Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from hogtown.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Tue, 9 Apr 91 01:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0c0JP8600WBwA2MU5s@andrew.cmu.edu> Precedence: junk Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Tue, 9 Apr 91 01:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SPACE Digest V13 #378 SPACE Digest Volume 13 : Issue 378 Today's Topics: Report on proceedings of PARSEC '91 (Introduction) Re: SETI NASA Prediction Bulletins: Space Shuttle Re: Space Stations, Money, Startrek SETI Re: Japan Moon Probes article Shuttle Mission #39 Re: Underground Nuclear Test in Nevada Re: Genesis Rock? Administrivia: Submissions to the SPACE Digest/sci.space should be mailed to space+@andrew.cmu.edu. Other mail, esp. [un]subscription requests, should be sent to space-request+@andrew.cmu.edu, or, if urgent, to tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 7 Apr 91 20:36:08 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!edcastle!hwcs!sfleming@uunet.uu.net (Stewart T. Fleming) Subject: Report on proceedings of PARSEC '91 (Introduction) The first one-day Pro-Amateur Rocketry & SpacEflight Conference took place recently at Queen Margaret College, Edinburgh, Scotland. There were a large number of space- and astronomy-related topics presented which I think are relevant (as a matter of interest if nothing else) for the net.at.large. The morning session was devoted to amateur and educational issues and are included in this posting. The afternoon session I have split into three postings. I am not decrying the contribution made by the amateur groups; merely that two of the afternoon topics - solar sailing and waverider craft - have generated previous interest and I present them here for information and potential discussion. Disclaimer : I do not have any connection with PARSEC organizers except as a highly satisfied delegate. A full list of contact addresses can be found at the end of this article. I will be quite happy to field e-mail enquiries and pass them on. Stewart -- sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk ...ukc!cs.hw.ac.uk!sfleming "But February made me shiver/With every paper I delivered" - Don Maclean on the rigours of attending winter seminars. ----------Start of Proceedings. PARSEC : Pro-Amateur Rocketry & Spaceflight Conference Organised jointly by Space School and Space Technology Applications, Astronomy & Rocket (STAAR) Research. Location : Queen Margaret College, Edinburgh, Scotland. Date: April 6th 1991 10am - 9pm. Contributors : John Stewart, Paisley Rocketeering Society, Discovery Space Club, Paisley, Trevor Sprotson, Manchester Colin McInnes, Department of Physics, University of Glasgow. Dr. Rodney Buckland, Space School, John Bonsor, STAAR Research. Morning Session 9am John Stewart, "History and Activities of Paisley Rocketeer's" This was an entertaining talk outlining the history and activities of the Society, from its origins in the mid-1930's, through dissolution in the War years and its subsequent revival and growth. The Society experiments with various forms of model rockets, including chemical and aquajet designs, and holds regular payload and distance launch competitions. The talk was accompanied by various slides detailing the design and performance of these rockets. The Society has carried out many demonstration and charity launches and presented a number of exhibitions. Its focus on different propulsion methods provides for different levels of expertise - for example, aquajets allow younger members to experiment easily and cheaply before proceeding to more complex designs. The Society maintains a healthy membership and a strong interest in all aspects of rocketry. 10am Discovery Space Club, "Amateur Satellites" This was a comprehensive review of contributions made by amateur groups in the design, construction, operation and monitoring of artificial satellites. It outlined the development of amateur satellites, from OSCAR I (US, 1959), through Soviet experimentation, to UOSAT I&II (UK 1980, 1984). The talk described some of the problems faced by satellites, detailing orbital configurations and equipment needed for tracking and satellite reception. Slides were shown, covering the design, construction, testing and launch of UOSAT II - designed and built by Surrey University and still in operation, 7 years on. 11am Robert Law, DSC, "History and Activities of the Discovery Space Club" The speaker outlined the activities of the club, formed in 1987 to provide a forum in the West of Scotland for individuals and groups with an interest in space and amateur astronomy. The club meets weekly at the Coats Observatory, Paisley as well as organising various exhibitions and public demonstrations. The talk was accompanied by slides of previous exhibitions plus pictures taken of various atmospheric phenomena and astronomic observations by the club members. Various methods were described for this type of photography. Also outlined were some of the problems faced by amateur groups in this country, usually working with limited funding, of keeping up to date with space-related news and contacts. Club members obtain information, particularly video film, from a variety of sources and are always on the lookout for good sources of space news. 12pm Trevor Sprotson, "Space Studies in Schools" Trevor Sprotson is a space enthusiast with an interest in the involvement of space studies in education. He outlined some of the problems found in the introduction of such topics into the school curriculum and described some of the contributions they could make, not only in the obvious areas of physical sciences, but across a wide range of subjects. Contact Addresses Paisley Rocketeer's Society Hon. Secretary - John Stewart, 15 Bushes Avenue, PAISLEY, Scotland, PA2 6JR Tel: 44-41-884-2008 Discovery Space Club President - Robert Law, 14 Marmion Court, Foxbar, PAISLEY, Scotland PA2 0LU Solar Sailing Colin McInnes, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, GLASGOW, Scotland G12 8QQ Space School Dr. Rodney Buckland, Director, Space School, Brunel University, UXBRIDGE, Middlesex UB8 3PH, United Kingdom. Tel: 44-895-71490 Fax: 44-895-74608 STAAR Research Secretary - John Bonsor, 65D Lamont Drive, IRVINE, Ayrshire, Scotland KA12 8HD Tel: 44-294-76418 ------------------------------ Date: 8 Apr 91 10:20:11 GMT From: qualcom.qualcomm.com!qualcom.qualcomm.com!antonio@ucsd.edu (Franklin Antonio) Subject: Re: SETI brettb@cruzio.UUCP (Brett Breitwieser) writes: > Columbus Day 1992 begins NASA's 10 year SETI experiment. >(See April issue of DISCOVER magazine, article by Judith Stone >"Won't You Be My Neighbor") Does anyone know have any more on Are you sure it wasn't an April fool's joke? >amateur contributions to the field including what equipment to There's an amateur radio telescope right down the street from me which does regular SETI searches. It's hooked to a BBS. You can dial up & download the "results". The sysop seems knowledgable (and obviously very interested) in this field. The ZEKE bbs can be reached at 619-755-5675. Tell him N6NKF sent you. ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 91 00:00:59 GMT From: udecc.engr.udayton.edu!blackbird.afit.af.mil!tkelso@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (TS Kelso) Subject: NASA Prediction Bulletins: Space Shuttle The most current orbital elements from the NASA Prediction Bulletins are carried on the Celestial BBS, (513) 427-0674, and are updated several times weekly. Documentation and tracking software are also available on this system. As a service to the satellite user community, the most current elements for the current shuttle mission are provided below. The Celestial BBS may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, or 2400 baud using 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity. STS 37 1 21224U 91 27 A 91 98.44077275 .00010011 00000-0 25599-3 0 80 2 21224 28.4708 219.1816 0014663 307.1712 52.7219 15.37498536 446 -- Dr TS Kelso Assistant Professor of Space Operations tkelso@blackbird.afit.af.mil Air Force Institute of Technology ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 91 03:42:16 GMT From: groucho!steve@handies.ucar.edu (Steve Emmerson) Subject: Re: Space Stations, Money, Startrek In <25812@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprmd@prism.gatech.EDU (Matthew DeLuca) writes: >The U.S. and the Soviet Union have been exchanging data on the biological >effects of extended zero-gee for some years now. I believe a new agreement >was recently signed not too long ago, to exchange yet more information. Excellent! >Nobody is 'afraid' to ask for help. But you never learn anything if all >you do is copy from your neighbor. Odd. I've learned a lot using data I never personally collected. Steve Emmerson steve@unidata.ucar.edu ...!ncar!unidata!steve ------------------------------ Date: 7 Apr 91 00:35:26 GMT From: cruzio!brettb@uunet.uu.net (Brett Breitwieser) Subject: SETI Columbus Day 1992 begins NASA's 10 year SETI experiment. (See April issue of DISCOVER magazine, article by Judith Stone "Won't You Be My Neighbor") Does anyone know have any more on this that they could email or post? Or know where I could find archives? Also, it seems to me that Monitoring Times had an article on SETI sometime in the last few years...it mentioned possible amateur contributions to the field including what equipment to use and a few "for further reading" sources. Does anyone remember the article that could e-mail or post a synopsis or know of further source materials? Thanks very much! V V V V V V Brett Breitwieser V V V V VAJRACOM CONSULTANTS *VAJRA*COM* GRIDLOC CM86XX Santa Cruz, CA V V V V ..uunet!cruzio!brettb V V V V V V ------------------------------ Date: 8 Apr 91 05:30:55 GMT From: sun-barr!ccut!wnoc-tyo-news!astemgw!kuis!rins!will@apple.com (will) Subject: Re: Japan Moon Probes article In article <1991Apr3.120101.12230@pbs.org>, pstinson@pbs.org writes: >Some aerospace firms (which shall go unnamed) have been >overcharging the U.S. Army, Navy, Marine Corps and the Air Force, not to >mention NASA and the whole U.S. Government in general, for years. Yet they are >still not satisfied. Profits most be astronomical or heads must roll. This >mentality breeds petty bickering and wastes time in unnecessary legal >proceedings. When we can't pull together and move forward after suffering a >calamity on the scale of CHALLENGER, no wonder we are loosing our leadership >role to the Japanese and just about everyone else. When I was in the Marine Corps, I always caught IBM staff replacing perfectly good boards in our computers. One day, I actually asked one of them why they do this, he said "to meet my quota". I am sure other Corporations operated by the same standards. Also, let us not forget the Billions of Dollars stolen by General Dynamics. Amazing, they contract $5B for one sub, which always ends up to be $50B(each) more than what was promised. Maybe a little exageration on the finance part, but it does symbolize the waste that the U.S. government proliferates and allows. >(May a severe geomagnetic storm fry the circuitry of every Hughes bird now in >orbit. :-) I agree...... William Dee Rieken Researcher, Computer Visualization Faculty of Science and Technology Ryukoku University Seta, Otsu 520-21, Japan Tel: 0775-43-7418(direct) Fax: 0775-43-7749 will@rins.ryukoku.ac.jp ------------------------------ Date: 8 Apr 91 13:20:56 GMT From: rex!samsung!news.cs.indiana.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!edotto@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Ed Otto) Subject: Shuttle Mission #39 It's about time, NASA! The manned space program, long despised by some in congress, yesterday received partial vindication when two astronauts managed to release the latch on the High Gain Antenna boom on the GRO. All telemetry as of this time indicates optimum performance. But did you watch the spacewalk after that? And they get to do it again today! The sight of those two men cavorting brought back memories of the moon walk where it was the "...Merry, merry month of May (December)"... Don't kill the manned program - it SAVED a satellite yesterday! -- ******************************************************************************** * * Netmail addresses: * * Edward C. Otto III * edotto@uipsuxb.ps.uiuc.edu * * University of Illinois * edotto@uiucux1.cso.uiuc.edu * ------------------------------ Date: 8 Apr 91 12:59:02 GMT From: agate!bionet!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!kksys!wd0gol!newave!john@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (John A. Weeks III) Subject: Re: Underground Nuclear Test in Nevada In article <1991Apr5.143519.25044@ecf.utoronto.ca> murty@ecf.toronto.edu (MURTY Hema Sandhyarani) writes: > Yesterday there was another underground nuclear test in > Nevada. Why are we allowing this to continue? I doubt that this has anything to do with sci.space unless the test was more than 8100 miles underground. -john- -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ John A. Weeks III (612) 942-6969 john@newave.mn.org NeWave Communications ...uunet!tcnet!wd0gol!newave!john ------------------------------ Date: 6 Apr 91 03:25:19 GMT From: hpfcso!ddj@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (Doug Josephson) Subject: Re: Genesis Rock? From "To Rule the Night" (Irwin's autobiography with William Emerson): "...the University of New York at Stony Brook has age-dated it at 4.15 billion years, plus or minus 0.25 billion years." It also mentions the oldest object found on Earth is 3.3 billion years old. Doug Josephson ddj@hpfiddj.hp.com Fort Collins, CO ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V13 #378 *******************