Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 05:12:57 From: Space Digest maintainer Reply-To: Space-request@isu.isunet.edu Subject: Space Digest V16 #464 To: Space Digest Readers Precedence: bulk Space Digest Fri, 16 Apr 93 Volume 16 : Issue 464 Today's Topics: A WRENCH in the works? DC-X update??? How many read sci.space? (2 msgs) NASP Shuttle Launch Question Solar Sail Data Space Event in Los Angeles, CA Welcome to the Space Digest!! Please send your messages to "space@isu.isunet.edu", and (un)subscription requests of the form "Subscribe Space " to one of these addresses: listserv@uga (BITNET), rice::boyle (SPAN/NSInet), utadnx::utspan::rice::boyle (THENET), or space-REQUEST@isu.isunet.edu (Internet). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 02:56:56 GMT From: bioccnt@otago.ac.nz Subject: Newsgroups: sci.space Can someone please remind me who said a well known quotation? He was sitting atop a rocket awaiting liftoff and afterwards, in answer to the question what he had been thinking about, said (approximately) "half a million components, each has to work perfectly, each supplied by the lowest bidder....." Attribution and correction of the quote would be much appreciated. Clive Trotman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 04:08:55 GMT From: Norman Anderson Subject: A WRENCH in the works? Newsgroups: sci.space jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch) writes: >effect that one of the SSRBs that was recovered after the >recent space shuttle launch was found to have a wrench of >some sort rattling around apparently inside the case. I heard a similar statement in our local news (UTAH) tonight. They referred to the tool as "...the PLIERS that took a ride into space...". They also said that a Thiokol (sp?) employee had reported missing a tool of some kind during assembly of one SRB. No more info as to the location in the SRB. I agree, pretty weird. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 23:41:54 GMT From: "Allen W. Sherzer" Subject: DC-X update??? Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1993Apr14.231654.14060@stsci.edu> rdouglas@stsci.edu (Rob Douglas) writes: >This question is probably mostly for Allen Sherzer, but anyone who KNOWS >would be welcome to answer. I was just wondering if we could have some kind >of update on DC-X. Well it rolled out two weeks ago. As we speak it is at White Sands getting ready. I would have called my sources for the latest but they are all out of town (in NM). As for the future, there is at least $5M in next years budget for work on SSRT. They (SDIO) have been looking for more funds and do seem to have some. However, SDIO is not (I repeat, is not) going to fund an orbital prototype. The best we can hope from them is to 1) keep it alive for another year, and 2) fund a suborbital vehicle which MIGHT (with major modifications) just make orbit. There is also some money for a set of prototype tanks and projects to answer a few more open questions. Better news comes from the new Spacelifter effort. The USAF managers of this program are very open to SSTO and will have about $50M next year for studies. This would be enough to bring DC-Y to PDR. Now not all of this money will go to DC but a good case could be made for spending half on DC. Public support is STILL critical. Meet with your Congressperson (I'll help you do it) and get his/her support. Also call your local media ans get them to cover the flight tests. Allen -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lady Astor: "Sir, if you were my husband I would poison your coffee!" | | W. Churchill: "Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it." | +----------------------62 DAYS TO FIRST FLIGHT OF DCX-----------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 01:45:06 GMT From: Ross Borden Subject: How many read sci.space? Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1qjs1j$306@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes: > > >In the old days, their used to be Arbitron stats' that analyzed >the readership and posting volumes by group and user. > >They were available from UUNET. That's how you check the >readership of Sci.space, not some stupid unscientific attempt >to flood the newsgroup. > >I have abetter idea. WHy don't we all reply directly to the >origanator of this post, and tell him we read sci.space ;-) > > >pat Sigh. I try to make a little joke, I try to inject some humour here and what happens? In the immortal words of Foghorn Leghorn: "I say, that was a _joke_, son." I thought that the bit about McElwaine, not to mention the two smileys, would indicate to even the most humour impaired that I was JOKING. Sigh. (And will everyone who pat's suggestion (thanks bunches, pat) *please* stop sending me email.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | I shot a man just to watch him die; | Ross Borden | | I'm going to Disneyland! | rborden@ra.uvic.ca | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 04:22:35 GMT From: John McGlaughlin Subject: How many read sci.space? Newsgroups: sci.space rborden@ugly.UVic.CA (Ross Borden) writes: > Quick! Everyone who sees this, post a reply that says: > "Hey, I read sci.space!" >Then we can count them, and find out how many there are! :-) >(This will also help answer that nagging question: "Just what is >the maximum bandwidth of the Internet, anyways?") Don't you think it would be better to E-mail back to you that we read sci.space so that you can count them and every server in the world does not have to get BW'd to death. Or instead you could possible cut and past all the senders into a single post and save on header bandwidth.... Not meaning to be taken as a flame it's late and we have to work toward a demo .... little punchy -- -jftm- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 21:58:25 EDT From: aa429@freenet.carleton.ca (Terry Ford) Subject: NASP Could someone please send me the basics of the NASP project: 1. The proposal/objectives 2. The current status of the project/obstacles encountered 3. Chance that the project shall ever be completed or any other interesting information about this project. Any help will be much appreciated -- Terry Ford [aa429@freenet.carleton.ca] >House, Nepean, Ontario, Canada, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way, Cluster A21< DISCALIMER: Any injuries occuring as a direct result from the reading of this message INCLUDING HEART PALPITATIONS is not my fault in any shape or form. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 01:34:00 GMT From: David Ward Subject: Shuttle Launch Question Newsgroups: sci.space In article , ETRAT@ttacs1.ttu.edu (Pack Rat) writes... >There has been something bothering me while watching >NASA Select for a while. Well, I should'nt say >bothering, maybe wondering would be better. When >they are going to launch they say (sorry but I forget >exactly who is saying what, OTC to PLT I think) >"Clear caution & warning memory. Verify no unexpected >errors. ...". I am wondering what an "expected error" might >be. Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but In pure speculation, I would guess cautions based on hazardous pre-launch ops would qualify. Something like "Caution: SRBs have just been armed." It does raise an interesting question as to how hard it is to pick out an Expected Error from an Unexpected Error in the heat of the moment. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 04:57:01 GMT From: Henry Spencer Subject: Solar Sail Data Newsgroups: sci.space In article <1qk4qf$mf8@male.EBay.Sun.COM> almo@packmind.EBay.Sun.COM writes: >Hey!? What happened to the solar sail race that was supposed to be >for Columbus+500? There was a recession, and none of the potential entrants could raise any money. The race organizers were actually supposed to be handling part of the fundraising, but the less said about that the better. -- All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology - Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry ------------------------------ Date: 15 Apr 93 20:21:00 PST From: "RWTMS2::MUNIZB" Subject: Space Event in Los Angeles, CA FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: OASIS (310) 364-2290 15 April 1993 Los Angeles, CA LOCAL NATIONAL SPACE SOCIETY CHAPTERS SPONSOR TALK BY L.A. ADVOCATE OF LUNAR POWER SYSTEM AS ENERGY SOURCE FOR THE WORLD On April 21, the OASIS and Ventura County chapters of the National Space Society will sponsor a talk by Lunar Power System (LPS) co- inventor and vice-president of the LPS Coalition, Dr. Robert D. Waldron. It will be held at 7:30 p.m. at the Rockwell Science Center in Thousand Oaks, CA. Dr. Waldron is currently a Technical Specialist in Space Materials Processing with the Space Systems Division of Rockwell International in Downey, California. He is a recognized world authority on lunar materials refinement. He has written or coauthored more than 15 articles or reports on nonterrestrial materials processing or utilization. Along with Dr. David Criswell, Waldron invented the lunar/solar power system concept. Momentum is building for a coalition of entrepreneurs, legal experts, and Soviet and U.S. scientists and engineers to build the Lunar Power System, a pollution-free, energy source with a potential to power the globe. For the past three years members of the coalition, nearly half from California, have rejuvenated the commercial and scientific concept of a solar power system based on the Moon. The LPS concept entails collecting solar energy on the lunar surface and beaming the power to Earth as microwaves transmitted through orbiting antennae. A mature LPS offers an enormous source of clean, sustainable power to meet the Earth's ever increasing demand using proven, basic technology. OASIS (Organization for the Advancement of Space Industrialization) is the Greater Los Angeles chapter of the National Space Society, which is an international non-profit organization that promotes development of the space frontier. The Ventura County chapter is based in Oxnard, CA. WHERE: Rockwell Science Center Auditorium, 1049 Camino Dos Rios, Thousand Oaks, CA. DIRECTIONS: Ventura Freeway 101 to Thousand Oaks, exit onto Lynn Road heading North (right turn from 101 North, Left turn from 101 South), after about 1/2 mile turn Left on Camino Dos Rios, after about 1/2 mile make First Right into Rockwell after Camino Colindo, Parking at Top of Hill to the Left ------------------------------ End of Space Digest Volume 16 : Issue 464 ------------------------------