Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from hogtown.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Sat, 6 Jul 91 02:29:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0cRKB6C00WBw0L=E55@andrew.cmu.edu> Precedence: junk Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Sat, 6 Jul 91 02:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SPACE Digest V13 #791 SPACE Digest Volume 13 : Issue 791 Today's Topics: Re: Net Participation by Gov't Employees NASA Headline News for 06/24/91 (Forwarded) Re: Mars Observer Left without me !! Russian Mir space walk underway Re: URGENT: (Not Again!) Traxler Gambit: The Next Generation Soviets successfully repace antenna in Mir space walk Re: Magellan Images Re: Re: Re: Mars "face" data Administrivia: Submissions to the SPACE Digest/sci.space should be mailed to space+@andrew.cmu.edu. Other mail, esp. [un]subscription requests, should be sent to space-request+@andrew.cmu.edu, or, if urgent, to tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 Jun 91 03:43:32 GMT From: ucivax!p4tustin!ofa123!Wales.Larrison@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Wales Larrison) Subject: Re: Net Participation by Gov't Employees To all net readers: I normally refrain from making statements regarding the net conduct of other persons on the net. However, the recent imbroglio from Nick Szabo regarding the postings of Mary Shafer and other government employees has given me cause to comment. 1. Restriction of a person's right to expression in this forum is wrong. Pressure placed upon an individual to not contribute or comment upon current topics of conversation is wrong. Each person provides different perspectives on a topic from which can gather data and learn. Isn't the purpose of this forum to share data, views, and opinions to better understand space activities? 2. The use of perjoratives and other words or phrases to disparage another person's intelligence, motives, and personal character is wrong. At best this is impolite. It can also be insulting and rude. Why is the use of electronic media an excuse for behavior that would not be tolerated in face-to-face public discussions? 3. Threats of actions to be taken against a person in response to a difference of opinion should be stamped out immediately. This response is directly related to: >Nick has informed me that "Public employees slandering [him] on the >net are cruising for a bruising." Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. This is evil of the worst kind - Senator McCarthy would have been proud of this statement. Public employees are citizens too. I vehemently disagree with Nick's expressed attitude and the threat in this comment. C'mon folks. Let's be adults. There will be differences in opinions, and thoughts will be expressed hastily and there will be some misinterpretation of expressions. Let us not commit the blunder of escalating honest differences of opinions into personal vendetta. Respect the rights of others on sci.space - including their right to a personal opinion. And be polite. But most of all, let us encourage people to contribute and support space development in whatever way they can. I don't believe that there is only one way into orbit, and I personally would like to encourage differing opinions on how to do put wide-spread human civilization permanently into space (including humans, machines and commerce) -- to see what new and different ideas we can generate and how to put these into action. I may not agree with all of them, but I will not stop anyone from expressing them. "I may disagree with your opinions, but I will defend to the death your right to say them". - Wales Larrison - -- Wales Larrison Internet: Wales.Larrison@ofa123.fidonet.org Compuserve: >internet:Wales.Larrison@ofa123.fidonet.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 91 22:54:34 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!news.arc.nasa.gov!usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Peter E. Yee) Subject: NASA Headline News for 06/24/91 (Forwarded) Headline News Internal Communications Branch (P-2) NASA Headquarters Monday, June 24, 1991Audio Service: 202 / 755-1788 This is NASA Headline News for Monday, June 24, 1991 . . . NASA Headquarters, Goddard Space Flight Center and TRW officials spent the weekend reviewing data associated with a gimbal- deploy motor on the Tracking and Data Relay Satellite-E, presently located in the Vertical Processing Facility at Kennedy Space Center. Concern was raised late last week that the gimbal motor might not have sufficient torque margin and therefore be unable to deploy the satellite's space-to-ground link antenna. That antenna is the primary link between the TDRS and the White Sands ground station. Following additional analysis of test data and inspections of the satellite, Space Operations and TDRS officials are now convinced that the deploy motor has sufficient torque margins for the task. Pending closeout of paperwork associated with the analysis, the TDRS-E is cleared for flight. Atlantis will be rolled from the vehicle assembly building just after midnight tonight for the three-mile trip to launch pad 39-A. Atlantis' STS-43 TDRS-E deploy mission is presently scheduled for late July. The flight readiness review for Atlantis' STS-43 mission is set to occur at KSC on Thursday and Friday, July 11 and 12. Following the development of a set of criteria which will allow the use of the Kennedy Shuttle Landing Facility as an equivalent end-of-mission landing site to Edwards Air Force Base, STS-43 will be the first mission to use the new criteria for selection of either KSC or Dryden/Edwards as an end-of-mission landing site.. The criteria being developed will include weather forecasting capabilities, mission duration, and orbiter weight. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Johnson Space Center officials recently awarded $75,505 to 41 individuals for Space Act and Suggestion awards. One of the awardees, in particular, is exceptionally noteworthy because of the amount and type of award. Dr. Frederic Dawn, JSC Crew and Thermal Systems Division, was awarded a $25,000 Space Act Award for his development and application of the non-flammable, high-temperature Beta fiber. Originally developed for the Apollo space suits, the fiber is now used in any number of ways including use as the roofing material for the Pontiac, Mich., Silverdome. The only other $25,000 Space Act award ever made was to Richard Whitcomb, the Langley Research Center aeronauticist who designed the super critical wing. The Space Act awards were established by the 1958 Space Act. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NASA Administrator Richard Truly last week announced he has selected Darleen A. Druyun as the Assistant Administrator for Procurement. She will succeed Admiral Stuart Evans, who retired recently after 15 years as NASA's procurement chief. Druyun is currently the Principal Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff for Contracting at the Headquarters Air Force Systems Command, Andrews AFB. She will assume her new NASA duties later this summer. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jet Propulsion Laboratory flight controllers report that Galileo is nearly 82 million miles from Earth, 162 million miles from the Sun and continuing to perform nominally. JPL Galileo flight engineers are presently designing the July 2 course correction maneuver and the subsequent October 29 Gaspra asteroid flyby maneuver. JPL continues its anomaly investigation into the cause and possible fixes for the partial deployment of the spacecraft's high gain antenna. The data from the Gaspra flyby can be recorded onboard the spacecraft, for later playback at the second Earth encounter in December, 1992. Here's the broadcast schedule for Public Affairs events on NASA Select TV. Note that all events and times may change without notice, and that all times listed are Eastern. indicates a program is transmitted live. Tuesday, 6/25/91 8:00 am STS-43 Atlantis roll out to launch pad 39-A. Wednesday, 6/26/91 1:00 pm STS-43 flight crew briefing, from JSC. Thursday, 6/27/91 9:00 am STS-43 flight director mission briefing, from JSC. 10:00 am Tracking and Data Relay Satellite briefing, from JSC. 11:00 am Inertial Upper Stage briefing, from JSC. 11:30 am STS-43 SHARE payload experiment briefing, from JSC. 12:00 pm STS-43 BIMDA payload experiment briefing, from JSC. 12:30 pm STS-43 Protein Crystal Growth experiment briefing, from JSC. 1:00 pm Total Quality Management Colloquium, from NASA HQ. Friday, 6/28/91 2:00 pm STS-40 post mission flight crew briefing, from JSC. This report is filed daily at noon, Monday through Friday. It is a service of NASA's Office of Public Affairs. The contact is Charles Redmond, 202/453-8425 or CREDMOND on NASAmail. NASA Select TV is carried on GE Satcom F2R, transponder 13, C-Band, 72 degrees West Longitude, transponder frequency is 3960 megaHertz, audio is offset 6.8 MHz, polarization is vertical. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 91 22:03:27 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!kksys!wd0gol!newave!john@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (John A. Weeks III) Subject: Re: Mars Observer Left without me !! In article <5662@ztivax.UUCP> sof3@ztivax.UUCP (Walter Meyer) writes: > > > > ...taken by Viking 1 in 1976. Hoagland believes the Mars observer > > > > spacecraft was deployed by the Space Shuttle "Atlantis" on > > > > mission STS-38. > Carlos! Steve! Like dudes, get it together! Don Allen is an obvious > genius who REALLY knows these things. I mean, we must have been out > to lunch regarding Phobos, right!?! Slow down just a bit here...Don Allen did not write the material that you refer to. Don posted the articles to USENET after capturing them from a third party source (Paranet). What Don Allen is doing is a 'service' for those of us who are somewhat interested in Paranet but don't have the time to participate. You can take these postings seriously or you can take them as a joke, but if you don't like them, please send E-Mail to the poster. -john- -- ============================================================================= John A. Weeks III (612) 942-6969 john@newave.mn.org NeWave Communications, Ltd. ...uunet!tcnet!newave!john ------------------------------ From: glennc@cs.sfu.ca Date: 25 Jun 91 0:41 -0700 To: SVAF524%UTXVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu, biro%ecad2.enet.dec@decwrl.dec.com, isg@bfmny0.bfm.com, klaes%advax.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com, lepage%vostok.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com, space-editors-new@andrew.cmu.edu, yaron@astro.as.utexas.edu Subject: Russian Mir space walk underway According to Radio Moscow on board the Soviet's Mir space station cosmonauts Anatoli Artsebarski and Sergei Krikalev, have started their space walk at the current time (June 25th, 12:10 am PST, 11:10 Moscow Time). As noted before the main activity will be the repair of the docking antenna that caused the docking failure during the Progress M-7 docking of Mar 28th. Current reports state this Extra Vehicle Activity has been extended to 5 hrs duration. Such extensions are common in space walks. Artsebarski and Krikalev have been in orbit now for 45 days, and the current plans call for a 4.5 month mission (mid September). Glenn Chapman School Eng. Science Simon Fraser U. Burnaby, B.C., Canada glennc@cs.sfu.ca ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 91 12:32:14 GMT From: mailer.cc.fsu.edu!geomag!cain@gatech.edu (Joe Cain) Subject: Re: URGENT: (Not Again!) Traxler Gambit: The Next Generation In article <33503@rouge.usl.edu> dlbres10@pc.usl.edu (Phil Fraering) writes: >I heard about Sen. John Rockefeller's plan to help families: start >a $1000 per family tax credit (but not stated to be a tax cut; better >to phrase such things as a gift from the government) for certian families >with children. Projected cost: some $ 50 billion a year. Means of payment: >cutting Space Station Freedom. > >The first two times they just talked about it, and didn't talk about how >Fred only has a price tag of about $ 30 billion over the next _ten_ years. The AGU estimated that if you include only the cost of 3 Shuttle flights a year (assuming they cost only about $330 million each) to utilize the Space Station plus the NASA personnel costs at Marshall and Johnston Space Flight Centers (say 2/3 of this years budgets for each or $600 million per year), add maybe 5% on experiments cost, and throw in $20 billion for contingencies over the 30 year life, you get a total of $180 billion. This compares with NASA's congressional briefing which only stated $30 billion cost plus $2 billion per year for operation, a total of $90 billion over 30 years. NASA released a Geographical distribution (5/16/91) of what states would get in FY 1992: $Millions California 740 Texas 404 Alabama 360 Virginia 157 Florida 137 New Jersey 58 Ohio 36 New York 35 Connecticut 30 Arizona 24 Missouri 12 Colorado 12 Other states were under $10M each for a total of $2030 I have heard that those in Florida that would benefit are mainly the Honeywell and Harris companies, I assume doing engineering projects. I have not heard details of Jay Rockefeller's proposal, but would assume that with such strong opposition to SSF from the scientific space community, and only support from the Administration, contractors in the above states that are worried about losing their jobs, and those who mistakenly think that SSF somehow fits into a plan for future expansion in space, alternate and seemingly better uses for the funds would be coming from congress. Joseph Cain cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu cain@fsu.bitnet scri::cain ------------------------------ From: glennc@cs.sfu.ca Date: 25 Jun 91 9:19 -0700 To: SVAF524%UTXVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu, biro%ecad2.enet.dec@decwrl.dec.com, isg@bfmny0.bfm.com, klaes%advax.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com, lepage%vostok.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com, space-editors-new@andrew.cmu.edu, yaron@astro.as.utexas.edu Subject: Soviets successfully repace antenna in Mir space walk USSR cosmonauts Anatoli Artsebarski and Sergei Krikalev, successfully completed their 4 hr. 58 min. space walk on board the Mir space station today (June 25th) according to Radio Moscow. This operation replaced the docking antenna on the Kvant astrophysical module at the station rear. The repair was important for the automatic docking of the Progress cargo craft prefer to connect to that port (due to the plumbing for fuel transfer, and it being a superior place to apply thrust to station which these tankers do just before leaving). In addition the Mir crew erected a struct to hold future experiments. Glenn Chapman School Eng. Science Simon Fraser U. Burnaby, B.C., Canada glennc@cs.sfu.ca ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jun 91 14:05:00 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!yale.edu!ox.com!math.fu-berlin.de!unido!mcshh!abbs.hanse.de!st.korth@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Stefan Korth) Subject: Re: Magellan Images Hello Ron, welcome back again! Have you already looked at sci.astro and the mails concerning your vacation? Stefan Korth abbs.hanse.de!st.korth -- ******************************************* * Stefan Korth Phone: 02173/56924 * * Hindemithstr. 10 (vocal only!) * * W-4019 Monheim (Germany) * * * * uucp: abbs.hanse.de!st.korth * ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jun 91 19:41:23 GMT From: hpl-opus!hpnmdla!gregf@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (Greg Farrell) Subject: Re: Re: Re: Mars "face" data In sci.space, brook@alf.sybase.com (brook mantia) writes: > In article <1528@gtx.com> al@gtx.UUCP (Alan Filipski) writes: > >Instead of a bunch of amateur interpretations of this picture, it would > >be interesting to get a professional's opinion. There are people who > >spend their entire careers interpreting satellite and aerial recon > >photos. Most of them work for the government, but many are retired. > >Have any of these people given an opinion on the photos? > > > Yes, the image data has been revewied by many experts from both the public > and private sector, and after many hours of painstaking analysis they have > come to the same conclusion. However, the results are so startling that > they have tried to keep it quiet lest the populace be seized by panic. Please advise who these experts are and what are your references. We'd like to know. Thank you in advance. Greg Farrell . . . because inquiring minds want to know . . . ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V13 #791 *******************