Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Fri, 4 Jan 1991 21:43:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8bVHoni00VcJE7aE5z@andrew.cmu.edu> Precedence: junk Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Fri, 4 Jan 1991 21:43:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: SPACE Digest V13 #008 SPACE Digest Volume 13 : Issue  Today's Topics: Re: MIR SWEEPSTAKES REAL!!!!!! Re: Responsible Journalism and You (Again) NASA Prediction Bulletins, Part 1 Administrivia: Submissions to the SPACE Digest/sci.space should be mailed to space+@andrew.cmu.edu. Other mail, esp. [un]subscription requests, should be sent to space-request+@andrew.cmu.edu, or, if urgent, to tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Date: 20 Dec 90 17:55:27 GMT From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!execu!sequoia!jkg@ucsd.edu (John K. Gibbons) Organization: Execucom Systems Corp. Subject: Re: MIR SWEEPSTAKES REAL!!!!!! References: <8043.276ef508@jetson.uh.edu>, <20785@crg5.UUCP> Sender: space-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: space@andrew.cmu.edu It occurs to me that the folks behind the MIR sweepstakes have a great opportunity for some additional PR. Could they obtain a used spacesuit from NASA or (more likely) the Russians? As expensive as suits are, a used suit originally fitted for someone now retired should be a small expenditure compared to buying a ride to MIR and back. Make a great consolation prize. If you don't catch the significance of the suggestion, take a look back at the classic Heinlein juvenile _Have Spacesuit Will Travel_ (surely you read it :-) ). I bet if Heinlein were still alive he'd love this sweepstakes idea, and might even help publicize it. On the other hand, maybe that's where these folks _got_ the idea, and they're just waiting for the initial fuss to die down before announcing the secondary prize space suit, with Virginia Heinlein at a press conference... If any of you have any direct contact with the company, feel free to pass on the thought. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- John K. Gibbons | UUCP: ...!cs.utexas.edu!execu!jkg Execucom Systems Corp, Austin, Tx.| Internet: execu!jkg@cs.utexas.edu #include "std.disclaimer" | jkg%execu.uucp@cs.utexas.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Date: 21 Dec 90 20:06:09 GMT From: usc!isi.edu!cew@ucsd.edu (Craig E. Ward) Organization: Information Sciences Institute, Univ. of So. California Subject: Re: Responsible Journalism and You (Again) References: <1990Dec20.130909.19152@engin.umich.edu>, <1990Dec20.203618.3157@engin.umich.edu> Sender: space-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: space@andrew.cmu.edu In article <1990Dec20.203618.3157@engin.umich.edu> sheppard@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ken Sheppardson) writes: >In article <1990Dec20.130909.19152@engin.umich.edu> I asked... > > Of the mainstream news sources out there ... which one(s) do you > feel provide the most accurate, comprehensive, non-opinionated > coverage of the space program ? > >to which many people responded by listing various publications in the >industry....What I meant to ask was... > > Of the mainstream news sources out there (the stuff the average > american sees from day to day, e.g ABC,CBS,NBC,USA Today, local > news, Time, Newsweek, People) which one(s) do you feel provide > the most accurate, comprehensive, non-opinionated coverage of > the space program ? Almost without question, PBS will provide the most balanced coverage. I can't recommend "The MacNeil/Lehrer Newshour" highly enough. They go beyond the minute and thirty second stories you'll find on the ABC, NBC, or CBS network news. In Los Angeles, the Newshour is broadcast by KCET (28) at 3:30pm and 6:30pm. KOCE (Huntington Beach, 50) broadcasts the show later in the evening, but I don't remember exactly when. In radio, NPR programs such as "Morning Edition" and "All Things Considered" will do good jobs. Most Los Angeles areas can get these programs from KCRW (Santa Monica, 89.9). In print media, I've found "U.S. News & World Report" to have the best balanced coverage. A few years ago, they did a cover story about how the Soviet program was outperforming the US. The "Los Angeles Times" has not, in my view, been balanced at all. Their editors do not seem to grasp the issues well at all. For example, in an opinion piece that argued for more emphasis by NASA on environmental concerns, they called Venus the most earth-like of the other eight planets. (Two things to consider here, (1) it may well be a good thing to have NASA take a more aggressive environmental route, but they messed-up their argument by (2) mistaking the similarity of mass between Earth and Venus as the relevant comparison when, in the context of the "living" environment, Mars would more easily accommodate human life.) It may have been a coincidence, but the LA Times published a negative editorial about SEI the weekend of the NSS conference in Anaheim. (Those unfamiliar with the geography of Southern California, Anaheim is part of the LA Times prime market area.) Caused a bit of a stir at the conference. "Educating" the editors of the LA Times is on my list of things for the local NSS chapter to (after basic chapter survival...). In the magazine field, the NSS magazine "Ad Astra" is one of the best and getting better (hey, they print my stuff -- and I am on the NSS BoD); "Final Frontier" is also excellent; "Scientific American," "Air & Space" are also worth mentioning. -- Craig E. Ward Slogan: "nemo me impune lacessit" USPS: USC/Information Sciences Institute 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 1200 Marina del Rey, CA 90292 ------------------------------ Date: 22 Dec 90 18:44:53 GMT From: ncis.tis.llnl.gov!blackbird!tkelso@lll-winken.llnl.gov (TS Kelso) Subject: NASA Prediction Bulletins, Part 1 The most current orbital elements from the NASA Prediction Bulletins are carried on the Celestial BBS, (513) 427-0674, and are updated several times weekly. Documentation and tracking software are also available on this system. As a service to the satellite user community, the most current of these elements are uploaded weekly to sci.space. This week's elements are provided below. The Celestial BBS may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, or 2400 baud using 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity. - Current NASA Prediction Bulletins #788a - Alouette 1 1 00424U 62B-A 1 90352.80331432 .00000264 00000-0 30536-3 0 3775 2 00424 80.4619 104.0608 0022994 156.1277 204.0945 13.67430378407922 ATS 3 1 03029U 67111 A 90352.10687973 -.00000074 00000-0 99999-4 0 4840 2 03029 13.4163 19.5648 0021501 268.8319 90.9266 1.00272537 84633 Cosmos 398 1 04966U 71 16 A 90355.51066788 .00089167 18809-4 43410-3 0 3050 2 04966 51.5079 118.2277 2147585 148.4718 226.4971 11.33527152612669 Starlette 1 07646U 75010 A 90350.85556824 .00000026 00000-0 68097-4 0 1800 2 07646 49.8187 157.7075 0206179 74.7736 287.5852 13.82148254801041 LAGEOS 1 08820U 76039 A 90346.30956614 .00000005 00000-0 00000 0 0 1759 2 08820 109.8596 56.1451 0044578 200.6667 159.2315 6.38664405 85310 GOES 2 1 10061U 77048 A 90351.09889602 -.00000258 00000-0 99999-4 0 5333 2 10061 8.4948 61.4706 0003644 19.7082 340.1776 1.00262251 50845 IUE 1 10637U 78012 A 90350.23726702 -.00000184 00000-0 99999-4 0 1839 2 10637 32.5925 116.0102 1420818 358.2053 1.1859 1.00250513 8285 GPS-0001 1 10684U 78020 A 90349.43162609 .00000005 00000-0 99999-4 0 5824 2 10684 63.8075 83.9537 0123869 198.1233 161.4348 2.00554936 79480 GPS-0002 1 10893U 78 47 A 90351.41660139 -.00000023 00000-0 00000 0 0 2881 2 10893 64.3049 324.7324 0168491 23.7331 337.0538 2.00538695 92347 GOES 3 1 10953U 78062 A 90351.42284194 .00000114 00000-0 99999-4 0 191 2 10953 7.3479 64.5010 0007705 113.9928 245.7487 1.00282507 6758 SeaSat 1 1 10967U 78064 A 90350.01580360 .00001404 00000-0 52417-3 0 4398 2 10967 108.0205 335.5345 0002705 266.8997 93.1838 14.36080363652559 GPS-0003 1 11054U 78093 A 90350.18223514 -.00000022 00000-0 00000 0 0 3348 2 11054 63.8278 320.9631 0060351 119.7723 240.8197 2.00570328 89337 Nimbus 7 1 11080U 78098 A 90346.22308104 .00000123 00000-0 14122-3 0 7250 2 11080 99.1791 246.9712 0008969 332.1845 27.8873 13.83481953612657 GPS-0004 1 11141U 78112 A 90348.30102877 .00000005 00000-0 00000 0 0 905 2 11141 63.8367 83.8647 0059980 313.1700 46.1798 2.00549254 87994 GPS-0005 1 11690U 80 11 A 90345.44968574 .00000006 00000-0 00000 0 0 801 2 11690 64.2799 86.1534 0120552 202.2812 157.1890 2.00553594 93797 GPS-0006 1 11783U 80 32 A 90349.24303083 -.00000022 00000-0 99999-4 0 3056 2 11783 63.6250 320.5179 0149019 60.4811 300.9719 2.00561628 77952 GOES 5 1 12472U 81049 A 90351.30939582 .00000068 00000-0 99999-4 0 214 2 12472 3.9307 73.4350 0001352 233.8209 125.7972 1.00213780 34068 SME 1 12887U 81100 A 90353.65368636 .00109803 00000-0 76578-3 0 98 2 12887 97.6028 54.6544 0003589 14.2139 345.8870 15.73992987510183 Salyut 7 1 13138U 82 33 A 90354.84629727 .00165397 00000-0 45852-3 0 6870 2 13138 51.5956 64.1476 0002759 343.9839 16.0718 15.92826863494267 Cosmos 1383 1 13301U 82 66 A 90353.97354722 .00000115 00000-0 12442-3 0 6797 2 13301 82.9315 164.6154 0028569 11.5223 348.6581 13.67867005423073 LandSat 4 1 13367U 82 72 A 90354.01385666 .00000868 00000-0 20252-3 0 6134 2 13367 98.1430 52.6535 0002545 285.8629 74.2289 14.57163070448360 IRAS 1 13777U 83 4 A 90354.53724543 .00000111 00000-0 10121-3 0 8826 2 13777 99.0126 188.3736 0012385 229.7150 130.3008 13.98850273 72993 Cosmos 1447 1 13916U 83 21 A 90351.69625389 .00000139 00000-0 13591-3 0 7735 2 13916 82.9445 236.3824 0038864 350.9205 9.1236 13.74085289387876 TDRS 1 1 13969U 83 26 B 90350.41693733 .00000128 00000-0 99999-4 0 2094 2 13969 4.9008 64.3221 0002754 194.8116 164.9084 1.00275751 1176 GOES 6 1 14050U 83 41 A 90353.89999998 .00000120 00000-0 99999-4 0 3408 2 14050 2.7120 75.5070 0001040 337.1900 223.2830 1.00269141 00 OSCAR 10 1 14129U 83 58 B 90350.69129562 -.00000017 00000-0 00000 0 0 6285 2 14129 25.9345 170.0542 5965026 201.0448 117.0955 2.05880593 28499 GPS-0008 1 14189U 83 72 A 90350.67128587 .00000004 00000-0 99999-4 0 8806 2 14189 63.4541 82.1513 0145136 222.5675 136.3128 2.00569341 54426 LandSat 5 1 14780U 84 21 A 90354.25041481 -.00000722 00000-0 -15529-3 0 4646 2 14780 98.2632 51.5021 0000249 257.3420 102.7762 14.57077585361817 UoSat 2 1 14781U 84 21 B 90351.59321560 .00001964 00000-0 36644-3 0 8912 2 14781 97.9277 37.9697 0013407 29.9465 330.2512 14.65985292362834 GPS-0009 1 15039U 84 59 A 90350.34465744 .00000004 00000-0 00000 0 0 1364 2 15039 63.1949 81.2965 0025833 224.1480 135.6585 2.00567005 47699 Cosmos 1574 1 15055U 84 62 A 90352.30799074 .00000149 00000-0 14824-3 0 126 2 15055 82.9560 286.5700 0027140 167.5217 192.6615 13.73397766325348 GPS-0010 1 15271U 84 97 A 90350.78645800 -.00000022 00000-0 00000 0 0 9825 2 15271 63.1228 319.9429 0110796 329.2812 30.0599 2.00561815 44819 Cosmos 1602 1 15331U 84105 A 90353.57444277 .00002902 00000-0 38799-3 0 4437 2 15331 82.5383 188.9833 0024565 84.0128 276.3804 14.79012669335487 NOAA 9 1 15427U 84123 A 90354.25666700 .00000450 00000-0 26360-3 0 6851 2 15427 99.1715 358.4840 0014640 203.8599 156.1892 14.12760160310257 Cosmos 1686 1 16095U 85 86 A 90355.15994800 .00184645 00000-0 50718-3 0 8650 2 16095 51.5899 62.4902 0003576 341.8064 18.0647 15.92948925494311 GPS-0011 1 16129U 85 93 A 90350.50621675 .00000005 00000-0 00000 0 0 6927 2 16129 63.9654 82.4112 0125317 148.2321 212.5498 2.00563866 38011 Mir 1 16609U 86 17 A 90355.37401159 .00027111 00000-0 32112-3 0 1554 2 16609 51.6100 107.7470 0024600 30.8908 329.1368 15.60672807277339 SPOT 1 1 16613U 86 19 A 90351.62331914 .00000642 00000-0 32009-3 0 1988 2 16613 98.7170 63.5257 0001621 52.6675 307.4750 14.20019644 89969 Cosmos 1766 1 16881U 86 55 A 90354.71639607 .00003849 00000-0 52156-3 0 2548 2 16881 82.5197 246.7418 0021688 90.5758 269.7699 14.78569913236708 EGP 1 16908U 86 61 A 90350.39529066 -.00000063 00000-0 -17230-3 0 3285 2 16908 50.0115 55.8411 0011175 299.5346 60.4374 12.44390206197546 NOAA 10 1 16969U 86 73 A 90352.26332426 .00000547 00000-0 25562-3 0 5313 2 16969 98.5835 15.9585 0014428 93.9700 266.3130 14.23831739220805 MOS-1 1 17527U 87 18 A 90345.24446846 .00000103 00000-0 90146-4 0 7272 2 17527 99.0934 55.3746 0000730 66.5388 293.5849 13.94876781193944 GOES 7 1 17561U 87 22 A 90352.05896444 -.00000046 00000-0 99999-4 0 6951 2 17561 0.0221 136.7646 0001866 258.7755 324.5254 1.00273451 7410 Kvant-1 1 17845U 87 30 A 90354.92577994 .00055960 00000-0 65387-3 0 4190 2 17845 51.6112 109.9999 0025191 27.9488 332.0582 15.60650587211993 DMSP B5D2-3 1 18123U 87 53 A 90354.20626543 .00000173 00000-0 99999-4 0 8042 2 18123 98.8112 182.3036 0014424 210.5166 149.5173 14.14256972180690 RS-10/11 1 18129U 87 54 A 90354.91882127 .00000180 00000-0 18611-3 0 4662 2 18129 82.9243 190.5624 0011124 327.3477 32.6984 13.72131538175054 Meteor 2-16 1 18312U 87 68 A 90353.44524949 .00000219 00000-0 18868-3 0 5885 2 18312 82.5551 143.4683 0013684 92.4604 267.8122 13.83708636168603 Meteor 2-17 1 18820U 88 5 A 90346.64529578 .00000180 00000-0 15126-3 0 4372 2 18820 82.5437 208.5845 0015938 179.5016 180.6164 13.84402040144873 DMSP B5D2-4 1 18822U 88 6 A 90354.22963124 .00000197 00000-0 10665-3 0 7483 2 18822 98.6178 229.1574 0007650 92.7955 267.4095 14.21674821149257 Glonass 34 1 19163U 88 43 A 90351.62661883 .00000020 00000-0 99999-4 0 1107 2 19163 64.9161 152.9928 0007257 180.8304 179.1606 2.13102433 20056 Glonass 36 1 19165U 88 43 C 90352.15288354 .00000020 00000-0 00000 0 0 1140 2 19165 64.9008 152.9775 0003530 351.9876 7.9976 2.13102744 20067 AO-13 1 19216U 88 51 B 90350.40377437 -.00000209 00000-0 99999-4 0 2267 2 19216 56.8563 120.5684 7087146 242.6692 30.6150 2.09704934 19221 OKEAN 1 1 19274U 88 56 A 90350.05124154 .00002584 00000-0 35572-3 0 152 2 19274 82.5153 349.7960 0019936 246.5961 113.3982 14.77797002131778 Meteor 3-2 1 19336U 88 64 A 90353.87553819 .00000024 00000-0 47898-4 0 6896 2 19336 82.5405 146.0640 0016120 208.2132 151.8117 13.16907133115394 Glonass 39 1 19503U 88 85 C 90352.64186981 -.00000017 00000-0 99999-4 0 257 2 19503 65.3986 32.3859 0006493 199.9077 160.1416 2.13103565 17565 NOAA 11 1 19531U 88 89 A 90355.27668776 .00000640 00000-0 37094-3 0 4387 2 19531 99.0076 304.0223 0012957 115.5476 244.7046 14.11835366115360 TDRS 2 1 19548U 88 91 B 90349.25208042 .00000114 00000-0 99999-4 0 2247 2 19548 0.5730 82.2116 0002296 184.5850 93.2087 1.00276387 2076 Glonass 40 1 19749U 89 1 A 90352.21360434 .00000020 00000-0 99999-4 0 8114 2 19749 64.8599 152.6452 0004785 271.6414 88.2933 2.13102113 15088 Glonass 41 1 19750U 89 1 B 90352.74107939 .00000020 00000-0 99999-4 0 8663 2 19750 64.8794 152.6462 0004606 242.3982 117.5293 2.13102194 15090 GPS BII-01 1 19802U 89 13 A 90350.38029847 .00000017 00000-0 99999-4 0 2281 2 19802 55.0450 190.2251 0052192 161.1231 199.1398 2.00553388 13407 Akebono 1 19822U 89 16 A 90352.51779980 .00022737 00000-0 16332-2 0 8651 2 19822 75.0751 147.9475 4127758 103.3638 304.8372 7.19324534 13014 Meteor 2-18 1 19851U 89 18 A 90353.74857257 .00000191 00000-0 16196-3 0 3895 2 19851 82.5208 80.6270 0013756 199.3401 160.7250 13.84038205 91233 MOP-1 1 19876U 89 20 B 90342.78692450 .00000020 00000-0 99999-4 0 1723 2 19876 0.1143 342.7313 0003904 227.1900 150.0622 1.00272933 2412 TDRS 3 1 19883U 89 21 B 90347.88420365 -.00000235 00000-0 99999-4 0 2238 2 19883 0.5799 80.7080 0003535 181.4568 97.8074 1.00267910 76692 GPS BII-02 1 20061U 89 44 A 90343.73124429 -.00000034 00000-0 99999-4 0 2311 2 20061 54.8388 8.7128 0089319 181.9510 178.0573 2.00566968 11014 Nadezhda 1 1 20103U 89 50 A 90352.89874863 .00000129 00000-0 12632-3 0 2868 2 20103 82.9618 148.8512 0036273 244.6374 115.1027 13.73632524 73072 GPS BII-03 1 20185U 89 64 A 90350.05472694 .00000016 00000-0 99999-4 0 1726 2 20185 54.9002 191.0630 0021894 161.1624 198.9908 2.00573506 9712 GPS BII-04 1 20302U 90304.15728615 -.00000046 -68427+2 0 1700 2 20302 54.5417 311.5245 0033626 314.8971 44.9144 2.00365710 7590 Meteor 3-3 1 20305U 89 86 A 90353.66936902 .00000289 00000-0 74688-3 0 2899 2 20305 82.5540 87.1994 0015240 223.6433 136.3442 13.15872604 55346 COBE 1 20322U 89 89 A 90354.00327509 .00000332 00000-0 23668-3 0 2359 2 20322 99.0215 2.5171 0008498 209.2957 150.7726 14.02936691 55544 Kvant-2 1 20335U 89 93 A 90354.92575821 .00093120 00000-0 10779-2 0 5191 2 20335 51.6132 109.9945 0025987 29.5619 330.3168 15.60654789 60925 GPS BII-05 1 20361U 89 97 A 90350.59711931 .00000014 00000-0 99999-4 0 1231 2 20361 55.0071 133.1209 0064560 57.5897 302.9975 2.00584011 7387 SPOT 2 1 20436U 90 5 A 90350.95412003 -.00001783 00000-0 -83010-3 0 4407 2 20436 98.7185 62.9394 0001044 122.2631 237.7945 14.20014615 46689 -- Dr TS Kelso Assistant Professor of Space Operations tkelso@blackbird.afit.af.mil Air Force Institute of Technology ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V13 #008 *******************