Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Sat, 3 Mar 90 02:56:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Sat, 3 Mar 90 02:55:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: SPACE Digest V11 #108 SPACE Digest Volume 11 : Issue 108 Today's Topics: Re: Beanpole ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Feb 90 08:04:55 GMT From: unisoft!hoptoad!tim@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Maroney) Subject: Re: Beanpole In article <6356@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0852c@prism.gatech.EDU (Daniel Rothman) writes: >Has anybody out there heard rumors of a beanpole [ie an earthbound structure >extending to low orbits]? A friend of mine in polymers mentioned that new >ceramics could possibly withstand the shearing loads on such a structure. > >Have there been any conferences/papers/references on the topic? Robert Forward's FUTURE MAGIC is a pretty good reference; it is a popularization, but it gives references to the main technical papers involved. It was an Ace paperback in 1988. Forward's attitude is mindlessly technophilic, with not even a single reference (even a dismissive one) to safety issues and environmental issues -- he postulates antimatter cars for routine atmospheric use, for instance -- but it is still an interesting and unique survey of this kind of future technological possibilityi, with a few silly things as well (such as psychic powers based on the Aharanov-Bohm potential-sensing effect). He devotes a chapter to beanpoles and similar concepts such as the Rotovator. His estimate was that materials science would reach that point in perhaps fifteen years, as I recall. My question is, how much material would this thing require, and as a corollary, what would the cost be? Hundreds of billions, possibly trillions, of dollars seems to be in the ballpark -- look at current estimates for "conventional" mega-engineering projects such as a new San Francisco Bay Bridge or a repeat of New York's main tunnel (over a billion dollars in either case). Such an expense is awfully difficult for anyone to justify. -- Tim Maroney, Mac Software Consultant, sun!hoptoad!tim, tim@toad.com FROM THE FOOL FILE: "Yet another piece of evidence that it's a Communist society which is being presented as good, but which we probably would not want to live in." -- Ken Arromdee on rec.arts.startrek, on the Federation's Red Menace ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V11 #108 *******************