Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Thu, 15 Feb 90 01:36:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 01:36:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: SPACE Digest V11 #45 SPACE Digest Volume 11 : Issue 45 Today's Topics: Re: LDEF experiments Home on Lagrange (was: Re: Recreation in Space) Re: Fun Space Fact #1: Launcher Development Costs Re: space news from Jan 8 AW&ST Re: Galileo Update - 02/12/90 Re: Recreation in Space Re: Fun Space Fact #1: Launcher Development Costs Re: What is an aerospike? NASA Headline News for 02/13/90 (Forwarded) Mir and Soyuz Payload Status for 02/13/90 (Forwarded) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Feb 90 19:48:33 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Re: LDEF experiments In article <1990Feb13.212032.2216@ka3ovk.uucp> albers@ka3ovk.uucp (Jon Albers) writes: >With all the talk about LDEF, no that it is back, could someone post a list >of the experiments it carried? I know they are in the process of studying >the LDEF right now, and I would be real interested to find out how all >those '1 year' experiments lasted all this time.. Retrieve file 6.9.5 from the SPACE archive on ames.arc.nasa.gov. This is a fact sheet and experiment list for LDEF. -Peter Yee yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov ames!yee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 90 18:04 CST From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey Subject: Home on Lagrange (was: Re: Recreation in Space) Original_To: SPACE,com%"turner@Soleast.Solbourne.COM" I was interested to see James M Turner (turner@Soleast.Solbourne.COM) quoting the song parody "Home on Lagrange." Nice to know somebody is still singing it. I was saddened to see that he quoted it without attribution. "Home on Lagrange" was written by Dr. Barry Gehm and me in the summer of 1977. The pun was probably as old as O'Neill's space-colony idea, but we were the first to do a whole song. It should be attributed: Home on Lagrange (The L5 Song) by Bill Higgins and Barry Gehm Copyright 1978 by William S. Higgins and Barry D. Gehm (Yes, we actually paid ten bucks to file the copyright.) Full versions of the song were printed in the book *The Endless Frontier, Volume I*, edited by Jerry Pournelle for Ace Books, in the Summer 1978 issue of *CoEvolution Quarterly*, in the *NESFA Hymnal*, and in an issue of *L5 News* whose date I can't now recall. It has been reprinted with permission in a number of less widely-available publications as well. I performed it on a tape collection called *Austin Ditty Limits*, which may or may not still be on sale from Firebird. If anybody knows about other places it's been reprinted, I'd appreciate hearing about it-- just because I like to keep track. Home, home on Lagrange Where we do what we do very well We've achieved, so it seems, One of our greatest dreams We got money from Jerry Pournelle! O~~* /_) ' / / /_/ ' , , ' ,_ _ \|/ - ~ -~~~~~~~~~~~/_) / / / / / / (_) (_) / / / _\~~~~~~~~~~~zap! / \ (_) (_) / | \ | | Bill Higgins \ / Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory - - Bitnet: HIGGINS@FNALB.BITNET ~ Internet: HIGGINS@FNAL.FNAL.GOV SPAN/Hepnet/Physnet: 43011::HIGGINS ------------------------------ Date: 15 Feb 90 00:01:42 GMT From: bfmny0!tneff@uunet.uu.net (Tom Neff) Subject: Re: Fun Space Fact #1: Launcher Development Costs In article <5968@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprmd@prism.gatech.EDU (Matthew DeLuca) writes: >In article <9002132237.AA29978@trout.nosc.mil> jim@pnet01.cts.COM (Jim Bowery) writes: >>I wonder what would happen if you just passed out one thousand >>chunks of money at $30 million a crack to anyone who looked >>vaguely like they had an idea about how to build a better launcher >>(and, of course, kept them away from metropolitan areas :-). >Easy. You would lose about $29.7 billion and end up with a few companies >making small rockets, none of which could do what the shuttle can. The >shuttle may not work as well as designed, and it may be expensive, but it >does things that no $30 million organization could. Including explode with seven astronauts aboard, and exert a paralyzing effect on a decade's worth of space exploration. No $30 million organization could even dream of accomplishing such things! All it could do would be to orbit stuff. Jeez, how boring. :-) -- "How can a man of integrity get along /// Tom Neff in Washington?" -- Richard Feynman /// tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET ------------------------------ Date: 13 Feb 90 18:03:17 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!icdoc!syma!nickw@uunet.uu.net (Nick Watkins) Subject: Re: space news from Jan 8 AW&ST >[Note an interesting side issue here: the crew were supposed to go >up on a *Proton*. I'm not one of the serious Soviet-watchers, but this >is the first time I recall the Soviets hinting at what some Western >observers have been claiming for some time: Soyuz was meant to fly >on Proton, not the slightly modified Vostok booster it now uses. Which Western observers, and do they mean all Soyuz missions or just the Moon related ones? The latter could use the extra lift, the former would seem very wasteful of the Proton (rather like launching a Gemini on a Saturn IB.) >claim which has been heard is that Soyuz 1 went up on a Proton, and >vibration problems during ascent contributed to the landing failure >and Komarov's death, leading to the decision to cut down Soyuz for >the Vostok booster and abandon man-rating of Proton.] Again where was this claimed? I appreciate that the official version may still be incomplete, but wouldn't the launch azimuth tell you which booster was used unambiguously? Nick -- Nick Watkins, Space & Plasma Physics Group, School of Mathematical & Physical Sciences, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton, E.Sussex, BN1 9QH, ENGLAND JANET: nickw@syma.sussex.ac.uk BITNET: nickw%syma.sussex.ac.uk@uk.ac ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 90 09:35:23 GMT From: uokmax!noel@apple.com (Bamf) Subject: Re: Galileo Update - 02/12/90 In art. <2829@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> baalke@mars.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) wrote: > > The spacecraft is currently in excellent health; the latest >imaging session concluded about 6 a.m. (PST) today, and the next >is due about 10 p.m. Maybe I'm a bit early here, but what is the possibility of public access to the images returned by the craft, (at some later date, I figure) Are they generally made available in some format, somewhere? Or do we just have to wait for the newsweek photo's? Noel -- /* "If you were a dragon, I'd give you a straw" ----You want it should sing too?----| lost.in.the.net.of.it.all Dis' claimer, dat claimer, to look | noel@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu [192.35.96.111] at em', you'd never know the diff. | "How many oranges in an orangutan?" */ ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 90 01:13:31 GMT From: plx!evan@sun.com (Evan Bigall) Subject: Re: Recreation in Space In article <1990Feb12.172424.12337@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: >In article <476@sixhub.UUCP> davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (bill davidsen) writes: >> Let me give you a hint... if I were going to be on a multiyear >>mission, I would want female astronauts. > >I dimly recall seeing an account from one of the Skylab astronauts which >commented on this. :-) He said that NASA told them they had a mass >budget of 60-odd kg for recreation, and "after management rejected our >unanimous first suggestion", this was used on games, tapes, etc. Actually I have always sort of wondered about this. We have had women in space for a while now, and you have to wonder weather or not anybody has experimented. There are of course lots of morality issues etc... (not to mention those pesky lifesign indicators) My guess would still have to be no though, despite the novelty attraction. Evan EVan -- Evan Bigall, Plexus Software, Santa Clara CA (408)982-4840 ...!sun!plx!evan "I barely have the authority to speak for myself, certainly not anybody else" ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 90 00:09:50 GMT From: uflorida!mephisto!prism!ccoprmd@g.ms.uky.edu (Matthew DeLuca) Subject: Re: Fun Space Fact #1: Launcher Development Costs In article <9002132237.AA29978@trout.nosc.mil> jim@pnet01.cts.COM (Jim Bowery) writes: > >I wonder what would happen if you just passed out one thousand >chunks of money at $30 million a crack to anyone who looked >vaguely like they had an idea about how to build a better launcher >(and, of course, kept them away from metropolitan areas :-). >--- Easy. You would lose about $29.7 billion and end up with a few companies making small rockets, none of which could do what the shuttle can. The shuttle may not work as well as designed, and it may be expensive, but it does things that no $30 million organization could. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matthew DeLuca : Once is happenstance, Georgia Institute of Technology : Twice is coincidence, ARPA: ccoprmd@hydra.gatech.edu : Three times is enemy action. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 15 Feb 90 02:52:15 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!sandstorm.Berkeley.EDU!gwh@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (George William Herbert) Subject: Re: What is an aerospike? You were fairly close: the actual configuration is more like this, however [from Space Handbook; AU-18, Air University, Maxwell AFB, Alabama, US Govt publication]: 1 __ __ 2 |..| |..| 3 |..\ /...| 4 \...-\ /-.../ 5 .....\ /..... 6 .....\ /..... 7 ......\__/...... 8 ................ 9 ................ The levels 1,2,3 are either a ring of small combustion chambers, or a cingle annular chamber, all the way around the rocket. From 4 down, the actual shape of the inner 'spike' ought to be [cross section as shown] more circular, with center of curvature off at the edge of the gas flow on level 7 roughly. The big advantage of this is that it is not dependent on a fixed expansion altitude...it operates near maximum effeciency at any altitude. ******************************************************************************* George William Herbert JOAT For Hire: Anything, Anywhere: My Price UCB Naval Architecture undergrad: Engineering with a Bouyant Attitude :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gwh@ocf.berkeley.edu ||||||||||| "What do I have to do to convince you?"-Q gwh@soda.berkeley.edu ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| "Die."-Worf maniac@garnet.berkeley.edu||"Very good, Worf. Eaten any good books recently?"-Q ------------------------------ Date: 13 Feb 90 20:46:08 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: NASA Headline News for 02/13/90 (Forwarded) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Tuesday, February 13, 1990 Audio: 202/755-1788 ----------------------------------------------------------------- This is NASA Headline News for Tuesday, February 13.... Vice President Dan Quayle met with senior management at NASA Headquarters in Washington, yesterday. Quayle, who is chairman of the National Space Council, told agency representatives that the White House is "committed to making space a priority" and added that the civil space program is of "critical importance" to the nation. He also discussed the close link between NASA and education saying the space program can inspire students to study science and math. Engineers at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory have determined what caused the unplanned shuttering of the Galileo spacecraft's camera during its close flyby of Venus last Saturday. A minor incompatibility between ground software and the way the camera system works was responsible. It's been determined there were no hardware problems and no damage. Galileo is presently heading back towards Earth after picking up nearly 5000 Miles per hour in velocity from its swing around Venus. The spacecraft remains in excellent health, according to JPL. Voyager 1 will take an unprecedented picture of our solar system today. The spacecraft...now above and beyond the orbits of the planets circling our Sun...will spend almost four hours sweeping the sky with its camera system imaging Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Earth and Venus. Mercury will not be photographed because of its proximity to the sun and Pluto may be too small to discern. The pictures will be stored aboard the spacecraft until March when the data will be downlinked to Earth. The enormous scale of the solar system makes it unlikely the entire set of images could be combined into a single mosaic print. a total of 64 frames will be shot by the camera system. Voyager 1 is 3.7 billion Miles from Earth. Preparations continue to move ahead for the launch of the Space Shuttle orbiter Atlantis on February 22. The classified military flight will be commanded by John Creighton. Also assigned to the flight are Pilot John Casper and Mission Specialists David Hilmers, Richard Mullane and Pierre Thuot. The early morning liftoff will occur sometime between midnight and 4:00 A.M. * * * * ----------------------------------------------------------------- Here's the broadcast schedule for public affairs events on NASA Select TV. All times are Eastern. Thursday, February 15...... 2:30 P.M. NASA Update will be transmitted. (delay is due to engineeering tests). Monday, February 19....... Tbd P.M. Arrival of STS-36 crew at KSC. All events and times are subject to change without notice. ----------------------------------------------------------------- These reports are filed daily, Monday through Friday, at 12 noon, Eastern time. ----------------------------------------------------------------- A service of the Internal Communicatons Branch (LPC), NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Feb 90 12:11:32 GMT From: research!phacb@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (A.C.Beresford) Subject: Mir and Soyuz Tonite again saw Mir at 1022UT Feb 13, with no obvious accompaning objects seen using 7 by 50 binoculars, some 500 Km forward or behind it. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 90 01:25:44 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Payload Status for 02/13/90 (Forwarded) Daily Status/KSC Payload Management and Operations 02-13-90 - STS-31R HST (at VPF) - The CITE confidence test will be worked today. Preps for this test were completed yesterday. - STS-32R SYNCOM/LDEF (at SAEF-2) LDEF deintegration continues. - STS-35 ASTRO-1/BBXRT (at O&C) - Bond jumper repair and P-clamp installation, and CITE decable were performed yesterday. CITE decable will continue today. - STS-40 SLS-1 (at O&C) - Preps for systems test were worked yesterday. This activity included ECS preps, RAU C installation, rack 10 bellows installation, and HDRR EU mods. Today, rack 10 will be mated to the floor, experiments will be installed into the center isle, luminary lights will be connected, and ECS preps will continue. - STS-42 IML (at O&C) - Racks 5 and 7 structural mods were worked yesterday. Racks 5, 7, and 11 structural mods will be performed today. - STS-45 Atlas-1 (at O&C) - No activity. ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V11 #45 *******************