Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 23:44:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0bCXELC00VcJ81fk53@andrew.cmu.edu> Precedence: junk Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Thu, 8 Nov 1990 23:44:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: SPACE Digest V12 #506 SPACE Digest Volume 12 : Issue 506 Today's Topics: Dr. Robert Zubrin lecture Re: Galileo Update - 11/06/90 Re: LNLL Inflatable Stations Payload Status for 11/07/90 (Forwarded) Re: Galileo Update - 11/02/90 Re: You Can't Expect a Space Station to be Cheap Re: Call for new news group : sci.space.seds Administrivia: Submissions to the SPACE Digest/sci.space should be mailed to space+@andrew.cmu.edu. Other mail, esp. [un]subscription notices, should be sent to space-request+@andrew.cmu.edu, or, if urgent, to tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.sci.space,netnews.nj.events Path: andrew.cmu.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!rutgers!njin!princeton!phoenix!mcconley From: mcconley@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Marc Wayne Mcconley) Newsgroups: sci.space,nj.events Subject: Dr. Robert Zubrin lecture Summary: "Humans to Mars in 1999!" Keywords: Princeton Planetary Society Date: 7 Nov 90 17:46:09 GMT Sender: news@idunno.Princeton.EDU Followup-To: sci.space Distribution: usa Lines: 22 Xref: pt.cs.cmu.edu sci.space:25519 Dr. Robert M. Zubrin, Senior Engineer at Martin Marietta Astronautics, will give a public presentation at Princeton University on Tuesday, November 13, at 7:30 pm. The topic of the presentation will be "Humans to Mars in 1999!" Zubrin will discuss an alternative plan for reaching the goals of the Space Exploration Initiative. Dr. Zubrin recently spoke at the 1990 International Space Development Conference, where his presentation received a standing ovation. Tuesday's lecture is sponsored by the Princeton Planetary Society, Princeton University's space interest organization and a chapter of the National Space Society. The lecture will take place in the auditorium of the McCormick Art and Archaeology Building on the Princeton University campus. Admission is free; parking is available. For more information, contact PPS president Audrey Robinson at (609) 258-7947. -- Marc W. McConley Vice President, Princeton Planetary Society Reply-To: mcconley@phoenix.Princeton.EDU || (609) 258-7674 ------------------------------ X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.sci.space Path: andrew.cmu.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!udel!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!mars!baalke From: baalke@mars.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: Galileo Update - 11/06/90 Keywords: Galileo, JPL Date: 7 Nov 90 17:43:37 GMT Sender: news@jato.jpl.nasa.gov Reply-To: baalke@mars.UUCP (Ron Baalke) Distribution: usa Lines: 17 Nntp-Posting-Host: mars.jpl.nasa.gov In article <29343@boulder.Colorado.EDU> serre@tramp.Colorado.EDU (SERRE GLENN) writes: >In article <1990Nov6.203112.23639@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> baalke@mars.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes: >> A NO-OP command was sent yesterday to the Galileo spacecraft to reset >>the Command Loss Timer to 216 hours. A MAG (Magnetometer) instrument > >I think this was posted before, but I forgot and my coworkers keep asking: >"What is the Command Loss Timer, and why does it need to be reset?" > If the timer countdowns to zero, Galileo will assume it had lost contact with Earth and then automatically go into safemode, where it will then try to restablish communications with Earth. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| | | | | __ \ /| | | | Ron Baalke | baalke@mars.jpl.nasa.gov ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |___ Jet Propulsion Lab | baalke@jems.jpl.nasa.gov /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| M/S 301-355 | |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ Pasadena, CA 91109 | ------------------------------ X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.sci.space Path: andrew.cmu.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!udel!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!ucbvax!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!news.funet.fi!tukki.jyu.fi!jyu.fi!otto From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: LNLL Inflatable Stations Date: 7 Nov 90 16:16:48 GMT Sender: news@tukki.jyu.fi (News articles) Lines: 15 In article <9011041952.AA17871@iti.org> aws@ITI.ORG ("Allen W. Sherzer") writes: [...] After final testing, the entire Earth Station is deflated and packed into a Delta or Titan derived HLV and launched. The crew follows on a Delta, Atlas, or the Shuttle. They inflate the station and dock. Question: what would the crew go up in, if not the Shuttle ? I was under the impression that the Apollo capsules were the last crew transport devices built before the Shuttle became available. Would some be (re)built for this purpose only ? Sounds expensive... -- /* * * Otto J. Makela * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 41 613 847, BBS: +358 41 211 562 (CCITT, Bell 24/12/300) */ /* Mail: Kauppakatu 1 B 18, SF-40100 Jyvaskyla, Finland, EUROPE */ /* * * Computers Rule 01001111 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ------------------------------ X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.sci.space Path: andrew.cmu.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee From: yee@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Payload Status for 11/07/90 (Forwarded) Date: 7 Nov 90 17:19:16 GMT Reply-To: yee@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Lines: 54 Daily Status/KSC Payload Management and Operations 11-07-90 - STS-35 ASTRO-1/BBXRT (at Pad-B) Experiment monitoring continues. - STS-39 AFP-675/IBSS/STP-01 (at CCAFS) CITE preps continue at the VPF along with ground software development. - STS-40 SLS-1 (at O&C) Preps for tomorrows crew equipment interface test will be active today. - STS-37 GRO (at PHSF) Software validation continues. - STS-42 IML-1 (at O&C) Module and experiment staging continue. - STS-45 Atlas-1 (at O&C) Experiment and pallet staging continue. - STS-46 TSS-1 (at O&C) Experiment and pallet staging continue. - STS-47 Spacelab-J (at O&C) Rack staging continues. - STS-67 LITE-1 (at O&C) Pallet staging will be performed today. - HST M&R (at O&C) PR troubleshooting continues. ------------------------------ X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.sci.astro,netnews.sci.space Path: andrew.cmu.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!udel!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!mars!baalke From: baalke@mars.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space Subject: Re: Galileo Update - 11/02/90 Date: 7 Nov 90 16:35:27 GMT Sender: news@jato.jpl.nasa.gov Reply-To: baalke@mars.UUCP (Ron Baalke) Lines: 30 Xref: pt.cs.cmu.edu sci.astro:10553 sci.space:25513 Nntp-Posting-Host: mars.jpl.nasa.gov In article <1990Nov6.162730.6424@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >In article <1990Nov5.184601.9529@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> baalke@mars.UUCP (Ron Baalke) writes: >>>Probably because Ulysses is a European project ... >> >>Ulysses is a joint mission between NASA and the European Space Agency... > >Oh yes, I forgot. When a project is done by NASA with modest ESA involvement, >it's a US project (e.g. HST), but when it's done by ESA with modest NASA >involvement, it's a joint project. :-) :-) > >ISPM would have been a joint project. Ulysses is a European project with >minor NASA participation. >-- Here is NASA's contributions to the Ulysses mission: o Launch vehicle and launch facilities o Power Source (RTG) o Tracking of the spacecraft using the Deep Space Network o 50% of the experiments on board the spacecraft o Use of JPL's Control Center NASA's participation with Ulysses is much more than minor. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| | | | | __ \ /| | | | Ron Baalke | baalke@mars.jpl.nasa.gov ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |___ Jet Propulsion Lab | baalke@jems.jpl.nasa.gov /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| M/S 301-355 | |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ Pasadena, CA 91109 | ------------------------------ X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.sci.space Path: andrew.cmu.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!rutgers!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!utzoo!henry From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: You Can't Expect a Space Station to be Cheap Date: 7 Nov 90 17:48:39 GMT Lines: 14 In article <1990Nov6.234925.26062@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> baalke@mars.UUCP (Ron Baalke) writes: >>??? They've never built a manned spacecraft at all, and as far as I recall >>offhand they have zero experience in "large platform" work. Their normal >>line of work -- unmanned deep-space exploration -- is as far from space >>stations as you can get and still be in space. > >JPL is involved with the Space Station program... Quite true. However, they still have zero experience with flying real manned hardware, which is what this particular branch of the discussion was about. -- "I don't *want* to be normal!" | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology "Not to worry." | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry ------------------------------ X-Andrew-WideReply: netnews.sci.space Path: andrew.cmu.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!udel!wuarchive!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!iago.caltech.edu!irwin From: irwin@iago.caltech.edu (Horowitz, Irwin Kenneth) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: Call for new news group : sci.space.seds Keywords: Space, newsgroup, SEDS Date: 7 Nov 90 17:01:51 GMT Sender: news@nntp-server.caltech.edu Reply-To: irwin@iago.caltech.edu Lines: 62 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4x Nntp-Posting-Host: iago.caltech.edu In article <1990Nov6.193929.6072@cc.ic.ac.uk>, zmapj36@cc.ic.ac.uk (M.S.Bennett Supvs= Prof Pendry) writes... > >SEDS is one of the largest space student organisation in the world- USSEDS was >founded 10 years ago to put pressure on congress to uncancel a number of >probe missions - in this it was successful. > Just want to clear this up for the record...SEDS WAS NOT formed to put pressure on Congress to fund certain space probes (our friends in the UK seem to have this crazy notion, but I know not from where...). SEDS is a non-profit organization, and as such is limited to the rules governing such groups in terms of political lobbying. What SEDS (which by the way stands for Students for the Exploration and Development of Space) does is work to promote our goals through educational activities. While it is true that the members of SEDS can become politically involved (as US citizens we all have that right), we can't really do it as an organization, but simply as individuals. In fact, in the past few months, I have written a letter to several congressmen (concerning the SEI) as well as helped in the reelection campaign of Congressman George Brown (who appears to have won!). However, I did this not as a SEDS member, but rather as a concerned citizen (see the difference, Sean?). > >Now SEDS is growing into a multi-national organisation with branches across the >world (Italy, Tiwan, Canada). We have links with the ISU and Eurasia (the >European Space student group). > >We clearly need some means of giving people an easy mode of access other than >BITNET mail servers - NEWS would be an excelent method. > For anyone who is interested, there are two news groups that are devoted to SEDS information. One, called SEDSNEWS, is basically a rehash of much of the NASA info released on sci.space and sci.space.shuttle (probe and shuttle updates) as well as some other info of interest. The other deals mainly with the internal workings of SEDS as an organization, and has proven extremely helpful in terms of communications between students at widely scattered locations. It is called SEDS-L. If you are interested in receiving either of these, please contact me, and I'll forward the instructions on how to sign up for them. In the meantime, if ANYONE out there is curious about SEDS, and would like more info, I'll be more than happy to provide whatever you may need. We are looking to expand our organization, and would like to get contacts from interested high school and college students from around the world! BTW, I have been a member of SEDS since my freshman year at MIT (1982), and have had many wonderful experiences due to my involvement with SEDS. I really want to make SEDS available to anyone who is interested in humanity's future in space. > >I await your responses, if any - (would that mean you did not object?) > > Yours M.S.Bennett >-- >/------ ------- -----\ /------ | ====================== | >| | | \ | | M. Sean Bennett | >\-----\ |---- | | \-----\ | UKSEDS TECH.OFF. | > | | | / | | Janet:SEDS@CC.IC.AC.UK | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Irwin Horowitz |"Suppose they went nowhere?"-McCoy Astronomy Department |"Then this will be your big chance California Institute of Technology | to get away from it all!"-Kirk irwin@romeo.caltech.edu | from STII:TWOK ih@deimos.caltech.edu | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V12 #506 *******************