ !_! !_! \_\ !______! !______! ._____. ._. ._. .__ ._. .______. ._. ._____. .______. / .____! | | | | | \ | | | .___. \ | | / .____! | .____! | !___. | | | | | . \ | | | !___! | | | | !___. | !__. \.___. \ | | | | | |\ \| | | .__. ./ | | \.___. \ | .__! .____! | | !__! | | | \ ! | | | \ \ | ! .____! | | !____. !_____./ \.____./ !_! \__| !_! \_\ !_! !_____./ !______! .__ __. _. ._. _. .____. .____. .____. | \ / | / | / / / | !___. \ / .__. \ / .__. \ | . \/ . | /_ | / /__. .____. /_ | .__! | | !__! | | | | | | |\ /| | | | / .__. \ !____! | | / .__./ | .__. | | | | | | | \/ | | | | | !__! | | | | !___. | !__! | | !__! | !_! !_! !_! \______/ !_! !_____! \.____./ \.____./ The True Color High Resolution VME Bus Graphics Card for the Atari TT030 and Mega STE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 Features Version: 1.2b Date: 02/93 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 The High-Resolution True-Color Graphics Card for the ATARI TT030 and MEGA STE - Programmable Color Video Timing Generator for all resolutions from 320 x 200 to 3400 horizontal and 2048 vertical. Supports Overscan resolutions. - All SUNRISE cards are equipped with 2MB Video RAM. - Fast Dual-Port Video RAMs increase throughput and effectively minimize bus bandwith losses caused by conventional display update cycles. - Integrated GRAPHICS ACCELLERATOR for faster drawing operations. - No need to exchange or replace crystals or oscillators. More than 70 frequencies ranging form 5 to 120 MHz are software-selectable. - A specially designed VIDEO-GUARD circuit protects all components against accidential damage or destruction. - Automatic configuration. Every card is equipped with non-volatile memory which can completely restore the last used configuration. This unique and batteryless solution features up to one million programming cycles and 10 years data retention (guaranteed). - Every SUNRISE card can be expanded to function as a complete Desktop-Video system. The CyReL VidiMix8 option uses the verstatile expansion port and the alpha channel of the SUNRISE boards thus allowing the generation of realtime Video effects. - SUNRISE cards achieve a high level of integration and reliability employing the latest processing and manufacturing technologies. Every production step is being followed by a number of inspections and quality control procedures. - Supports true device sharing in multi-tasking environments. - Up to four CyReL M16-1280 cards can be installed in a single ATARI VME bus system and support multi-level superimposed images. - User-friendly and easy to follow installation. No need to change settings or switches once the card is installed. Package provides a number of versatile GEM based installation programs. - All SUNRISE boards work with single frequency monitors, VGA monitors or multi-sync monitors ranging from 12" to 37" screens. - All colors can be selected from a palette of 16,777,216 shades. - Supports monochrome, four color, 16 color, 256 color/VGA and 24-bit true color modes without hardware changes, expansions or options. - High ergonomic refresh rates of up to 120 Hz (depending on the attached monitor) increase the quality of the display and avoid eye-strain. Refresh rates of up to 260 Hz are supported. - A very flexible access method supports changes in the hardware without the need to adapt or patch existing M16-1280 software and programs. - PAL and NTSC compatible signals can be generated. - Outputs video signals in either standard formats or professional formats for industrial or TV studio applications. Video output is CCIR and EIA343-A compatible. - Programmable true color GAMMA-CORRECTION. - Interlace or non-interlace modes with internal or external synchronization for GENLOCK modes. - Hardware smooth-scrolling & panning allows virtual screen size management for up to 4096 x 4096 pixels. - A High-speed LAN port with a software selectable transmission speed of 10 Megabit/second or 20 Megabit/second. The provided LAN port allows an easy and efficient way to connect up to 32 CyReL M16-1280 graphic stations per network. - Drivers for 2 & 3 button serial AT mice and Summagraphics Graphic digitizer tablets are included, providing the user with a comfortable operation even in higher resolutions. Both drivers can be dynamically adjusted and feature a build-in screen saver. Buttons/keys can be swapped if desired. - Package includes: 1 CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 High Resolution True Color Graphics Card with 2 MB VRAM 1 User's Reference Manual, Software License, Registration and Warranty Card 2 Disks containing the M16 Software: 1 CyReL RUN-ME-FIRST GEM-based Interactive Installation Program 1 CyReL CM16_VIP Init & Diagnostic Driver 1 CyReL VMECache+ Driver 1 CyReL VDI Driver for 256 Colors Mode Driver 1 CyReL VDI Driver for True Color Mode Driver 1 CyReL M16 Palette Master Utility 1 CyReL M16 VDI Configuration Utility 1 CyReL Serial Mouse Manager Utility 1 CyReL XCHANGE Resolution Changer Utility 1 CyReL VIEW_GIF GIF Viewer Utility 1 CyReL VIEW_PCX PCX Viewer Utility 1 CyReL VIEW_TGA TGA Viewer Utility 1 CyReL VIEW_JPG JPEG Viewer Utility 10+ On-line Help and Documentation Files 80+ predefined Modes & Resolutions 500+ Monitor Specifications -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Specifications subject to change without notice. All brand names and trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Copyright (C)1993 by CYBERCUBE Research Limited -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 3 Sat Feb 20, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan] at 10:59 EST ----------------------------------------------------------------- | A discussion of | | C O M P A T I B I L I T Y | | Expanding your system and | exploring new worlds | | ------------- ---------------------------------------------------- A lot of ATARI users are concerned about the compatibility of their software with our high resolution true color boards. Compatibility is a key issue when attempting to improve the system performance through hardware upgrades. This is especially true for graphic cards. The ability to expand a system greatly depends on the way how the operating system handles I/O operations (like producing an output on the screen), additional hardware and the accompaning software drivers. Fortunately, the ATARI computers feature GEM. GEM consists of several software layers, each providing an increasing freedom and independence from the underlying hardware components. One of these GEM layers is called VDI (Virtual Device Interface). By exchanging the existing ATARI specific VDI portion of the GEM environment, the ATARI system can accommodate a wide range of other display devices. Therefore we have not only tried to develop a unique and powerful graphics expansion board but also a VDI driver that emulates the original, which maintains a high degree of compatibility while extending the capabilities according to the provided hardware features. Considering these facts, all programs can be divided into three groups: a) programs that use the VDI as the only interface to produce ANY output on the screen. b) programs that seem to require one of the original Atari modes to run properly. c) programs that use the VDI AND CUSTOM ROUTINES to update the display. Case 'a' programs show little or no difference when used in conjunction with the CyReL M16-1280 boards. Almost all major software titles can be found in this group. These applications allow the user to take advantage of e.g. higher resolutions (in some cases even higher refresh rates), more colors and sometimes even faster output speeds. Fortunately most of them are designed according to the GEM and ATARI guidelines and therefore can be used instantly without any additional system modifications. Case 'b' programs are a little bit more difficult to deal with. Most of these programs use the information of the Getrez (XBios4) operating system call to find out more about the state of the display. Instead of examining the (correct and available) informations provided by the VDI some programmers seem to prefer the XBios call. This can lead to some surprising results: THE CALL CAN ONLY RETURN A CODE TO DESCRIBE THE GRAPHICS MODE WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING USED BY THE BUILT-IN ATARI VIDEO CIRCUITRY! Original intention: a program wants to find out if the current screen resolution supports all the requirements (e.g. at least 640x400) Effect: Some programs refuse to run even when using a sufficiently high resolution because it might be that the ATARI VIDEO CIRCUITRY is operating in a lower mode, and thus the XBios call returns an unacceptable value. Note that we support a 'two monitor' configuration, consisting of our graphics card connected to one monitor and the simultaneous use of the screen output generated by the Atari connected to a second monitor. WE DO NOT IMPOSE ANY RESTRICTIONS WHATSOEVER regarding the mode in which the Atari must be placed. Our cards even allow 'multi- monitor' setups with up to four CyReL cards per single system + the Atari output. Patch: We provide custom XBIOS driver that can be installed plus an accessory that allows the user to define the return value of the XBios call to eliminate about 90% of the described problems. Nonetheless we would like to urge EVERY developer to adopt the VDI method for any inquiries regarding screen size and/or screen attributes! Further we have to add all programs which take advantage of certain hardware register layouts and ATARI specific hardware features to group 'b'. The use of such features prevents these programs from being used with a graphics card. A number of monochrome-only drawing programs and almost all of the games and entertainment software titles fall into that category. This is not limited to CyReL cards and applies to all system expansions as long as they are not specifically supported by those programs. Group 'c' programs can prove to be the hardest to adapted by the user to run on any graphics card, since some of the screen output may end up at the wrong place and most likely in the wrong format. There is little the user (or we) could do to correct this problem, which means that in almost all cases the developer or author of the program must re-write at least a part of the code. The only way to prevent such problems is to fully support the VDI interface from the very beginning. With the continuous development and introduction of new ATARI systems, it represents the only way to maintain compatibility with new ATARI features and ultimately all third party products. Further it is the only way to guarantee the portability of programs in case the user intends to upgrade to a bigger system. Obviously there will be future developments that cannot be forseen and thus will remain unsupported by today's software titles. But we can at least do our share to improve flexibility and user-friendlyness for years to come. This adaptation of programs is a process that has already begun and benefits all, the user, the developer and the manufacturer of e.g. the graphic boards. The developer can take advantage of new improved screen output, a higher number of on-screen colors, and not to forget new and evolving market niches. The user benefits through improvements in appearance, comfort, features and better ergonomics while the manufacturer can take advantage of increasing market opportunities. We at Cybercube welcome the introduction of the Falcon. We see it as an interesting and important addition to the Atari product line. It will help create a market that is increasingly oriented towards graphic and video applications. Furthermore it will help educate the user base in regards to the requirements of modern desktop video technology. This aspect should not be underestimated. It is our goal to provide a quality product for the professional user or the serious home user. With on-screen resolutions of e.g. 2048x1024 in 256 colors, refresh rates that can go beyond 100 Hz, real (no less than 16 Million colors) True Color capabilities with resolutions of e.g. 640x480, 800x600, 960x512 or even 1024x512 and virtual resolutions up to 4096x4096 (non-interlaced) we do not anticipate any problems regarding the evolving Falcon market. Through the additional expansion capabilities of the cards (which is for instance being utilized by the CyReL VidiMix8 desktop video module) we think that we have a very promising platform to offer. A platform that easily integrates into the ever expanding Atari environment. But we are still convinced that there is a need of a co-operation between users, software-developers and hardware manufacturers in order to make this concept work. We hope that our contributions might help to establish the Atari computers as a viable alternative to the popular systems in the DTP, CAD and desktop video markets. In this spirit, I would like to thank you for your interest in our products. Best regards, CYBERCUBE RESEARCH LTD. M16-Product Coordinator Please feel free to write, e-mail or fax us any comments or suggestions. We are interested in your feedback and will do our best to make needed improvements on a timely basis. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 4 Thu Apr 29, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 21:14 EDT Several users or customers have called or e-mailed for some more specific details about the CyReL VidiMix8 Desktop Video Module. So here they come, a neat list of specs for all those who simply love to dig in technical data and parameters. *,* \_/ ._____. __ __ .______. .______. ._. / .___. \ \ \ / / | .___. \ | .____! | | | | !_! \ \_/ / | !___! | | !__. | | | | ._. \ / | .__. ./ | .__! | | | !___! | | | | | \ \ | !____. | !____. \._____./ !_! !_! \_\ !______! !______! .__ ._. ._. ._. ._. .__ __. ._. .____. \ \ | | !_! | | !_! | \ / | !_! __ __ / .__. \ \ \ | | ._. .___| | ._. | . \/ . | ._. \ \ / / | !__! | \ \| | | | / .__. | | | | |\ /| | | | \ \/ / | .__. | \ ! | | ! | !__! | | ! | | \/ | | | ! / /\ \ | !__! | \__| !_! \______! !_! !_! !_! !_! /_/ \_\ \.____./ CyReL VIDIMIX-8 Features for SUNRISE M16-1280 Version: 1.2b Date: 02/93 CyReL VIDIMIX-8 The Integrated Desk-Top Video Module for the CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 for the ATARI TT030 and MEGA STE = 3 composite video inputs. Software allows to instantly switch between several video sources. = Software controllable 75 Ohm termination or high impedance for loop-through on each input. Enables the operation of a control monitor on each input or signal looping to the next video processing station. = Inputs CCIR compatible. Almost any tape recorder, video disk, Camcorder, Camera or video effects equipment can be used as a video source. = 1 composite video output. Accepted by most VCR and TV equipment. = 1 S-VHS output ( MINIDIN-4 ) for better output quality and signal fidelity. = Simultaneous S-VHS ( Y/C ) and NTSC / PAL output. Record the S-VHS output while controlling the composite output on a monitor. = Programmable sync output ( high / low, composite, H & V ). Flexible enough to match any equipment requirements. = 12 different NTSC & PAL output standards. Many different PAL and NTSC substandards and options supported. = Interlaced / non-interlaced output possible. Captured interlaced video frames/clips can be played back in non-interlace mode for use on a computer monitor. Also de-interlaces incoming TV signals. = Pixel output configurable to 1:1 or 4:3 ratio. Ideal for switching between computer graphics (1:1) and video (4:3) applications. = Programmable 24-bit gamma correction. Allows many color correction functions as well as a host of special effects like solarisation. Software controlled color look-up table bypass feature. = 8 different YUV / RGB input formats. Process and save captured video frames and clips in many different formats including the most widely used YUV modes. = Video keying. Allows a wide range of 'graphics-over-video' effects, including video titling, GEN-locking and image keying. = Software controlled chrominance phase. Adjust the color quality of the output signal through software controlled slider functions. = Chrominace bandwidth enhancer. Boosts the output quality or reduces the signal strength to match any recording equipment specifications. = Software controlled color sub carrier adjust. Prevents loss of color due to weak or mis-aligned color sub carrier frequencies. = Four operating modes ( including : Gen-lock, master / slave ). The VidiMix8 can either receive or generate all necessary control signals to drive a variety of video equipment. = Selectable fast tracking mode for VCR operation ( in Gen-lock mode ). Enables very stable gen-lock operation even when operating with various VCR playback modes. = Color or B&W operation. Introduce color to B&W pictures or convert color signals to black and white. = Background color generator. Flash fills the entire screen. Fades to or from any desired shade or black. = Real time true color digitizing. Digitizer can perform on-the-fly picture scaling. Scaling function and amount can be freely configured. = Possible output resolutions : - NTSC 640 x 525 60Hz interlaced - NTSC 720 x 525 60Hz interlaced - PAL 720 x 625 50Hz interlaced - PAL 768 x 625 50Hz interlaced - NTSC 640 x 524 60Hz non-interlaced - NTSC 720 x 524 60Hz non-interlaced - PAL 720 x 624 50Hz non-interlaced - PAL 768 x 624 50Hz non-interlaced Specifications subject to change without notice. All trademarks are properties of their respective companies. (c) 1993 by CyReL, Canada. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 5 Fri Apr 30, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 08:18 EDT Hi Brig, thank you for your interest in our products. Here is the CyReL Software Price List: PRICES CyReL Utilities -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Order Description Media/ Canada U.S. or Code Format International -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ACSM12 CyReL Serial Mouse Manager & Driver one 3.5" 2DD Cdn $15.00 US $13.00 Release 1.02c or later Disk ACPM37 CyReL Palette Master one 3.5" 2DD Cdn $20.00 US $17.00 Release 3.7e or later Disk SHIPPING & HANDLING CHARGES -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quantity In the U.S. or Canada International of Disks Ordered US $ or Cdn $ US $ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 $1.00 $2.50 2-5 $2.50 $5.00 5-10 $5.50 $10.00 10-over* $10.00 $20.00 Cut along the dotted line. ..................................................................o/..... 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Allow 3 to 4 weeks for delivery. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- QTY. | CODE | DESCRIPTION | PRICE | TOTAL ------|--------|-------------------------------------|--------|----------- | ACSM12 | CyReL Serial Mouse Manager & Driver | | ------|--------|-------------------------------------|--------|----------- | ACPM37 | CyReL Palette Master | | ------|--------|-------------------------------------|--------|----------- | | | | --------------------------------------------------------------|----------- Subtotal of all items ordered | |----------- Ontario residents add 8% tax | |----------- Canadian orders add 7% GST | |----------- Shipping and handling charges | (See schedule above) |----------- __________ TOTAL | | ---------- DATE: ____ - ____ - 19____ NAME: _______________________________________ SIGNATURE: _______________________________________ Method of payment: All orders must be prepaid. Check/Money Order in Canadian or U.S. funds only. PLEASE ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS: COMPUTER: CPU: WHERE DID YOU LEARN ABOUT THIS PRODUCT: [] ST [] 68000 [] Magazine article/review _____________________ [] Mega ST [] 68010 [] Magazine advertisment _____________________ [] MEGA STE [] 68020 [] Dealer visit ________________________________ [] TT030 [] 68030 [] Trade show ________________________________ [] Falcon 030 [] 68040 [] Network _____________________________________ [] Portable [] 68060 [] BBS _____________________________________ [] Personal recommendation WHERE WILL YOU USE THIS PRODUCT: [] Primarily at home [] Primarily at work [] Both equally MAIN APPLICATION(S): _________________________________________________________________________ STof493/VI Mail to: Cybercube Research Limited 126 Grenadier Crescent Thornhill, ON, L4J 7V7, Canada ..............................................................o/........ Cut along the dotted line. The recommended U.S. retail price for the CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 True Color High Resolution Graphics Card is U.S. $1,495 . The distributor for North America is: DMC Publishing Inc. 2800 John Street, Suite 10 Markham, ON, L3R 0E2, Canada For fast and friendly service call (416) 479 1880 or fax your request to (416) 479 1882. If you have any other questions, we would be glad to be of assistance. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 6 Tue May 04, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:32 EDT Update: Cybercube is pleased to announce the release of the new and enhanced CyReL VDI driver featuring the latest revision of the CyReL Color LINE-A Emulator. The LINE-A Emulator has now been fully integrated into the VDI driver package, allowing the use of many LINE-A dependent programs and utilities. Most of the CyReL LINE-A functions execute up to 300% faster than the original routines found in the TT030. Currently we are working on the TRUE COLOR LINE-A Emulator, which is planned to be released by the end of the week. With the implementation of this unique set of drivers consisting of a VT52, TT Color, LINE-A XBIOS and VDI drivers, the CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 achieves a new level of compatibility. The upgrade will automatically be sent to all CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 users. The CyReL upgrade policy has been extended and we now offer a free 18 months upgrade service for all our customers. Should you have any more questions regarding the CyReL drivers, the upgrade policy or any other inquiry, please leave a note in this topic. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 7 Fri May 07, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:18 EDT UPDATE: Partial list of programs found to be compatible with the CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 Graphics Cards. ----Telecommunications----------------- Rufus Terminal Program Stalker Terminal Program Steno Capture Buffer prog. Connect Terminal program Alladin GEnie Interface Flash II Terminal Program StraightFAX Fax program ----Filehandling----------------------- Cheetah File Manager CodeHead MAXIFILE File Manager ----Screen Accelerators---------------- Bela NVDI* Accelerator CodeHead WARP9* Accelerator ----Utilities-------------------------- Selectric Fileselector Letemfly Flying Dialogs CodeHead MULTIDESK Accessory Manager CodeHead HOTWIRE Program Launcher STZIP Decompressor COMMAND Command Line Interface Gribnif MUTIL** Disk Utility Atari PRGFLAGS File Utility Atari NOROACH Disk Utility Bela GEMTEST Benchmark QUICKINDEX 2.2 Benchmark FASTTECH Benchmark NBM The Ness Benchmark WINNI 40 Windows program CHAMELEON Accessory Manager PRIV_EYE System utility SYS_INFO System Utility STDCAT Disk Catalog prog AUTOSORT AUTO Folder Manager SuperBoot Boot Utility EDITFONT.PRG GDOS font editor COMPO That's A Font Font Editor CMPFILE.PRG File comparison utility DoubleClick DCX_PLUS File (de)compressor ----Accessories------------------------ CyReL SERMOUSE Serial Mouse Manager CyReL CYRELSSM Serial Mouse Accessory CyReL PALMASTR Palette Master CyReL VDI_CONF VDI Configuration CyReL RUNME1ST Installation program CyReL CB_PAINT Fun paint program CyReL DISPCONF Display Configuration PAULA Mod Player GRAFITY Fun paint program MDISK RAM Disk/ File Manager MPAINT Paint program BIT37 Disk Formatter ORA DFORMAT Disk Formatter GEMLOAD CPU workload display GLASNOST Disk space analyzer PROCALC Calculator SNAPSHOT Snapshot utility Atari TLKCLOCK Talking Clock Atari XCONTROL Extended Control Panel FORMAT.ACC formatter accessory TitEd.ACC text editor accessory GEMSound Sound/FX accessory APROCALC.ACC Calculator accessory CAL62A Calendar ----CPX Modules------------------------ Atari GENERAL Version 01.20 Atari SOUND Version 01.00 Atari CONFIG Version 01.00 Atari MACCEL Version 01.01 Atari MODEM Version 01.20 Atari PRINTER Version 01.20 Atari SAMPLE Version 01.00 Atari FONTGDOS Version 01.00 Atari COLOR Version 01.06 Atari FSM Version 01.00 Atari FSMPRINT Version 01.00 Atari COLOR Version 02.00 Atari WCOLORS Version 02.00 COOKIES Cookies viewer FILEINFO Dir config CPX SYSTEM System/OS analyzer BOOT AUTO Folder ASCIITAB Programmer's utility SETENV Environment String CPX ----System Software-------------------- CyReL CM16_VIP M16 Boot Program CyReL M16VDI8B 256 color VDI CyReL M16VDITC True Color VDI Atari GDOS GDOS OS extension Atari FSMGDOS GDOS OS extension Atari MINT Multi-tasking TOS Atari MULTITOS Multi-tasking TOS Atari SpeedoGDOS Font Scaling, GDOS POWERDOS Multi-tasking OS, LAN Data Diet V1.0 Compressor ----DTP Programs ---------------------- DMC CALAMUS Calamus SL DMC OUTLINE3 Font/Image processing Soft-Logik PAGESTREAM V2.2 ----Image Processing------------------- TMS CRANACH Touch-up/post-processing HiSoft TRUPAINT Graphics/Drawing MT Scan Microtek Scanner software ----Charting/Drawing Programs---------- SciLab SCIGRAPH Vector/Drawing ASH PAPILLON Graphics Lexicor PRISMPNT** Prism Paint Artis ARTIS3 Paint program MyDraw Vector/Drawing ----CAD Programs----------------------- Ditek DynaCADD CAD program GfA GFADRAFT** Drafting program digital workshop CAMPUS.PRG CAMPUS CAD ----Rendering/Animation---------------- RAYSHADE512 Renderer Lexicor PHOENIX Renderer Lexicor CyberColor Recoloring utility Lexicor TRACE Tracer/Vektorizer Lexicor TGASCALE Scaling/Antialiasing ----Word Processing-------------------- GST WORDPLUS First Word Plus WordflairII Word processor COMPO That's Write Word processor ----Spreadsheets----------------------- LDW LDWPOWER.PRG Spreadsheet/charting program (highest tested resolution: 960x600) ----Editors---------------------------- EDISON Editor 7UP Editor ----Assemblers------------------------- HiSoft GENST Editor/Assembler HiSoft DEVPACK Editor/Assembler Borland TASM Assembler ASH PASM Assembler ----Debuggers-------------------------- TEMPLMON TempleMon HiSoft MONST Debugger HiSoft MON Debugger OverScan SYSMON Tracer ----Compilers-------------------------- Borland TC Turbo C ASH PC Pure C Megamax C C compiler CCD Personal Pascal Pascal compiler*** CCD Pascal Plus Pascal compiler*** ***= only the editor does not run properly but can easily be replaced by any other compatible editor that accepts arguments. ----Disk Utilities--------------------- ACOPY.PRG copy/format program COPYSTAR.PRG copy program FCOPY_3.PRG copy/format program HYPRF307.PRG format program ----Harddisk Utilities----------------- Atari HARDDISK Backup program TURTLE Backup program THEVAULT Backup program ORA BACKUP Diamond BackUp ORA EDGE Diamond Edge Data Becker PBP Partition Backup Program ICD SCSI Pro Utilities HD utilities ----Alternate Desktops----------------- GEMINI Desktop replacement ----Recource Construction Sets--------- ORCS Otto's RSC Atari RCS8 Digital Research RSC Atari SE Sprite Editor ----Viewers---------------------------- CyReL VIEW_JPG JPG Viewer CyReL VIEW_TGA TGA Viewer CyReL VIEW_GIF GIF Viewer CyReL VIEW_PCX PCX Viewer 1STView File/Image Viewer GEMView File/Image Viewer/Converter Migraph IMGSHOW IMG Viewer Lexicor TTGIF2 GIF Viewer ----Math/Financial programs------------ MNDL_FPU Mandelbrot MNDL_INT Mandelbrot A&D Tax Wizzard tax calculator ----Shells----------------------------- ARCSHELL.PRG shell EDMSHELL.PRG shell UNLZH172.PRG shell ----Sound/Sample Processing------------ 525.PRG Sample converter ----Games------------------------------ BALLERBURG.PRG Game TETRIS.ACC Game BREAKOUT.ACC Game REVERSI.PRG Game KUBIS.ACC Tetris game MINOS.ACC 3D labyrinth REVERSI.ACC Reveri game RUBRIKS.ACC Rubrik's screen saver YAMS.ACC game --------------------------------------- NOTE: This list is *NOT* complete. The information is provided 'as is'. Some of the programs listed have been tested by Cybercube, others by our customers. We would like to thank Bob Voorneveld for his contributions to this update. Should you require more information about a specific program, please contact the author/manufacturer directly. This will most of the time be the best way to find out if the program is 100% VDI compatible. In case you are not able to contact the these parties, try the manufacturer/distributor or leave a message here. We will try our best to answer your questions. This list will be ammended and updated as required. Last update: May 03 1993 ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 8 Tue Jul 13, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:24 EDT The following message is intended as our answer to some very irritating events and claims that have appeared in various topics throughout GEnie: We have always tried to do our best to work together with other Atari developers to make products for your Atari system more compatible. The flexibility and ease of use of our VDI display drivers have been of special concern to us. We have welcomed the structure of GEM that requires only a single display driver in order to expand the original operating system and feature set. The built-in, intuitive windows based operating system, which has been a standard feature since 1985, has now in a similar fashion been adopted by a increasing number of computer platforms. We value this open and user-friendly operating system as one of the major reasons why users opted to buy an Atari system. The integrated GEM environment provides a simple and easily manageable way of upgrading your entire computer system and thus keeping it in lock-step with the latest developments. Now we are witnessing some very distressing and irritating attempts to force Atari users to the same confinements that users of other platforms ever since had to endure: - Special display drivers for every different add-on and mode. - Special display drivers for every different program. - Even new drivers for every new version of the same program. Limiting the customer's choices to the own selection of products, a few endorsed packages and even statements of deliberate actions to block out competitors, make it hard to promote the open spirit of the entire platform. Any serious company that cares about their customers will cater to their needs. Restricting choices does not reflect proper business behaviour. Such conduct will ultimately lead to a hopelessly segmented market, a market without any viability to support or attract new developments. Instead of productive co-operation and joint efforts to take advantage of new market potentials, we have seen misleading attempts to make customers belief that there is only one right choice and the existence of an ultimate answer for all applications. This has never been nor will it ever be our policy. We think that we offer a good quality product, and we stand by our commitment to continue to improve our products on a regular basis. We try to provide honest product support. Accurate, reliable and down to earth. Keeping our customers up to date and informing them about our progress is a key strategy for us. We have our own experienced staff working on the drivers and associated software in-house. Our customers have direct access to the developers as well as customized versions and we appreciate their input to further improve our products. It in turn provides us with a invaluable insight in our customer's needs. This feedback provides us with all the information about what we have to change, add or remove. Since we also develop the products we sell, we know exactly how to help a customer with his application, what to do and where to seek for answers, and most of all: we care about our products as we care for our customers. Here at Cybercube we place great emphasis on our relation with individual customers. This is a direct result of our experience in dealing with industrial applications over the last years. Cybercube has also a tradition of building custom designed products. We take pride in our workmanship, we adhere to the highest quality, we place reliability and dependability before purely commercial considerations, and we back our products with solid support. All our products are developed right here in North America. We support our local distributors, local suppliers and local contractors and dealers. Every unit must comply with our quality standards, must pass a rigorous set of tests and a minimum of 80 hours of operation and burn-in. The CyReL graphics and imaging products are custom designs, developed specifically for the Atari. It meant extra efforts, additional expenditures as well as longer development times. But we are convinced that it was worth it. We now offer fully integrated solution, suited for a wide range of applications. We even incorporated some custom designed IC's, industrial strength components, military grade boards and a comprehensive set of drivers and utilities for your platform, not just something you tried to avoid by not buying a clone or different system. However, it is not our habit to brag about dubious sales figures, nor do we pressure anybody into any sort a deal because of pending price increases. Quite to the contrary: We invite prospective customers to make a sound and well balanced decision when they plan to buy one of our products. We like to discuss the intended applications that the user has in mind and we tell the customer when we honestly feel that our solution might not be the best for his intended use and refer him to our competitors. It is our belief that only these simple rules can guarantee a satisfied, productive and confident user base. Just to give you a glimpse of the scope of products that we have been working on lately, here a few examples: CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 True Color High Resolution Graphics Cards One of the most powerful and flexible graphics cards available, now supports on-screen resolutions of up to 2048x1536, comes complete with our own unique interactive installation program and more than 1.2 MB of software. The latest revision of the included VDI drivers feature our own True Color LINE-A driver as well as the newest version of the CyReL FASTblit routines. One year free upgrade service and customer support through phone, fax, GEnie, InterNet or our own BBS with almost 1 GB of software on-line. CyReL Palette Master 4.0f: This feature-rich color handling utility is specially geared towards color image touch-ups. It now comes complete with it's own configuration files, color profile processing capabilities and keyboard short-cuts. CyReL Serial Mouse Manager 1.03c: Latest edition now supports MS and PC Mouse compatible mice as well as the Summagraphics MM and BitPad II graphics digitizer for your professional input device driver needs. CyReL VidiMix8 Desktop Video Module: This unique and exceptional add-on module for the CyReL M16-1280 graphics cards brings a full set of desktop video functions to your Atari platform. GENlock to a live-video source, digitize in True Color in real-time, superimpose your video input with a computer generated graphic or a True Color image and encode the result conforming to one of 12 international TV standards ALL at the SAME time. The integrated package completely fits on to the expansion connectors of the CyReL M16-1280 graphics cards and inside your computer. No dongles nor any external boxes or bridge cables. CyReL MPT-16 Module: The next new extension module for the CyReL M16-1280 graphics cards. Provides our own VMECache+ features, the new FlexChrome VDI driver and display accelerations up to 3500%. CyReL Catalog Disk: Another first from Cybercube. Now you can take advantage of one easy way to get all the information about our products, simpler ordering and faster processing of your needs. Enjoy new sets of stunning 24-bit images, sample the awesome beauty of True Color renderings. Have a first hand look at our products and specials. and more... There are even more exciting hardware and software products planned to be released this year. Watch for our upcoming announcements and press-releases. Should you need additional information on these or other Cybercube products, we would be glad to be of further assistance. In case you liked some of our ideas, principles and services, we would like to invite you to stop by in our own topic (CATegory 16, TOPic 12) to experience it for yourself. Unbiased, at your own leisure, without any obligations. And after that, maybe you would even like to join us to continue in this spirit. Best Regards, CYBERCUBE RESEARCH LTD. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 9 Thu Aug 19, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 23:18 EDT General announcement: Cybercube is pleased to announce that we have now the permission to include the latest version of GEM-View (unregistered) with the CyReL tools and software drivers that come with the CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 True Color High Resolution Graphics Cards. All our existing customers can obtain a copy of GEM-View 2.40 either by downloading it here from GEnie or by sending a pre-formatted 720 KB disk and $2 for S&H to our mailing address. Please state GEM-View update on the envelope. We will start including GEM-View 2.40 and upgrade as soon as newer versions will be changed from their beta status to official releases. Please note that these are unregistered versions of GEM-View and we would like to urge you to register you copy to receive your personalized GEM-View package. If you have any questions regarding this additional offer, please send e-mail to: CYBERCUBE. Cybercube Product Coordinator. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 10 Thu Aug 19, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 23:39 EDT Greetings, boy, what a busy day this has been. I've started my day by attending an keynote address and presentation of Microsoft's CEO Bill Gates. Bill has been on a one day tour to Canada to deliver his speech at the Ryerson Politechnical Univerity here in Toronto. Ryerson is proud to have become a university after educating many students under it's old form as a polytechnic institute. Bill Gate's 'Putting Technology to Work for Canadians' focused on the special role of the $45 billion information technology market in Canada and it's effects on North America. He then continued to outline his and Microsoft's vision of the future of the digital age. One of his most often used words: richness. Rich GUIs, richly packed applications, interacting in a rich way, enriching our lives. Well, certainly his and Microsoft's success have 'enriched' the lives of some now well known personalities as well as created a whole new infrastructure. People have started to do their jobs in a different way, taking advantage of IT tools and they now, according to Gates, perform in richer ways. Well then, now you heard it. *,< \_/ Next, I had to attend a couple of meetings, and we just received a new batch of cards, all ready to be subjected to their final tests. Further, we have come around and finished some long awaited press releases, of which the first ones should have been U/Led by now. We have further pursued to our efforts to create new cooperations with other Atari vendors and we hope to be able to make some exciting announcements soon. Further, I am pleased to report that our new products, due for Fall '93 are coming along nicely. They will once again, offer an integrated environment and help you to better organize your system as well as increase your efficiency. Closing, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that Mario (DMC) will be demonstrating the cards at the Houston Atari Safari (Aug. 21). Everybody interested in and around Texas should try to attend this promising show. Next month, we will be represented at the Glendale show, and we are confident that it will be as equally successful as the years before. Take care. Enjoy your updates. More is coming. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 11 Fri Aug 20, 1993 G.CORRELL [CAMPER] at 00:18 EDT Hi Ralf, I have my upgrade, Thanks, It's working fine. You mentioned that you used an accessory for rez changes, will we be able to get it from you?, and how soon? Joey, I'am also thinking of buying a 17 inch monitor, I hope before to long. keep us posted on your progress. Greg ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 12 Fri Aug 20, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 05:01 EDT Thanks Ralf! Believe it or not that made complete sense!:-) I'm looking at the Mitsibushi Diamond Scan 17. I went and checked the list and it's not there but the 16 and 20 are so that should be close enough.:-) I'll send you the specs to add should I buy it. BTW, this list is great! Would it be possible to upload it or is it considered part of the Cyrel package? Sounds good on the monitor driver program! I could really use some high res monochrome modes... or is it duochrome on a color monitor? Look forward to seeing all this great stuff your working on! Greg, Don't worry, I'll let you know exactly what happens!:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 13 Fri Aug 20, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:21 EDT Greg, the resolution changer utility is already a part of the CyReL SUNRISE package. What we are going to release is our in-house timing editor that uses the monitor list as a database to create the different video timings. Joey, sorry, but the list is a part of our software package and NOT public domain. We've put quite some efforts in that package, and the list as well. So for now, this list is for the benefit of CyReL users only. Yep, we are working on our monochrome CyReL MonoFlex VDI, which will give you up to 2048x1536 on screen (8192x2048 in virtual res modes) and features fast screen redraws (about 3000% faster than the normal monochrome modes). Enjoy the weekend. I'm outta here! Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 14 Sat Aug 21, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 06:13 EDT Ralf, Ok, I'm benefitting from the list already!:-) Glad to here your working on the mono modes! I have plenty of things that support larger resolutions but not the colors. I mess the TTM's we have at work. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 15 Sun Aug 22, 1993 VORTEXT at 12:01 EDT Ralph, Does the cyrel card any significant power off the power supply. It seems that at times, after having my machine on for awhile, the screen blanks out. I can switch back to the regular TT ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 16 Sun Aug 22, 1993 R.STEGELMANN [Rolf] at 15:02 EDT Has anyone ever gotten LDW to work with the Cyrel card? I use the card at 1024x786x256 res, LDW comes up (the screen) then locks up the system (this is on a TT). Also Calligrapher 3 does not work. It does the same thing as LDW. I have the latest VDI. In true coler mode (800x600) the MultiTOS icons are all monocrome (all white or black). Does anyone have the same problem or is it just my system? Rolf ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 17 Mon Aug 23, 1993 VORTEXT at 01:57 EDT Rolf, You'll find that most of the Codehead products won't work with the Cyrel card. Something to do with the way they display text on the screen. Calligrapher, Avant Vektor etc. all boot okay, but you can't work with them. Also, if you try and display a file from within MaxiFile, same thing. To bad, I love the Codehead stuff. Daniel ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 18 Mon Aug 23, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:27 EDT Joey, anybody interested in the new CyReL MPT-16 module to support the CyReL MonoFlex VDI should send e-mail to CYBERCUBE. We have a new information package regarding this exciting product. Daniel, the CyReL cards have been designed with low power consumption in mind. Refer to the appendices in your manual for more information about the power consumption. About the 'black-out' problem: Are you using any kind of weird screen saver combination ? Rolf, sorry, I promised that already. Now I really have to look into that mysterious LDW Power bug. I'll let you know what we find out. Multi-TOS & True Color: We have advanced the development of the 256 color VDI in the last few months. This month, there will be a major upgrade in the TC version as well. This should then fix the Multi-TOS problems you are referring to. Please note that the icons for Multi-TOS may be stored in a special file and you have to enable this file (DESKCICN.RSC). Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 19 Mon Aug 23, 1993 T.HENRY12 [Tom Jr.] at 23:52 EDT Hey anyone, Is this card available in a MegaBus version. I heard Crazy Dots' maker won't be making them anymore because of low demand. If it does, can I get a brochure or something? If it doesn't, can I get a brochure anyway? ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 20 Tue Aug 24, 1993 R.STEGELMANN [Rolf] at 03:15 EDT Daniel, Thanks, for the info. I think I will leave a note in the Codehead area to see what they say. Ralf, Thanks, at looking into the LDW Power bug. I have seen it working on other high resolution color cards before, at past Glendale shows. The DESCICN.RSC file is present on my system. I will be looking forward to the TC upgrade. Rolf ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 21 Tue Aug 24, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:22 EDT Tom Jr., the CyReL M16-1280 graphic cards are strictly VME BUS type cards. Sorry, but we never had a MEGABUS version, due to low demand as you just pointed out. Nonetheless I would be happy to mail you some information material about our entire product line and our graphics cards in particular. Please leave me a note with your address. Should you want to have some additional copies for your local user group, just let me know. *,* \_/ Rolf, yep. What puzzles me a bit about LDW Power is the fact that it runs in all sorts of weird resolutions as long as you stay BELOW that mysterious 1024x768 mark. Well, we've got some digging to do as it seems. =) Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 22 Tue Aug 24, 1993 VORTEXT at 21:14 EDT Ralph, Turns out the 'Black-out' effect is the result of Spelling Sentry. I had it set for background checking and when I type a word wrong (quite often) it blinks the screen. Well, for some reason, sometimes it doesn't come back, it just blinks it off. I've disabled Spelling Sentry and is fine again. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 23 Wed Aug 25, 1993 R.STEGELMANN [Rolf] at 03:14 EDT Ralf, Good news! I got LDW power to work even at 1024x768 resolution. The problem appears to be with MACCEL3 and SERMOUSE. If I have either one of them activated in the auto folder (not both at the same time) then the system hangs as soon as I start LDW Power. That should narrow down the problem to looking at SERMOUSE only. This also fixes the hang in Calligrapher 3, but Caligrapher 3 still does not draw to the screen correctly, and as Daniel indicated the CodeHead stuff does not seem to work properly because they are doing their own VDI stuff. I do have a problem with MIGRAPHs OCR and TOUCHUP. The programs work except that their icon menu is totaly blank. There should be a bunch of small icons, one to each grid position--only the grid shows. Rolf ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 24 Wed Aug 25, 1993 TQUINN [Terry~Sysop] at 16:01 EDT The first 200 messages in this Topic have been archived and are available in Library 13 as file # 29806 (CYBERC_1.ARC). This archive covers the period between February 20, 1993 and August 25, 1993. Terry Quinn ST RT Sysop and BBS Janitor ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 25 Wed Aug 25, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:06 EDT Daniel, thanks for the info. Still I would like to explore this a bit more since it should ALWAYS come back. Maybe you could give me some more details about it. If you feel it would be TOO detailed to discuss it here, leave me some e-mail. *,* \_/ Rolf, congrats! Fine, now that we know the culprit I can go ahead and check what really is causing all those problems... However, I suspect that the VECTOR SENTRY built-in into SERMOUSE collides somehow with LDW Power. The VECTOR-SENTRY makes sure that the mouse is still there even if you switch the resolution, change the VDI or do a ton of foolish things to the system vectors... Oh well, we'll check it out. +.+ \_/ Terry, thanks for cleaning up a bit. *,* \_/ I really appreciate it if I do not have to clean up my own mess. =) Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 26 Wed Aug 25, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:15 EDT INVISION ELITE (Color) & the CyReL cards: Just wanted to let you know that I had a very pleasant meeting with Harlan Hugh (author of INVISION ELITE) and we discussed a variety of topics concerning his program and the few existing problems when running it on the card. We've agreed to work on this subject and we'll keep you updated. TRUE Paint & the CyReL cards: We've completed the test of the full version of HiSoft's True Paint and we are pleased to report that the program performs exceptionally well. Before Dawn: Another real nice screen saver that uses the VDI to entertain you with some interesting animations and sequences during 'blank periods'. Well made, even if you have to get used to the name and there are no flying toasters (or windows) ... but there are lots of flying disks and alarm clocks. *,* \_/ Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 27 Thu Aug 26, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 06:32 EDT Ralf, Good news on all of the above! When you say True Paint performs exceptionally well, what does that mean exactly?:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 28 Thu Aug 26, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:45 EDT Joey, sorry, we have to wait until the new version officialy debuts before we can talk about all the new and proposed goodies. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 29 Fri Aug 27, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 04:30 EDT Ralf, No problem... I'll be here when their ready! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 30 Fri Aug 27, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 12:04 EDT I've noticed that a New set of CPX's and a new version of XCONTROL has been recently Uploaded here on GEnie. I've tested some of them on the card and these are the ones that I found to work on my TT. XCONTROL 1.31 CPX VERSION COLORVDI.CPX 2.10 CONFIG.CPX 2.10 GENERAL.CPX 1.40 MODEM.CPX 1.30 Has anyone else tried these or any of the other ones so maybe we can update the CPXVERSN.DOC Bob P.S. The new SOUND.CPX doesn't work at all with the TT or STE as was reported in the CPX CAT ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 31 Fri Aug 27, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:38 EDT Bob, we've updated a number of documents and files regarding the description of various CyReL M16-1280 features. One of them is the CPXVERSN.DOC All new CPX modules tested worked fine on the card, except those that would not run in the normal TT modes as well. Should anybody wish a list of all the new files, please leave e-mail to Cybercube. The CyReL M16-1280 Programmer's Workshop is ready: A wide collection of source files, demos and programming tips as well as numerous detailed descriptions are now available to programmer's who want to take advantage of the CyReL M16-1280 feature set. The Workshop includes many commented source files, programming guides and ready-to-use utilities. The CyReL Programmer's Workshop is available directly from Cybercube for $30 New Monitors from Mitsubishi: Many of the Mitsubishi monitors have been honoured recently. Following that promising trend, Mitsubishi now announced a number of new monitors as well as an extended warranty program, now covering 3 full years. Ranging from the new 14" Diamond Pro SVGA (SRP Cdn $499) to the Diamond Pro 21FS (SRP Cdn $3,499), Mitsubishi's product palette has been well complemented and is bound to increase in popularity. In addition, a special BBS has been established to allow interested customers to retrieve the latest up to date information on new Mitsubishi monitors. Set your modem to 2400,N,8,1 and dial 1-714-236-6286. Phillips Brilliance monitors continue to shine: If you are looking for a modern, well designed high performance monitor, Phillips may have the answer for you. It's new line of monitors cover any application. Screen sizes range from 14" to 21" and offer flat square tubes with dark glass. The high efficiency Antiglare Tubes ensure accurate color reproductions and freedom from glare and distortion. All the new Brilliance monitors offer low emmision controls and feature low power consumption. Should you have some interesting informations regarding monitors, why not share it with other interested users. Monitors are one of the most important computing devices and can certainly make a big difference whether you will enjoy working with your system. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 32 Sun Aug 29, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 00:15 EDT Compu-Store Online (right here on GEnie) carries some of the Mitsubishi monitors at pretty decent prices not to mention a lot of them. I should be getting the 17" Diamond Scan Monday if UPS operates as usual.:-) I'll be sure to post the results! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 33 Wed Sep 01, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:21 EDT Joey, congratulations on your new monitor! We sure would like to hear your 'impressions'. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 34 Wed Sep 01, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:22 EDT CyReL Catalog Disk now available: We've just released the first edition of the CyReL Catalog Disk. Please refer to the posted press release for more details. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 35 Thu Sep 02, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 03:57 EDT Ralf, Thanks! I'll cover it in greater detail later but for now, I can say it's great!:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 36 Thu Sep 02, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:41 EDT CyReL 9/93 VDI Update coming soon: Improved VT52 performance, updated utilities and a faster True Color VDI are the main features of the September CyReL VDI update. The update will be mailed/e-mailed to all CyReL M16-1280 customers. All users of the CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 Rev 2F and earlier, please contact Cybercube for an updated list of the Rev 2F drivers. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 37 Fri Sep 03, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 22:49 EDT Thanks Ralf for the info on the 9/93 update BTW what goodies are in the new catalog for those of us that already have a card? :>) I put a check in the mail this morning but I just wanted a little more info than was in the presc@ B J +WW- Z g minds want to Know). ;>) Bob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 38 Tue Sep 07, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:48 EDT Bob, overview about the product list, all the ordering information, new product announcements... well, basically a description of all the CyReL stuff available and coming. *,* \_/ NEW: CyReL AMBIANCE Want to increase the appeal of your desktop ? Tired of the old 'gray' carpet underneath your icons ? Why not replace your boring desktop patterns with dazzling pictures ? Want to work in a new color dimension ? Define your own color fades for the background ? No problem! Cybercube is pleased to announce the CyReL Ambiance utility for the CyReL M16-1280 graphics cards. Simply select your favourite picture, image or clip and use the CyReL Ambiance accessory to configure your custom designed desktop layout. The CyReL Ambiance utility features 5 different image/backdrop modes and comes complete with a number of exciting color fades, images and clips. The present version requires the CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 cards, the CyReL VDI Driver (Version >1.36) and depending on the image, display mode and resolution up to 2 MB of memory. Most of the time you'll need only a few extra bytes from your main memory... even if you load an elaborate image into your desktop background. The installer will always try to utilize any unused RAM area in the video RAM buffer of the cards before occupying the main memory. Planned releases will also work on other cards, regular STs and even the Falcon. CyReL M16-1280 users can order this utility for just $15 directly from Cybercube. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 39 Fri Sep 10, 1993 G.CORRELL [CAMPER] at 01:58 EDT Hi Ralf, I will be going to the Glendale Faire, so send some goodies with Nathan and Mario that we can purchase. I guess you are not going to the show? I would like to meet you some day! Joey, how is the new monitor working? How high a rez can you get with the card? Greg ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 40 Fri Sep 10, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 06:16 EDT Greg, Works great so far! I need some better drivers though, the ones I have don't do it justice. It supports up to 1280x1024 at 130hz but the closest I could find was the 1024x768 at 86.9Hz. I'm just waiting on Ralf to release some new toys... as usual.:-) I listed a full spec sheet in the DynaCADD topic if anyones interested. If nobody objects I can post again here but I was trying to avoid a double post... Sysopsis?:-) The monitors really nice! In my search I also discovered monitor sizes aren't always the actual display size. The actual display size on a 17" monitor is 16". They actually count the .5" border behind the plastic molding. I checked my 14" Atari monitor and it's the same way, 13". I've been meaning to check Atari's 19" to see if it's really 18". Thats all diagonal measurements by the way. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 41 Fri Sep 10, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 09:40 EDT Greg .. which goodies did you have in mind please? ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 42 Fri Sep 10, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:13 EDT Greg, we have not spoken the final word on what is going to be shown at Glendale, what will be for sale and what we will keep under wraps until it is fully done. *,* \_/ But sure, there will be plenty of new things to see and buy. Check also our announcement in Cat 11 ! Joey, lotsa new monitor modes/files are coming. Sorry it took so long but we've been a bit busier than usual the last couple of weeks. CyReL SHOW_PCX.PRG PCX Slideshow Program now part of the CyReL M16-1280 package! We've just added the stunning 1024x768 super scroller, PCX Slideshow program to the M16-1280 software package. Existing customers can request a copy by mail or e-mail. The program displays ONLY 640x480 PCX images and they must all be in the same directory. Wonderful display of the 2048x1024 virtual screen mode. Dieter Fiebelkorn's GEM-View 2.46 (unregistered) is now shipping with every new CyReL M16-1280 order! We've made special arrangements to bring this latest masterpiece from Dieter to all our M16-1280 customers. Please note: GEM-View 2.46 is SHAREWARE and you must register it if you use it on a regular basis. GEM-View 2.46 will be supplied on a seperate disk. For more informations about the Cybercube display at the Glendale Atari show (18-19. September 1993) please visit Category 11 ! Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 43 Sat Sep 11, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 03:42 EDT Ralf, I think your just getting back at me for taking so long on Screen Grabber.:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 44 Sat Sep 11, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 16:17 EDT Joey, honestly, this is in no way a ploy to 'get back to you'. +,< \_/ We've just been a bit busy. Which I regard as good. It would be alarming if it would be otherwise. =') All our projects are coming along quite nicely. More after the Glendale show. *grin* Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 45 Sat Sep 11, 1993 SANDY.W [sysop] at 19:30 EDT The cyrel card is one thing I hope to see at Glendale. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 46 Sat Sep 11, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 19:57 EDT You will, Sandy! ;-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 47 Sun Sep 12, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 00:25 EDT Ralf, I know, I'm just messing with you and picking on myself.:-) We've been extremly busy too, hope it keeps up for both of us! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 48 Mon Sep 13, 1993 G.CORRELL [CAMPER] at 02:30 EDT Nathan, By goodies, I mean any small acc or prgs or updates. Ralf, I have been using Serial Mouse for some time now, with the screen saver on for the card, today, When I was using Calamus SL and the saver became activated, it crashed the program. This is the first time for Calamus. only because I never leave Calamus for a long period of time. The saver also crashes Aladdin when online (Has crashed Aladdin for a couple months or more). I'am registered with you for Cyrel Mouse Manager, any updates? If you have any, maybe you could give them to Nathan for Glendale. Thanks Greg ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 49 Mon Sep 13, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:18 EDT Joey, Sandy, we sure would be glad to show you all the latest stuff at Glendale. Just drop by the TCN booth and ask for Mario or Nathan! Greg, that's a curious thing... From all the CyReL SERIAL MOUSE MANAGER user's you are the first one to report crashes with Calamus. About the Aladin problems: What exactly happens ? I know that Bob had some Aladin problems before but he fixed them. Maybe he could give you some tips ? Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 50 Tue Sep 14, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 02:44 EDT What country is Glendale?:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 51 Tue Sep 14, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 19:07 EDT Ralf, Regarding Gregs message: >I have been using Serial Mouse for some time now, with the screen saver >on for the card, today, When I was using Calamus SL and the saver became >activated, it crashed the program. This is the first time for Calamus. only >because I never leave Calamus for a long period of time. The saver also >crashes Aladdin when online (Has crashed Aladdin for a couple months or more). I really haven't tested the screen saver with aladdin since I only use it to download files at 9600 baud. If you remember I reported that the screen saver and Calamus did not get along with the serial mouse on August 24th. At that time you sugested that I deactivate the screen saver and let you know what happened. When I did deactivate the screen saver Calamus no longer crashed. So since then I have not used the screen saver portion of the SERIAL MOUSE MANAGER when in SL. The manager does work with all my other programs fine. Bob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 52 Wed Sep 15, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:16 EDT Bob, Greg, hmmm, let me share with you some insight into the 'inner workings' of the Serial Mouse Driver. This driver constantly monitors any changes to some key system vectors, and if it finds that they have changed, it tries to adjust to that new situation. This is important due to several situations: 1. Keyboard vector may be changed by another program: Since you certainly want to 'wake-up' the system once you hit a key, the driver has to re-install itself to continue to be able to monitor any key presses! 2. Resolution changes: If the user uses some of the ALT-1,2,3... keys to change the resolution, the driver has to make sure it won't be 'thrown' out of the vector chains. This vital technique now seems to somehow collide with the mentioned programs.Calamus seems to emply a simmilar strategy to make sure you don't have an virus infested system, corrupted executable files, and to provide a safeguard against any system crashes. At first sight, it now appears to me that we have to examine this interaction a bit more carefully than we have apparently done in the past. *,* \_/ I regret any inconveniences this might have caused and I will keep you updated on the results of our tests. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 53 Wed Sep 15, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:24 EDT The following is a part of a discussion I am having with some users and I thought I might as well share it with you here as well: -------------------------------- The CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 High Resolution True Color Graphics cards have been custom designed for the Atari TT030 or Atari Mega STE machines. They are NOT adapted PC-ISA cards! Let me point out a couple of interesting, yet vital differences: 1. Industrial and Military grade quality components and boards: Rigorous electronic, mechanical and visual testing is being performed to assure the highest quality standards. Our boards consist of 6-layered boards designed to minimize cross-talk and interference of signals on the board level (VERY important for high speed TRUE COLOR operation, more on that later). The pure manufacturing cost of such a board almost doubles with each additional layer. We buy all our parts locally, thus supporting our home economy and jobs. We specify high quality brand name components ONLY. Each board is tested for 48 hours before shipping. 2. High speed design: Our graphics cards have been designed with high speed operation in mind. The entire architecture is being based on ultra-fast VRAM components, featuring a 32-bit video bus capable of transferring a max. of 166 MEGABYTES/second to the video logic. The 16-bit VME interface to the CPU can tranfer anything from 6 MB/s up to (special CyReL M16-1280 mode) 60 MB/s of data. This was only possible because WE designed the cards, and WE defined all parameters that could influence the performance of the boards. 3. Ultra-high resolutions: Here a few examples of what the CyReL M16-1280 can display (all modes tested on a 21" IDEK 5421 monitor): 1024x1024 in 256 colors 1280x1024 in 256 colors 1600x1024 in 256 colors 2048x1024 in 256 colors 3400x 600 in 256 colors 1024x1600 in 256 colors 1280x1280 in Monochrome 1600x1280 in Monochrome 2048x1024 in Monochrome 2048x1536 in Monochrome 512x 512 in True Color (real 24/32 bit per Pixel!) 640x 480 in True Color 768x 512 in True Color 800x 600 in True Color 1024x 512 in True Color As can be easily seen, these resolutions by far exceed what any VGA card can display. A high speed design was absolutely crucial for these performance levels. 4. Very high refresh rates: Depending on the mode and the monitor used, we supply over 80 (!) predefined video modes with refresh rates ranging from as little as 50 Hz (for low end monitors, TV applications) up to 120 Hz. The hardware supports refresh rates up to 260 Hz. 5. Custom designed parts: Best performance through the use of custom designed parts. These are only available to Cybercube and play a central role in the flexibility and performance of the CyReL M16-1280 cards. 6. Video Clocks and the flexibility to adapt to different monitors: Our boards feature a selection of 70 (!) INDIVIDUAL video clock frequencies. They can be freely selected via software. This allows for a very precise matching of whatever needs the monitor might have! And in case you need to have more: The CyReL expansion modules or even EXTERNAL devices may inject their custom video clock to be used by the video engine on the CyReL M16-1280. We supply a list with over 500 monitor specifications to every CyReL M16-1280 customer. This list is constantly being updated to include the latest developments of the monitor technology. The user can further select between over 80 predefined modes. A special VIDEO TIMING EDITOR allows video timings to your custom specifications. 7. Compact design utilizing the latest surface mount technology: Though the use of high density devices and components we have achieved a unique level of compactness and integration. Our design combines everything from economic monochrome modes to dazzling True Color modes, even photo-realistic video modes. We have taken great care to fully adhere to the VME standard and guidelines. We have consulted several times with Motorola regarding various design questions to make sure that our design meets the stringent requirements, even in industrial applications. We use only high quality SCHROFF (renowned german VMEBus accessories maker) parts for board mounting, faceplates and other hardware to guarantee perfect fit and long lasting reliability. 8. Unique custom designed expansion modules: Since we designed the CyReL M16-1280 from the ground up, we have acquired the necessary know-how to build custom designed expansion modules for our video graphics system. One example: The CyReL VidiMix8/16 modules provide on a small form factor of about 5 cm x 10 cm (approx. 2" x 3"): REAL TIME TRUE COLOR DIGITIZER digitizes either in PAL or NTSC resolution is programmable (e.g. 768x535) No CPU intervention necessary. THREE (!) LAYER VIDEO OUTPUT live video, computer animations and titling overlay can be combined in real time with no CPU overhead S-VHS input and output 4 S-VHS/composite inputs and one S-VHS and one composite video output STUDIO QUALITY GEN-LOCK syncs even to difficult low quality VHS video recorders in search/playback mode HIGH QUALITY VIDEO ENCODER works in 12 international TV modes. Encodes RGB and 5 different YC video formats ALL PARAMETER FULLY SOFTWARE No external boxes, switches or CONTROLLABLE difficult setups necessary And best of all, the VidiMix8/16 modules fit ONTOP of our graphics cards. You get a replacement faceplate with each VidiMix8/16 to make room for the new connector ports. No external boxes or dangling cables. At the SRP price of U.S. $495 we think that this is a unique and very attractive package. 9. Dedicated programmers: Two in-house programmers develop all the necessary drivers and software for our graphics cards. These programmers know the board and all the available features. The custom designed GEM drivers feature a high degree of flexibility and compatibility. The CyReL M16-1280 ships with more than 1.4 MB of software (not including the shareware demos)! Here is a list of the software packages that are included with every CyReL M16-1280 purchase: 1 CyReL RUN-ME-FIRST Interactive GEM Installation Program 1 CyReL CM16_VIP Initialization & Diagnostic Program Driver 1 CyReL VDI Driver for 256 Color Mode Driver 1 CyReL VDI Driver for True Color Mode Driver 1 CyReL SERMOUSE Serial Mouse Driver Driver 1 CyReL M16 Palette Master Accessory Utility 1 CyReL M16 VDI Configuration Accessory Utility 1 CyReL Serial Mouse Manager Accessory Utility 1 CyReL XCHANGE Video Mode Changer Utility 1 CyReL CONFDISP Video Parameter Editor Utility 1 CyReL VIEW_GIF Utility 1 CyReL SHOW_PCX Utility 1 CyReL VIEW_JPG Utility 1 CyReL CCALAMUS Calamus SL Starter Utility 1 CyReL CO_LINE3 Outline 3 Starter Utility 1 CyReL INIT_E2P EEPROM Initialization Program Program 1 CyReL BLOCK_PAINT Program 1 CyReL M16 User's Reference Manual Manual 1 CyReL Catalog Disk Catalog 20+ OnLine Help and documentation files Text 35+ predefined color palettes Data 80+ predefined video modes and resolutions Data 500 Monitor specifications Data Included SHAREWAEE demo programs: 1 Dieter Fiebelkorn's GEM-View >=2.46 Demo and more 10. Fast and friendly support: What does support have to do with PC ISA VGA cards ? Very much! As opposed to the standard practice with many 'no name' or Taiwan products, we support our customers in a variety of ways: GEnie: special CyReL M16-1280 Topic. Updated: every business day InterNet/UseNet: two accounts to serve you even through the InterNet. Updated: every business day CyReL M16 BBS: special sections and accounts for M16-1280 customers. Updated: every business day. Mail/Fax/Phone: If you want, you can also reach us directly. Written inquiries are usually being answered within 3 days. Customers with special maintenance and support programs receive priority handling. We provide ONE YEAR FREE UPGRADE SERVICE on all CyReL M16-1280 utilities. Our drivers are being updated on a monthly basis. Upgrades can be requested to be sent by private e-mail avoiding the hassles of keeping up with public uploads. Customers can even request customized versions of our drivers. ----------------------------------------- ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 54 Wed Sep 15, 1993 R.SCHILLING [Rob] at 22:45 EDT Ralf, Will the Sunrise board work with a PTC 1426 (TT color) monitor? If so, what would be the max rez? Rob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 55 Thu Sep 16, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 05:34 EDT Rob, I was using the Sunrise on a PTC1426 for a while and it worked great! Best the monitor will do is 800x512 in 256 colors and True Color. I recenty moved on to a 17" monitor, after using 800x512x16m the temptation was too great.:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 56 Thu Sep 16, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 19:20 EDT In regards to message 53 >10. Fast and friendly support: I think this should read Very fast... Very friendly... and very very, very complete ! As those of you that have every asked Ralf any questions can surely attest to. :>) That's probably why Nathan got him into Cat 16. ;>) Bob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 57 Thu Sep 16, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 21:31 EDT Rob, yes, as Joye already attested, you can use the PTC1426 with our cards as you could use any VGA type monitor. We had small 12" monochrome VGA monitors on it, SVGA monitors and multi-sync monitors. We even have some timing files for the card + VidiMix that let you use the trusty SC1224 with it. *,* \_/ Since the PTC1426 is a 'fixed frequency' monitor rather than a multi- sync monitor, you are somewhat limited in the max. resolutions on that tube. We found that you can safely use 800x512 on it. Higher resolutions might be possible (like true 800x600) but this depends very much on the particular monitor. Not all monitors are created equal (*grin*) and so there are variations even if you are looking at a couple of monitors of the same model. You always have to keep in mind that this monitor is being used to produces 320x200, 640x200, 640x400 and 640x480 when used on a TT030. So, even if 800x512 does not sound impressive, it still is a 33% increase over the max. TT mode and you can work in 256 colors or even True Color in that resolution. Should you require more information, please do not hesitate to contact CYBERCUBE or simply leave a message here! Joey, thanks for helping out! Glad you enjoyed working with the PTC1426. But as always, once you reached a certain level, there is that insatiable craving for more.... *,* \_/ BTW, how do you like your new monitor ? Bob, thanks also for the nice words. I hope we can keep up to all those expectations and laurels you guys are spreading around. +,< \_/ We just finished our preparations for the Glendale Show. Everybody is cordially invited (*grin*) to stop by at the TCN booth were Mario and Nathan will be more than happy to show the latest developments and news about our products. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 58 Fri Sep 17, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 06:05 EDT Ralf, Love it!:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 59 Fri Sep 17, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:42 EDT GLENDALE SHOW SPECIAL ------------------------------------------------------------------ Special Show Pricing for CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 True Color High Resolution Graphics Card for the Atari TT030 and Atari Mega STE Regular Price: U.S. $1495 **SHOW SPECIAL** U.S. $999 ------------------------------------------------------------------ We have lowered the price of the CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 to U.S. $999 or Cdn $1,300. Includes: CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 with 2 MB VRAM, user's manual, the complete CyReL M16-1280 software package as well as one year FREE software upgrade service. Please note that this is a limited time offer. Special show price is in effect for all orders placed on September 18th - 19th. The graphics cards can be purchased directly on the show, or if you are not attending the Glendale Show, you can still place your order by sending e-mail to DMC Publishing Inc, our North American distributor. For further information, send e-mail to CYBERCUBE. ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 60 Sat Sep 18, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 04:41 EDT Ooooooh! Get them while you can!:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 61 Sat Sep 18, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 13:27 EDT What a great deal ! Don't miss this oppertunity. You'll be glad you got it. I was! :>) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 62 Mon Sep 20, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:52 EDT CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 Special Ends! The special Glendale Show promotion of the CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 has drawn quite some interest and we are pleased with the results. The special $999 price offer ended at midnight today, but we will introduce new package deals and special offers in the coming weeks. We would like to thank everybody for their interest and we will certainly welcome all our old and new customers alike in this topic. CyReL Ambiance Desktop Image Manager V1.02: We are also preparing a brandnew demo version of our Ambiance desktop mangager for the CyReL M16-1280. The existing version is still M16-1280 only, but there are plans for a commercial version which will run on other configurations as well. If you need more information, please send e-mail to CYBERCUBE. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 63 Mon Sep 20, 1993 R.SCHILLING [Rob] at 21:20 EDT Ralf & Joey, Thanks for the info on the PTC 1426. I don't even have it yet, but hopefully very soon. sounds like I'll have to start saving my money! Thanks--Rob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 64 Wed Sep 22, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:53 EDT CyReL Ambiance Update: We've made a couple of changes and additions to improve the performance and the memory usage when you install the CyReL Ambiance package with the CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 graphics cards. It now uses 0 KB of memory if there is enough room for the background buffer to be stored on THE CARD ITSELF. This maximises your main memory space to be used by your applications. Redraw speeds have been improved dramatically. There is now virtually no difference between the CyReL Ambiance Dual Layer Image Mode and the plain old desktop patterns. (Dual Layer Image Mode: you can specify two image files to be used as a replacement for your desktop background: a) the first image is being used to 'tile' the entire background, the b) second one can be placed centered ontop of the first one to provide a nice focus!) We will U/L a couple of screenshots showing the CyReL Ambiance 'in action'. If you need more informations, please contact CYBERCUBE. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 65 Fri Sep 24, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:37 EDT CyReL M16-1280 and GENEVA: In cooperation with Gribnif, we've started testing GENEVA on our graphics cards. Results have been very encouraging and one of the best effects is that GENEVA actually improves screen redraw times since it apparently performs all it's functions faster than the standard AES. More to follow shortly. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 66 Sun Sep 26, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 13:20 EDT >CyReL M16-1280 and GENEVA: > > In cooperation with Gribnif, we've started testing GENEVA on our > graphics cards. Results have been very encouraging and one of the > best effects is that GENEVA actually improves screen redraw times > since it apparently performs all it's functions faster than the > standard AES. > More to follow shortly. Ralf, Is this testing include Neo Desk? Or does it already work with the card? From some of the posts I've read it seems that to get the most out of Geneva you should also be using Neo Desk. Bob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 67 Mon Sep 27, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:31 EDT Bob, we have not yet completed the GENEVA tests and we definetely will have a look Neo Desk as well. I'll post the results as soon as we are done with it. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 68 Tue Sep 28, 1993 VORTEXT at 00:10 EDT Ralf, Good news on Geneva. I picked up a copy at Glendale, even though I knew it didn't work properly. We tried it on Mario's machine. I had faith that you and the Gribnif folks would work it out. Thanks. I look forward to a patch RSN. Daniel ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 69 Tue Sep 28, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:34 EDT Daniel, install GENEVA as an AUTO folder program for now. It ran smoothly on our system when we installed it as such. Let me know what you find out, OK ? BTW, we've just discussed this issue with Gribnif today and we will iron out any 'leftover' bugs. *,* \_/ Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 70 Thu Sep 30, 1993 S.SAMUELS [ORCA] at 01:02 EDT Ralf, ...while you are at it with 'the card' and Geneva, how 'bout getting your neighbors to put in a fully loaded version of SL (ALL modules, etc) running under Geneva ...along with some of the other old standards like WP, Touch Up, maybe even Avant Vector, etc. and see if you can 'actually' get them all to live together -and- actually multitask, ...ie. not just run by putting other prgs. to sleep. I ask this because I would very much like to have Geneva useable with your card and some of those prgs. BTW, I am a new Cyrel owner via the Glendale show, but haven't sent in the reg. card yet. I will be installing the Cyrel soon, when there is a break in the work flow 'round here. Thanks much, ss ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 71 Thu Sep 30, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 05:45 EDT ORCA, Glad to see you got one too!:-) It only takes a couple minutes to get it up and running. Wait until you see Outline 3 and SL in True Color! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 72 Thu Sep 30, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:28 EDT ORCA, [nice handle BTW]. *,* \_/ But first, welcome to the CyReL topic. We certainly hope you will enjoy discussing the various issues related to the card and that you will also find a bunch of new friends here. About GENEVA & 'the other standard stuff': Sure, let's see how that one will go. What do you think, how much memory should we install? +,< \_/ Seriously, we are conducting all sorts of tests with a number of new Atari applications coming this fall. GENEVA is right on top of our priority list and it looks very good indeed! Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 73 Fri Oct 01, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 10:09 EDT Ralf, please allow me to introduce you to Stephen Samuels, better known as ORCA or the Killer Whale when he wants me to customize Calamus for him. :-) I guarantee he'll enjoy discussing things with you here, based on past experience. In fact, don't encourage him whatever you do. :-) He has a loaded TT that does things that we still cannot believe which I once offered to shoot. Stephen informed me he'd already tried but he has bullet-proof shielding in it. :-) Next time you're by the office, I'll show you some of Stephen's work. He's not bad for a man of his advanced years. Stephen and Daniel (VORTEXT) drove down from the San Francisco area to participate in the Glendale show so Mario and I took off and left them to demonstrate Calamus SL and the Cyrel Sunrise for 2 days. Poor Stephen just couldn't stand to see Daniel with a Cyrel when he didn't have one. It was brutal to see. I'll duck and run now. ;-) Nathan ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 74 Fri Oct 01, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:03 EDT Nathan, thanks for the advice and the insights. /// =.+ \_/ Seems that I also have to thank some of our users for helping out at the show. Thanks guys! I hope you enjoyed it and had a good time. CyReL Ambiance V1.04b is ready: The CyReL Ambiance Desktop Image Manager is ready. Screenshots showing various configurations and modes will be made available for everybody to sample. *,* \_/ CyReL True Color VDI Update: We've rewritten a part of the True Color VDI and completely restructured the memory handler. The new version will be included in the upcoming VDI update and be e-mailed directly to you. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 75 Mon Oct 04, 1993 S.SAMUELS [ORCA] at 04:52 EDT Thanks for the kind words, Ralf ....I assume you already know Nathan very well so I won't introduce him to you as he so sweetly did for me! You can tell he likes me, even if he can't publically admit it. I don't blame him ....Orca's have been known to bite! Nathan knows that this one in particular has eaten enormous quantities of Ice Cream. Anyway.... I expects to get plenty of use with the board and hope the same for Geneva. How much ram? Ewe could put in whatever the current maximum is, of course! At the moment, I have 10 megs ST and 32 TT. If I get richer soon I will go for more TT and wish there was a way to have more ST as well. "What for?", some folks say ....well heck, how 'bout Kodak CD rom hi-rez images for starters? It's not too hard to imagine using more than one in a document is it? %^) 'Matter 'o fact, I right now have two CDK's loaded on the TT and I'm pushing the ram to its limits already. 128, 256 ...yep would be nice if I had more arms and legs to sell. Joey.... yes, yer right. I've seen it already and will be in the market for a 20 inch hi-rez color monitor before long. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 76 Mon Oct 04, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:42 EDT Orca, hmmm... you seem to belong to the 'dangerous' group. Well, we've always played nice here and spoke with lots of kind words, so I hope you won't get bored. /// *.* \_/ CyReL VDI Update: OK folks, now for some good news. I've just got the latest list of squashed bugs and 'added features'. So, here we go: 1. Running GENEVA as a normal desktop program: WORKS! The previous problem has been resolved and GENEVA may now be installed as an AUTO folder program or started whenever necessary. 2. Invision Icon Problems: SOLVED! 3. SpeedoGDOS Font-Chain: OK! Previously it sometimes happened that some of the SpeedoGDOS fonts 'got lost'. This bug has been fixed. 4. Papillon redraw problems: SOLVED! Tested with Papillon 1.1, all functions plus the external modules work as promised. *,* \_/ 5. Damaged 6x6 font: CORRECTED! Some of the older VDI versions had some 'defects' The affected characters 'OPQ' have been corrected. 6. TT Artist color problems: SOLVED! Check this incredible colorful screen saver from Massimo Farina. Use the CyReL Palette Master to set colors 16-255 to a 'RAINBOW' and then watch the stunning graphical effects produced by TT Artist. If you ever wondered how fast our VDI draws some... filled circles, arcs, lines, rounded boxes or more, give it a try! 7. True Color memory allocation problem: SOLVED! Some programs were previously known to 'chew' on the desktop icons in True Color mode. This was a direct result from a corrupted 'linked memory list'. This bug has been fixed now. -phew-, quite a list. We would like to thank everybody involved in the 'debugging' process and we encourage you to keep those bug reports coming. The new VDI version will be in your private mail shortly. So watch your mailbox please! Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 77 Mon Oct 04, 1993 VORTEXT at 23:13 EDT Lookin' good Ralf. I look forward to the changes. I guess I'll have to re- download TT Artist. I had it, but couldn't get it working right so I dumped it. Guess I'll give it another look. Daniel ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 78 Tue Oct 05, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 19:04 EDT >The new VDI version will be in your private > mail shortly. So watch your mailbox please! My Mail box is always open for updates. ((( *.* \_/ Any chance we'll be seeing some Ambiance screen shots shortly too. BTW Ralf, How did you render those great JPG's (M16 V1 & M16 V2) on the CYBERCUBE Catalog Disk. They really look great in 16M colors. Bob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 79 Tue Oct 05, 1993 G.CORRELL [CAMPER] at 21:07 EDT Hi all, I tested GENEVA it seems to work ok in 256 color mode, but NeoDesk does not. If I force Neo to load, it comes up with multi color square blocks where the Icons are located. Another program I am having trouble with is STraight Fax 2.0, when I try to save a fax in ASCII format, the text comes up all garbled. It seems to be the two fonts that ST fax saves with. It will save ASCII files in TT med mode, but not in M16 256 color, or True color mode. ST fax saves great with Calamus SL, First Word, Degas, and IMG. Greg ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 80 Tue Oct 05, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 23:35 EDT Daniel, after testing TT-Artist for the first time on the card, we've been a bit disappointed. But then we've started a lively discussion with Massimo, and he is busy working on a new and improved version. I'll post more as soon as it becomes available. Bob, I really like the new hairstyles you are introducing @@@ *.< \_/ Ambiance screen-shots: they are ready, we've just have to get around to U/L them. Thanks for reminding me. I'll see to it that you guys will have a chance to seem them soon. Rendered images on the CyReL Catalog Disk: They are quite 'old' by now. We've used them as the first test to check the true color capabilities while we were developing the graphics cards. Since we did not have the rendering capabilities on the Atari at the time (quite obvious, isn't it?) we used the excellent shareware ray-tracer VIVID from Stephen Coy. Our many thanks still go to Stephen for this powerful tool and his cooperation! The images were created using hand coded objects, entered with an plain DOS ASCII editor and rendered over a period of 56 hours on a 286 machine. The revised version of the image (now on the Catalog Disk) was remodelled and ray-traced again on a 486 and took approx. 13 hours to complete. The images were rendered with a resolution of 1024x512 to check the higher True Color modes of our cards. There are some more images like those available in the CyReL demo package. Greg, thanks for your bug reports. The best thing I can tell you right now is to check it with the coming version of the drivers. If the errors persist, please contact me immediately. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 81 Wed Oct 06, 1993 S.SAMUELS [ORCA] at 01:35 EDT The following is a reply from Ralf about a question I asked him in email. ...."what do you advise in the way of 19 or 20 inch monitors for use with the Cyrel card?" ...that was the question, here is his reply. (thought other might like it and he gave me permission to post here.) ***************************************************************** Hi Stephen, thanks for your last e-mail and all the kind words. I just hope I can live up to all those expectations. *,< \_/ Customer support is important to us. And we are serious about that. Anybody who claims otherwise either does not know us or does not own a Cybercube product. +.< \_/ Regarding your question about 19" and 20" monitors, here are some thoughts you might want to consider before shopping for your next monitor: There are a great many number of these monitors. They are most of the time VERY good (no matter what brand you look at) and not cheap either. We've seen monitors from Hitachi, Mitsubischi, Taxan, NEC, Idek, Phillips, TTX, Compaq, Toshiba and more. Our decision to buy the Idek 5421 monitors was based on some of the following criteria. There is however no single monitor that we would recommend as the absolute best. Each has it's advantages and defficiencies. Our recommendation: try before you buy! 1. Price: the Idek monitors were VERY competitive. Idek has been producing OEM monitors for years and they had just launched their first monitors under the IDEK banner in North America at the time we were shopping for monitors. 2. NON-GLARE FLAT SQUARE picture tube : and when I say flat, I mean flat. There seems to be quite a difference in opinion between several manufacturers when it comes to flatness. Flat Square technology tubes have the better BEAM FOCUSSING giving a much better and sharper image even in the corners of the display area. Beam focussing makes sure that the electron beam of the tube still resembles a circle and not an oval in the outermost areas of the screen, thus gaining sharpness and color fidelity. All modern high end monitors employ some sort of beam focussing. If someone tells you model xxx does not have it, look for a more suitable model! By no means buy a monitor with that comes without a non-glare picture tube (unless of course you like to see your mirror- image all the time)! Some monitors (like the NEC series) require a front mounted filter to be installed in front of the CRT. The Idek monitors have an etched surface, thus blocking any glare. 3. Convergence: How acurately do the THREE electron beams of a RGB monitor match ? Well, that's what the convergence parameter is for. Ever wondered why letters have a red (or green or blue, or any combination of those) shadow or double image in the border areas of the screen ? This effect happens when one or more of the beams does not hit the tube's surface at their ideal position, thus giving you a slightly shifted second image of the letter (or whatever else is being displayed). 4. 21" and .26 mm dot pitch: When it comes to big screens like 21" tubes, you want to display HIGH resolutions (that is the main reason you want such a beast isn't it ?) But in order to be able to clearly distinguish each single pixel, you must have a tube with a very fine dot pitch. Dot pitch is the distance between two pixel centers on your screen. The smaller this number (mostly given in millimeters) the better. But beware, this is one of the most influential factors on the price of the entire monitor. The finer the dot pitch, the harder it is to produce a flawless tube. A single defect can render the entire tube useless. Until a year or so, a dot pitch of .31 mm was considered to be good. Nowadays, most monitors above 20" have something like .28 mm. The Idek offers .26 mm which gives a very crisp and sharp picture. 5. Bandwidth: I've already discussed this important performance factor in CAT 16, TOP 12. It would be too much to repeat all the deatials again. Please refer to the archive. You should really look for monitors with a bandwith above 80 MHz. 6. Anti-Static tube: Ever noticed the dust and build-up on the display surface of your regular monitor ? Does your monitor make those 'crackling' sounds when you switch it off ? This may indicate the presense of high electrostatic fields. They tend to attract dust which accumulates on the CRT (thus imparing your vision and color perception) and maybe (I am a bit cautious here since this is not 100% scientifically proven) affecting your health as well. The Idek was one of the few (at the time we looked at this) that offered a built-in anti-static feature and therefore the screen stays virtually dust free and you don't run into the danger to get 'zapped' if you touch your monitor. 7. User controls: Believe me, you want a monitor that let's you adjust virtually everything. There is nothing more frustrating than a monitor with controls hidden behind the bezel or somewhere in it's big belly! 8. Connectors: It is usual for the high end monitors to have separate BNC connectors for R,G,B and the sync signals. This type of connector ensures the highest signal fidelity (and is probably the most expesive as well). Don't be shocked to see prices for a 15-pin DSUB cable to BNC ranging from anything like $30 to $100. We however recommend to purchase these type of cables because it does not make sense to buy an expensive high end monitor and then make an attempt to save a few dollars on the manufacturer's recommended cable/cabling material. 9. The Energy-Star symbol: This is something relatively new but we think it will gain momentum and become more and more important in the future. Monitors that display this 'energy saving' symbol (a green star) usually have a built-in 'screen saver' function and switch into 'sleep or stand-by' mode once your screen contents does not change over a certain amount of time. By switching off parts of the monitors electronics and drivers, these devices can achieve some stunning reductions regarding the power consumption. There are monitors that save up to e.g. 60% when in stand-by mode! When you do purchase a new monitor (or any electric/electronic equipment for that fact) now, please consider the advantage of an energy saving device over conventional equipment! OK, if you wish, you might also post this in the CyReL topic for others to enjoy... sorry, it got more elaborate and longer than planned. I hope this answers some of your questions. Ralf. ---------- thanks very much Ralf! I really appreciate the clear detail. Orca ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 82 Wed Oct 06, 1993 ST.LOU [Lou] at 19:47 EDT Wow, thanks Stephen and Ralf. On Monday night I mentioned in the DTP RTC that the best person to ask about monitors would have to be a graphic card engineer. I think people will agree with me after seeing the last post ... ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 83 Wed Oct 06, 1993 D.HELMICK [Dan] at 20:40 EDT Ralf, Will there be a way to configure the VDI to mimic an ST high res screen? I'm finding just about the only program I need to switch to the TT output to run is Cyber Sculpt. Dan ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 84 Wed Oct 06, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 21:06 EDT Stephen, Lou, we've just some hot new details about a newly introduced ViewSonic 21" monitor. The ViewSonic 21 offers 1600x1280, 150 MHz Bandwidth, .25 mm (!) dot pitch and 76 Hz refresh rate at 1280x1024 (!). Check out this monitor if you are serious about high end monitors! Dan, we are preparing something like a small tutorial dealing with the different modes and the emulation of the original Atari video settings. I'll check the status of that documentation and I'll let you know. CyReL Ambiance Screen-Shots: OK, it took a while, but we've just uploaded 4 screen shots depicting some of the modes offered by the CyReL Ambiance Desktop Image Manager. These are 800x608 GIF87a pictures. Unfortunately we couldn't U/L the larger (and more stunning ones) since they take >500 KB. The CyReL Ambiance Desktop Image Manager will automatically adapt to whatever screen resolution or mode you are running in. Present versions are limited to the CyReL M16-1280, but a general version is planned to be released shortly. The price for this amazing package is US $15. For more information, please send e-mail to: CYBERCUBE. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 85 Wed Oct 06, 1993 ST.LOU [Lou] at 21:29 EDT A most interesting and timely development, Ralf. I was in a retail store looking at the Viewsonic 17 a few days ago. It was HIGHLY recommended by the sales staff.... along with a very nice price tag. Is this 21" a new model under development? ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 86 Thu Oct 07, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:13 EDT Hi Lou, as far as I conclude from the material I got, the ViewSonic21 is shipping. You may call Advance Interface Electronic Inc. here in Markham at 905 479 1443 and ask for a dealer near you that might be carrying the ViewSonic21. If you can't get the information, give us a call and we'll try to help you out. And still more monitor news: We've just received some details about 14" and 15" monitor specials from Aamazing. These monitors offer a very competitive price/performance ratio and may represent a good first time buy. Check your local ads for pricing information. TTX has also updated their entire monitor line, which are now offered in a new stylish package. They offer a variety of very affordable 17" monitors. Please consult the MONITORS.DOC list on your CyReL M16 disks. Hitachi just unveiled their new line of high end 21" monitors as well. Seems that every manufacturer is trying to capture a share of this expanding market segment. The SuperScan Elite 21 monitor is the firts in Hitachi's Elite series. It too offers 1600x1200 at a refresh rate of 66 Hz. Refresh rates in general may range from 5 to 150 (!) Hz. The monitor has an advanced flat, square CRT featuring .28 mm dot pitch and Invar mask + AR coating for sharper images and reduced eye-strain. The 31 microprocessor based control funtions allow a maximum configuration comfort. We also got a report from Germany comparing 21 17" monitors from leading manufacturers. If anybody is interested, I'll post an short overview. OK, but first let me get back to my desk tomorrow. We've attended the Canadian High Technology Show and we just went to two seminars today, so there is a pile of paperwork mounting on my workplace. *,* \_/ Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 87 Thu Oct 07, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:30 EDT Hi, almost forgot to tell ya something: For those of you who want to have a quick peek at the capabilities of the new CyReL Ambiance Desktop Image Manager, please D/L the files #30304, #30305, #30306 and #30307 in library 4. The file descriptions give you a small hint regarding the desktop backgrounds, so if you do not want to download it all, check the descriptions first. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 88 Thu Oct 07, 1993 ST.LOU [Lou] at 20:41 EDT Ralf, I would love to see the German review of 21" monitors. Can you please translate it first ? :-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 89 Fri Oct 08, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 03:46 EDT Don't forget the Mitsubishi Diamond Pro monitors.:-) The 17" monitor fits the TT like a glove... and it's crisp. Plus I know it works, which is always a plus when your buying stuff for Atari. If you want to make an IBM/MAC dealer feel funny, ask them if it'll work on an Atari.:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 90 Fri Oct 08, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:21 EDT Lou, I admit it! That numbers game was misleading. What I meant was, that we've got a report comparing twenty-one 17" monitors. *,* \_/ But if you are still interested, I will post a short overview, giving the highlights and things to watch out for. Joey, thanks for reminding me about the Mitsubishi Diamond Pro monitors. They are a very fine example of the kind of 17" monitors that have appeared within the last two years. We've just received another update on the pricing of the TTX monitors. The MSRP ranges from Cdn $360 (14", SVGA) to Cdn $1200 (17",1280x1024@70Hz). Idek also has a number of new 21" monitors, compliant with MPR-II (Low Radiation), 30 min. power down feature, .26 mm dotpitch currently listing for Cdn $2900 to Cdn $4600. Please note that these prices do not include the applicable taxes (Canadian orders). CyReL Serial Mouse Manager and Hotwire, MultiDesk & Maxifile: We have received several reports that the CyReL Mouse Manager causes the machine to lock up under certain conditions when any of the above listed programs are executed. After investigating the cause of these troubles, we've come up with these answers: 1. The Serial Mouse Manager monitors the several vectors to detect the installation of the VDI or any resolution changes. After detecting a re-directed vector, it tries to hook itself into the chain again. This technique has worked fine with a wide number of programs that conform to a documented vector changing procedure generally known as the XBRA protocol. There is no way to predict results or guarantee a trouble free operation if a program does not adhere to said protocol. This is unfortunately the case with all three mentioned applications. 2. There is however a simple 'trick' to remedy this situation. Please re-order your AUTO folder programs in such a way that the CyReL Serial Mouse Manager is located in front of ANY VDI driver you might have in the AUTO folder. 3. This rather surprising solution works even if you skip the installation of the CyReL VDI drivers. Therefore, we would like to recommend the following order of CyReL programs to be used in the AUTO folder: CM16_VIP.PRG SERMOUSE.PRG M16VDI8B.PRG M16VDITC.PRG If you have any additional questions or ideas, please contact us by either posting your message here, or send e-mail to: CYBERCUBE. Have a nice weekend. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 91 Fri Oct 08, 1993 ST.LOU [Lou] at 19:28 EDT Twenty-one 17" monitors??? Please post that review ASAP. Thanks! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 92 Tue Oct 12, 1993 R.STEGELMANN [Rolf] at 02:46 EDT Ralf, Thanks for the info about putting the mouse manager before the video drivers. That fixed the hang problem with LDW Power also. I have a question, is the VDI call vr_trnfm capbable of converting 8 plane standard raster form to the internal device specific M16 video format (256 paletted color)? I think the standard VDI driver only handles up to 4 planes. Has this procedure been enhanced in any way? The reason is I am asking is that I tried to do this the other day and the conversion did not work. If it has not been enhanced then I can understand the results. However if it is supposed to work then either I am doing something wrong or there is a bug in vr_trnfm. Rolf ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 93 Tue Oct 12, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:24 EDT Lou, yep, twenty one of them... OK, I'll try to compile a list with the most interesting features and post them here. Rolf, the vr_trnfm routine has been implemented differently in the 256 color VDI and the True Color VDI. In the following I will concentrate on the 256 color version since this is the most commonly used mode. The vr_trnfm in the M16VDI8B (CyReL M16 VDI, 256 colors/8bit) can convert 1-8 planes of device independent rasters to device dependent rasters. To accelerate the conversion, we recommend that the source and destination are located at different areas in memory. It can also convert the device dependent format into 8 plane device independent format. Once again, use different areas for source and destination to speed up the conversion. If you think you found a bug in those (rather complex) conversion routines, please send me the part of your source that deals with this routine so that we can check the cause of the problem. I am glad to hear that you have been able to solve the LDW Power problem as well. It has really turned out to be a catch-22 situation, either have a real 'resident' mouse driver or have a more compatible driver. Fortunately, the 'trick' with the AUTO folder sort works in both situations! VidiMix16: The VidiMix16 uses the full 32-bit per pixel in True Color Mode. Although you could use the VDI function to convert the incoming video data to device independent format, we would recommend a faster way to do this. We have a couple of small utilities that allow you to record a live video clip in realtime (e.g. 768x576) at different frame rates, store it in internal memory and then play it back again. The realtime True Color digitizer either produces 8bit indexed greyscale, various YUV formats (16/24bit) and 24bit RGB with Alpha channel information. The alpha channel information can be used to create chroma keying effects. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 94 Wed Oct 13, 1993 R.STEGELMANN [Rolf] at 02:51 EDT Ralf Thanks for the quick response. According to your explanation it seems like the vr_trnfm should work. I am attempting to convert a 8 plane device independent raster form to the device dependent format (same number of planes). I am using different input and output areas. I will investigate further and let you know through E-mail. It might be my problem. I just needed to get corroboration from you that the vr_trnfm will work with 8 bit planes. Rolf ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 95 Wed Oct 13, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 04:30 EDT What can you tell us about the VidiMix16's release? Is it coming along nicely, few problems, expect it shortly, anything like that?:-) No, I'm not anxious to get one or anything.:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 96 Wed Oct 13, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 05:45 EDT Rolf, I know when I started doing this stuff it didn't work like I expected. I'm using GFA and only doing one scanline at a time to save memory because it's an ACC. I think I moved the screen image to a source buffer, transformed the image to a destination buffer with the the source set to ST and the Destination set to GEM. Then you have to take the GEM Destination buffer and interleave it. The buffer holds the screen in seperated planes. Anyway, I got it working, it's not too hard.:-) I guess the procedure would be the reverse for displaying an Image. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 97 Wed Oct 13, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:07 EDT Rolf, the vr_trnfm command is being widely used by such programs as GEM-View, Papillon, 1stView etc... programs that have to convert graphics back and forth a lot. If you find any errors in this code, please let us know. We would appreciate any input on how we can improve the performance, should you find any bugs. Joey, you will find a lot of details about the VidiMix16 in the upcoming press releases. Sorry, I won't spoil the surprise right now... *,* \_/ CyReL Ambiance 1.08b: The CyReL Ambiance Desktop Image Manager has been extended and updated to provide a more flexible control over it's features even when you make extensive use of program lauchers, shells and alternate desktops. CyReL Serial Mouse Release 1.03c: The Serial Mouse Manager has been updated. We've optimised a few internal things and changed the SERMOUSE.PRG detection routine. When you boot your system with the release 1.02c (or earlier) and you do not have the SERMOUSE.PRG program activated in your AUTO folder, the accessory will report that the SERMOUSE.PRG program has not been installed. Which was and is correct, but if you subsequently installed the SERMOUSE.PRG by simply executing it, the accessory would continue to report that the SERMOUSE.PRG driver is missing, which obviously is incorrect. Release 1.03c will now correctly detect the SERMOUSE.PRG even if you decide to run it from the desktop (as oposed to the AUTO folder technique). CyReL True Color VDI Update: The blitting speed of the line drawing code in the True Color VDI has once again been updated and improved. Also, the previous bug in the patterned vertical lines (define a clip on an image in GEM-View to watch the effect... the vertical lines will simply change to a solid black line after a short while...) has been fixed. Monitor and CD-ROM Specials from Hitachi: Hitachi is now offering special deals on it's CM1582 (15" SVGA) and CM1785ME (17" SVGA, up to 1280x1024). Check your local Hitachi dealer for pricing information. Hitachi also introduced a new line of XA compatible CD-ROM drives, single speed and double speed under the CDR1850, CDR1900, CDR6700 and CDR6750 labels. The CDR1850 (external) and the CDR6750 (internal) are ready-to-use SCSI drives. For more info, please contact Hitachi at (201) 573-0774 (East Coast) and (510) 785-9770 (West Coast). If you have any interesting information about monitors, video, graphics hardware or imaging related products, why not share it with us? Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 98 Wed Oct 13, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 21:00 EDT Hi again, I've just received some information about VGA switch boxes and cables from Norm and John (thanks guys!), so here it is: Monitor switch box #DS-HD2 for $16 can be purchased from: Roger's Specialities, 27712 Pinehill Avenue, Santa Clarita, CA 91351, Tel. (805) 251-3085, outside CA 1-800-366-0579 John also mentioned that there are a couple of companies advertising such devices in Computer Shopper. Here a few of the names and tel. #'s he found: Accessory Connection (512) 416-5750 $9.99 Computer Gate (408) 730-0673 $9.95 Cables To Go (800) 225-8646 $14.95 Oscar International (909) 595-0339 $8.50 Please check whether you need a box with DB9 or DB15 connectors, the CyReL graphics card has a DB15 (standard VGA) connector. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 99 Fri Oct 15, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:49 EDT CyReL VDI Update 10/93 is out! The CyReL VDI Update 10/93 has been sent out to all our CyReL M16-1280 customers. GEnie subscribers may receive their copy via private e-mail. If you do not have received your copy, and you would like to be included on the list, please send e-mail to CYBERCUBE. Equinox -the official CyReL Support BBS- goes multi-node! Due to the increased demand and usage, the Equinox BBS has once again been expanded. Please note that the area code for the BBS has also changed. Effective immediately, the BBS number is (905) 882 5895. ViewSonic drops monitor prices: ViewSonic has reduced the pricing of it's ViewSonic 15 monitor. This monitor offers power savings management, .27 mm dot pitch, max. 1280x1024 NI, dynamic focus gun and anti-glare coating. See your local dealer for more informations. OK, guys, that's it for this week. Should you find any bugs in the new VDI release, please report them to CYBERCUBE. Thanks, and have a nice weekend. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 100 Mon Oct 18, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:30 EDT CyReL Catalog Disk 10/93 issue shipping: If you have not yet had a chance to sample our CyReL Catalog Disk, there now is an even better reason to do so. The new 10/93 issue with the most current updates and specials is shipping. Cost: US $5 The fee for the catalog can be deducted from your next order. GENEVA 1.01 runs We have just received GENEVA 1.01 from Gribnif and tested it on the card. So far, we have not found any problems or sore spots. Next, we will check NEODESK 3... Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 101 Thu Oct 21, 1993 R.STEGELMANN [Rolf] at 00:46 EDT Joey, Ralf I got vr_trnfm working yesterday. In setting up vr_trnfm I made a dumb mistake. I set the fd_wdwidth in the MFDB to a byte form width rather than a word width. I looked at the code for a long time and did not see the obvious (had a blind spot). Rolf ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 102 Thu Oct 21, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 03:19 EDT Rolf, It's always the stupid mistakes that cause the most trouble.:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 103 Thu Oct 21, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:03 EDT Rolf, I am glad you found the culprit. I cannot count the endless occasions anymore at which we have sat for hours looking at perfectly good code... missing the real bug just by a few lines... !!! ^,< \_/ Next, two new *.VTG (video timing files) updates: Please capture the following two messages and delete any header lines in order to extract the *.VTG informations. Once you restored this straight ASCII files, copy them into the \256COLOR\ folder on your HD. WARNING: Please do not use these VTG files UNLESS you have a proper monitor. Always refer to the documentation of your monitor to find out if the use of the according VTG file is safe. You can easily determine this by checking the title line in each file, since it lists the maximum frequencies generated by the CyReL M16-1280 graphics card. Example: Let's assume you would like to use the new H1282x1K.VTG (high refresh, 1280x1024, second revision VTG file) listed below. First, the name of the file indicates that your monitor must at least be able to handle the 1280x1024 resolution. If your monitor specifications do not go that high, do _NOT_ use this file! Next, let's have a look at the title line: it states that the timings for this mode will give you a 1280x1024 resolution at 70 Hz. So, please check whether your monitor can handle 70Hz. If not, please do _NOT_ use this file. OK, now check the important horizontal line frequency! The file below will give you: 1280x1024 @ 70 Hz with a horizontal scanning rate of 72.4 kHz. Again, check your monitor documentation to see whether it supports such a high horizontal frequency! If not, please do _NOT_ use this file. The same is true for the second (H1Kx768.VTG) file following this message. Please report any problems to CYBERCUBE. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 104 Thu Oct 21, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:06 EDT Capture this message, cut along the dotted lines and name the resulting file H1282x1K.VTG and place it in the \XCHANGE\256COLOR\ folder. ........................................................ ; M16-1280 G300 Parameter file Version 1.1a ; #ID M16-1280 G300 VTG #TITLE 1280x1024@114MHz,70Hz,72.4kHz,256col NI #MONITOR_NAME IDEK-5421/M-SYNC #MONITOR_BANDWIDTH 120 ;monitor bandwidth in MHz #MIN_HORIZONTAL_FREQ 30000 ;in Hz #MAX_HORIZONTAL_FREQ 80000 ;in Hz #MIN_VERTICAL_FREQ 50 ;in Hz #MAX_VERTICAL_FREQ 90 ;in Hz #MAX_HORZ_RES_NON_INTERL 1600 ;Pixels/Line #MAX_VERT_RES_NON_INTERL 1280 ;Lines/Frame #MAX_HORZ_RES_INTERLACED 1600 ;Pixels/Line #MAX_VERT_RES_INTERLACED 1280 ;Lines/Frame ; #FREQUENCY_SELECT $000002 ;frequency synthesizer=14 MHz #CONTROL_REGISTER1 $170038 ;g300 control register value #CONTROL_REGISTER2 $000000 ;not available for G300 #BOOT_LOCATION $000028 ;PLL in use (114 MHz) #MASK_REGISTER $0000ff ;pixel mask ; #HORIZONTAL_SYNC $000012 ;horizontal sync (4DU) #BACK_PORCH $000020 ;backporch (4DU) #DISPLAY $000140 ;display (4DU even) #SHORT_DISPLAY $000079 ;short display (4DU) #BROAD_PULSE $0000bd ;broad pulse (4DU) #VERTICAL_SYNC $000006 ;vertical sync (L) #VS_PRE_EQUALISE $000006 ;same as VSYNC #VS_POST_EQUALISE $000006 ;same as VSYNC #VERTICAL_BLANKING $000034 ;vertical blanking (L) #VERTICAL_DISPLAY $000800 ;vertical display (L even) #LINE_TIME $00018e ;total linetime (4DU even) #TOP_OF_SCREEN $000000 ;top of screen (A even) #MEMORY_INIT $0001e8 ;memory init (DU) #TRANSFER_DELAY $000018 ;transfer delay (DU) ; #END ............................................. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 105 Thu Oct 21, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:08 EDT Capture this message, cut along the dotted lines and name the resulting file H1Kx768.VTG and place it in the \XCHANGE\256COLOR\ folder. ............................................................ ; M16-1280 G300 Parameter file Version 1.1a ; #ID M16-1280 G300 VTG #TITLE 1024x768@99MHz,88Hz,70kHz,256 Colors NI #MONITOR_NAME IDEK-5421/M-SYNC #MONITOR_BANDWIDTH 120 ;monitor bandwidth in MHz #MIN_HORIZONTAL_FREQ 30000 ;in Hz #MAX_HORIZONTAL_FREQ 80000 ;in Hz #MIN_VERTICAL_FREQ 50 ;in Hz #MAX_VERTICAL_FREQ 90 ;in Hz #MAX_HORZ_RES_NON_INTERL 1600 ;Pixels/Line #MAX_VERT_RES_NON_INTERL 1280 ;Lines/Frame #MAX_HORZ_RES_INTERLACED 1600 ;Pixels/Line #MAX_VERT_RES_INTERLACED 1280 ;Lines/Frame ; #FREQUENCY_SELECT $000002 ;frequency synthesizer=14 MHz #CONTROL_REGISTER1 $970038 ;g300 control register value #CONTROL_REGISTER2 $000000 ;not available for G300 #BOOT_LOCATION $000027 ;PLL in use (99 MHz) #MASK_REGISTER $0000ff ;pixel mask ; #HORIZONTAL_SYNC $000016 ;horizontal sync (4DU) #BACK_PORCH $000028 ;backporch (4DU) #DISPLAY $000100 ;display (4DU even) #SHORT_DISPLAY $000050 ;short display (4DU) #BROAD_PULSE $0000a0 ;broad pulse (4DU) #VERTICAL_SYNC $000006 ;vertical sync (lines) #VS_PRE_EQUALISE $000006 ;same as VSYNC #VS_POST_EQUALISE $000006 ;same as VSYNC #VERTICAL_BLANKING $000038 ;vertical blanking (L) #VERTICAL_DISPLAY $000600 ;vertical display (L even) #LINE_TIME $000166 ;total linetime (4DU even) #TOP_OF_SCREEN $000000 ;top of screen (A even) #MEMORY_INIT $0001e9 ;memory init (DU) #TRANSFER_DELAY $000017 ;transfer delay (DU) ; #END ...................................... ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 106 Tue Oct 26, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:37 EDT CyReL Ambiance Update available: There is a new version of the CyReL Ambiance Desktop Image Manager available for the M16-1280 graphics cards. This new release features an extended set of parameters and configurations and now supports the CyReL Palette Master *.INF files as well. For more information, please send e-mail to CYBERCUBE. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 107 Wed Oct 27, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:29 EDT InShape Modeler&Shader now in Cat 7, Topic 41: Cybercube has started distributing the InShape Modeler&Shader in North America. For more informations, please read the press releases (#30512 and #30513) and visit our new topic. CyReL Ambiance Images&Clips Disk available: Here is an easy way to enrich your desktop. Install the CyReL Ambiance Desktop Image Manager and browse through the numerous images and clips on our new Images&Clips collection disk #1. You will find everything you need from traditional patterns to wild new designs. Add some atmosphere, create a new ambiance. For more information, please send e-mail to: CYBERCUBE. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 108 Thu Oct 28, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:28 EDT CTX offers BBS support for existing and prospective customers alike: CTX manufactures a highly successful line of 14"-17" monitors and now offers a toll free info line (1-800-888-2012) as well as a BBS system to provide customer support and technical specifications at (909) 594-8973. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 109 Fri Oct 29, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:45 EDT CyReL XChange is being extended: For all those of you who have any new and intersting ideas that they would like to see implemented in the all new XChange utility, please forward these ideas to CYBERCUBE. The new CyReL XChange will combine the VTG timing editor, file browser, rez preset selector and resolution changer into a more efficient utility using the CyReL 3D style user interface first used in the CyReL Ambiance Desktop Image Manager. Have a nice weekend & HALOWEEN... Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 110 Sat Oct 30, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 03:58 EDT Ralf, I only need two things. The ability to make my own monitor drivers and the ability to pick any res at boot time. Anything after that would be a huge bonus!:-) Sounds like your on the right track already! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 111 Mon Nov 01, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:36 EST Joey, yep. We finally came around to upgrade and 'modernize' the whole resolution changing stuff & bits & pieces... since these are by far the 'oldest' parts of the CyReL utilities. UPGRADE NOTICE: All new CyReL SUNRISE M16-1280 boards now ship with almost 5 MB of data and software. If you would like us to update your personal copy of your disks, please send $8 and 4 HD (or 8 DD) disks to: Cybercube Research Ltd, 126 Grenadier Cr., Thornhill, ON L4J 7V7, Canada The new CyReL M16-1280 software package consists of: RUN ME FIRST disk M16 Drivers & Utilities disk GEM-View disk (latest release) CyReL Catalog Disk CyReL Ambiance disk ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 112 Wed Nov 03, 1993 AEO.7 [Gregg] at 23:09 EST So what's the current GEM-View registration process? how much and to who? Gregg ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 113 Thu Nov 04, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 10:19 EST Please go over to Category 7, topic 33 and ask there, Gregg. :-) That is the GEM-View topic. Thanks. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 114 Thu Nov 04, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:52 EST Gregg, thanks for stopping by. Yes, we handle the GEM-View registration, but let's discuss this in the GEM-View dedicated topic (CAT 7,TOP 33). OK? COMPO/EURO SOFT's STUDIO PHOTO tested on the CyReL M16-1280: We've just completed our tests of this fast, new retouching program. The clear and very technical manual helps you to quickly learn the amazing array of manipulation tools that this program offers. We have tested Studio Photo in various resolutions in 256 color and True Color modes. It ran flawless. For the True Color mode, we recommend that you run the TC_SHIFT.PRG (to be found in the \MISC\ folder of your M16 Drivers & Utilities disk) before starting Studio Photo. The program works with SEF,TIFF,GIF,TGA,PCX,IFF,DEGAS,NEO,JPEG and PHOTO CD images. It is rather quick when loading and processing the image files. Studio Photo really shines when it comes to filter/convolution functions, rotating (even at very odd angles) and scaling. Some of the most widely used touch-up functions are performed with refreshing speeds. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 115 Fri Nov 05, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:13 EST New DAEWOO monitor line-up: Daewoo is stepping up the promotional campaign to market its new line of monitors. There are two multi-frequency models in the 14" range: CMC-1418S and CMC-1414V. Both offer refresh rates They all offer refresh rates ranging from 50-90 Hz ranging from 50-90 Hz. Basic difference is the bandwith at 40 MHz and 65 MHz respectively. Complementing these two models, there are 4 auto scan models named CMC-1414BA (14", 1024x768), CMC-1501BA (15",1024x768) and the CMC-1701ME (17",1280x1024) & CMC-2102 (21",1600x1280) The 14" model offers 70MHz, the 15" 75 MHz and the 17" & 21" offer 140 MHz bandwith. The 15" to 21" models also come with MPRII low radiation. For more information, please contact your local DAEWOO dealer or DAEWOO directly. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 116 Sun Nov 07, 1993 AEO.7 [Gregg] at 19:26 EST Daewoo? In the hills of Western North Carolina???? You gotta be kidding me Ralf .... Seriously... How good are they? I've been reading up on large monitors (needed to do a graphics boad like the SunRise, Nova, and CDots justice) but ALL are so far outside my budget it's funny. Plus.... the few I 'might' be able to afford tend to be rather badly slammed when reviewed by the DOS world magazines like PC.... They did seem to like one of the 17" AOC monitors though.... Daewoo... that's one of the Korean companies isn't it? Gregg > ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 117 Mon Nov 08, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:12 EST Gregg, yep, you are right. Daewoo has been around for quite some time. It is getting increasingly difficult to make out which monitors are the 'originals' and which ones are OEM products. We've just seen an 'explosion' of the number of monitor manufacturers and offers (e.g. in the ASIAN BUYER'S GUIDE) since Windows has become more and more popular (fueling the demand for higher quality monitors). A few years ago text and mono only monitors were the _STANDARD_, systems equipped with an color graphics monitor a rare exception. This has changed dramatically and all manufacturers are scrambling to satisfy the demand for higher performance display devices (not only monitors in the traditional sense... just look at the advances that LCD screens have made over the past 12 months). Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 118 Wed Nov 10, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:34 EST CyReL Ambiance configuration bug: A rather annoying bug has been detected in the CyReL Ambiance Desktop Image Manager utility (Releases <1.8). This bug causes a lot of confusion if you boot your machine with the wrong IMAGE and CLIP path settings. To get the present versions to work, use an ASCII editor to manually change the path and file names to some more appropriate settings, then save the AMBIANCE.INF file again and reboot. All affected customers will get a new version shortly. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 119 Thu Nov 11, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 00:15 EST Yippee, I got my Cyrel Card today. Is there anyway to choose different fonts? ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 120 Thu Nov 11, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 04:56 EST Spud Boy, Did you get GEMview and some Jaguar photo's yet?:-) GEMview is must have for Sunrise owners! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 121 Thu Nov 11, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:43 EST Spud Boy, there are some font changer programs available which you might want to try on the card. We are also working on a special setup program which allows you to define a set of OS or system fonts. And by the way, welcome to the CyReL M16-1280 topic! If you have any questions, suggestions or if you would simply like to share your experiences with 'fellow users', please do not hesitate to participate here. <<< *,< \_/ Joey, have you had a chance to look at the rendered CyReL images and the JPEG photographs on the card? Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 122 Thu Nov 11, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 21:34 EST Joey, I sent in for a registered version of Gemview two days ago. I have been using the unregistered version for longer than I want to admit.. After playing with the sunrise card all day I have a couple of questions. I have not quite made it through all of the documents that came with it, but I have gone though the manual. Is there any way to drop down to just 16 colors?? I have a program that will work in STMED, STHIGH, and TTMED only. Since this program is very time- specific, it is very picky on resolution. I am pretty sure that if I could get to a 16 color screen it would run. I am talking about SMPTE Track Platinum. I have tried all of the emulation options in the CONF accessory. Are there any True Color .VTG's that will work on Atari's PTC 1426 monitor? Does anyone here use the VIDI mix 8/16? Ralf, I have been using Warp 9, but it doesn't seem to like the card. Which programs do you recommend? ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 123 Fri Nov 12, 1993 VORTEXT at 01:36 EST Ralf, The bug fix worked, of course, and now I can use Ambiance. One more little problem. Seems that the last item to be loaded in my system is the palette as used by the M16 Palette Master. What this does is to then rewrite the palette of whatever I'm using in Ambiance. I have saved the palette for Ambiance so this does not happen, for now. Perhaps there is a way to fix this? Daniel Spud Boy, The only solution I have to you problem is the one I use. I have a switch box set up to my monitor that allows me to switch between the Cyrel video out and the Normal TT video out. I also use XBoot to set the drivers for the card off or on, thereby using my TT with or without it. there are several programs I have that don't like the Cyrel card still. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 124 Fri Nov 12, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 04:31 EST Spud Boy, I've never seen a 16 color mode.:-) I know you can get the M16- VME Expansion Option that will give you a large fully Atari emulated Mono Screen though. Anything should run on it. As far as the PTC drivers they begin with an A in the name. There's True Color and 256 Color Drivers. I also used GEMview for an overly extended period but I just now registered!:-) I second the switch box suggestion! Ralf, Yeap sure did! They look great! I especially like the one with the sky reflecting in about 10 different Spheres all different colors. It's incredible! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 125 Sat Nov 13, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 00:26 EST Vortext, Where did you get the switch box? I have noticed that the key repeat rates seem to be different (longer). Am I dreaming or does the video card's software cause this? I had to speed them up in the CPX. Not that this is a problem, but I have been using Atari's for 7 years and have never adjusted that before. I did find those true color VTG files. I just had to look at the file names a little closer. duh It is odd that it can't drop down to 16 colors. The feature list I have says it will work in monochrome, 4, 16, 256, and True color without hardware modifications or expansions. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 126 Sat Nov 13, 1993 D.HELMICK [Dan] at 18:29 EST Can anybody offer tricks for using Studio Photo: The Demo in True Color mode? Whenever I load a JPEG image, it comes out completely green...and alerts or dialogue boxes leave behind tinted ghosts on the image. Dan ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 127 Sat Nov 13, 1993 VORTEXT at 20:41 EST Spud Boy, I got my switch box from my local dealer, ATY Computer in Oakland, Ca. 510-482- 3775. It's just a simple A-B data switch box. Should be able to find them almost anywhere. Even normal computer stores. Just tell them you're looking for a box to switch between VGA monitors. Daniel BTW - It sure beats having to plug and unplug all the time. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 128 Sun Nov 14, 1993 D.HELMICK [Dan] at 03:38 EST Aha, just awoke with a revelation--run TC_SHIFT.PRG before using Studio Paint in True Color mode. Works just fine. Dan ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 129 Mon Nov 15, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:21 EST Spud Boy, I've posted some addresses and sources for switch-boxes somewhat 'earlier' in this topic. If you are still looking for one, please go back a few messages... Key repeat rate: well, we affect a number of things with our software, but this is the first time I heard of this effect. *grin*, no seriously, we do not change or influence the key repeat rate. But speeding it up by a little bit never hurts and many find that they suddenly got a 'faster machine' because the system seems to respond that much faster... *,< \_/ 16 color mode: The majority of users buy the CyReL M16-1280 for either 256 color or True Color applications. A 16 color VDI driver has been in the worx, but was scrapped due to lack of demand. So far, we offer a monochrome VDI driver (the MonoFLEX with the CyReL MPT-16 module), a 256 color VDI driver and a True Color VDI driver. The card/hardware works in all of these modes you listed. Studio Photo Demo: Yep, you are right. Sorry, the new versions of the M16-1280 software contains a small file with some hints and tips regarding Studio Photo and other programs. The TC_SHIFT.PRG program simply 'tells' the card to emulate the aRGB mode (as used by the MATRIX cards). CyReL CaTTamaran gives the CyReL M16-1280 an extra boost: Another Cybercube product, the CyReL CaTTamaran TT accelerator module has been enhanced to include a TurboVME feature. This additional function increases the speed of all VME bus cycles and thus helps to speed up the CyReL M16-1280 graphics cards as well. The functions have not been fully tested yet, but a sustained 33% increase of speed has been recorded so far. To what extend this feature will be included in the final version has not been confirmed yet. NEC announces new 'entry level' monitor series: Quote: 'Designed to sell like the proverbial hotcake, these monitors have it all...' NEC introduced some new monitors, the NEC SVGA and NEC MultiSync (registered trademark of NEC Technologies Inc) V series. They offer bright and sharp screen images, non-glare display, up-front controls and MPRII compliance. This surely seems to be an excellent opportunity to check out your nearest NEC dealer to see for yourself the quality and well deserved reputation NEC monitors have become known for. For more information,call 1-800-NEC-INFO! Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 130 Tue Nov 16, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 20:11 EST Ralf, When can we expect to see the Cattamaran TT accelerator for sale. I NEED to go faster . Too bad on the 16 colro VDI. I would love to have been able to drop down to 16 colos so I could maintain compatiblity with my music software. I will have to get a switch box I guess. At least that ay I am 100% compatible, I guess. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 131 Wed Nov 17, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:48 EST Spud Boy, there is no such thing as a computer that runs to fast. *grin* You can always find ways of slowing down the system so much that you have too much time wondering what is actually going on. Quite obvious, or not? If it would go faster, you would be too busy to keep up with it. >>> *,* \_/ The CyReL CaTTamaran is going through some extensive testing right now. We always make sure that our products are sound and offer the best quality. Believe me, we are anxious to announce the availability and we will do so once we are satisfied with the performance, ease of installation and reliability. 16 Color VDI: We've never claimed to be 100% compatible. We do our best to insure that you can run the widest variety of programs possible on our cards. And who said that there will never be a 16 color VDI? *grin* Switch-box: Have you been able to find the addresses of those suppliers I mentioned? Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 132 Thu Nov 18, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 18:51 EST Ralf, I got my switchbox and some cables. The wierd thing is that when I hooked it all up, the VIP program could not find the card anymore. After much troubleshooting, with no improvement, I decided to change the jumpers on the card. This worked and now the card is working again. Strange, huh. I still vote for the 16 color VDI. I think it would add more comapitbility. What is the deal with the magic keys thing? I saw the .INF file and it looks like I can switch resolutions by hitting ALT 1-2-3. How do I set up the resolutions I want? I could not find out the specifics in any of the docs. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 133 Thu Nov 18, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:05 EST Spud Boy, you are right about the ALT-1-2-3 procedure. The MagiKeys program will be available shortly free of charge to all CyReL M16-1280 customers. New CyReL M16-1280 User's Reference Manual Update available: All CyReL M16-1280 orders shipped after Nov. 15th come complete with a new revised and updated version of the CyReL M16-1280 User's Reference Manual. If you would like to order this spiral bound, 36 page, letter-sized, spiral bound manual with plastic, see-through cover, please send US $15 to: Cybercube Research Ltd., 126 Grenadier Crescent, Thornhill, Ontario, L4J 7V7, Canada. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 134 Thu Nov 18, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:11 EST Mitsubishi unveils new line of FLAT SCREEN Technology Monitors: Mitsubishi is proud to announce the introduction of their new Diamond Scan 15FS (15" flat screen, 1024x768 NI @ 72 Hz, .28 mm dot pitch and MPR II compliant) monitor as well as the new high end Diamond Pro 21FS (21" flat screen, 1600x1280, .28 mm dot pitch, 130 MHz bandwidth) model. Mitsubishi has new lowest priced, entry level 14" SVGA monitor: If you are looking for a good deal, check out Mitsubishi's best selling display monitor called Diamond Pro SVGA. It offers 1024x768 I and 800x600 NI with a dot pitch of .28 mm and auto scan capabilities. The Diamond Pro SVGA (complete with VGA cable) has a SRP of Cdn $499! For more information, please contact your nearest Mitsubishi Dealer. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 135 Fri Nov 19, 1993 R.STEGELMANN [Rolf] at 05:38 EST Ralf, How can I get a copy of the TC_SHIFT.PRG? Did not get it on my original disk. Rolf ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 136 Fri Nov 19, 1993 VORTEXT at 09:54 EST I too do not have the TC_SHIFT.PRG. It might help me a bit. A note on Ambiance. It would seem that Ambiance and the Pallet master acc don't agree on color. Ambiance loads in its pictures then Pallet master scrambles the colors to its own taste. I've tried saving the the Ambiance pallet as the startup.pal, but for some reason I can't get the acc to save a pallet. Hmmm. Also, when using Flash II from Missionware, upon exit from the program the screen only redraws the bottom half of the picture, leaving a white background on the upper half. All icons and the menu bar are present however. Re-entering Ambiance and exiting causes a redraw and all is well again. Daniel ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 137 Fri Nov 19, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:26 EST Rolf, Daniel, I will U/L the TC_SHIFT files here on GEnie for you to download them. They are not very large (probably less than 10K compressed). The archive contains the driver and the necessary documentation. So watch those U/L listings for the TC_SHIFT.ZIP file! CyReL Ambiance & CyReL Palette Master: Have a look at the options page in your Ambiance accessory. Make sure the SysColor box is _NOT_ checked! (This tells the system that Ambiance will have control over the color palette). Set Ambiance to work in the PALETTE, FADED mode! Next, save the AMBIANCE.INF file. If you now display the PAL_MSTR.INF file (boot drive, root directory) you should see that the CyReL Palette Master command DEF_PALETTE has been changed to #DIS_PALETTE! Ergo, the CyReL Palette Master will _NOT_ attempt to load it's onw colors next time you boot. We will change this procedure so that you are not forced anymore to set the PALETTE, FADED mode. The SysColor box should be sufficient to enable/disable the #DEF_PALETTE command from the Palette Master utility. *,* \_/ Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 138 Fri Nov 19, 1993 L.BUDNICK [Lorne] at 21:37 EST Ralf, Is there a recent software compatibility list available here or in the libraries for the Sunrise M16-1280? Thanks in advance! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 139 Sun Nov 21, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 00:15 EST Ralf, Wow! I just got an NEC 4FGe multisync monitor. Which driver is best suited to run this monitor? Are there any guides that we can get to make our own drivers? Or could you make a custom one for this monitor if I provide the specs? ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 140 Sun Nov 21, 1993 VORTEXT at 20:37 EST The SysColor box is not checked. If I use the palette faded mode, all I get is a bunch of colored lines. I prefer the picture. What I can't seem to figure out is, what is different in my system that prevents me from saving a new startup.pal. It used to work. But a few days ago I had a hard drive problem, (No, I don't care to talk about it ! ) and now it's acting up. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 141 Mon Nov 22, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 21:07 EST Lorne, recent compatibility list: Hmmm... *grin* I have to admit that we haven't updated that list for quite a while and thus it would be a rather lengthy process to do so. But we can try to do our best and add some of the more recent test results we've conducted here. From time to time I've also posted some of the compatibility test results in this topic. Maybe you should have a look at the transcript of this topic ... or even scan through some of the last messages. But maybe we should also take this opportunity to ask some of our CyReL M16-1280 user's about their experiences and their test results. *,* \_/ Tim, to find out which of the predefined modes will run on your monitor, check your monitor manual and try to locate the max. horizontal and max. vertical frequencies for your model. Then, have a look at the *.VTG files. There is a title line in each of them that actually tells you about the used frequencies, thus giving you a pretty good indication if it will run on your monitor or not.... better if it would be safe! Please keep in mind that the max. limits of your monitor have been included in your manual to actually guide you as to what may be advisable and what not. Staying within those limits will guarantee you a 'healthy' monitor. *,* \_/ VORTEXT, yep, those colored bands are right. When you select those, open the Palette Master, then select one of the supplied AMBxxx.PAL or create your own color fading _WITH_ the help of the Palette Master. As for the other problem you reported, have a look at some of the last messages, where I explained the procedure to get it to work properly. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 142 Tue Nov 23, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:54 EST CyReL VidiMix16 Update: The development and testing of the CyReL VidiMix16 Desktop Video Module has been extended to explore the possibilities of adding SMPTE time code capabilities to the hardware. This feature would allow a seamless integration of time coded material, provide better control for the sequencing of output clips and improve the output precision when working with single frame recorders. The new VidiMix16 will have an external connector box to accomodate the expanded # of input ports (total of 8), and the two output ports. For more information, send e-mail to: CYBERCUBE Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 143 Tue Nov 23, 1993 L.BUDNICK [Lorne] at 22:20 EST Ralf, Thanks for the reply. Maybe I will ask my question in a different way. If I have a program that will not function in the higher resolutions or with numbers of colors greater than 16, would I be able to run this program without disconnecting the monitor from the Cyrel card? In other words, would I be able to effectively run TT med rez through the card, thus making it possible to run the program that works in that rez without the card, usable through the card? Hopefully this is clear??? (as mud) :^) BTW, did you get my EMail, and if so, can I expect a response. Thanks in advance, Lorne Tuesday November 23, 1993 08:23:44 p.m. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 144 Tue Nov 23, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 23:37 EST Ralf, THe NEC 4FGe is a wonderful monitor to use with the Cyrel card. I am currently using the 1Kx768.VTG driver for the IDEK 5421 monitor. That driver says it has a bandwith of 120 MHz. However, my monitor only has a 80 MHz bandwith. Does this matter? Also is there any guidance on programming a custom driver? It seems like it would not be that hard. I just don't know what value all of the entries in the VTG file are looking for. All, If you are looking for a Great monitor for your graphics card, I can highly recommend the NEC 4FGe. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 145 Wed Nov 24, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:31 EST Lorne, we try to answer all e-mail letters (or any requests/suggestions for that matter) we get. And we try to answer them daily from Monday to Friday. If you sent us some e-mail and you didn't get an answer within 3 days, please send a small reminder and we'll try to do our best to provide you with the information you are seeking. For the situation you described I would recommend that you might look for an monitor switchbox. This way you will be assured that when you switch to 16 color TT Medium Mode, you will get 100% 'compatibility' since you are running the original. *grin* This also means that there will be no interference whatsoever by the card. And if you want to use the card again, you simply switch back. Spud Boy, I don't know about the latest state of the new timing editor for the CyReL M16-1280, but I'll check that and let you know. This timing editor makes the adjustments to any new timings a lot simpler and more efficient. If you would like to receive some more information on how to program the CyReL graphics card in general (or just the video resolutions), there is an special 'developers software package' available. Send e-mail to CYBERCUBE for more information. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 146 Wed Nov 24, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:32 EST CyReL TC_SHIFT.ZIP utility package now available on GEnie: The TC_SHIFT archive with the new True Color utilities for your CyReL M16-1280 graphics card are now available on-line. Please look for the TC_SHIFT.ZIP file in the Atari libraries. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 147 Wed Nov 24, 1993 L.BUDNICK [Lorne] at 21:40 EST Ralf, Thanks for the reply. It sounds as though the monitor switch box is the way to go to insure compatibility with all of the software I am currently using. I appreciate this information. RE: EMail - A reminder will be on the way shortly. Thanks again! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 148 Thu Nov 25, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:05 EST Lorne, you are welcome. *,* \_/ If you have any more questions, let's talk about it. TT-Artist & CyReL M16-1280: Massimo Farina's TT-Artist Version 1.15 has been U/Led to the Atari libraries here on GEnie. Version 1.15 features an improved user interface. All dialogs have been placed in windows for better comfort and control. The QUARK module, which previously refused to work properly has been fixed and now runs on the M16-1280 as well. Version 1.16 is due out soon, which will correct some color inconsistencies in True Color. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 149 Thu Nov 25, 1993 AEO.7 [Gregg] at 21:59 EST Ralf, why not ask one of your customers (or whoever) to accept responsibil- ity for compiling whatever list your users input? That way you could ask your customers to Email in what software THEY'VE found works (and what configuration/settings used) on their system. One person could then compile the various lists into a single file for upload here or to you directly. Gregg ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 150 Fri Nov 26, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 05:02 EST Make an Atari Works database of compatible files and their little problems. That would be fairly simple to keep updated. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 151 Fri Nov 26, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 19:09 EST Gregg, Joey, that's a good idea! Thanks for the tip. OK, let's see, who is willing to put in an enourmous amount of extra hours, labour furiously, sweat and crawl until the list is done? /// *,* \_/ We too have a number of files and stuff we haven't made public yet, so the Atari Works database would be a very good idea to pool all the different resources. To make it a little 'sweeter', I would like to offer the 'administrator' of that list a 5% rebate on his next CyReL purchase. So who would like to volunteer? *,< \_/ CyReL VDI update 11/93 is almost done: This time we are concentrating on the text output. We've found a way to increase the speed of the text blitting routines, get rid of some odd GDOS font chain erros that are still lurking deep within the tangled routines, and get rid of some monitoring stuff to further improve throughput. Have a nice weekend! Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 152 Sat Nov 27, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 00:39 EST Ralf, If I had time I'd do it for free but I can't seem to get my own stuff finished.:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 153 Sat Nov 27, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 20:00 EST I would be happy to run the Atari Works Database. What exaclt are we gonna track in it? ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 154 Sun Nov 28, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 03:08 EST Well... if we where really zealious, we would keep track of every developer and their software plus what cards/computers it works on and any problems. You could probably divide the programs into categories and then store the name, version number and if it works. Maybe even have a note on special instructions and hwo to get it to work. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 155 Mon Nov 29, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:49 EST Joey, I certainly know what you mean... *grin* I can't seem to find enough time to do all the stuff I would like to get done every day. Spud Boy, well, basically we want to compile a list of tested programs... and record (in some ingenious way) the results of such tests... like version tested, type of computer it was tested on, which drivers were used etc. Nothing to complicated I hope. *,< \_/ Ralf. PS: We will be holding our first InShape RTC tonight right here on GEnie. Read the ST Roundtable banner for more details. Everyone is welcome! *grin* ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 156 Tue Nov 30, 1993 VORTEXT at 03:33 EST Gee Ralf, did you not get my message a while back that I was in the process of doing such a list as we speak? I've been putting my various software packages through a series of runs and configs and seeing what likes what and gets along with who. I've been taking notes and jotting down version numbers and compiling a list. Should have something to post here pretty soon. Where would ya'll like it? Format? Does everyone have Calamus? I could upload it as a CDK. Or do it as straight ASCII. Daniel ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 157 Tue Nov 30, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 18:57 EST Daniel, sorry, I didn't realize the tremendous work and detail you were putting into this list. We welcome your efforts! Would you like to become the 'official' administrator of that list... and enjoy all the benefits of that new title? *,< \_/ Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 158 Tue Nov 30, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 20:32 EST Daniel, Calamus or Ascii would be fine with me. A soon as we get your post I'm sure we can add to the list. ### o.> @ H When we get to see your format additions can be mae uniform. Bob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 159 Tue Nov 30, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 23:14 EST Ralf, Just tell people where to send to send the info and I will get to work on it. Vortext, No Calamus, just Pagestream. I would prefer and Atari Works format or RTF. Unless you want to do the project. I don't want to move in on your work... ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 160 Wed Dec 01, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 09:55 EST I don't care which format is used personally, as long as it is something that can be imported into Calamus. ;-) Actually, it should probably be a universal format such as ASCII so that everyone can access it regardless of which software they wish to use. For that matter, I imagine it wouldn't be such a big deal to make the finished file available in many different formats. I own just about everyone's software on the Atari platform and would be happy to take the final compilation and save it out in whatever formats we need, including Pagestream. :-) Nathan ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 161 Wed Dec 01, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 23:20 EST Spud Boy, thanks for the info. Well, I think Nathans idea about a general format during the actual compilation process and then many different formats once the list has grown to a certain state is quite interesting. VORTEXT, why don't you continue on your project as well, and then we pool them? We would honor your work as well as Tim's! Nathan, thanks for your offer. I'll remember that! *,< \_/ Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 162 Thu Dec 02, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 04:14 EST Nathan, I just noticed a minor mistake in the topic header! The Sunrise is a 32bit board not 24, stop being so modest.:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 163 Thu Dec 02, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 09:55 EST Oh oh. Did I make a mistake again? Ralf, is the Cyrel Sunrise correctly described as a 24 bit colour card or a 32 bit colour card? ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 164 Thu Dec 02, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 21:58 EST Joey, Nathan, well.... ughh.... hmmm... ohhh.... yep, *grin*. The cards display and work with 24bit of color to produce a max. of 16.7 million color shades... on the other hand, each pixel _IS_ 32 bits wide and supports all those extra goodies like the desktop video functions... and compared to the standard VGA cards, yes, we do have 8bits more thus it's a 32 bit card. *,< \_/ Besides, the entire internal architecture is 32 bits also. *grin* So, what do we do about the topic header? Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 165 Fri Dec 03, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 05:09 EST Ralf, Nathan, :-) Sorry to cause trouble by pointing out the products even better then you thought!:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 166 Fri Dec 03, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 09:54 EST I'd say that the topic title is perfect actually. ;-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 167 Fri Dec 03, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:56 EST Joey, Nathan, as a compromise, we could call it the 24/32bit card. What about that? +,< \_/ Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 168 Sat Dec 04, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 04:24 EST Nathan, Now that I look at it again, it does seem perfect.:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 169 Sun Dec 05, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 01:08 EST Yep, that title fits nicely. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 170 Mon Dec 06, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 00:25 EST Has anyone gotten True Paint to work on the Cyrel Card, yet? I just got it at the Toad Fest...but the colors are screwed up. It seems to just see the 1st 16 colors and ignore the rest in True Color modes. However, it seems to work fine in 256 color mode. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 171 Mon Dec 06, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 01:24 EST Spud Boy, I don't think it works in True Color just yet. Not positive but a while back they mentioned the next version might. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 172 Thu Dec 09, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 09:16 EST Effective immediately, the Cyrel Sunrise M16-1280 has a new price of US $995.00 or $1,295.00 CDN. In an unprecedented move, Cybercube Research has been able to respond to the needs of the Atari market by this major price reduction. 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(905) 479 1880 Fax (905) 479 1882 or Cybercube Research Limited 126 Grenadier Crescent Thornhill, ON, L4J 7V7, Canada Tel. (905) 882 0294 Fax (905) 886 3261 Dealer enquiries welcome ---- Uploaded on behalf of Ralf Doewich, Cybercube Research Limited. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 175 Sat Dec 11, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 06:25 EST ...and it's 32bit!:-) Sorry Nathan, couldn't resist.:-) Cybercube's been great about listening to our suggestions, glad they where able to pull this one off. Look forward to having many much more Cyrel owners here! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 176 Sat Dec 11, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 18:28 EST Grrr, I bought my Cyrel Card three weeks too early. :( It's a great piece of hardware though. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 177 Sun Dec 12, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 03:31 EST Spud Boy, I've had mine a while but I paid full price too. I figure it was worth extra for the great support! Maybe Cybercube could offer a special discount on other products for pre $995 users? Not that I'm trying to get a discount on a Vidimix 16 or anything.:-) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 178 Sun Dec 12, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 13:26 EST Corner Clocks have been the topic of discussion in several of the topics lately. In the falcon compatability topic there was reference to a resolution independant clock called "Zeitgeist". I downloaded the file and found it to work on the Sunrise in both 256 color and True Color modes. The file is: 23219 SDSZEIT4.LZH (LH5)LZH X S.SANDERS2 920314 Desc: Freeware Corner Clock v1.2 from SDS Bob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 179 Mon Dec 13, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 19:53 EST Yes, a discount on Vidimix or maybe some software like Ambiance... I am glad that the price is lower so more folks can join in the Cyrel experience. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 180 Thu Dec 16, 1993 R.STEGELMANN [Rolf] at 03:56 EST Any of you CyRel owners ever get the 3D multi-color icons in MultiTOS to display other than 1 color (i.e., totally white ) when using true color mode? Works fine in 256 color mode. Rolf ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 181 Thu Dec 16, 1993 J.STANFORD2 [John] at 18:15 EST The Nova guy in Germany says that the problem with color icons in Multi-tos is a problem in the AES. So far I have not seen color icons work properly on ANY unpaletted (16, 24 or 32 bit) graphics card - including the Nova and Crazy Dots. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 182 Thu Dec 16, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 23:39 EST Rolf, I can only get the white icons you described in True Color mode with Multi- Tos and the CyRel card. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 183 Sat Dec 18, 1993 J.ALLEN27 [FAST TECH] at 01:09 EST Sounds sensible John, maybe someone can test icon colors under Geneva/multitos and see if they work right. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 184 Sat Dec 18, 1993 R.STEGELMANN [Rolf] at 03:23 EST John, Spud, Thanks for the info. At least its not my setup. Maybe ATARI will fix it in the next release (with a speed up too I hope). Rolf ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 185 Sat Dec 18, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 19:33 EST Fast Tech, GENEVA works under true color on the Cyrel card. However, it will not load from the Auto folder. Also there are problems with the text color. Instead of having text that is black on white, I get text that is black with light blue behind the letters, even though the rest of the screen is white. It kinda looks like all of the text is highlighted with blue. The color pallette seems screwed up. Maybe this is all just under NEOdesk and has nothing to do with GENEVA. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 186 Sun Dec 19, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 12:32 EST Spud boy I don't have GENEVA or NEOdesk, so I'm probably way off base, but have you tried using the TC_SHIFT.PRG before going to GENEVA-NEOdesk? I know this helps with some other programs where the color is off. Bob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 187 Mon Dec 20, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 10:15 EST Lorne asked me a couple of questions in email. I am taking the liberty of re-posting them here for everyone: --- I have a couple of questions regarding the Cyrel graphics card. I'll ask here first and go to Cybercube if you feel that would be appropriate. 1. I loaded the T512x514.vtg driver and after going through the bootup process, I got the Cyrel M16-1280 graphic displayed in the center of the screen and then NO desktop. What might be causing this problem? Is there a way to get to the desktop from this screen? BTW, I am using a MAG MX17F monitor. The only solution I could find to resolving the above problem was to reboot in standard Atari mode (no Cyrel card), then delete all of the Cyrel files and folders and go back through the Cyrel installation process. 2. Another problem I seem to be having is with the display. The screen displays as diagrammed below, although not as severe as indicated by my diagram. -------------- \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ -------------- The actual variance from the top to the bottom of the screen is probably about 3/8ths of an inch. Do you have any idea of what might be causing this problem? Is there any obvious known solution for resolving this situation? I thought I would ask here first again, since I know you are familiar with the MAG monitors. The above mentioned problem appears more noticeable as the resolution is increased. Other than these two situations, I must say I am extremely pleased with the Cyrel board. Thanks again for your support, and I am looking forward to your responses. Lorne.... --- ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 188 Mon Dec 20, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 19:17 EST Lorne, I too have a Mag MX17F monitor and maybe I can help ypu out a little. First Resolutions below 640x480 do not show up on the monitor. Resolutions between 640X480 and my favorite for running Calamus 1280X1040 run fine as long as the correct scanning frequencies are used. The ones that I use regula 5R 256 color: V645X480.VTG 800x600.VTG 1KX768.VTG 1280X1K.VTG True Color: TV640X48.VTG T960X544.VTG T800X608.VTG As far as the skewing of your screen goes, I have no idea. My screen display is vertical. Bob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 189 Mon Dec 20, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 21:48 EST Let me add here that Calamus SL requires a minimum resolution of 640 x 350. Thanks for posting, Bob. Nathan ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 190 Tue Dec 21, 1993 J.ALLEN27 [FAST TECH] at 02:04 EST Ralf, would Cybercube consider making a MegaST version of the Cyrel card. Perhaps a Cyrel-Lite without the networking or vidimixing support, something to provide poor ole MegaST users with a shot at wonderfulness? ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 191 Tue Dec 21, 1993 REALM [Joey] at 05:26 EST Lorne, Look in your manual and see if you can adjust the MAG. It's probably like Bob said though it's not suppose to do that resolution.:-) I know on my Mitsubishi if you hold down TWO buttons when you turn it on, it goes into extended adjustment mode where you can change the shape of the screen. Skew Horizontal is one of the adjusments. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 192 Tue Dec 21, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 09:03 EST I received some email from a customer a long way from here. Perhaps you can all assist me in answering his questions as I don't own all the software in question. Thanks in advance for any asistance. Nathan Item 7228352 93/12/20 18:42 From: L.SMITH30 Louis T. Smith To: POTECHIN Nathan Potechin Sub: Order Nathan, Thanks for the usual prompt attention to my order. As regards the compatability issue with graphics cards the following ones are the most important: Calligrapher, Wordplus, Fleet Street Pub 3, Cardfile 4, Diamond Edge, Diamond Back, Neodesk 3, Warp 9, Xboot, LGSelect, Maxifile 3, Multidesk, Steno, Sage Accountant Plus, Stalker, Aladdin, Interlink, ICD Pro utilities, Degas Elite, K Spread, Superbase Pro, Touch up, Migraph OCR, Merge it, Arabesque, Easydraw, Imagecopy2, DataManager, Data Manager Pro, GFA Basic 3. Please let me know, as far you can, the problems both with the Cyrel and the Crazy Dots cards. One very important detail I would like to know is whether the computer can be booted without the use of the card so that any problem software can be used in a native system. By the way my monitor is a multisync. Regards, Louis (from The Rock of Gibraltar) ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 193 Tue Dec 21, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 19:20 EST Nathan, re: Louis Smith compatibility request. I don't have all the software either but I can give some advice. With a program like Xboot, Desk Manager, or Super Boot first in the auto folder, You can select to boot with or without the Cyrel card. With one monitor and a switch box you can easily go from the card and the standard TT monitor resolutions. The programs that I have that are included in Louis' list, my findings are: Diamond edge yes Diamond Back yes Warp 9 No (The cyrel has its own acceleration) LGSelect Yes Maxifile 3 Yes Multidesk Yes Aladdin Yes ICD Pro Utilities Yes Touch up No Migraph OCR No Bob ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 194 Tue Dec 21, 1993 T.HEBEL [Spud Boy] at 22:51 EST No I have not run TC_shift.prg. Should it be run in the Auto Folder? Does anyone use any screen accellorators with the Cyrel card? Things get awfully slow in 800x600 true color modes. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 195 Tue Dec 21, 1993 L.BUDNICK [Lorne] at 23:30 EST BOB, Thanks for your response re: the MAG minimum resolutions. That may explain why I experienced the problem I did. I have since noted that all resolutions I've tried between 640x480 and 1280x1024 have worked just fine. I have still not figured out why I am experiencing the screen skewing problem. REALM, I have not found an adjustment that would seem to correct the skewing problem. Perhaps a call to the manufacturer will be in order. I'm going to contact Sheldon first and see if he may have any ideas. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll let you all know what the outcome is hopefully in the not too distant future. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 196 Wed Dec 22, 1993 D.WALTER7 [Doug Walter] at 01:05 EST Nathan, RE: LOUIS T SMITH I have used or tested the following software from Mr. Smith's collection the Crazy Dots Card. Program Runs? ============ ===== Diamond Edge yes Diamond Back yes Warp 9 no Xboot yes LGSelect yes Maxifile 3 yes Multidesk yes Steno yes Stalker yes Aladdin yes Touch up yes, except "fat bits". Mono Migraph OCR yes Easydraw yes DataManager yes, in mono modes Doug7 ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 197 Wed Dec 22, 1993 VORTEXT at 03:27 EST ***** Rather Long Post to Follow **** ***** Be Forwarned! **** Louis, To help add to the confusion of the compatability question, I've had the following results with some of the software you ask about. Calligrapher: This program will not work with the Cyrel card. It will indeed load just fine, however, due to the method in which Calligrapher writes its text to the screen, all you get are little colored boxes. Sorry. Cardfile 4: This program works just fine, I use it all the time, in many configurations and with a variety of other software. Diamond Edge: It works in 256 mode at least. I have not fully run it under True Color as I do most of my work in 256. (Fear not folks, I DO use TC when it counts.) Diamond Back: The same story as DE. 256 for sure, not so sure about TC. Warp 9: Sorry. This one is a major crash dive. The accelaration within the Cyrel card doesn't like competition. In the fight for suppremacy, your system loses. XBoot: Versions II and III both work, you simply need to set them up differently. Version II is run before the Cyrel drivers so that you can see the menu screen and thereby activate your ACCs and Auto PRGs as you like. This also a great way to turn the Cyrel card on or off so that you can work with those pesky programs that don't like it. Version III however needs to be run AFTER XBoot or else when you finish booting, you have no mouse control. Weird, yes. But that's the way it is. LGS: I use it. Maxifile: Here's another story. Yes you can use it. No not for everything. Again, due to the text writing routines you cannot view files from within maxifile. You need to go back to the desktop to do this. Also, in TC Maxifile becomes unstable, I'd suggest not using it. Multidesk: It works, but not all the ACCs you have loaded neccassarily will. Be careful. Steno: A funny thing here. It's okay until you need to do that third screen redraw. For some reason once it scrolls for the third time it decides to stop working and takes the rest of your computer with it. Re-boot time folks! Otherwise...it's wonderful for short notes. Aladdin: This one does work, although I prefer the scrolling in 256 mode as opposed to the TC method. Much cleaner. Touch-Up: You can forget this one in TC. It will work under 256 but you can't use the Fast-Bit mode. When you do, it scrambles your picture into really funny scragglies. OCR: I've only had the chance to use it a little. But so far it has behaved itself. 256 not TC As to the other software on your list, I have not had the chance to get to some of those yet but I thought I would pass along what I did have so far. I have tested a fair amount of other software on the Cyrel as well, with decent results. One thing to keep in mind, as has been mentioned before, I would highly recommend that you get a switch box, or a second monitor, if you get the Cyrel card. This way you will be able to use ALL your software just as you have been by simply turning off the Cyrel drivers as needed. I admit it would be far nicer if everything worked well together and there was no need to turn the machine off and on depending on the use you had in mind. This becomes particularly annoying when in the middle of something you realize that you forgot to do some small piece of work and need to re-boot your system because the software you have to use is incompatible. I know, I've done it. I hope this helps a little and I'm sorry if I took so much time. (Actually, I'm NOT sorry. I enjoyed it.) Daniel ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 198 Wed Dec 22, 1993 ST.LOU [Lou Rocha] at 10:01 EST Great post, Daniel. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 199 Wed Dec 22, 1993 POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 11:50 EST Thanks everyone for posting. I expect Ralf will be back online tonight. Welcome back Ralf. Nathan ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 200 Wed Dec 22, 1993 R.VOORNEVELD [BOB] at 18:56 EST Spud Boy, Just run TC_SHIFT.PRG before you run the application. Ralf, WELCOME BACK! We sure did miss you! ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 201 Wed Dec 22, 1993 L.BUDNICK [Lorne] at 19:52 EST Louis, I'll add my two cents worth to the discussion based on my experiences to-date. CodeHead products: The only thing that I have been able to run is MultDesk, but like has already been mentioned, some of the accessories it loads may not. I make special mention of the above, since I have a large number of CodeHead products, the latest versions, and unfortunately they do NOT get along with the Cyrel card. Other experiences: Program Runs? (Most of my testing has been in 256 colors while running either 800x600 or 1024x768.) Alladin Yes Migraph OCR Yes Migraph Touchup Yes Superbase 2 Yes Calamus SL Yes WordFlair II Yes Pha$ar Yes (Runs in top left corner of screen but works fine.) SuperBoot Yes (I use this to control whether I boot with or without the Cyrel card loaded. I have a Monitor Switch between my monitor and the Cyrel and Atari monitor ports.) * I would recommend the switch and a program like SuperBoot, XBoot, etc. which will permit you to run all your existing software, whether it works with the Cyrel or not. SysInfo No Doesn't crash but tells you it does not run in selected resolution. Well that is about it for this post. I am going to be doing a great deal of testing in the coming week as I will have the week off. I will post my findings later next week. Lorne.... ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 202 Wed Dec 22, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:37 EST Hi! Wow! I I just left for two weeks and look at the pile of messages that are waiting here! *,* \_/ OK, let's start at the beginning. Bob, thanks for your update and compatibility report on the 'Zeitgeist' corner clock. I'll try it as soon as I can since I've had several people asking for something like this! Tim, yep, *grin* there has been a lot of interest since we've announced the new pricing structure. The CyReL M16-1280 architecture will be expanded shortly with a string of new products.... but shhhh! Don't tell anybody! +,< \_/ Rolf, multi-colored icons in TC: acknowledged. This is a bug in the present version of the TC VDI. We've fixed it already, but somehow the wrong (and still faulty VDI version) has been released to our customers. Sorry for the inconvenience. You will be able to display the correct icons shortly with the coming TC VDI update. John, yes, there are a few hidden bugs... not only in our VDI *grin* but also the AES. But there are ways to fix that as well. Jim, as I just explained to Rolf, there is still a bug (with three legs and only one eye *grin*) in our VDI that inhibits the correct display of those icons. Will be fixed in the next VDI update. Promised! *,* \_/ Tim, GENEVA now boots also in True Color correctly. We've fixed that previous malfunction in cooperation with several parties (*grin*) for which I want to thank everyone involved! -continued in the next post- ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 203 Wed Dec 22, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 20:52 EST -continued from previous post- Bob, I haven't seen the 'black text on blue' effect you described. Can anyone give me some tips on how to reproduce the bug? Lorne, 512x514 True Color mode: In order to run the VDI + LineA + VT52 Emulator + XBIOS drivers on the CyReL M16-1280 graphics card, you should have a minimum resolution of 640x400 pixels in _ANY_ mode (this limit is due to the fact that our VT52 Emulator needs a 80x25 raster for the text display). Re-booting: You do not need to delete all the CyReL files and re-install them in order to re-boot with a different mode/resolution. Simply use an appropriate *.VTG file and drag it onto the XCHNG.TTP program. This will reconfigure the mode and the resolution of the card. Diagonal display on the screen: This is a very odd effect. I haven't seen something like that so far. Have you had the chance to test the *.VTG files that Bob is using (refer to his post #188)? Jim, there have been several suggestions regarding a 'LITE' version of the CyReL M16-1280 graphics cards. I do not know right now how far these ideas have progressed. If you have any particular suggestions or tips, we would be delighted if you could e-mail them directly to CYBERCUBE. I'll relay the messages then to the right people. *grin* Right now we are very pleased with the interest generated by our recent price cuts. We slashed $500 from the price tag to make the CyReL M16-1280 and VidiMix16 combo even more attractive! Of course, you can buy both products separatly or in a bundle, as required. *,< \_/ Bob, thanks for the compatibility list. It's nice to see that our VDI driver is getting more and more flexible to even accomodate some more 'demanding' applications and programs. -continued in the next post- ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 204 Wed Dec 22, 1993 CYBERCUBE [Ralf] at 21:10 EST -continued from the previous post- Tim, normally you do not need to install the TC_SHIFT.PRG in the \AUTO\ folder. Please refer to the TC_SHIFT.DOC file in your \M16_MISC\ folder for installation details! Accelerators: True Color represents 4 times more information per pixel than 256 color modes and 32 times as much as monochrome. So things tend to be 'a little slower' in TC. Therefore we recommend TC for imaging, graphing, video and other visual applications rather than for spreadsheet calculations or heavy text scrolling stuff. I think the whole concept works best when you select the most appropriate mode for each program. VORTEXT, thanks for your compatibility report. Here a few notes: STENO: We've just received a copy of it from Gribnif to correct the scrolling bug. I'll keep you updated. Thanks to those fast guys at Gribnif for their support and cooperation! Warp 9: our VDI driver replaces the original VDI and has been optimized anybody else messing too much with the screen you can't and do not to provide the best possible output for your CyReL M16-1280 graphics card. Granted, the major part of our VDI is written in C and incorporates quite some overhead which could be eliminated and optimized through the use of 100% assembly code, but the present method insures faster driver updates and shorter maintenance cycles. Thanks again for your great efforts in testing and evaluation the compatibility of all those programs you listed. Good job! Lorne, thanks for the update on your findings. Please forward a list of the CodeHead utilities you found do not work properly with our card to CYBERCUBE. We'll then try to check whether you would have to change something on your setup or if we have to correct our drivers. Any help will be appreciated. Nathan, Lou, thanks for keeping an eye on the proceedings in this category. If I missed anyone or if there are any unanswered questions, please say so ... so that we can straighten it out. *,* \_/ It's nice to be back and see all this interest. Ralf. ------------ Category 16, Topic 12 Message 205 Thu Dec 23, 1993 J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ] at 05:23 EST Message 201, Wed Dec 22, 1993 L.BUDNICK [Lorne] -- Reformated -- Program Runs? (Most of my testing has been in 256 colors while running either 800x600 or 1024x768.) Alladin Yes Migraph OCR Yes Migraph Touchup Yes Superbase 2 Yes Calamus SL Yes WordFlair II Yes Pha$ar Yes (Runs in top left corner of screen but works fine.) SuperBoot Yes (I use this to control whether I boot with or without the Cyrel card loaded. I have a Monitor Switch between my monitor and the Cyrel and Atari monitor ports.) * I would recommend the switch and a program like SuperBoot, XBoot, etc. which will permit you to run all your existing software, whether it works with the Cyrel or not. SysInfo No Doesn't crash but tells you it does not run in selected resolution. ------------