Yes, here's some more 3-D type icons for use for monochrome sytems running NeoDesk 3, the replacement desktop program for the Atari ST/STe/Mega STe/ and TT! As last time, these have been designed to look like 3-dimensional buttons that "push in" when you click on them with your cursor - an effect similar to that found on the NeXT and Windows 3 enviroments. Also as last time, I've mostly done some re-editing of some existing icons (some that "Uncle Carl" has done), as well as some of my own designs - you'll find some for Superboot, Knife ST, Undel.TTP, Valgus, a better one for Multi Viewer Graphica than the one on the first file, etc. I'd like to take time out and thank those of you who took the time to download and look at the first 3-D Icon file I put onto GEnie last year - I was flattered to see the number of downloads that were done for it! - and hope that you enjoy these as much as I did doing them. I didn't hear much from very many people, though, as I had requested regarding tips on using GFA Basic - in fact, "Uncle Carl" was the only one who responded to me via E-Mail! (BTW, thanks for the tips, Carl, as well as your praise for the first batch - it was flattering to hear from one of the bastions of the ST community giving an amateur like me such encouragement). So this time, like last time, this file is FREEWARE - which means that it is to be distributed freely to bulletin boards, users groups, friends, etc. All I'm going to ask in return this time is that you drop me a line via E-mail on GEnie (D.DREIBELBIS) or on the Atari Explorer NorthAmerinet BB which is available all across North America. You can also write me at: Dan Dreibelbis 72 Glendonwynne Rd. Toronto, Ontario, Canada M6P 3E4 I would like to know how you liked them; also if there is any room for improvement that you can see, or if there are any programs that you would like to see icons for. Hopefully I want to try to come up with some icons for colour systems running NeoDesk soon - as soon as I can get a switchbox for switching from my mono monitor to my TV! :) PS - I am also writing to say that I still believe in the viability of the Atari ST line of computers - so much that I decided to "trench in" and improve my system to the best system I can afford - I am now using an STe stuffed with 4 megs of SIMMs, an SM125 monitor, and an SH204 hard drive (the latter will be upgraded soon). I know that there is a lot of uncertainity going around regarding the future of Atari as of late - but remember, these are tough times for any business. And hopefully, with the Falcon coming soon, the computer side of Atari will once again be a part of the limelight of attention as they did back in '85 with the original STs. Hopefully, Atari will do their best to avoid the mistakes of the past and to do a proper promotion and marketing of the new machines, especially in North America. This is a world-class product. I'd also like to add that one of the best things to do in these times is to join, or start, an Atari users group. Believe me, I needed all the help I could get when I bought my first Atari system back in '88, but I wasn't getting anywhere until I joined a users group (the Toronto Atari Federation) a year later -it opened up a whole world of applications and understanding of how I could best use my system, whether for work, keeping track of my finances, composing, or for my own amusement. We as users of the ST system can help each other out a lot in this way, whether by demonstrating or recommending software or hardware, troubleshooting when the system goes down, or trading tips on how to squeeze that little bit more of performance out of our computers. Enough of the soapboxing - enjoy! Jan 10, 1993. NeoDesk is a trademark of Gribnif Software. KnifeST and UNdel.TTP are programs produced by HiSoft Software. Multi Viewer Graphica (MVG) is a trademark of Wizworks! Software.