Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Sat, 16 Jun 1990 01:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Precedence: junk Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Sat, 16 Jun 1990 01:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SPACE Digest V11 #529 SPACE Digest Volume 11 : Issue 529 Today's Topics: Re: Color fotos/slides of galaxies NGC 4565, NGC 4594, and NGC 5128 Re: Mount Graham Re: NASA 91 Appropriation Funding approved to widen Kennedy Parkway (Forwarded) Re: SPACE Digest V11 #518 Re: Weather Satellite Photos Old SPACE Digest Re: Weather Satellite Photos Re: Making fresh vegetables on long-duration space travel (Forwarded) Re: Public Perception Of Space (was Re: US/Soviet Planetary Activity) Re: NASA Data access on Internet? Color fotos/slides of galaxies NGC 4565, NGC 4594, and NGC 5128 VOYAGER information required Administrivia: Submissions to the SPACE Digest/sci.space should be mailed to space+@andrew.cmu.edu. Other mail, esp. [un]subscription notices, should be sent to space-request+@andrew.cmu.edu, or, if urgent, to tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Jun 90 17:33:38 GMT From: hplabsb!dsmith@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (David Smith) Subject: Re: Color fotos/slides of galaxies NGC 4565, NGC 4594, and NGC 5128 In article <90165.135313CCB104@psuvm.psu.edu> CCB104@psuvm.psu.edu writes: >Where, please, can I acquire or at least just *see* color photos (prints) or >color slides of NGC 4565, NGC 4594 and NGC 5128?? Try the Field Guide to the Stars and Planets, in the Peterson series. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 14:44:48 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali.cs.montana.edu!rpi!uupsi!pbs!pstinson@ucsd.edu Subject: Re: Mount Graham In article <1990Jun12.230717.5066@nmt.edu>, john@nmt.edu (John Shipman) writes: > Why do these observatories have to be built on Mt. Graham? > Is this the only decent telescope site left in North > America? > > I can think of at least two alternatives: the Sacramento > range, near Cloudcroft, NM; and the Magdalena range, near > Socorro, NM. Both sites came off very well in site surveys > (DELETED) Don't forget the host institution for this project is the University of ARIZONA not New Mexico State. I am not sure the Arizona state legislature would fund a telescope observatory elsewhere and do not know that the state of New Mexico is willing to take up the tab. > > I am both an astronomer and a naturalist. The reason I am > on the side of the squirrels in the Mount Graham controversy > is very simple. You can put telescopes in lots of places, > but extinction is forever. > -- Nothing posted so far has proven the telescopes will cause the extinction of those squirrels. In fact, by locking in now low level development for that site (as opposed to a condo project, for example) the telescopes may actually be the squirrels salvation in the long run. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 90 12:05:34 GMT From: linus!mwunix.mitre.org!sokay@think.com (Stephen Okay) Subject: Re: NASA 91 Appropriation aws@vax3.iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes: >I just received a copy of the markup for the NASA 91 appropriation. This >is out of the subcommittee on VA, HUD, and Independent Agencies. In a >nutshell, anything related to Moon Mars is gone. Anything related to >Mission to Planet Earth just got a whole lot bigger. >Overall, the NASA R&D request of 7,074,000,000 was cut by 615,375,000. Truly sad....truly sad....but then again, we have no one to blame but our selves as a nation, giving us one more thing to explain to our children... ----------------------- Stephen Okay Technical Aide, The MITRE Corporation sokay@mitre.org |.sig under construction ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 20:37:03 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Funding approved to widen Kennedy Parkway (Forwarded) [Impressive, isn't it? -PEY] Bruce Buckingham 407/867-2468 June 14, 1990 KSC RELEASE NO. 106 - 90 FUNDING APPROVED TO WIDEN KENNEDY PARKWAY Funding to widen State Road 3, one of Kennedy Space Center's busiest highways, was given final Congressional approval recently, paving the way for long awaited relief of severe traffic congestion during rush hours. Construction to widen from two to four lanes the 2.5 mile extension of State Road 3 (Kennedy Parkway) north of KSC's Gate 2 is scheduled to begin by the end of the current calendar year. Work should be completed by late summer of 1991. The road work will complement Brevard County's plans to double the width of an eight mile, two-lane stretch of Route 3 between the Merritt Island Barge Canal bridge and Gate 2 on the south end of KSC. The county's construction work should be completed by mid-summer next year. An average of 3-4,000 cars leave KSC daily via State Road 3. As commuters travel south, past KSC's 5th street on the south end of the Industrial Area, they merge from four lanes to two. At that location, traffic frequently bottlenecks, creating long delays and slow-moving lines of single file traffic. "Widening this stretch of Route 3 will allow travelers going to and from KSC greater safety and less time spent in long lines of slow moving traffic," said Gary Ray, NASA Project Manager for Institutional Projects. "Eliminating the bottleneck will assist in dispersing congestion and facilitate the orderly movement of commuters," he said. Funding for construction was made available when the U.S. House of Representative Science Committee approved the transfer of $3.2 million from other facility improvements undertaken by NASA. ------------------------------ From: AZM@CU.NIH.GOV Date: Fri, 15 Jun 90 08:44:36 EDT Subject: Re: SPACE Digest V11 #518 > ------------------------------ > > Date: 11 Jun 90 16:55:49 GMT > From: mcgill-vision!quiche!calvin!msdos@BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (Mark SOKOLOWSKI) > Subject: Re: Lichens on Mars? > > In article <4ae22b5c.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> rehrauer@apollo.HP.COM (Steve > Rehrauer) writes: > > > >Ah, no. Lichens would not grow under the conditions that various space > >probes have shown us to (actually) exist on Mars, but that was back before > >Dan Quayle revealed how habitable the planet wishfully is. > > > In fact, some alguaes and some worms can very well live on VEEEENNNUUUSSSS!!! > Venus is certainly not the hostile hell our current mediatic propaganda > and the mars/moon missions lobbyists are portraying! > > Mark S. > ------- > If you really believe your last comment regarding the conditions on the planet Venus, then you are a true follower of the Dan Quayle School of Science (as taught in Latin by the Latin Americans). God help you. D. Valpar AZM@NIHCU ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 90 15:03:22 GMT From: mojo!SYSMGR%KING.ENG.UMD.EDU@mimsy.umd.edu (Doug Mohney) Subject: Re: Weather Satellite Photos In article <51720@ames.arc.nasa.gov>, medin@cincsac.arc.nasa.gov (Milo S. Medin) writes: > >One of the problems is that if we make such information available >as fast as the computers process the image data, that we'll be swamped >with FTP's, and suck up all the bandwidth the net can deliver. So we'll >probably limit this to one image a day or such. Any thoughts on how >to do this properly would be appreciated. Try to get in on the big NSF project for a "data superhighway" and set up satellite sites in different regions of the country. Ship the images via NSF-superNet, and the rest of the low-speed world can pick them off the satellites as they come in. Does NASA have a clearing house for all this information, aside from sci.space? Maybe some of the Space Grant institutes could set up regional FTP sites. I dunno.. shooting from the hip, doug ------------------------------ Date: 15-JUN-90 10:30:00 EDT From: Steven R. Heleski Subject: Old SPACE Digest Is there a FTP site or BITNET Listserve Site that I can get old copies of SPACE Digest? ________________________________________________________________ |Steven Heleski | | | | S P A C E for | |Lawrence Technological University| RENT | |BITNET%"STEVEN@LTUVAX.BITNET" | | ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 90 01:12:26 GMT From: cincsac.arc.nasa.gov!medin@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Milo S. Medin) Subject: Re: Weather Satellite Photos We are in the process of working with NOAA to make available for anonymous FTP regular GOES weather images. We do have connections to the NOAA facilities where such data is available, and have some folks who are willing to volunteer writing conversion software from the NOAA format into X11 bitmaps. We hope to automate this so that as soon as an image is processed, it will be made available for FTP from a well connected NASA facility in a timely way. We'll post more information when this is ready for use. One of the problems is that if we make such information available as fast as the computers process the image data, that we'll be swamped with FTP's, and suck up all the bandwidth the net can deliver. So we'll probably limit this to one image a day or such. Any thoughts on how to do this properly would be appreciated. Thanks, Milo ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 90 07:14:00 GMT From: bfmny0!tneff@uunet.uu.net (Tom Neff) Subject: Re: Making fresh vegetables on long-duration space travel (Forwarded) > Kliss hopes to have the salad machine fully operational by >Space Station Freedom's scheduled completion later this decade. Salad days indeed for NASA! Poor Paula. Next week she'll probably have to issue something called >DRESSING FOR SPACE -- 'We have luck only with women -- not spacecraft!' \\ Tom Neff -- R. Kremnev, builder of failed Soviet FOBOS probes // tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 19:11:15 GMT From: ceshome!csmith@uunet.uu.net (Craig E. Smith) Subject: Re: Public Perception Of Space (was Re: US/Soviet Planetary Activity) In article <4afa2dae.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> rehrauer@apollo.HP.COM (Steve Rehrauer) writes: >I hope I'm slightly more informed than Joe U.S. Average about space issues, >if only because I read this group (half smile). Yet, I can't say I think >"Bush's moon program" is particularly smart, not because I think a place >isn't worth going to unless it has cable TV and an indoor pool, but because >I don't get warm fuzzies that it's anything other than an expensive, >ill(nill?)-planned political stunt. It strikes me as another "Read My Lips", >with everyone waiting for the punchline. I don't know how well planned it may be, but there are very good reasons for going back to the moon, and building a permanent base there. The difference in gravity between the earth and the moon, makes it much cheaper to land and re-launch spacecraft from the moon than from the surface of the earth once a fuel supply is established. Another economic advantage of a moon base is that many necessary raw materials may be found and mined from the moon thus eliminating the expense of launching them from earth, and solar energy can be more effectively collected and used since the energy is not attenuated by a thick atmosphere. A base on the moon would also offer a big advantage for reasearchers as a much better location to directly view the universe as there is very little atmosphere there to distort telescopic images. A space station has some of these advantages, but with only a space station all raw materials will have to be brought up from the earth at great expense as they are needed. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 21:23:21 GMT From: uvaarpa!murdoch!astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU!gsh7w@mcnc.org (Greg S. Hennessy) Subject: Re: NASA Data access on Internet? In article <75494@aerospace.AERO.ORG> smith@aero.UUCP (Thomas F. Smith) writes: #In the article it says "...anyone with access to the Internet, #BITNET, or Telenet computer network can call NSSDC computers #arount the clock. #Anybody willing to provide the info? > ftp nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov Connected to nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov. 220 NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV MultiNet FTP Server Process 2.1(8) at Thu 14-Jun-90 5:17PM-EDT Name (nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov:gsh7w): anonymous 331 anonymous user ok. Send real ident as password. Password:gsh7w 230-Guest User GSH7W logged into DECNET_DIR:[ANONYMOUS] at Thu 14-Jun-90 17:17, job 20c01169. 230 Directory and access restrictions apply ftp> dir 200 Port 19.45 at Host 128.143.20.20 accepted. 150 List started. DECNET_DIR:[ANONYMOUS] ADC.DIR;1 1 13-MAR-1990 18:55 ADC_ANON (RWE,R,R,R) ASTRO-1.DIR;1 1 13-MAR-1990 18:55 ASTRO_ANON (RWE,R,R,R) FORMS.DIR;1 1 16-MAY-1990 09:31 FORMS_ANON (RWE,R,R,R) IUE.DIR;1 3 19-MAR-1990 14:44 IUE_ANON (RWE,R,R,R) PUBLIC.DIR;1 1 30-MAR-1990 10:15 PUBLIC_ANON (RWE,R,R,R) TOOLKIT.BCK;32767 5292 22-DEC-1989 11:32 [SYSTEM] (RWED,RWED,RE,RE) Total of 5299 blocks in 6 files. 226 Transfer completed. 505 bytes received in 1.7 seconds (.3 Kbytes/s) ftp> quit 221 QUIT command received. Goodbye. > exit > Process shell finished -- -Greg Hennessy, University of Virginia USPS Mail: Astronomy Department, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475 USA Internet: gsh7w@virginia.edu UUCP: ...!uunet!virginia!gsh7w ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 17:53:13 GMT From: psuvm!ccb104@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu Subject: Color fotos/slides of galaxies NGC 4565, NGC 4594, and NGC 5128 Where, please, can I acquire or at least just *see* color photos (prints) or color slides of NGC 4565, NGC 4594 and NGC 5128?? Thanks much! Carey ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 90 01:50:37 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!metro!grivel!gara!tfreer@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu ( STUG) Subject: VOYAGER information required I am looking for information aquired during the VOYAGER missions concerning:- 1/ size and distribution of particles within the asteroid belt, 2/ the outer moons of Jupiter (e.g Leda,Himalia etc) 3/ planetary ring structures (particle size, distribution and composition I would be most greatfull t o anyone who can supply me with any information on these themes.Thanks in advance, Tim ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V11 #529 *******************