Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Fri, 15 Jun 1990 01:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Precedence: junk Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Fri, 15 Jun 1990 01:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SPACE Digest V11 #528 SPACE Digest Volume 11 : Issue 528 Today's Topics: Satellite Imagery and the American Dream cosmosphere NASA footage needed Re: Lichens on Mars? Re: Public Perception Of Space (was Re: US/Soviet Planetary Activity) RE: Satillite Pictures Re: Public Perception Of Space (was Re: US/Soviet Planetary Activity) Payload Status for 06/13/90 (Forwarded) NASA Data access on Internet? Administrivia: Submissions to the SPACE Digest/sci.space should be mailed to space+@andrew.cmu.edu. Other mail, esp. [un]subscription notices, should be sent to space-request+@andrew.cmu.edu, or, if urgent, to tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 13 Jun 90 10:09:00 EDT From: "61501::BELFIORE" Subject: Satellite Imagery and the American Dream To: "space+" >> In article <7444@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> jokim@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (John H. >> Kim) writes: >> >> >I'm interested in weekly (or daily) satellite photos of ocean >> >surface temperatures. I recently visited Scripps Institute >> >of Oceanography and they had a small display about it at the >> >aquarium. Something about satellite NOAA 6. >> > >> >Does anyone know if these pictures are free to the public, >> >where/how you can get it, or if you can get it if you have >> >a satellite dish (and enough computer power)? Well, I work at the Air Force Geophysics Laboratory's Satellite Meteorology Division. I can offer several options: 1.) Raw numerical data from all (non-classified) military, and civilian satellites are available from the Air Force's Global Weather Center. I would suggest contacting them if you wanted to take the raw information and construct the images yourself (not the easiest thing, I agree). 2.) If there are folks in the vicinity (Lincoln Labs, etc..) who want to help me take images from GOES-11, OLS, AVHRR, (etc.) and translate them into GIF files, I *might* make a stab at providing imagery to those who request it, but know now that the turnaround will be *very* slow. That anonymous ftp mentioned in a previous letter would certainly be more reliable. Good luck, in any case. ******************************************************************************* * BITNet: Shadow@UMass * "The Journey of 10,000 miles begins * * InterNet: belfiore@afgl-vax.af.mil * with but a single, generous * * SPAN: AFGLSC::BELFIORE * donation" * ******************************************************************************* * Shameless Advertising:| ARISIA - February 1-3, 1991; $25 until 31-Dec-1990 * * ======================| (New England's *best* science fiction convention) * * |---------------------------------------------------- * * Eat at Milliway's!! | FAnimato! - The official Mike Jittlov Fan Club; * * | $5/yr until 15-Jul-1990; 1st mailing * * | 16-Jul-1990; Write for Details! * ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 90 14:31:06 CDT From: "Bill Ball" Subject: cosmosphere In a note of 30 may pstinson@ucsd.edu mentions some museums including "the Cosmosphere near Kansas City". Can anyone provide me with more info on this place? ((( Bill Ball c476721@UMCVMB ) Dept. Pol. Sci. ) U. Mo.-Columbia ) internet: c476721@UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jun 90 16:06:33 GMT From: sparkyfs!ads.com!IDA.ORG!pbs!mkositch@ames.arc.nasa.gov Subject: NASA footage needed Does anyone out there know how or where to get access to NASA-proprietary footage? I'm looking for shots of the space shuttle, satellites, the earth, sun and other planets to include in a special on environmental issues for public television. Any information or advice is much welcome. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jun 90 05:43:57 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lethe!yunexus!shields@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Paul Shields) Subject: Re: Lichens on Mars? davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) writes: > This is not a statement that they could or do live on Mars, but I >would not bet much against survival if we seeded with them. Not that it >helps teraform, or that evolution is likely to have occurred on Mars, >but life forms are amazingly tough if you don';t restrict the meaning of >life to humans wearing clothing designed for style rather than function. Getting back to terraforming: (sorry, I haven't been following every thread in this discussion, so maybe this has been mentioned...) I thought that Mars' gravity is low enough to permit oxygen gas to escape after dissociation in the upper atmosphere. If this is the case, then even if lichen can live and grow on Mars, then I agree with Wm Davidsen, it won't get us anywhere towards terraforming it in the long term. So it becomes pipe dreams unless you want to try ramming a lot of large asteroids into Mars to increase the gravity. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 05:20:44 GMT From: bfmny0!tneff@uunet.uu.net (Tom Neff) Subject: Re: Public Perception Of Space (was Re: US/Soviet Planetary Activity) People who want NASA to make cute TV commercials to "sell" space don't seem to understand that Congress has the purse strings, and they would pitch holy hell if they saw the agency buying advertisements. It would be seen by *all* parties concerned -- including the White House and the Pentagon, who have dozens of things they'd love to be able to "sell" -- as crude politicking. If NASA were supposed to buy ads, the Administration would include a line item for it in its budget and the House would appropriate the money. That's how the Armed Forces recruiting spots work; the Congressional armed services committees consent because it's understood that recruiting is basic to the all-volunteer service. Big aerospace contractors DO sell ads touting space -- watch the Sunday morning political shows, where it's assumed the movers and shakers are watching. As for "Hey Joe! Colonize Mars Now!" and other such Dickian stuff, that will have to wait for the market to open up sufficiently for Joe's wallet to matter. (Hmm, a new Readers' Digest series -- I Am Joe's Wallet...) -- "UNIX should be used :: Tom Neff or as an adjective." -- AT&T :: ...uunet!bfmny0!tneff (UUCP only) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 90 22:49 U From: Gene G Hong <7711046%TWNCTU01.BITNET@vma.cc.cmu.edu> Subject: RE: Satillite Pictures Dear Joe, >There are several NOAA pictures in GIF format which are updated every >week or so and can be obtained using anonymous FTP at VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU >directory: phil.515 I am fond in your picture, but there is only a bitnet between you and me. How can I get them? What way should I take to receive and analize them? Gene Hong +---------------------------------------------------+ |Gene G Hong, Domain:7831035@lena.nctu.edu.tw.bitnic| +---------------------------------------------------+ |18-3, 67 Lane, Tong Long St, Tainan, Taiwan, R.O.C.| +---------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 00:31:25 GMT From: agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!dove@apple.com (Ray Rischpater) Subject: Re: Public Perception Of Space (was Re: US/Soviet Planetary Activity) In article <1990Jun11.183433.2334@cbnewsh.att.com> lmg@cbnewsh.att.com (lawrence.m.geary) writes: >In article <416@newave.UUCP> john@newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III) writes: >> >>One thing that NASA could try is a TV show on network tv. How about >>a 15 minute weekly or hour monthly show to give NASA news, mission updates, >>behind the scenes views, and review past missions. > >NASA has their own cable channel. Who watches? You want a NETWORK show? >You'll have to make it compete with "America's Funniest Home Videos". It's >difficult to convey scientific subtleties when you have to degrade material >to retain the attention of ill educated lamebrains. > When I was younger, I read a book by Arthur Clarke on prototype stories for 2001. What caught me about one of his stories was a thought he followed -- the government (or financing body of the Jupiter trip; I don't remember) was financing a set of short commercial-length TV broadcasts to be placed on TV the way we see ads for Miller Light and such. I really wish someone had the finances and interest to do something like that -- I know I'd contribute; heck, I'd love to help staff an organization like that. Unfortunately, I do have some doubts as to whether or not the public will get any more out of a 30-second short than a PBS special if they don't watch them. -- -- dove@ucscg.ucsc.edu Ray Rischpater -- dove@ucscb.ucsc.edu (408) 426-0716 --As usual, all of the opinions contained herein are my own... ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jun 90 18:00:41 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Payload Status for 06/13/90 (Forwarded) Daily Status/KSC Payload Management and Operations 06-13-90. - STS-35 ASTRO-1/BBXRT (at Pad-A) - Rollback support continues. - STS-40 SLS-1 (at O&C) - Electrical, mechanical and fluid preps for CITE testing continues. - STS-41 Ulysses (at ESA 60) - CITE MUE validation at the VPF and goal software debug at the O&C will be active today. - STS-42 IML-1 (at O&C) - Rack, floor, and module staging is continuing. Rack 8 will be mated to the floor today. - STS-45 Atlas-1 (at O&C) - Pallet cables,coldplates, bond adapters, and plumbing will be installed today. - STS-46 TSS-1 (at O&C) - Removal of avionics components continues. - STS-47 Spacelab-J (at O&C) - Rack 11 staging continues. - STS-LON-3 HST M&R (at O&C) - MLI installation will be active today along with ORUC interface testing. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jun 90 21:26:10 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero!smith@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Thomas F. Smith) Subject: NASA Data access on Internet? The June/July 1990 issue of Air & Space, page 16, in the article "Trickle-Down Technology" has an interview with NASA's National Space Science Data Center (Goddard SFC, MD) director James Green. In the article it says "...anyone with access to the Internet, BITNET, or Telenet computer network can call NSSDC computers arount the clock. Callers can review a menu of services and data or search by keyword to locate information on climatology , astronomy, astrophysics, inner planetary particle and field data, or atmospheric and land science, and then dowload the data to their computers. This helps college students pulling all-night study sessions as well as scientists in Europe, Japan, and Austrailia. Opening up the request lines has proved wildly popular. Last year the center received 8,000 requests via computer and 2,500 letters." Their you have it. The capability exists. Those who know how to do it must be the ones who have a "real" need for the data! So HOW? Anybody willing to provide the info? -- This space reserved. Space Not Reserved. Space Commercialization Office, Space Systems Division, Los Angeles AFB, CA. ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V11 #528 *******************