************************************************************************* This conference transcript is the exclusive property of the ST Advantage on DELPHI. Permission to reprint is granted only if this notice is included and the transcript is left unchanged. To get your own DELPHI account and join in on the many activities sponsored by the ST Advantage and the Atari Advantage on DELPHI, use your modem to dial up DELPHI at 1-800-695-4002. Press once or twice to get a connection, then at Password:, type in COMPUTERFEST then press again. Basic sign-up is free! ************************************************************************* Transcript of a formal Conference held Tuesday, April 28th, 1992, with John Eidsvoog & Charles F. Johnson, collectively known as the CodeHeads! .Gordie> Okay, things look fairly stable. Let's get it started. Good evening everyone, and welcome to the formal Conference with the illustrious CodeHeads. Being a formal event, we'll use the usual signals to let the moderator (me) know when you have a question. That'd be a ? for anyone who's new tonight. I'll keep track of who's got questions and call on you in turn. Before we get into questions, do either Charles or John have an opening statement of some kind? .John @ CodeHead> Yes, I've got one. .Gordie> We're all ears! .John @ CodeHead> Good evening, folks! I'm John Eidsvoog, one of the owners of CodeHead Technologies. My partner Charles Johnson and I are here tonight to talk about our line of products, answer any questions you might have, and also announce the debut of what is destined to be the definitive word processor for the Atari line of computers! More on this in a minute... We're pleased to say that the newest entry in our catalog, Warp 9 (formerly known as Quick ST from Branch Always Software), has been very well accepted by Atari users! Warp 9, the software accelerator, is proving itself to be the most compatible program of its type _ever_ for the Atari, while maintaining (and in many cases surpassing) the performance of its predecessor, Quick ST, and far exceeding the performance of its European counterpart, NVDI. For those who don't know about Warp 9 yet, this AUTO folder utility intercepts GEM screen output and replaces the slow TOS routines with much faster, highly optimized assembly language code. The result is a vastly accelerated screen display; windows snap open, graphics appear instantly, and text literally flies onto the screen. We're especially happy tonight to announce that we'll soon be providing the first update to Warp 9 FREE OF CHARGE, as a token of our appreciation of your support. This update will be posted on the major information services, sometime within the next month. And now, I know many of you have been waiting for the unveiling of our rumored new product -- so without further ado, we're very proud to announce that CodeHead Technologies has made arrangements for the exclusive representation in the United States and Canada of: CALLIGRAPHER -- the next-generation document processor that takes you from first conception to final print! Calligrapher is the first word processor to meet CodeHead's exacting standards for user interface excellence and powerful features. Some of Calligrapher's features include an editable dictionary and spell checker, a powerful outliner (the first really useable outliner we've seen!), footnotes and endnotes, hinted outline fonts for very high quality printed output, the ability to import both bitmap graphics and GEM metafiles, built-in graphics tools for drawing lines and shapes, infinite expandability through the use of "external modules," and a whole lot more -- way too much to list here. In many ways, Calligrapher bridges the gap between a desktop publishing application and a word processor. Calligrapher Professional includes these basic features plus much more. Also available will be Calligrapher Gold which includes a grammar checker, label printer, bar code generation, automatic indexing, automatic save, mathematical equation editor, Flextext, Postscript output and more! Other options that are available are a catalog of 64 disks of very high quality hinted outline fonts, licensed from URW, a well-known type foundry and supplemental dictionaries for seven other languages. We're very excited to be able to offer Calligrapher, helping to round out our line of graphic tools which already includes Avant Vector for auto-tracing, MegaPaint Professional for bitmap and vector graphics design and the Cherry font collection. We don't want to forget to mention our full line of powerful utilities including HotWire, MaxiFile, MultiDesk Deluxe, Codekeys, LookIt and PopIt, G+Plus, CodeHead Utilities, MIDIMAX, and MIDI Spy. And last but not least we have the TOS Extension Card (TEC) which provides a means for everyone to use TOS 2.06, the very latest version of the Atari operating system, even if they have an older ST or Mega ST. The TEC has been selling very well and together with Warp 9 it offers an unbeatable combination for supercharging your Atari computer. With all of these product we could probably spend all night in conference, so we'd better get down to some questions. Thank you for coming and let's begin. Whew. .Gordie> Well, I've got to say I'm excited! And before anyone else asks, what kind of pricing are you looking at? .John @ CodeHead> Let's say that we're not quite ready to announce the pricing yet, but the basic Professional version will be well under $200. .Gordie> Okay, close enough for me. PENDZICH> Yes I purchased the ICD accelerator card, ADspeed that came with Quick ST and wondered how to get an upgrade without a disk? ga .John @ CodeHead> You can send us your AdSpeed disk and if you'd like it returned, just request that we do so. The upgrade fee is $20. ATARIPOWER7> Will Warp 9 have any effect on the ability of some programs, particularly STalker 3 and to some degree FZDS Term, to handle higher speed operation at 9600+? GA .Charles @ CHTech> Well, yes....because the main factor limiting modem communications at the higher speeds is how fast the ST can display the incoming text. So Warp 9 will definitely help the screen display keep up with the data coming from the modem. ga .MRAINEY> How much memory does Warp 9 require compared to Turbo ST, and what are the hardware requirements for CALLIGRAPHER? .Charles @ CHTech> Whoops....looks like John got bumped off. I'll answer that... I don't know exactly how much memory Turbo ST uses, but Warp 9 uses a roughly equal amount. Calligrapher will run on all Atari computers with at least 1 Meg of memory. You'll need at least 2 Meg, however, to use the SLM804/605 drivers provided. ga EIDSVOOG> I'm back, sorry. JBEAU> I have a couple quick questions: 1) Isn't "WARP 9" a Star Trekkie jargon you might get chased a bit for using? 2) Have the problems with NOTATOR been resolved. 3) How does Warp 9 maintain its maximum possible speed regardless of its position in the AUTO folder? That's All. :-) .John @ CodeHead> The only problem that exists in Notator is with the display of slur lines. It has not been fixed yet, but we're working on it. JBEAU> Hm...my business is in creating PRINTED sheet music for studio work...and slurs are of course required... .John @ CodeHead> Everything else works fine, so if it doesn't bother you to see the slurs/ties look a little funny, then you can leave Warp 9 turned on. JBEAU> I don't mind...but clients, well......you know! .John @ CodeHead> In that case, you can still leave Warp 9 installed, but have it automatically disabled while in Notator. GA .Charles @ CHTech> The printed output of slurs, though, should be unaffected. .John @ CodeHead> Oh yeah, that's right. Your printouts will not suffer. .Charles @ CHTech> At least I think so -- I have not actually tested it. JBEAU> Are you saying the problem is display only? My printouts with QST had garbage for slurs on printout as well. Is this different for Warp 9? .John @ CodeHead> Hmmm...perhaps not. .Charles @ CHTech> From your description, probably not. As I said, I haven't actually tested this. .John @ CodeHead> We will eventually get it ironed out, but at least there's a workaround. JBEAU> I'd be happy to "beta" test that one for you! ;-) .John @ CodeHead> Regarding your other questions... We did a trademark search on "Warp 9" and found only an after shave lotion ... You can put Warp 9 anywhere in the AUTO folder, but the earlier you put it, the faster your bootup will be... The accessory (Warp 9 Control Panel) will tell Warp 9 to regrab its vectors so that it will run at optimum speed. GA .Dana@STReport> Guys, first of all, congratulations on your continued success. You've both been terrific supporters for the Atari userbase! _IF_ you both get any time off soon for some rest, what's next from your little bag of tricks? GA Charles @ CHTech> Next is Calligrapher, as we mentioned in our opening statement. After that....who knows. .John @ CodeHead> Well, some day I may actually finish MIDI Spy. :^) ga .Dana@STReport> Anything that you've been wanting to do but haven't yet? Is PinHead necessary with Warp 9? .John @ CodeHead> We'd like to cure the world hunger problem, but... who knows. .Charles @ CHTech> PinHead and Warp 9 do completely different things. Warp 9 doesn't replace it. .John @ CodeHead> You'll definitely want to continue using Pinhead. .Dana@STReport> Great! GA RMORROW> Will I be able to dump PageStream 2.1 and WordUp 3.0 in favor of Calligrapher? I use PageStream for only very basic uses, and WUP is, well, buggy. Will I be able to import .WUP files? ga .Charles @ CHTech> The current version of Calligrapher doesn't explicitly import WUP files. However, this can be added through its ability to call external modules. If you do mostly simple DTP kinds of work with Pagestream, Calligrapher will probably suit your needs just fine. It's _not_ a DTP program, so if you have very complicated layouts in mind, you should use Pagestream, but for general text and light graphics stuff, it's terrific. ga RMORROW> No, nothing too detailed being done here. Thanks. ga .Gordie> This talk of external modules reminds me of MegaPaint Pro. Is that a new concept, or is it TommySoft again? .John @ CodeHead> Calligrapher comes from England. .Charles @ CHTech> Nope....Calligrapher was developed by Working Title in the UK. .Gordie> So, it must be a concept that was long overdue. SSHUSTER> You mentioned earlier when talking about Calligrapher, the use of SLM804/605 Driver, I'm rather new to Atari, and was curious about what this was. ga .Charles @ CHTech> The SLM804 and SLM605 are Atari's laser printers. ga .Gordie> Steve, they don't have any memory resident, so you need extra in your computer to handle the page set up, etc. SSHUSTER> Thanks .MRAINEY> When will Calligrapher be available, and will there be a demo version for us to play with? ga .John @ CodeHead> That's a good question...we don't know, but I assume there'll be a demo version. Another thing that we didn't mention is that there is also a Calligrapher Lite version of the program. We don't have a price on this yet, but it will be under $100. We should have Calligrapher available within a month's time. GA MRBURKLEY> Do you feel that there is a market for extra, beyond 4 meg RAM upgrades? What with Revolver, programs and all, I could use it! .John @ CodeHead> I think that Jim Allen of Fast Technology already has something like that. GA MRBURKLEY> I'll Check. Thanks. .BobT> Are you aware of Wes Newells "knockoff" of the TEC board? .John @ CodeHead> We've heard about it... As I understand, it is quite a "hack", requiring that you cut traces on your motherboard, route wires all over the place, bend pins on your chips, and all kinds of other unruly things. There may be those who are willing to do this to their machines, but this is a far cry from the clean design of the TEC. .Dana@STReport> With the arrival of European programs by CodeHead Tech, are you "essentially" distributors...or are you able to "de-bug", re-work these programs to enhance existing software? .Charles @ CHTech> Absolutely not, Dana! I just spent three months working on Warp 9, and I'm going to spend more time on it in the near future. As far as input into the European programs, we're careful to choose only those programs that are already mature and problem-free. No, really. .Dana@STReport> Can you "add/change" them at all? .Charles @ CHTech> With MegaPaint and Calligrapher, we're able to contribute to the programs (and we already have) by writing our own external modules. If you're asking "do we have access to the source code," no, we don't. .John @ CodeHead> We've already done SEVEN modules for MegaPaint, giving it a LOT more power than it had. We plan to do the same for Calligrapher. .Dana@STReport> So you can produce add-ons, but can't alter the programs in any way. .John @ CodeHead> If our customers ask for features, we don't have to tell them that we're at the mercy of the authors...we can do something about it. .Dana@STReport> That's what I was getting at, John - thanks. .John @ CodeHead> .Gordie> Speaking of modules, are there any in the works for MegaPaint? (Since it's a little early to ask about Calligrapher?) .Charles @ CHTech> We do have some stuff on the drawing board, but nothing imminent at this moment. ga .D.Nield> Charles, does Calligrapher provide drivers for the Deskjet 500? Support endnotes? Indexes? Table of Contents? Wordperfect files? Thanks! .John @ CodeHead> There's a DESKJET5.SYS printer driver. I assume that's for the 500, but can't be sure. .Charles @ CHTech> Yes, to all of those, except the Word Perfect driver. We expect to be able to come up with a WP driver rather quickly, though. .John @ CodeHead> We have a lot to learn about Calligrapher and its options...but, if there are requests for features, we'll do our best to make them available. .D.Nield> Great Thanks .Mike> OK...back to Warp-9....(sorry for the "reversion" in topics...but)) I have Quick-ST 2.0 and a 1040ST with 1 meg ant TOS 1.0...is the speed worth the increase in RAM usage??? .Charles @ CHTech> Yes. :) ga .Mike> How much faster IS it?? I havent seen any "hard" numbers. ga .John @ CodeHead> "Hard" numbers don't really mean much...what means a lot is how fast you "perceive" the accelleration when you start using it. Everyone that's gotten the update is raving about it. Maybe that's enough for you, maybe not . .Mike> OK..last thing...I have Quick-ST 2.0, Is/are there any "concessions" if I upgrade? GA .John @ CodeHead> Yes, you save $24.95 off the price and only pay $20 .Charles @ CHTech> Quick ST 3 was faster than Quick ST 2. And Warp 9 is faster still. .Mike> I assume I gotta send in my original disk of Quick-ST? .John @ CodeHead> That would be a good idea. .Charles @ CHTech> That's right....send in the disk and a check for $20.00 to get the Warp 9 upgrade. ga More on that faster subject too: the free update we'll be releasing soon will be even faster....in fact, scrolling in many GEM and non- GEM programs will be almost 3 times faster! .Gordie> As a Warp 9 user, I have to say that things are noticably faster than the older Quick ST's and Turbo ST. .Mike> I hope ya'll accept money orders, I don't use checks. ;-) ATARIPOWER7> Will the CodeHeads perhaps do a Term program right? I'm a bit peeved, spent over $500 on a spiffy modem, and the software all fall far short... Will Calligrapher work well with the new font scaling used in the newer Epson Printers, I think it's called ESC-P.... .Gordie> Scrolling is the least enhanced currently, so that will make it much improved! .John @ CodeHead> Maybe we should just give everyone a free copy of everything we have . .Gordie> Sure, and we'll send you blank signed checks and Visa charge slips... .Charles @ CHTech> Sounds like a fair trade to me, Gordie! :-) .John @ CodeHead> We actually got a blank check from a guy yesterday. He said he'd trust us to fill in the right amount . PENDZICH> Have Codekeys, would love one long macro instead of the several short ones... could be an easy rewrite any chance? Plus... How about a group price for all your software? Say $300-400... .Charles @ CHTech> You can already chain macros together to make one long one if you want, in CodeKeys. About a group price, we have talked about this, and we may do it....but we haven't settled on anything yet. PENDZICH> Had most problems in my old copy of Fleet street you guys have that to test. Version 3.0 For the keys the problem is you have to break and start a new macro all the time. ga .Charles @ CHTech> Right...you do have to start a new macro and it takes some planning. When I get time to return to CodeKeys, I'll think about this. About AP7's telecom question --- we don't have a telecom program in the works right now....but who knows? ga PENDZICH> Oh one last thing know I will get blasted but could use you guys on the IBM, they don't know how to write software there. .Bruce from MAST> So are you bringing a truck load of product to the Milwaukee show? .Charles @ CHTech> We'll have an ample supply. :) How many people do you expect...? MRBURKLEY> Is there a limit on how fast Warp 9 can be (of course there is!). How close are you now? .Charles @ CHTech> We're _very_ close to the limit right now. The new update will be right about at the edge, and it may not be possible to squeeze any more cycles out of the machine after that. ga MRBURKLEY> Thanks .John @ CodeHead> Our efforts have been more geared toward compatibility. .Charles @ CHTech> Right.....we're as fast as you can go, while still retaining maximum compatibility. An important distinction. It would be possible to make some operations faster, but it would entail breaking rules or taking shortcuts. We prefer to be solid and dependable, AND as fast as possible. .MRAINEY> Any similar incentive to cash in my copy of Turbo ST in exchange for Warp 9? .Charles @ CHTech> Yes, you can send in your Turbo ST disk and get the same upgrade deal -- $20.00. ga .John @ CodeHead> The regrabbing of the vectors has gone a long way toward getting every last ounce or speed out of the system. .MRAINEY> I'll do it ATARIPOWER7> What about the newer Epson printer's ability for font scaling? .John @ CodeHead> I don't know. ATARIPOWER7> HPGL5? IOW, does it support the high end HP laser driver? .John @ CodeHead> Yes, there's a printer driver called HPL150 and one called HPL300 ATARIPOWER7> The one with variable size dots. Hmmm, shame. PageStream said they couldn't make a driver for the HPIII taking advantage of HPGL5 .John @ CodeHead> It's really a bit early for us to know every tiny detail about the way Calligrpaher will operate with every printer available. ATARIPOWER7> As per making a term program, CAN RTS/CTS be fixed, at any cost? .John @ CodeHead> Get TOS 2.06 ATARIPOWER7> I've heard it don't fix it, and since I will be getting a Mega STe 4, I understand the 1.44 driver dont work. .John @ CodeHead> I think you heard wrong. ATARIPOWER7> Turbo-ST dont work. Not in TOS 1.2, on my computer. STR had a nice explanation of the problem. .John @ CodeHead> Perhaps you should reconfigure your modem. There are a lot of factors involved in getting optimum performance at high speed. .Gordie> I think there is a hardware problem with the RTS/CTS part. And I don't think any software will fix it properly. .John @ CodeHead> It takes more than just one piece of magic. Charles and I are sending stuff back and forth daily at high speeds and have no problems whatsoever. .MRAINEY> I use Hotwire, Maxifile, Pinhead, and LGS. What will TOS 2.06 do for me? .John @ CodeHead> Mrainey, TOS 2.06 offers about 10-15% speedup over TOS 1.04 in the Gem dialog test. .Gordie> Anyone else have question about existing CodeHead products, or Calligrapher? WAYNEDUNHAM> I just got here.... Did the CH's leak anything about the new WP? .John @ CodeHead> Nope. .Charles @ CHTech> What new word processor? .John @ CodeHead> Yes, Wayne, it's Calligrapher. .Charles @ CHTech> Oh, THAT one. .John @ CodeHead> .John @ CodeHead> Ten demerits, Wayne. .Gordie> I won't have them repeat it, but it will be in the transcript. .John @ CodeHead> 50 pushups...now! NORMW> I'll take two! WAYNEDUNHAM> Hey, I said I just got here. :-) Are those SUGAR Free push ups :-) .John @ CodeHead> That'll teach you to be late...now get down and give me 50. WAYNEDUNHAM> 50 pushups? I hope you guys have some time on your hands. :) .Charles @ CHTech> Time? Why, we have nothing but free time these days. ...NOT! .Gordie> Any chance I could get someone to add the button fix to MaxiFile? I don't always use MultiDesk Deluxe. .John @ CodeHead> That seems to be a common request. .Gordie> I suppose I could just run BUTTNFIX, though. .John @ CodeHead> We don't feel it's fair to duplicate code in memory for the vast number of people who do use MultiDesk Deluxe. .Gordie> That makes sense, John. I'll add BUTTNFIX back into my AUTO folder. .D.Nield> John or Charles, how did you come into contact with the authors of Calligrapher?... .John @ CodeHead> We've been talking with Working Title about Calligrapher for almost a year now. Plans got pushed back as we took on other products from Germany, etc. .Charles @ CHTech> They originally contacted us, to license G+PLUS. G+PLUS has.... been included with Calligrapher for about 2 years now. .D.Nield> Did you aproach them concerning the possibility of an import? or did they seek you out in hopes you would be interested... because of your well deserved reputation? .John @ CodeHead> We asked them to send us a copy of Calligrapher out of curiosity about why they wanted to use G+Plus. Charles then suggested we ask them about importing it. They didn't want a standard export deal, but rather wanted to establish a US company specifically for Calligrapher. So we have formed a division of CodeHead called Working Title US. .Charles @ CHTech> Wayne, I haven't been this excited about a word processor in a LONG time. Calligrapher is an EXCELLENT piece of work. .MRAINEY> What are your hours and telephone numbers for tech support? .John @ CodeHead> Monday-Friday 9AM to 1PM (213) 386-5735 NORMW> Those are Pacific times. .Charles @ CHTech> And the mailing address (for the sake of completeness) is: CodeHead Technologies PO Box 74090 Los Angeles, CA 90004 WAYNEDUNHAM> I'm not familiar with Calligrapher, but it must be tops for CHTech to add it to their list of products. .MRAINEY> Does Microsoft Word (15 meg on your hard drive) do a whole lot that Calligrapher doesn't? .Charles @ CHTech> I haven't used Word, so I can't really answer that. NORMW> I have Word Charles. Come over! WAYNEDUNHAM> Is/Will there be a demo version available? I'm curious as to what would light the CHtechie's fires so much! .John @ CodeHead> We will be asking them about a demo...dunno. .BobT> Speaking of disk space, how much does it require? .John @ CodeHead> It depends on how many modules you use. The dictionary and thesaurus take up a lot of disk space. The program itself is 306K. .Charles @ CHTech> It also depends on how many fonts you want to install. .John @ CodeHead> A fairly full setup takes about 4 meg. .D.Nield> I would think they would be flattered to be associated with the best looking logo on any platform!!! .Charles @ CHTech> You mean our logo, David? Thanks! That's the work of Gregg Rodgers who wrote the Genus font editor. .Vic> Yeap....is that 306k on disk space...or operation And a few more operation details on the wp program...if you would please... .John @ CodeHead> 306K of disk space. I'm not sure how much memory it uses. .Ron I came in late, and missed a full description, but briefly, what does Caligrapher NOT do? (like Mega Paint doesn't do color, etc.) What feature is NOT included that people may ask for but you will have to tell them "It isn't in there and probably won't be" ga .Charles @ CHTech> That's an odd question -- I don't really have an answer. So far, Calligrapher has been more than capable of everything I've asked it to do. .John @ CodeHead> Well, it won't allow editing of individual vector points. It doesn't do 3-D rotation . .Charles @ CHTech> That's true, John. Didn't think of that. It also doesn't know a good recipe for buttermilk pancakes. ga .John @ CodeHead> It's really not a full desktop publishing program, but rather a high-end word processor. Or should I say, document processor. It uses outline fonts. .Ron So it's a step up from Regent Word II (which I currently use) but won't replace PageStream (which I also use). Thanks. .John @ CodeHead> And graphics can be integrated...or drawn within. (hmmm...maybe it does allow vector point editing). .Gordie> What kind of output formats will it do? Like full portrait, full landscape, paginated 5.5x8.5? That kind of thing? .Charles @ CHTech> All of that, Gordie. WAYNEDUNHAM> Projected price range? For us latecomers. .John @ CodeHead> The basic "Professional" version will be well under $200, the "Gold" version will be over $200, and the "Lite" version will be under $100. Prices are not yet firmly established. .Charles @ CHTech> It's light years beyond Regent Word! .Norm> Since Wayne ask half of what I wanted, :-) When will it be availble and what are the differences to the three versions. .Charles @ CHTech> It should be available within a month. John just mentioned our tentative pricing. ga .John @ CodeHead> The Gold version will have Postscript, barcode generation, Flexible text effects, grammar checking, automatic save, equation editor, label printer, dictionary, thesaurus... .Norm> Grammar checking, that I NEED! .John @ CodeHead> Actually, some of that is in the Professional version, too. BBKBRYAN> This has probably been asked and answered, but what kind of import/ export modules exist. So that I can edit documents created on other platforms? GA .MRAINEY> Is the documentation up to your usual high standards? Is it written for the "Brits"? .John @ CodeHead> I haven't really fully read the docs . It's a British manual for sure. :^) .Charles @ CHTech> It is British....but believe me, that's a lot better than translated German! The manual is quite good, actually. (I _have_ read parts of it. Ahem.) :) ga .MRAINEY> Portuguese .D.Nield> How about the spell checker? You know the British can't spell.... .John @ CodeHead> There are dictionaries available in French, German, Italian, Spanish, Catalan, and UK English, and Dutch. NORMW> And Charles is Hawaiian spelling champ! .John @ CodeHead> As for import/export modules...what does not exist can be added later as demand dictates. WAYNEDUNHAM> Hate to switch streams........ .John @ CodeHead> ......in the middle of the horse. WAYNEDUNHAM> What date are you up to with the Warp 9 Updates. ga .John @ CodeHead> We are less than a week behind right now. We sent out about a hundred today, and should completely catch up tomorrow. GA WAYNEDUNHAM> Ok, the postman gets mad when I search his vehicle every day. :) .D.Nield> You too? .John @ CodeHead> We stuck yours in a pie and lobbed it. WAYNEDUNHAM> Quite a lob from CA to CT! Sign em up for the Olympic Pie Toss! .John @ CodeHead> It's easy at Warp 9! MRBURKLEY> I was just looking throught the April issue of ST Informer Is the review of Calligrapher Professional in there of your new product? .John @ CodeHead> Yes... MRBURKLEY> Will it still be distributed through A & D Software? .John @ CodeHead> At the time that was written, Rod Mcdonald had taken the initiative to order some Calligraphers directly from the UK... He didn't realize we were negotiating directly with Working Title. We've talked to him since, and the next issue should at least have a small statement about the fact that it will be available through us. .MRAINEY> Just to give me some perspective on the ST market, how many copies must you sell to consider the project a success? .John @ CodeHead> That's a good one...I don't know if there IS such a thing as a "success"... These days, just about any amount of sales can be considered a success, although things have definitely been looking up lately. GA .Gordie> It's been a couple of hours now. Dave Shorr, you'll have the last question. .John @ CodeHead> Time's fun when you're having flies. (says Kermit) .Dave> PostScript output: does this mean I can print to a file and print it out on a LaserWriter/LaserJet instead of my nine-pin Atari grafx printer? .John @ CodeHead> Yes, or you can take to a lino service bureau. .Dave> Thanks for fixing that CAD-3D problem with Warp 9 so quickly!!! GA. .Charles @ CHTech> Dave: yes, exactly. Or you can use Ultrascript. There are equivalent fonts for most popular Postscript fonts available for Calligrapher. .Dave> Do I have to worry about special font files? Only the Gold version has this? .John @ CodeHead> Calligrapher can use standard GDOS fonts, or you can outline fonts by using any of the 64 disks full of fonts available separately. (use outline fonts) .Charles @ CHTech> The Calligrapher font library is of _very_ high quality, by the way. Many fonts are licensed from the famous URW type foundry. .D.Nield> What will the font disks cost? approximately? .John @ CodeHead> We don't have a price on the font disks yet. .Gordie> Well, I want to thank the CodeHeads for taking the time out of their busy lives to talk with us this evening. We appreciate it, and everything else you've done for the Atari market. Any closing comments? .John @ CodeHead> Thank you all for coming and thank you for supporting (and BUYing) CodeHead Software and Hardware. NORMW> Buy?? You want me to buy?? .MRAINEY> The check's in the mail MRBURKLEY> THANK YOU! .Vic> merci...!!!! .Norm> Thanks for a entertaining evening. .Terry> Thanks, gentlemen, keep up the good work. .D.Nield> Thank you for being here and for being there.... .Charles @ CHTech> You're welcome, folks. It's been a pleasure. .Gordie> This CO is formally closed! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Once again, I'd like to thank JBEAU for his work in getting this transcript into some kind of intelligible shape. This one turned out to be rather readable. Thanks! --Gordie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++