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Topic 11        Mon Jun 19, 1989
DARLAH [RT~SYSOP]            (Forwarded)
Sub: Ask the CodeHeads

Got some ideas for a new product that we need?? Give the CodeHeads your ideas.
205 message(s) total.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 3         Thu Jul 08, 1993
M.STEFANI [MCH]              at 03:39 EDT

CodeHead:

Even thought most CodeHead software seems to run fine on the Falcon, I've
encountered a couple of problems worth mentioning:

1) CodeKeys works fine, except that the "hot" keys for starting a
   timed or untimed macro recording cause bombs and a "lock-up."
   Attempting to add a pause when editing (both shifts plus control
   and alternate) have an indentical effect.

2) PopIt works, except that the Falcon doesn't recognize the assigned
   "hot" keys, which essentially cripples the purpose of the program.

I've eliminated all other TSR programs from the AUTO folder and also disabled
all ACCs to check for software incompatability.  No luck!!

Just thought I'd post these findings FYI.  No problems as yet with HotWire,
MaxiFile, or MultiDesk.

        Mark @ VISION Music
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 4         Thu Jul 08, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 04:57 EDT

Mark,
 Thanks for the report.  We'll check it all out.  A rigorous testing of all
CodeHead and LGF products is underway right now and your timing is perfect.

 Any information Falcon users can provide on your experiences with CodeHead
software and the Falcon030 will be greatly appreciated. There are certain
things to remember when reporting compatibility problems.  The most important
information is whether the problem exists when the software is run on a bare
system.  Bare has only one meaning in this case: boot from a floppy with only
the program you want to test.  That's where the buck stops.  Add things one at
a time and report what you find out.  Add to that a description of your system
and your normal setup and you've got a proper bug, er... symtom report.  <g>

Have all of you folks received our mailing?

 ===Tomas===
 July 08, 1993 @  1:44:37 am PDT


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 5         Thu Jul 08, 1993
OUTRIDER [Terry]             at 10:30 EDT

Tomas,

Shouldn't you also report whether the incompatibilities exist in the ST-
compatibility modes in addition to the Falcon-specific modes?

Yes, I received the mailing.  Very nicely done!

     __
     /erry .\\ay

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 6         Thu Jul 08, 1993
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 11:26 EDT

Tomas,

Nope, no mailing here.  Awaiting recently ordered AV while John was in KC.
Besides, you know where I live now. <G>

Ken S.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 7         Thu Jul 08, 1993
D.GLISH [DAVE GLISH]         at 19:43 EDT

I have a question.  I recently received your mailing and was wondering since I
have sent my Warp 9 registration in can I just fill out the yellow order sheet
to upgrade or do I have to send in the disk?
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 8         Thu Jul 08, 1993
F.LAWRENCE2 [FRANK]          at 19:49 EDT

Tomas,

No mailings rec'd here yet and I'm looking everyday, expecting AV so my eye is
peeled.(my good one)

                              Frank


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 9         Fri Jul 09, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 01:55 EDT

MCH,

Thank you for the report.  I have just finished testing CodeKeys and PopIt
extensively on the Falcon.  I can find no problem with PopIt. It's completely
Falcon compatible as far as I can tell.

I was about to tell you the same about CodeKeys until I tried it in "true
color" mode.  It seems to crash in this mode when you try to record a macro
(although there's no problem with playing back existing macros).  Are you
using "true color" as your normal mode of operation?

As for your problems with PopIt, here are some other things to remember about
using it (on any system):

  REGACC.PRG must be in your AUTO folder.
  POPIT.ACC must be in the root of C (not in MultiDesk).
  You need to either copy your POPIT.CFG file to the new location
     or define new hotkeys before PopIt will pop up any ACCs.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 10        Fri Jul 09, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 02:03 EDT

Terry,
 Yes indeed, a full bug report would include that conditions under which the
symptoms occur.  Resolution, memory, CPU speed, monitor(s) used, internal
modifications, dongles attached, external hardware, TOS version, software
versions... all that stuff!  We should probably come up with an ASCII bug
report template.

Ken and Frank,
 The Avant Vectors still have not arrived.  I'm looking for a big shipment in
the next two weeks from Trade It.
  The mailing was done with a bulk mailer and this will result in sporadic
deliveries.  Be on the lookout for it.  It includes details on giveaways of
over $5000.00 worth of CodeHead products.  Everybody wins something!

Dave Glish,
 Sorry, you must send in your disk to receive the upgrade.  Not sending the
disk will delay your order, but you'll still be entered in the giveaways.
Only Calligrapher 2 to 3 upgrades are currently processed without a disk
exchange.

 ===Tomas===
 July 08, 1993 @ 10:56:23 pm PDT


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 11        Fri Jul 09, 1993
M.POCHE [Mick]               at 02:28 EDT

Tomas,

I too received the mailing, and am quite impressed. It's rare these days to
see such quality advertising for ST products, and in a strange way makes me
feel a little more secure about the state of Atari developers.

The prices are pretty impressive too!

- Mick

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 12        Fri Jul 09, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 06:23 EDT

Dave Glish,

Please send us your disk.  We need it for our inventory system.  As we've said
many times, you don't need to buy any special mailer or even pad the disk.
Just throw it in a regular envelope with a sheet of paper wrapped around it.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 16        Fri Jul 09, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 20:27 EDT

How about us registered users who bought a few titles before you sent out the
mailing? Will we be eligible to win a prize? I don't remember when I made the
purchase at CAF 93 if Tomas mentioned a drawing. I love to win stuff :-)

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 18        Fri Jul 09, 1993
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 22:31 EDT

Tomas,

Got the mailer today.  Nice looking panel flyers.

Thanks for the AV update.  Hmm, can't remember the date I emailed the order,
but out of curiousity, wondering if my name is in the hat for the drawings?
<G>  If I was too early, that's okay.

Ken S.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 19        Sat Jul 10, 1993
M.STEFANI [MCH]              at 00:48 EDT

John,

I took your and others' suggestions and tested CodeKeys and PopIt on a "bare"
system, booted from floppy.  They both worked flawlessly!  My problem, as you
surmised, was resolution-related.  I was running in 256-color mode, which not
only caused the previous problems but some other strange ones as well.  In 16-
color or other modes, no problem!

Thanks,

        Mark @ VISION Music

P.S. Would love to see WarpNine for my Falcon!  I really miss the overall
speed I'm used to even on my 1040STf (w/AdSpeed and WarpNine).
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 20        Sat Jul 10, 1993
R.MORROW10 [Bob M.]          at 02:43 EDT

Yes, I got the mailing and ordered CH Utilities!  So, for spending 29 cents
(if that), you gained about $30.  Not a bad return.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 21        Sat Jul 10, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 03:55 EDT

Matt,
 If you've registered a product, you should be getting one very shortly.

See Flat,
 All you have to do is mail or FAX it back.  No purchase necessary. We're
craaaaaaazy.  <g>

Ken,
 I'll ask John to remind me not to forget to remember to enter your name in
the drawing.  I started processing entries on the 30th of June.  If your name
isn't pulled from the CodeHead (we have a hollow ceramic ceremonial CodeHead
thingy) then your name stays in the drawing.  John will anounce the winners as
soon as he recovers from the $5000.00 figure in my last message.  <grin>

 ===Tomas===



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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 22        Sat Jul 10, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 07:28 EDT

When we were preparing the mailing, we were faced with a decision. We wanted
to have a giveaway as an incentive for people to order some of the things
they've been putting off purchasing.  But the post office takes anywhere from
2-7 weeks to deliver a bulk mailing.

We wanted to be fair to those who might not receive the mailing as early as
others, but still give an advantage to those who respond soon.  So we decided
to have five weekly drawings, starting the 1st of July.

We had the first drawing and John Markarian is the lucky winner of a
Calligrapher Gold.  As the time for the second drawing rolled around, I
realized that most folks on GEnie still hadn't started talking about the
mailing.  So we've pushed the other four drawings back a week.  It looks like
this was good timing because most of them seem to be getting out this week.

This means that most people still have a chance to get into the second
drawing.  Your name stays in the hat (the CodeHead) until the drawings are
over or you win something, so the earlier you respond, the more chance you'll
have.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 23        Sat Jul 10, 1993
D.D.MARTIN [Swampy]          at 08:56 EDT

Nice mailing, CodeHeads!  Very professional and high quality.  But I would not
expect less from the best!

Hugs...Swampy
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 25        Sat Jul 10, 1993
L.SMITH30 [LOUIS]            at 10:40 EDT

John do we also get that chance of winning prizes.   I have not received any
mailing from you should be on your list as I have registered all my purchases
from you.

Regards,

Louis (from The Rock of Gibraltar)

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 26        Sat Jul 10, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 17:51 EDT

Thanks Swampy, you sweet talker.

Louis,
 The Rock of Gibraltar?  Omigosh!  I remember shipping stuff to you. Certain
addresses just stand out.  <g>  Our mailing went out to addresses in North
America.  There is no reason why you can't Email to J.EIDSVOOG1 to be entered
in the drawing.  If you place an order we'll have to discuss the additional
shipping charges.  <g>  I'd sure like to see someone on "The Rock" sporting a
CodeHead T-shirt!

 ===Tomas===

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 28        Sat Jul 10, 1993
K.CAVAGHAN2 [OakSprings]     at 19:46 EDT

Lou,

Got my mailer here on the "best" coast <G> last week or so.  Still debating
whether or not to requistion the nesseccary funds from the boss.

... (WHAP... Oh, hi dear)  ....  <G>

Kent (in B.C)

ouch!
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 29        Sat Jul 10, 1993
M.SQUIRE [Mike]              at 20:07 EST

Tomas,

    >> Have all of you folks received our mailing?

 Yes, I did, just this week.

 ... Mike Squire


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 30        Sat Jul 10, 1993
M.RIVMAN1 [MATT]             at 23:02 EDT

Louis, [L.SMITH]

By all means, get a Codehead T-shirt.  (if you wear T-shirts)

They're excellent quality goods, _and_ they look great!!!

Me?  I like the Teal colored one!

Matt
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 31        Sat Jul 10, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 23:11 EDT

they once had a deal where they _gave_ you a t-shirt if you bought $200 worth
of stuff.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 32        Sat Jul 10, 1993
S.GARRIGUS [Scotty]          at 23:13 EDT

Tomas,

Got my MIDIMAX disk in the mail yesterday.

Thanks for your help!

 Scotty
 CMC & SRG Software

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 33        Sun Jul 11, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 02:50 EDT

Ken,
 The actual figure is $100.00 and the deal is on now while supplies last.
Spend a hundred bucks, get a CodeHead T-Shirt.  Did I mention they are high
quality Hanes T-shirts?  <g>

Scotty,
 Ah, good.  Have fun!  Upload us a MIDI file from time to time, OK?

 ===Tomas===


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 34        Sun Jul 11, 1993
M.JONES52 [Jonesy]           at 05:17 EDT

  Well, I guess maybe I should visit my post-office box this month - wouldn't
want to miss the drawing.  'Sides, it's past time to upgrade Cal.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 35        Sun Jul 11, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 11:52 EDT

Great mailing, guys!

Do I get a t-shirt (large, please) with my Callig order?

:)

Al

(That would make TWO 'Head shirts -- one to add to the one I bought from Tomas
at a show a while back -- but my wife has been jealous, and that would ensure
domestic harmony.)

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 37        Sun Jul 11, 1993
L.SMITH30 [LOUIS]            at 15:55 EDT

Hi Tomas,
        I'll be sending an E-Mail to John tonight.   I must find out what your
wonderful offer consists of.   I want one of those T-Shirts anyway....XXL !!

Regards,

Louis (from The Rock of Gibraltar)


Matt, [M.RIMAN1]

        Thanks for the advice.   I'm starting to think Codeheads are paying
commission too.

Louis (from The Rock of Gibraltar)

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 38        Sun Jul 11, 1993
F.BELL1 [Frank @ Home]       at 16:24 EDT

Tomas,

Did I understand your message correctly (number 26)?  Your mailings only went
out to North America?  Gee, now I really feel left out! Some of your most
loyal customers are in other parts of the world too.

Frank...
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 39        Sun Jul 11, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 19:29 EDT

Al,

Yes, you should get a T-shirt.  I'll check on it.  If your order's already
gone out we'll send you one.  Wouldn't want your wife inhibiting your ability
to "do your computer thing", especially if that thing might help promote our
products.  :^)

Kenne,

I think our free T-shirt deal at shows has always been for $100 worth of
product, not $200.  You may have been robbed, but all they got were a few
memory cells.  <grin>

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 41        Sun Jul 11, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 21:23 EDT

I know. I was joking. I got 2 t-shirts. Remember that BIG order I made a
couple years back?
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 43        Mon Jul 12, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 03:33 EDT

Frank,

You're absolutely right.  We have friends all over the globe and one in outer
space on a Starship or something.  <g>  Those addresses are a little harder to
handle in a "bulk" mailing.  Fear not however, those that hear about this
offer via modem can call the office and we'll fill out the order form and
enter you in the giveaway.  How's that? Have a credit card handy and figure a
little extra shipping to locations outside the US of A.

If you did get the mailing, make a copy for your users group and pass it
around.  Duplicate entries will be fed to the paper folding machine and
recycled as kitty litter. <grin>

Keene,
 ...wise guy.   :-)

 ===Tomas===



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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 44        Mon Jul 12, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 19:40 EDT

Tomas,
      That's nice of you guys to make the drawings available to registered
users who just send back the form. I think I'm already a winner with the great
prices I got at CAF so I'll pass on sending the form.
 Good luck to all. Nice prizes!
                                 John B.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 45        Tue Jul 13, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 07:05 EDT

As a favor to our foreign customers, I've uploaded an ASCII version of our
mailing to the GEnie library.  It will be file #29345 when it's released.  If
you've already received our mailing, you don't need to download this file.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 49        Wed Jul 14, 1993
S.GARRIGUS [Scotty]          at 00:03 EDT

Tomas,

Sure thing.  I'll upload a MIDI file or two every once in a while. :)

By the way, I asked John about getting a CodeHead T-Shirt for free since I
bought the Sound Canvas bundle but he never said "yes" or "no".  Whata ya say?
:)

 Scotty
 CMC & SRG Software

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 50        Wed Jul 14, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 02:56 EDT

Scotty,
 I say "what size and color?"

 ===Tomas===

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 53        Wed Jul 14, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 06:26 EDT

The Post Office guarantees bulk mail to be delivered some time within 7 weeks
of mailing.  We send it out in early June, about 5 weeks ago. I imagine the
rest of you will be receiving it soon.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 54        Wed Jul 14, 1993
NTACTONE [Ron Hunter]        at 06:46 EST

Jerry,
    Hummm.  I guess you probably have Falcons too.  Grin.


  >>I know plenty of Texans who feel it qualifies as a foreign         <<
  >>country....<G>                                                     <<
  Daniel,
    Yes, and we are PROUD of it.  Grin.
    Seriously, I have been TO other countries that seemed less foreign
 to me that some parts of the US, San Francisco, for example.

 Alan,
    But you are only a short frisbee toss from California..

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 56        Thu Jul 15, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 16:08 EDT

We held our second drawing today.  There will be three more -- July 22, 29,
and August 5.  There's still plenty of time to take advantage of the special
prices and chances to win free software.

Congratulations to our winners so far:

 1st Drawing - July 1st
 -----------------------

 1st Prize - Calligrapher Gold:

           John Markarian

 2nd Prize - Choice of CodeKeys or LookIt & PopIt:

  Kenneth O. Kirby      Jim Johnson
  Donald J. Wilhelm     Jonnie Santos
  Charles O. Fines      Chris Gray
  Jonathan Ring         Carson Underwood
  Sherrie Buchridge     Glenn E. Carlson
  Brad Beck             Charles S. Dyson
  Wolfgang Baba         Patrick Morales
  H. E. Mark Hagler     Michael D. Mortilla
  Ron Elliott           Lewis Moon
  Bradford C. Vokey     Pat Rox

 2nd Drawing - July 15th
 -----------------------

 1st Prize - Calligrapher Gold:

         Carl J. Verbanac

 2nd Prize - Choice of CodeKeys or LookIt & PopIt:

  John M. Cody          Donald F. Neff
  Michael Imada         Jerry Davis
  Mario Sala            Michael Lueg
  Daniel Anderson       Michael Wassil
  Marcus Arreguin       Tom Derrick
  Paul Muehlbauer       Bill Waggener
  Peter Bullock         Joe Mellon
  Stephen Crawford      Johnny A. Padilla
  Richard Dekker        Al Fasoldt
  David F. Lackey       William J. Gansen

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 57        Thu Jul 15, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 18:45 EDT

Sheesh! I won a prize! I'll take Lookit/Popit, since I already have (and use
hourly -- the heck with daily) the alternative, CodeKeys.

Al

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 58        Thu Jul 15, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 21:33 EDT

Lookit/Popit,
              Is the author Doug Harrison, the same Doug Harrison
 that wrote Opus?
 I purchased  Lookit/Popit at CAF and I must say my only disapointment
 is that Lookit has it's own file selector.   I'm so used to using LGS
 that I really dislike to see anything else show up. I am sure that no
 change is planned but I thought I'd let you know my feelings.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 59        Thu Jul 15, 1993
OUTRIDER [Terry]             at 22:23 EDT

See Flat,

You don't have to use LookIt's file selector (I don't).  I don't recall where
the option is to use the system file selector, but it shouldn't be too hard to
find.  (Should be in TFM. :)

     __
     /erry .\\ay

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Message 60        Thu Jul 15, 1993
D.D.MARTIN [Swampy]          at 22:33 EDT

Poop!  I didn't see my name on the list.  %^)

Hey, guys.  I need a new tee shirt!  XXL please.  LOL

Hugs...Swampy
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Message 61        Thu Jul 15, 1993
S.GARRIGUS [Scotty]          at 22:52 EDT

Tomas,

Cool!  My very own CodeHead T-shirt!  I'll wear it everyday! :)

Hmmm... let's see... I wear a size Large, and do you have it in black?  If
not, how about white?

Thanks!

 Scotty
 CMC & SRG Software

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Message 62        Fri Jul 16, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 02:07 EDT

Scotty,
 Any color you want as long as it's turquoise or ash gray.  Black or white
would look cool too.  Maybe in the next batch.  <g>

 ===Tomas===


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Message 63        Fri Jul 16, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 03:03 EDT

Terry,
      I checked in Options and you were right. I should have at least
 looked before making that statement. I've bought so much stuff lately
 that I'm not using any of it properly! :-) I often do that but eventually
 sit down with the manual and take it one step at a time. Just been too
 busy to do it. Thanks for the info. I really appretiate it.

 John B.


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Message 64        Fri Jul 16, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 04:00 EDT

See Flat,

Yes, Doug wrote both LookIt/PopIt and Opus.  If you don't want to use LookIt's
file selector, just turn it off (see page 20).

D.D.,

Are you coming up to Asheville?  I think there might be a new T-Shirt with
your name on it.  :^)

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 65        Fri Jul 16, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 04:08 EDT

In some ways LOOKIT'S file selector is MUCH better than LGS. Having the
folders in one window with a folder's files in another is nice. I wish LGS had
that. I'd also like the "PATHS" visible at the same time in LGS along with a
more flexible FIND option. As it is you have to hook into Maxifile. And while
Maxifile's SEARCH feature is the best I've seen on the ST it's about a step
behind SUPERBOMERANG on the Mac where you can search a file with fields than
can be LIKE, CONTAINS, BEGINS WITH along with keyword searches for file
contents.

LGS is good for what it does and the amount of memory it uses. I've  actually
nothing bad to say about it.
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Message 66        Fri Jul 16, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 18:42 EDT

John E,
       Doug sure writes some nice stuff. I use Opus (registered :-)
 on a daily basis. I have now started using Lookit. It amazes me how
 fast text can scroll. I have no idea anymore what is making
 everything faster. Warp 9 must have something to do with it. :-)

Kenne,
      It's not that I think Lookit's file selector is not great. It
 is that LGS is already all set up and I love just hitting a function
 key to instantly go where I want too.

Thanks all.
              John B.

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Message 67        Fri Jul 16, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 21:04 EDT

Yeah, that's what I figured, Be Flat Sharp.

File selectors just haven't quite made it yet. SuperBomerang is close, though.
I don't think it can be managed on an ST.

I can picture a cross between LOOKIT's selector and LGS with the addition of
radio buttons that can be assigned paths. Add the ability to load and save the
path info along with hooks into another program that loads setups for each
application (ala CODEKEYS) and it would be really sweet.

Then all that you would need are hooks into DA's like Maxifile and a real
trick File/Text Finder ACC.

But I'm dreaming.
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Message 68        Fri Jul 16, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 21:06 EDT

Ooh! And there could be two default radio buttons. One is the default path and
the other is the last path.
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Message 69        Fri Jul 16, 1993
D.D.MARTIN [Swampy]          at 23:11 EDT

Awwww CodeHead John!!  We talked about making Asheville.  It would be fun to
see everyone, but just can't make it.

Guess I'll just have to wear my old tee shirt for another year, huh?

Hugs...Swampy
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 70        Sat Jul 17, 1993
J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ]     at 14:01 EST

        Everyone does remember LGIS does have 19 user defined paths
 available, don't they?

 >> Joe M <<

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Message 71        Sat Jul 17, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 18:44 EDT

The path sets can't be saved and loaded. Also the paths are on a separate
screen along with the predefined extenders. You have to remember your Fkey
path assignments. The system I'm imagining isn't as useful as LGS because it
takes up a lot more memory.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 72        Sat Jul 17, 1993
S.GARRIGUS [Scotty]          at 19:17 EDT

Tomas,

Oh, boo hoo... no black or white?  Well, that's okay I like gray too. Ash gray
it is then!  :)  Thank you!  Thank you!  Thank you!

 Scotty
 CMC & SRG Software

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Message 73        Sat Jul 17, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 20:51 EDT

Scotty,
 'SOK.  Let me think, you said grey/large, right?  <g>


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Message 74        Sat Jul 17, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 21:19 EDT

Jey M,
      That is the main reason I can no longer live without LGS.
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Message 75        Sat Jul 17, 1993
OUTRIDER [Terry]             at 21:39 EDT

Actually, LGS has _18_ user-defineable paths, but who's counting?  ;^)

     __
     /erry .\\ay

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Message 76        Sun Jul 18, 1993
J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ]     at 09:47 EST

Message     71, Sat Jul 17, 1993 K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]


    > The path sets can't be saved and loaded.                      <

         It's time to read the Doc's again. <grin>  Not only can they
 be saved, they can be inter-changed with MaxiFile.

 >> Joe M <<


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Message 77        Sun Jul 18, 1993
D.GLISH [DAVE GLISH]         at 13:35 EDT

I will be sending it out this weekend.  Thanks for the quick reply. I've been
procrastinating about sending in for the upgrade.  Now looks like a good time.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 78        Mon Jul 19, 1993
C.WARD7 [Craig]              at 22:22 EDT

I haven't received any mailing and I think I'm in the CodeHeads' backyard (Los
Angeles South Bay).  I should be on the mailing list from the TOS 2.06 upgrade
I had installed last year (yes, I returned the card).  I expect the problem is
that the post office doesn't forward bulk mail and I moved this spring.

Is there an on-line mailbox for the CodeHeads that I can send a change of
address to?

                Craig
 --
 02:22 p.m. Sunday 07/18/93.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 81        Tue Jul 20, 1993
S.GARRIGUS [Scotty]          at 19:33 EDT

Tomas,

Yep, grey/large or even large/grey for that matter. <g>

Thanks again!

 Scotty
 CMC & SRG Software

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Message 82        Tue Jul 20, 1993
W.MAYO2                      at 20:49 EDT

Greetings from Florida. Thanks for the super product WARP9. I just wanted to
ask about a Mac init or control panel accessory that can turn on/off an
accelerator. I have the Fast Tech T25, and I really need something to change
speed on the fly in Mac mode as well as ST mode (already doable). Jim said he
was talking with you guys about it once. My MIDI software won't run at 25 MHz
w/MegaTalk, so I would love to switch speeds without rebooting. Might there be
a call that can be made to the software. It doesn't even have to be System 7
runable. Thanks.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 83        Wed Jul 21, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 17:58 EDT

Craig,

Yes, you can send it to my GE address.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 84        Thu Jul 22, 1993
S.GARRIGUS [Scotty]          at 19:47 EDT

I got my CodeHead T-Shirt!  I got my CodeHead T-Shirt!

Now I can write music and program in style.  You know, my music even seems to
sound better and my programs seem to run more efficiently. It must be that
CodeHead magic rubbing off! <G>

Thanks guys!

 Scotty
 CMC & SRG Software

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 85        Thu Jul 22, 1993
F.LAWRENCE2 [FRANK]          at 23:21 EDT

I got my Bulk mailing today in Oklahoma, so they are really on the way. BTW
nice layouts Codeheads.

                            Frank
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 86        Fri Jul 23, 1993
L.TRAPANI [Lou @Machine]     at 00:56 EDT

Scotty,

        Congratulations on your CodeHead T-Shirt purchase! You will be amazed
on what you can achieve while wearing it! ;)

                                --Lou T.--
                Written: Friday, July 23, 1993 00:30 a.m. EDT

By the way, non-Atari computer users have commented that they really like the
shirt too!

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Message 87        Fri Jul 23, 1993
M.POCHE [Mick]               at 02:37 EDT

Lou -

You should've seen my 'sixty-something' year old father trying to read the
product names on the back of the shirt.

Even after he figured out what it said, he still didn't know what they meant.
:)

- Mick

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Message 88        Fri Jul 23, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 03:08 EDT

       .    _  .
       |\_|/__/|
      / / \/ \  \
     /__|O||O|__ \
    |/_ \_/\_/ _\ |
    | | (____) | ||
    \/\___/\__/  //
    (_/         ||
     |          ||\
      \        //_/
       \______//
      __|| __||
     (____(____)
     Happy, happy.

Ahem,

From the people who brought you the famous CodeHead t-shirt... <grin>

== Announcing this weeks winners in the CodeHead $5000 Giveaway! ==

FIRST PRIZE, a complete copy of Calligrapher Gold 3 goes to:

>  Jack D. Seigler of San Antonio, Texas!

SECOND PRIZE, a choice of LookIt & PopIt or CodeKeys or goes to TWENTY
fortunate folks!  And they are:

(in absolutely random order)

 Henry K. Van Eyken
 Gordie Meyer
 Daniel C. Gouthro
 Russ Horton
 Art Banet
 Craig E. Kerns
 Nick Streit
 Oscar Bookbinder
 Joseph A. Boychak
 David Fox
 Christopher Browne
 Tim Hebel
 Dr. Richard Vargas
 Dan Mugridge
 Daniel Galant
 MS T. Leutzinger
 David Lowe
 Alain Daigle
 Elery S. Oxford
 Shaun C. Feeney

Congratulations to all 21 winners!

 ===Tomas===

PS: Everyone, come meet John and Julie Eidsvoog at the Blue Ridge AtariFest
'93 this weekend!

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Message 89        Fri Jul 23, 1993
F.LAWRENCE2 [FRANK]          at 20:47 EDT

Muse,

Can I order just a T Shirt and have it sent with AV when it gets here?

                        'Sixty-something' Frank
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 90        Fri Jul 23, 1993
R.MORROW10 [Bob M.]          at 23:10 EDT

I just ordered an ICD AdSpeed STe which should arrive here in a week or so.
(hopefully).  I installed TOS 2.06 in my STe a year ago and just recently saw
something in the TEC manual about not being able to use the normal TEC with an
accelerator.  While I don't have a TEC, is there anything I need to do to
accomodate the AdSpeed board, or is it really "plug and play"?
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 91        Fri Jul 23, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 23:38 EDT

Bob Morrow,

There is no conflict between AdSpeed and the TEC.  The manual was in error.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 92        Fri Jul 23, 1993
NTACTONE [Ron Hunter]        at 23:53 EST

Bob M.
    You should have no problem with the AdSpeed STE unless your STE is
 one of those with the CPU chip soldered in (surface mount).  Since
 the STE mounts the TOS 2.06 chips in the regular ROM sockets, and has
 no extra wiring, and the CPU isn't nearby, there should be no problem
 at all.


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 93        Sat Jul 24, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 03:00 EDT

Hey, guys! Got my T-shirt and my Lookit & Popit software! Thanks!

The L/P disk is munged, so I'm mailing it back by itself, if that's OK. Two
STs, one TT, and two PCs were unable to read the disk.

Al

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Message 94        Sat Jul 24, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 04:15 EDT

Sixty Something,

Yes, you may add a t-shirt to your order.  You're already getting one aren't
you?  It would be best to phone me at the office with the specifics.

 ===Tomas===

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Message 95        Sat Jul 24, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 05:17 EDT

Rob,
 As you said, if you have an STe, then you don't have a TEC in there at all.
The AdSpeed issue concerned the TEC card installation and not TOS 2.06 itself.

Al,
 That disk has to make it through 3 ST's before it goes out the door. You have
a gorilla for a mailman or what?  <g>

 ===Tomas===

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 96        Sat Jul 24, 1993
NTACTONE [Ron Hunter]        at 10:01 EST

 >> That disk has to make it through 3 ST's before it goes out the    <<
  >>door. You  have a gorilla for a mailman or what?  <g>              <<

 Maybe they just put it on the grill for a few minutes, and then put
 it near the starter on the little delivery truck...  Used to wonder
 why every time I transported my old 8 bit floppy drive, I had trouble
 with it reading for a few days, and then it would clear up.  To be
 very sure it didn't get broken, I was putting it on the floor in the
 right front.  guess where the STARTER is...


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 97        Sat Jul 24, 1993
M.STEFANI [MCH]              at 11:25 EDT

CodeHead,

Is there a "projected" time for release of the Falcon030 version of WarpNine?
Can't wait!  Just curious...

                Mark @ VISION Music
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 98        Sat Jul 24, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 19:21 EDT

There is yet no scheduled release date for the next version of Warp 9.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 99        Sun Jul 25, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 04:26 EDT

Tomas,

No, but maybe the mailman has a degausser in the back of his truck.

Al

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 100       Sun Jul 25, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 13:37 EDT

John E.
        Since it has been mentioned that Falcon Warp9 is basically
 ready. why has Codeheads decided not to release it yet. Will this
 version only be Falcon compatible (i.e no features waranting an
 upgrade for non-Falcon users) and  there are not enough Falcon
 computers out there to make it worth the trouble of manufacturing
 the new product. I've decided not to get a Falcon so I'm just fine.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 101       Sun Jul 25, 1993
CODEHEAD [Charles]           at 15:05 EDT

See Flat,

  The Falcon version of Warp 9 is working, but it still has a few loose ends
that we need to tie up before release.  Since I've been playing with Al
Jarreau for the last 3 weeks in Europe, and will be playing with him for
another 3 1/2 weeks in the US (starting this Tuesday), I haven't been able to
work on Warp 9 -- so it's basically in a holding pattern right now.  By the
way, there are some new features in this version of Warp 9 that will be of
interest to non-Falcon users (mostly improvements to the screensaver).

  >> ...there are not enough Falcon computers out there to make it
  >> worth the trouble of manufacturing the new product. I've decided
  >> not to get a Falcon so I'm just fine.

  This is definitely another factor in our business decisions about Falcon-
specific products.

- Charles @ CodeHead Tech
  Sunday, July 25, 1993  12:01 pm

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Message 103       Sun Jul 25, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 20:57 EDT

See Flat,

We also intend to achieve SpeedoGDOS compatibility before releasing an update
to Warp 9.

John
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Message 104       Mon Jul 26, 1993
M.STEFANI [MCH]              at 00:04 EDT

OK!  Now I'm REALLY curious!  Just what is Charles' instrument/area of musical
expertise, anyway?  I keep reading about "in Europe, on tour with Al Jarreau,"
etc...).  I had the pleasure of briefly meeting Charles during a San Jose
Atari Festival a couple of years ago, and have been a longtime admirer of his
programming achievements.

Just curious...

        Mark @ VISION Music
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Message 105       Mon Jul 26, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 01:40 EDT

Mark,
 Charles plays the guitar, and well.

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Message 106       Mon Jul 26, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 03:54 EDT

Yeah, he sure can! Whatever happened to whatsername from Hiroshima?

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Message 107       Mon Jul 26, 1993
CODEHEAD [Charles]           at 12:34 EDT

Kenne,

  Hiroshima is carrying on without me; I was going to try to continue doing
both gigs, but there were some scheduling conflicts and I had to bow out.
June's doing fine, by the way.  :)

- Charles @ CodeHead Tech

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 108       Mon Jul 26, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 14:25 EDT

Cool!

Larry Williams is doing keyboards, right? What's his stack these days.

The last time I heard him he was using Prophet Vand maybe a Yamaha  electric
grand. CP70?

Man, I miss that band.
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Message 109       Mon Jul 26, 1993
CODEHEAD [Charles]           at 18:17 EDT

  Neil Larsen and Larry Williams are both playing keyboards, and Larry doubles
on sax.  I'm not sure what Larry has in his rack these days, although I know
he uses some sort of Roland master keyboard.

  This is a really good band, and the show leaves lots of room for playing.  I
get three (count 'em) featured solos in the show, so you know I'm having a
good time.  :)

- Charles @ CodeHead Tech

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 110       Mon Jul 26, 1993
K.HOUSER [Kevin MQ Def]      at 22:23 EDT

Charles,

Would wearing a CodeHead T-Shirt be proper etiquette for the Al J. concert at
Chastain Park? C-Ya there!

John,
 I hear you were tooting your horn in Asheville this weekend while I was
tooting my trumpet in Boone. <G>

Keep up the good work, have lotsa fun, and all that stuff. I'll wait for W9 to
be Falconized for the masses. <G>

--Kevin
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 111       Tue Jul 27, 1993
M.RIVMAN1 [MATT]             at 00:27 EDT

Charles,

I might have missed any reports, sooo....  How did the gig in Europe go?  I've
read about the featured solos, so I guess your getting to be creative, but did
you get to have any fun _off_ stage?

"keep on keepin' on"

Matt
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 112       Tue Jul 27, 1993
M.STEFANI [MCH]              at 02:05 EDT

Tomas,

Thanks for the info on Charles.  If he plays guitar even half as well as he
programs, he must be a "monster." <g>

        Mark @ VISION Music
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 113       Tue Jul 27, 1993
J.KOLLER2 [John]             at 22:02 EDT

I'm trying to get some information on the TEC board.  Since your prices are so
low, I figured I should give it some serious consideration. The info I'm
trying to get is general.  My first question is, can I fit the board into a
1040STE. Second what are the spec's on the TEC unit. I've looked for a old
press release in the GEnie libraries, but didn't see anything that caught my
eye.  Any information would be grateful.

Thanks,
                        John Koller(J.KOLLER2)
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 114       Tue Jul 27, 1993
J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er]  at 23:59 EDT

  John,

On a STe you don't need the board, just the chips.  (At least on the majority
of them).  And most of the ROM chips are in sockets so it is a simple matter
of swapping the chips and changing three jumpers.  It took me under 10 minutes
to do mine.

But keep in mind that some of the older (original?) STe's have the 28 pin
chips in them and you need to remove them and add the 32 pin sockets before
you can put the TOS 2.06 chips in.  And I think there is some modifications to
the motherboard also but I could be wrong about that.

But look in your machine before you decide.

                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                ^^^^    JSW    ^^^^
                ^^^^   ST'er   ^^^^
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Tuesday, July 27, 1993 - 11:52:58 pm
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 115       Wed Jul 28, 1993
G.LEONE [Gerry]              at 00:44 EDT

Another question about the TEC board -- I read an archive on the ICD board
that there was some compatibility problems at one time between the TEC board
and their AdSpeed.

Was that ever resolved?  Or...?

  -Gerry
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 116       Wed Jul 28, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 02:41 EDT

John Koller,

Your 1040STe does not require the TEC card.  All you need are the chips and
instructions on putting them in and setting the jumpers. We sell the chips
with a TEC manual and a disk of utilities for $60.00 and shipping.  This isn't
one of the specials, but I just saved you $58.15.  <grin>

 ===Tomas===


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 117       Wed Jul 28, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 02:53 EDT

Gerry,

>> TEC board and... AdSpeed.

Yes, all is resolved.  One or two folks tried to solder a TEC to the _top_ of
their AdSpeed.  This is a no-no.  If the AdSpeed is in a socket we recommend
the CPU Bridge version of the card which will sandwich in under the
accelerator.  No worries.

 ===Tomas===

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Message 118       Fri Jul 30, 1993
G.LEONE [Gerry]              at 00:32 EDT

Thanks for the AdSpeed info, Tomas!

  -Gerry

(That's one of the problems with reading old archives of RTs... you always see
the problems, but somehow the solution never shows up there, too.)
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 119       Fri Jul 30, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 12:55 EDT

We held our fourth of five drawings yesterday.  Congratulations to our
winners.  Next Thursday will be our final drawing so there's still a chance to
win!

 4th Drawing -- July 29, 1993
 ----------------------------

 1st Prize - Calligrapher Gold:

  Roy E. Dean

 2nd Prize - Choice of CodeKeys or LookIt & PopIt:

  Frank Musacchio
  John Godbey
  Ethan Mings
  Andrzej Heyduk
  Irwin I. Levy
  Dan Duvall
  Eric Battersby
  Walter A. Las
  Bob Binder
  Vern Cottbreu
  Greg Clapp
  Mark S. Farmer
  Ryk van Donselaak
  Eric P. Jensen
  Gordon McGhie
  Mike Hill
  Jan Halsema
  Ernest Higginson
  Robert J. Anisko
  John A. Koller
  Mitchel Y. Evans

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Message 121       Sat Jul 31, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 03:30 EDT

Kenne@SFRT,
 Gee, did you send in your registration cards?  Have you moved? Call me, I'll
'win' you a CodeHead button, you lucky guy.

 ===Tomas===

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Message 122       Sun Aug 01, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 00:09 EDT

What a pal!

Do I have a registration card???

I suspect there's a whole drawer with my reg cards.

<snarf>
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Message 123       Sun Aug 01, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 13:48 EDT

Kenne,
 <Snarf> is a an eating verb isn't it?
 I know you have a slew of CodeHead software, but I'll be durned if I can find
you in the database.  The cards are entered in the computer and discarded
(recycled - this _is_ California).  We got caught up with ALL the backup in
entering the cards before the mailing was prepared.  It's possible that your
entry in the reg_card database was lost or maliciously removed.  <g>
Correcting that problem will take some effort on your part.  You can send me a
photocopy all of your original disks, send the disks in for a tally or bring
them all to Glendale.  Proof man, I need proof.

 ===Tomas===


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Message 124       Sun Aug 01, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 16:08 EDT

John E.
       I've been looking for this info for a few days and I can't
 put my finger on it so I thought I'd ask you since you know just
 about everything I need to know. :-)

 I just purchased a used Mega ST4. I got it for the purpose of
 eventualy installing a T030 in it when I have enough money. At
 the present time however I am stuck with TOS 1.2. I changed the
 TOS in my original 1040ST (4meg) to 1.4  on you reccomendation.
 Now that I'm testing this mega with a Hard disk I can't believe
 how slow access to the drive is. I don't remember that TOS1.0
 was this slow. How soon we forget maybe?
 Question.
           What programs should I run to enhance TOS 1.2
 I don't want to invest in new set of TOS chips as I will get 2.06
 on the Fastech board.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 125       Sun Aug 01, 1993
M.HILL13 [Mike]              at 16:13 EDT

Codeheads,

Thanks for such great software! I own quite a few Codehead program (just
noticed that my name was drawn in your Contest!!!!! Yeah!!!) and use them
exclusively!

The club Im in (Cin'tari) always has a booth at Mist each year, the past two
years we would make X amount PD disks to sell at the show. The problem was
that we would never make enough disks of the ones that were popular, and we
would always go home with tons of disks we couldn't sell.  We also had
problems with quality of duplication since the members that did the disks in
the past used a Blitz cable.

Well this year I did things differently!  I decided to only make 12 different
PD disks for the show.  I used CodeCopy to load them and save them in CCP form
to my hard drive.  I then created a Hotwire menu that had the 12 disks listed.
You would put a blank formatted disk into the drive, click on the Hotwire
entry for the disk the customer wanted and Hotwire would tell Codecopy to load
the disk image write the disk, verify it, and then exit back to Hotwire.  All
with one mouse click!

This had HUGE benefits for the club, first we were able to sell more disks
than we ever had before (and I only made 12 different PD Disks for the show!
Previously we made 30-50), secondly the problem with not having enough of one
disk was resolved because we would create the disk on the fly when the user
asked for it.  And finally our quality problem was resolved since Codecopy did
a verification on the disk!

The only thing that would have been better is another system set up to run the
Hotwire/Codecopy combo (My system was the only one making disks, the others
were doing demos).  I think our club will have to order Codehead Utilities and
Hotwire before the next show so we can be even more effective!

Thanks for the great software Codeheads!  I always seem to find more uses for
your software every day!

Mike

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Message 126       Sun Aug 01, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 18:28 EDT

See Flat,

With TOS 1.02, you'll want Fatspeed to help out on disk speed, and either
PinHead or Warp 9 to fastload your programs.

Mike Hill,

That's exactly how we have our URW fonts setup, both in the office and at
shows.  We have a couple of menus which allow us to make any of the URW font
disks in about 20 seconds (to pre-formatted disks). I'm glad you can also make
use of the same setup.

Another thing you might consider is to set up CodeRam entries in your HotWire
menu.  Using a command line and the same set of CCP files you already have,
you can create and load a RAM disk image of your master disks in about 2
seconds, all by clicking once or pressing a key.  It's a very quick way to get
at any individual file on your master disks.

John
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Message 127       Sun Aug 01, 1993
NTACTONE [Ron Hunter]        at 20:04 EST

Tomas,
    I did not receive the mailing either, and Charles and John KNOW I
 have most of your utilities...  Grin.  If I am not in your database,
 it needs work, since I have done updates on some of these packages..


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Message 128       Sun Aug 01, 1993
M.HILL13 [Mike]              at 23:05 EDT

John,

Thanks for the tip on using CodeRam with my Codecopy/Hotwire setup. I wish I
would have thought of that before the show!  Every once in awhile I needed to
refer to a file on one of the disks.

You mentioned that you write your URW fonts in about 20 seconds to a formatted
disk.  Are these disks close to full?  It seemed like my disks took longer to
write (they were preformatted).  Is there a way to turn off the verify option?
Possibly some trick I missed in the manual?

Course next time I do this at a show I might trying changing the setup so the
CCP files are archived and have the hotwire entry uncompact the CCP file (with
ZIP or LZH) and then have it fire CodeCopy.  That way I can fit more CCP files
on the hard drive.

Mike

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Message 129       Sun Aug 01, 1993
G.LEONE [Gerry]              at 23:22 EDT


 >MUSE [Tomas]                 at 13:48 EDT

 >photocopy all of your original disks, send the disks in for a tally or bring

Curiosity question:  don't xerox machines contain high magnetic fields?
(Don't ask me why I think this.)  Couldn't photocopying disks screw them up?

  -Gerry
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Message 130       Mon Aug 02, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 01:12 EDT

Ron,
 It happens, you know how wierd computers can be.  <g>  We keep several
separate databases.  The only way to get in the registration database is to
mail in a reg card.  If something happens in the process what can I say?
Updating (by sending in a disk) wouldn't necessarily correct an error in the
reg. files.  I had thought that the databases were combined for the mailout,
maybe not.  I spoke to a buddy that I _know_ is in the database and he hasn't
gotten it either. We tried to reach everyone who has ever purchased a CodeHead
product.

So anyway, we'll be happy to correct any errors in our records.

Gerry,

You're right.  Photocopying is a bad idea.  Now that I think of it, it doesn't
even prove ownership.  Don't run 'em through the FAX machine either.  <grin>

 ===Tomas===



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Message 131       Mon Aug 02, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 02:56 EDT

 I've got FastCache and Warp9. I guess it's a lost cause. It's hard
 to slow down once you've sped up! :-)
 Is Fatspeed better or different than FastCache
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Message 132       Mon Aug 02, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 03:27 EDT

Ah, the ol' "you're not in the database" trick."

No problem. I'll bring the _two_ boxes of disks to Glendale.

You folks have any tricks up your sleeves? You usually debut a new  (or
updated) product at the show.

Btw, how do you like John's new poster? Pretty cool, eh?
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Message 133       Mon Aug 02, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 03:27 EDT

See Flat,

FatSpeed, maybe. Not sure if it works on 1.02. It's made for 1.00.

TurboDOS for sure; that's an old French Atari Corp. program that makes your HD
sing.

Al

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Message 134       Mon Aug 02, 1993
NTACTONE [Ron Hunter]        at 07:05 EST

Tomas,
    I have photocopied disks before, and it didn't harm them, but
 FAXing IS a problem.  Grin.
    As for those registration cards.... You mean you are supposed to
 MAIL them?  I fill them out and they sit around until my wife tosses
 them out.  I almost NEVER mail one.  But, hey, I DO read manuals...
 Grin.

 You might consider merging your update and registration databases...

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Message 135       Mon Aug 02, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 10:13 EDT

Kenne,

Yes, we have tricks up our sleeves.  <g>

Ron,

 > ...I DO read manuals...

Well, that's better than some!

  ===Tomas===



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Message 136       Mon Aug 02, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 19:12 EDT

Kenne & Ron,

I'm sending you E-Mail with the address we used in our bulk mailing. Perhaps
it's an outdated address.

Mike Hill,

The reason our URW fonts only take about 20 seconds or less with CodeCopy is
that they're small.  They don't even fill a single sided disk.  We preformat
the disks with Interleave 11 and they fly quite quickly through the write and
verify stages.

If you're filling double-sided disks, the best speed you can get is by
preformatting the disks with MaxiFile's "skew" option (or an equally fast
formatter).  Even so, it might take a minute or two to write & verify a full
disk.

We use a Blitz cable at the office.  It's the fastest way to make disks, but
since it doesn't verify, we still use CodeCopy on another machine just to
verify.  I wish I could get the code for the Blitz software.  I'd add it to
CodeCopy to verify the disk in the same operation.

See Flat,

I don't know anything about FastCache.  I know Fatspeed works and I trust it
implicitly.

Al,

TurboDOS is a known problem causing program.  I wouldn't recommend it.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 137       Mon Aug 02, 1993
M.HILL13 [Mike]              at 22:16 EDT

John,

Yes our disks were double sided and quite full.  I did use Maxifile to format
the disks and did use the SKEW option.  I was hoping there was some trick you
had up your sleave to speed up the operation even further.  Is it possible to
not do a verify pass in Codecopy?

We use to use the Syncromesh Copier (a commercial Blitz clone) and a Blitz
Copier, but always had alot of problems with our copies not working.

Codecopy worked flawlessly though!

Mike
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 138       Tue Aug 03, 1993
NTACTONE [Ron Hunter]        at 00:14 EST

 >>possible to not do a verify pass in Codecopy?                      <<
  >>We use to use the Syncromesh Copier (a commercial Blitz clone) and <<
  >>a Blitz                                                            <<

 Yes, but then you will likely have the SAME problems you ha with the
 Blitz copies, no verify means errors are NOT corrected.  What's a
 disk with a bad copy worth?

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Message 139       Tue Aug 03, 1993
L.TRAPANI [Lou @Machine]     at 01:45 EDT

        I never had any problems with disks that I photocopied (though my
floppy drives can never read those paper photocopied disks <grin>). I guess
you can take tracing paper and trace your disks if the photocopier is not a
good idea <grin, again>.

        I'll stop.


                                --Lou T.--
                Written: Tuesday, August 03, 1993 00:55 a.m. EDT

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 140       Tue Aug 03, 1993
R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson]    at 18:11 EDT

  I know a lot of people that got bit by TurboDOS. It wiped out their FAT
tables and a lot of other nasty stuff. I would not suggest using it. It is a
dangerous program.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 141       Tue Aug 03, 1993
J.BRENNER1 [See Flat]        at 23:45 EDT

Al,
   I've downloaded Fatspeed. It said in the doc that it was helpfull for
versions up to 1.02 (4/7/89).

John E,
       Thanks for all the help. I've re-installed Pinhead before Warp9. :-)
That's the way I used to have it before getting TOS 1.4 imy 1040. Doing that
and adding Fatspeed seemed to help immensly. Thank God (and Charles) for Desk
Manager as it saves a lot of time depending on which computer I happen to be
using with the Hard Drive.



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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 142       Wed Aug 04, 1993
M.HILL13 [Mike]              at 01:09 EDT

 >> Previously Ron Hunter Wrote:
 >>
 >> Yes, but then you will likely have the SAME problems you ha with the
 >> Blitz copies, no verify means errors are NOT corrected.  What's a
 >> disk with a bad copy worth?

Well I agree to some degree.  The Blitz and Syncromesh do some hardware
trickery and copy a disk while it reads it.  I had a Syncromesh and another
member had a blitz and the club had nothing but trouble with em.  Just copying
with Fcopy and no verify was more reliable than the blitz syncromesh.  Id bet
Codecopy with no verify would be just as reliable.  But I couldn't see how to
tell Codecopy to do just a write with no verify.

If Codecopy can write a disk without verification I would like to try that
before the club goes to the next show.

Mike

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 143       Wed Aug 04, 1993
NTACTONE [Ron Hunter]        at 06:51 EST

 >>  If Codecopy can write a disk without verification I would like   <<
  >>to try that  before the club goes to the next show.                <<

 Mike,
    WHY?  There is nothing but TROUBLE to be gained by making copies
 tht might be in error.  Why do you think they DO write verify by
 default?  Floppies are prone to write errors, which are usually
 correctable by an immediate retry, but you won't KNOW if you don't do
 write verify.  Sure, it takes extra time to do this, but does the
 saved time justify a bad copy?
   Running without write verify is like driving your car 50,000 miles
 on a set of tires and then taking out the spare to make room in the
 trunk for luggage for your vacation....


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 144       Wed Aug 04, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 07:24 EDT

OK, OK, I won't recommend T-TOS any more! I used it for years with TOS 1.0 and
loved it, but I *did* have a trashed drive or two on the BBS.

Al

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 145       Wed Aug 04, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 07:42 EDT

I *always* have verify turned on.

...

T-TOS? I think I meant T-DOs (TurboDOS...)

argh.

Al

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 146       Wed Aug 04, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 13:22 EDT

Mike,

No, CodeCopy always does a verify pass.  We've never spent much time on
CodeCopy's interface.  Most of it was written one day in the fall of '88 after
we redid 400 G+Plus packages when we discovered what Procopy had done to the
disks.

John

P.S. No, you're not dreaming -- we actually had 400 pieces of one product in
one place at one time, ready to fill an order.  Now we're overjoyed if a
distributor orders 30 assorted pieces of our 20 products.  <sigh>
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 147       Wed Aug 04, 1993
R.IRBY3 [Roy]                at 20:44 EDT

What exactly do you have to do to become eligible for these drawings? Or
buttons?  I have purchased and registered Warp 9 and Hotwire. And as if you
haven't heard it enuf already.....Pleeeze Warp my Falcon.

Roy.
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Message 148       Thu Aug 05, 1993
M.HILL13 [Mike]              at 00:12 EDT

John,

Eccckkk.  400 disks.  That must have been fun!  You probably wrote CodeCopy
quicker than it took to copy the four hundred disks.

Well Im happy with CodeCopy as is!  Just got my CodeKeys prize in the mail!
Thanks.  Haven't done much with it yet (except the below part!).

Ron,

I agree with all, many people run with write verify off.  Floppies are not
that prone to failure as you suggest.  But when you a hardware hack like the
Blitz or Syncrhomesh (on the systems we have tried it on) that can copy a
double sided disk in 15-20 seconds you sure wish you had a verify.

 From Mike Hill at 11:50:30 pm Wednesday, August 4, 1993

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 149       Thu Aug 05, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 12:51 EDT

Roy,

Our bulk mailing went out in early June.  It was sent to everyone from whom
we'd received a registration card (any product) before that date.

To be fair to everyone on GEnie, we uploaded an electronic version of the
mailing to the library here in early July.  Today will be the last of five
drawings.  I'm sorry that you weren't able to get in on it.  Apparently, some
people still haven't received the mailing 8 weeks after it was sent, even
though the Postal Service claims delivery of bulk mail within 7 weeks at most.

The buttons are free.  If you'd like one, just mention it in your next upgrade
or product purchase, or just call our office to request one.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 150       Fri Aug 06, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 05:41 EDT

Here are the results of our fifth and final drawing.  Congratulations to our
winners and thank you all for your support.

 5th Drawing - August 5th
 ------------------------

 1st Prize - Calligrapher Gold:

   Michael Nilsen

 2nd Prize - Choice of CodeKeys or LookIt & PopIt:

   Russell F. Moon, Jr.
   Peter W. Francis
   Ken Van Dellen
   David C. Mason
   Richard J. Sherman, Jr.
   Robert Focht
   Ray Reiter
   Gil Diaz
   Gary A. Thurston
   Geoffrey J. Stanton
   Robert R. Bromwell, Jr.
   Bob Morrow
   Stanley S. Page
   Gordon Farrell
   Glen Grantham
   Phil Thornton
   Shimmy Plener
   Ione G. Rasmussen
   Geoff Wakefield
   David S. Smith
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 152       Sat Aug 07, 1993
STEVE-J [Steve @ NLS]        at 06:50 EDT

What the heck are these drawings anyway?
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 153       Sun Aug 08, 1993
G.FUHRMAN [gnox]             at 05:41 EDT

Steve,

The drawings were explained in the Codehead bulk mailing which many of us
never received.  Too late now anyway.  (There was a text file uploaded to the
library which contains the info in the mailing.)

  gnox


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 154       Sun Aug 08, 1993
STEVE-J [Steve @ NLS]        at 07:35 EDT

G.FUHRMAN - Well, I'VE never received anything from Codehead -- well, except
for a replacement Warp 9 manual since my original was misprinted.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 155       Sun Aug 08, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 14:34 EDT

Steve,

CodeHead has only done two bulk mailings.  The first was in December of '89
(before we released the product you've registered).  We sent the second
mailing in the beginning of June.  Your copy went to your Roswell, GA address.
If you sent us a change of address, I'm sorry but we missed it.

In the beginning of July, I uploaded a copy of the bulk mailing to the library
and announced it here so that all of our GEnie customers could take advantage
of it as well.  I'm sorry you missed it.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 156       Mon Aug 09, 1993
G.FUHRMAN [gnox]             at 06:30 EDT

Steve,

I never received it either, and several others have said the same. Chalk it up
to the US Mail.  (Or in my case Canada Post).

  gnox

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 157       Mon Aug 09, 1993
STEVE-J [Steve @ NLS]        at 08:03 EDT

J.EIDSVOOG1 - Well, I'm not complaining or anything -- just wondering.  I DID
move at the beginning of June (to Portland, OR), but my parents are forwarding
mail to me and I never received anything from Codehead Technologies.  I'm not
informing anyone of a change of address (not even for my credit cards) yet
until I get a more permanent address.  Thanks for the explanation!
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 158       Mon Aug 09, 1993
L.BUDNICK [Lorne]            at 21:31 EDT

John,

Any idea as to when OR if the CodeHead products will be compatible with
MultiTOS?  If not all products will be compatible, which ones will and when?

Thanks for any info in this regard!

Lorne.... Monday August 09, 1993 07:37:10 p.m.


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 159       Tue Aug 10, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 01:59 EDT

Break out the party hats everybody.  John mentioned in passing today that
Saturday August 8th was the 5th anniversary of the formation of CodeHead
Software.  Where were you on 8/8/88?

Congratulations John and Charles.

 ===Tomas===

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 160       Tue Aug 10, 1993
M.POCHE [Mick]               at 02:35 EDT

Congratulations to the CodeHeads!!!

Here's looking forward to five more years of wonderful new products and the
_best_ support!

- Mick

And to think, it all started with G+Plus.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 161       Tue Aug 10, 1993
K.ESTES [Kenne@SFRT]         at 03:45 EDT

Wasn't there something written for the Altair?
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 162       Tue Aug 10, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 13:11 EDT

Congrats on the 5th anniversary, guys. Let's hope for 5 more!

Al

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 163       Tue Aug 10, 1993
MIKE-ALLEN [NM~SysOp]        at 19:01 EDT

Happy anniversary to the CodeHeads!  Has it only been 5 years?  I thought that
the CodeHeads had been around as long as the ST.

Can there be anyone left in this market who doesn't have at least one piece of
CodeHeadWear?

Keep it up guys, and let's hope the light at the end of the Atari tunnel isn't
a headlight on an engine coming the other way!

        Mike Allen
        Happy OWNER of Warp9, MultiDesk Deluxe, CodeHead Utilities,
                G+PLUS and Calligrapher3 Gold.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 164       Wed Aug 11, 1993
M.RIVMAN1 [MATT]             at 01:32 EDT

Add my (late) congrats to the line up.

Keep up the great works, you guys.  Thanks for sticking with the platform of
choice.  (for some of us, anyway!)

Matt
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 165       Thu Aug 12, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 02:38 EDT

Lorne,

Many CodeHead products work with MultiTOS already -- others are hopelessly
incompatible.  Here is a list:

 Compatible
 ------------------------------------
 MaxiFile               Chagall
 G+Plus                 Calligrapher
 PopIt                  Digitape
 Avant Vector           Genus
 Auto Organizer
 CodeCopy LookIt    (some menu weirdness)
 CodeKeys  (AUTO program works, but ACC can't find it)
 MIDIMAX   (works OK, but is hampered by MultiTOS-imposed delays)

 Incompatible
 ---------------------------------------
 Warp 9                       HotWire
 MultiDesk                    MegaPaint
 Little Green Selector        CodeRam
 TOS Extension Card  <grin>

I have no idea when or if we will be able to achieve compatibility with the
incompatible list.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 166       Thu Aug 12, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 04:43 EDT

I forgot to mention that Imagecopy 2 is also MultiTOS-compatible.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 167       Thu Aug 12, 1993
L.BUDNICK [Lorne]            at 20:26 EDT

John,

Thanks for your response re: MTOS compatibility.  After reading your message
posted in the MTOS category I kind of anticipated the response found here.

I for one certainly hope a solution acceptable to all parties can be found in
this regard.

Thanks,

Lorne

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 168       Thu Aug 12, 1993
S.GARRIGUS [Scotty]          at 23:03 EDT

Congradulations guys!

 Scotty
 CMC & SRG Software

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 169       Fri Aug 13, 1993
MIKE-ALLEN [NM~SysOp]        at 13:24 EDT

John,

I hope that Atari can get together with you folks to find answers.  I suspect
that many folks (like me) if faced with the choice of various CodeHead
products and MTOS will send MTOS to that big bit bucket in the sky.

It is to the advandage of both CodeHead and Atari for the CodeHead stuff to be
compatible, but it seems to me that Atari has more to lose than CodeHead.
This seems to be especially true since Geneva seems much happier with
CodeHeadWare.  (Hmmm - I guess that the CodeHead T-Shirt would be
CodeHeadWear.)

        Mike

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 170       Fri Aug 13, 1993
F.BELL1 [Frank @ Home]       at 16:40 EDT

How in the heck can TOS Extension Card be incompatible with MultiTos? I can
understand the other items listed, and my test comfirm it, but not the
Extension Card.  I use another TOS extension board and have no problems what-
so-ever (just bragging I guess).  By the way, many of the 'incompatible'
programs listed run fine unter MultiGem.

Frank...

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 171       Fri Aug 13, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 22:39 EDT

Frank,

Sorry about that.  The TOS Extension Card is definitely compatible with
MultiTOS.  It's been my little joke that it's not compatible with the Falcon
and I stuck the joke in the wrong place.  <grin>

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 172       Fri Aug 13, 1993
MUSE [Tomas]                 at 23:19 EDT

 Frank,

 >How in the heck can TOS Extension Card be incompatible with MultiTos?

It's a joke, man.  The TEC is not STe, TT or Falcon030 compatible, but that's
by design.  <g>

 ===Tomas===

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 173       Sat Aug 14, 1993
R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson]    at 00:16 EDT

  I like Geneva better than MTOS anyway. The interface looks a lot better and
things seem to be more compatible with it and it is faster than MTOS. Much
faster. You don't have quite as much System SHOCK just having Geneva installed
as you do with MTOS. Also, tear away menus are real nice.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 174       Sat Aug 14, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 11:53 EDT

Wayne,

Right. And the configurable window size is a big plus. I have already
gottenrid of those horsey five-inch-wide <grin> window borders that are
standard in the normal AES.

Al

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 175       Sat Aug 14, 1993
R.KRAUSE6 [Ralph Krause]     at 19:36 EDT

CodeHeads:

from a proud owner of MultiDesk Deluxe, Warp 9, MaxiFile, and Calligrapher
Gold:

 Please keep up the great work!

RJK
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 176       Sun Aug 15, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 17:23 EDT

Thanks, Ralph.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 177       Sat Aug 28, 1993
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 20:58 EDT

John,

Just a vote for getting the incompatible Codehead products working with Multi-
TOS.  Especially LGS, since I use it with MaxiFile III. And I would like to
put Multi-TOS in this TT.

I know neither you nor Charles have gotten rich via shareware, but I would
even pay an upgrade shareware fee, as I did with the last ArcShell Charles
did.

Thanks,

Ken S.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 178       Sun Aug 29, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 16:53 EDT

Ken,

You should be aware that all the CodeHead stuff works with Geneva. You won't
have much need to MTOS under Geneva.

Al

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 179       Sun Aug 29, 1993
OUTRIDER [Terry]             at 18:02 EDT

Al,

Oh?  I thought HotWire didn't work with Geneva.  Or is it that it simply won't
allow you to multitask?

     __
     /erry .\\ay
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 180       Sun Aug 29, 1993
K.SPRINGER1 [FROZEN NORTH]   at 21:32 EDT

Al,

Righto!  But I remember reading somewhere in the Geneva topics that there is
something about MultiTos that enhances what Geneva can do, but I don't
remember what.  I just remember that after reading the post, I concluded that
it simply made the Atari more powerful and I, of course, couldn't have
anything less than the best. <BIG GRIN!>

Ken S.
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 181       Sun Aug 29, 1993
R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson]    at 23:56 EDT

You can run MiNT under Geneva to multitask. Not MultiTOS. MTOS is inferior to
Geneva.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 182       Mon Aug 30, 1993
R.WHITTAM [Ron - ABUG]       at 02:21 EDT

 >Righto!  But I remember reading somewhere in the Geneva topics that there is
 >something about MultiTos that enhances what Geneva can do, but I don't
 >remember what.  I just remember that after reading the post, I concluded
that
 >it simply made the Atari more powerful and I, of course, couldn't have
 >anything less than the best. <BIG GRIN!>

I think its like this:

     GENEVA is a replacement for the AES and "time-slices" the CPU.

     MTOS is an OS using the existing AES and is "pre-emptive" or
     true multitasking.

     The "slowness" of MTOS is that it is still using an older AES.
     MTOS is based on Erik's original MiNT multitasking kernal.
     Adding MiNT to GENEVA's new AES will give a increased speed of
     the AES time-slicing on top of the pre-emptive multitasking
     capability. . .

     . . .or so I heard.

Ron - ABUG

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 183       Mon Aug 30, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 06:54 EDT

Terry,

HotWire works fine with Geneva. Since HotWire itself doesn't yet support
multitasking, anything run under HotWire won't multitask. But you can switch
back to Geneva and run something else via Geneva's own launcher at any time.

I'm not a HotWire user, but the beta group has wrung this one out pretty well,
and HotWire works fine as a single-tasker under G.


Ken,

Dan Wilga is working on MultiTOS compatibility for Geneva. The only reason to
be interested in running MTOS under G is the use of MTOS's 68030-specific
protected mode, in which apps make use of that chip's more advanced design,
and MTOS's preremptive multitasking. Geneva's mutltasking is cooperative.

I have no idea yet if G will speed up MTOS. If it doesn't ... yech.


Wayne,

But why would you run MiNT udner Geneva? Geneva handles the multitasking
itself.

Al

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 184       Mon Aug 30, 1993
R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson]    at 08:03 EDT

  I was told by Gribnif that in order to multitask TOS programs, you need to
run MiNT under Geneva since it doesn't MT TOS programs. It will however SLOW
down Geneva since MiNT is SLOW at what it does.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 185       Mon Aug 30, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 11:55 EDT

Gee, it looks like we may have to open up a Geneva topic in this category (or
maybe each category).  <grin>

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 186       Mon Aug 30, 1993
OUTRIDER [Terry]             at 21:38 EDT

Thanks for the info, re Hotwire and Geneva, Al...
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 187       Tue Aug 31, 1993
NTACTONE [Ron Hunter]        at 01:32 EDT

 >>  But why would you run MiNT udner Geneva? Geneva handles the      <<
  >>multitasking  itself. Al                                           <<

 Because MiNT is the preemptive multi-tasking part of MultiTOS, and
 would give Geneva preemptive multi-tasking....


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 188       Wed Sep 01, 1993
A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt]       at 01:41 EDT

John,

Sorry for pulling Geneva into your cat, John!

(Sheesh, archaologists who stumple across msgs that that will wonder and
wonder about felines and such, I suppose ...)

Ron,

Yep, I know about the pre-emptive stuff. There are few times when that makes
any difference at all. But it's important in a few cases, no doubt.

Al

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 189       Sat Sep 04, 1993
W.DAVIS20 [Bill]             at 14:35 EDT

Hi Codeheads,

        I just recently tried a little prg that I d/led of Genie called
DATMAN.  Anyway I'm trying to have different pictures from the picture I have
on the desktop in different prgs.  Now I have my Warp9.Dat in the route of C
and for some reason the picture never changes.  I loaded the Warp9.DAT into
WWriter and the pictures are listed in there.  Any Ideas?  Thanks!


                                                Bill D.

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Message 190       Sat Sep 04, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 21:11 EDT

Bill,

If you have a resolution-specific DAT file (e.g. STHIGH.DAT) in your Warp 9
system folder, the W9 CP will load it and it will take precedence over the
WARP9.DAT file in the root of C.

You can test your DAT file by manually loading it (hint: click on "Load
Program DAT File") to verify that it's working.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 191       Sun Sep 05, 1993
CODEHEAD [Charles]           at 01:11 EDT

  You may also need to make sure the picture file is located in the Warp 9
default directory, which you set with the W9 Control Panel.

- Charles @ CodeHead Tech

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 192       Sun Sep 05, 1993
D.D.MARTIN [Swampy]          at 10:43 EDT

CHARLIE BAD DOG!!!

Hiyas, hon.  How ya been?  <------- note: staying on topic and "Asking the
CodeHead"  %^)

Well are you ready to dig in and do some super neat things on that Mac sitting
over there on the desk in the corner?  System 7 is really neat, but many of us
over on page 605-Cat 40-Topic 5 agree that the Mac world _really_ needs a
Maxifile!  Of course a Little Green would be nice too.  %^)

Hugs...Swampy
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Message 193       Sun Sep 05, 1993
AEO.1 [Albert]               at 11:15 EDT

Is the Codehead's 11 commandments of programming in the library  on GEnie?  If
not where can I get a copy?

-- Albert Dayes
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 194       Sun Sep 05, 1993
CODEHEAD [Charles]           at 14:10 EDT

  Hiya, DD.  Being on the road with Jarreau for 2 months kind of threw off my
Macintosh programming schedule, but I'm forging ahead again.  (Actually, I'm
splitting my time between Mac development and the Warp 9 Falcon/SpeedoGDOS
upgrade, which means updating all the existing EOS modules to run on the
Falcon too.)

  A program like MaxiFile doesn't translate directly to the Mac environment;
almost every aspect will have to be totally redesigned, so there's plenty of
work to do.  Gotta say I'm pretty excited about the future of the Apple line,
especially the PowerPC-based Macs that will start appearing next year.  Can't
wait to upgrade this here Centris 650 to a PowerPC machine!  (Not that I'm
waiting much with the Centris as is... <g>)

- Charles @ CodeHead Tech

P.S. Gee, so I come back after two months, and what's happening with the
Falcon?  Where are all those new dealers?  Where are the ad campaigns for the
Falcon?  Where's the _real_ Falcon -- you know, the faster, 040-based two-
piece model?  Where's the SCSI2->DMA converter, so people with Atari laser
printers and Atari hard drives can use them with their new Atari computer?
Where are all those new developers?  I wonder how many Falcons have been sold
in North America this year?

P.P.S.  And what's this I hear about Sam Tramiel saying Atari is devoting
_all_ their energy ... to a new game machine?

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 195       Sun Sep 05, 1993
MIKE-ALLEN [NM~SysOp]        at 15:10 EDT

Charles,

Read the transcript of the latest Dateline: Atati! for some of the answers to
your post script questions.  Not the answers most of us wanted to hear.  Sam
has been quoted as saying that 80% of Atari's business will be game machines.
Seems like the remaining Atari resources are being directed towards the
Jaguar.  The rationale is that it will create positive cash flow, some of
which can be applied to the computer line up.  My thought is that some
positive cash flow could have been generated with proper handling of the
Falcon.  BTW, I have yet to see a Falcon serial number over 1000 (ignoring the
initial digit and all the following zeros) reported in NA.

Getting back on topic (hi, Brian), I still would like to see a language
sensitive editor (like LSE on VAXs under VMS), but suspect that the sales
probably would not justify the development costs. Another thing would be a
general purpose CD-ROM driver.  From what I can tell, the ones that are
available don't handle all the various formats.  I'd just like to see a CD
icon on my desktop that I could double-click on and then open the CD
appropriately.  I think there is a market for such a thing.  I've seen lots of
BB traffic on the subject.  SCSI CD-ROM drives are dropping in price and
increasing in capability.

Who knows, maybe Atari has a PowerPC Falcon (or Eagle?) in the works. Seems
like a neat chip, although I still prefer to work with CISC rather than RISC.
Just as long as it isn't some Intel kludge.

Glad to see you back.  Hope I can get my Speedo compatable Warp9 in person at
Glendale.  See ya there.

        Mike Allen
        ST HelpDesk~SysOp

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 196       Sun Sep 05, 1993
L.TRAPANI [Lou @Machine]     at 22:33 EDT

Charles,

        WELCOME BACK!!!!

        Good to see back online and well. I am sure you had a great time on
the road with Jarreau (wished I had seen it).

        I second all your questions as per the Falcon and the Atari Corp.

                                --Lou T.--
                Written: Sunday, September 05, 1993 08:52 p.m. EDT

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 197       Sun Sep 05, 1993
NTACTONE [Ron Hunter]        at 23:49 EDT

 >>machines.  Seems like the remaining Atari resources are being      <<
  >>directed  towards the Jaguar.  The rationale is that it will       <<
  >>create positive cash flow,  some of which can be applied to the    <<
  >>computer line up.  My thought is that                              <<

   I consider this good business.  Atari can probably sell 1 million
 Jaguars, at $200 each,if it is properly supported, and agressively marketed.
 Selling 1 million $1299 Falcons is quite another matter.  Cash flow
 is cash flow, and a successful Jaguar would greatly help the sales,
 and promotion of the Falcon.  However, if the Jaguar bombs, I expect
 Atari to be in dire straits.  Time will tell.


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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 198       Mon Sep 06, 1993
J.EIDSVOOG1 [CodeHead]       at 00:44 EDT

Albert,

The Eleven Commandments should be in the GEnie library as far as I know. The
filename is probably CMDMENTS.???  (ARC?).  It's also on our "demo" disk,
which comes with CodeHead Utilities, as well as our BBS.

John
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 199       Mon Sep 06, 1993
J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ]     at 08:44 EDT

        Welcome bach Charles,  I hope you had a great time.

 >> Joe M <<

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 200       Mon Sep 06, 1993
AEO.1 [Albert]               at 11:31 EDT

John,

I did find in the library thanks again.

-- Albert Dayes
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 201       Mon Sep 06, 1993
OUTRIDER [Terry]             at 13:48 EDT

Ron,

I can't believe you put "properly supported" and "agressively marketed" in the
same sentence with Atari Corp.!  I thought I had you pegged better than that.

Anyone who thinks the Jaguar (no matter how good a value it is) is going to
take the world by storm is simply naive.  Nintendo and Sega will continue to
dominate the game console and handheld markets, because they have CEOs with
brains.

The Jaguar will be just like the Lynx is now.  A superior product to the
competition, but a minor player.

     __
     /erry .\\ay
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 202       Mon Sep 06, 1993
D.D.MARTIN [Swampy]          at 15:00 EDT

Charles!!!

David Flory and I voted Maxifile as the _most_ missed Atari utility on our
Macs.  %^)  If you manage to get a Mac version up and running and need a beta
tester.... %^)

Good to see ya back online.

Hugs...Swampy
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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 203       Mon Sep 06, 1993
NTACTONE [Ron Hunter]        at 15:20 EDT

Terry,
   Well, I hope, just this once, Atari can do something right.  If the Jaguar
doesn't fly pertty high, Atari will be soaking in red ink like IBM.  Grin.

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Category 32,  Topic 11
Message 204       Mon Sep 06, 1993
J.WISNIEWSK2 [Jeff - ST'er]  at 22:11 EDT

  Everyone remember when they were suppose to do the same thing with the
Falcon!.  It seems that they ALWAYS fumble after they build great pieces of
hardware.

As a friend of mine says, "Stick a fork in them".

                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                ^^^^    JSW    ^^^^
                ^^^^   ST'er   ^^^^
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Monday, September 6, 1993 - 9:58:30 pm
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