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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 89 01:40:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: SPACE Digest V10 #253

SPACE Digest                                     Volume 10 : Issue 253

Today's Topics:
			     Space Digest
		    Re: Moon Colonies / Ant Tanks
			     SPACE DIGEST
		       RE: Population pressure
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Date: 15 Nov 89 20:18:03 GMT
From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!eyk@purdue.edu  (William A Noe)
Subject: Space Digest

Please put my name on the distribution list for _Space Digest_.  Thanks in
advance.

...Bill Noe 
   wnoe@en.ecn.purdue.edu

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Date: 15 Nov 89 06:24:52 GMT
From: mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!utzoo!henry@purdue.edu  (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Moon Colonies / Ant Tanks

In article <14913@bfmny0.UU.NET> tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) writes:
>... If you tried to force your toddler to
>be a shot put maniac they'd nail you for child abuse...

No no, you don't *force* him to be a shotput maniac, you *encourage* him
to be one.  Firmly and repeatedly.  This does happen, and as far as I know
no child-abuse charges have ever been laid...

>... You cannot expect children
>to share their parents' maladjustments.

Nonsense.  Parents expect this constantly.  Isolated family farms,
Chinese rice paddies, and downtown New York City are all thoroughly
unpleasant environments where children are expected, nay required, to
share their parents' maladjustments.
-- 
A bit of tolerance is worth a  |     Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology
megabyte of flaming.           | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu

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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 89 11:04:08
From: "Deasy, Hugh" <ESC1491@ESOC.PROFS>
Subject: SPACE DIGEST

Could you please put my name on the distribution list of SPACE DIGEST.

Hugh Deasy
EARN: ESC1491 at ESOC

Thanks

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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 89 10:49:02 PST
From: rrk@jupiter.risc.com (Richard Killion)
Subject: RE: Population pressure


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On the subject of Population pressure to move to space
Sang J. Moon writes:

>It occurs to me that if the threat of major war is removed from 
earth via
>peace between USA and USSR, the population explosion resulting 
>from lack of
>massive death will necessitate developing ways to put the surplus 
population
>into space or else we will have to have another war.
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 >   "I have faith in God, but I do not have faith in the Church."

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We've had a LACK of *massive death* since the cold war started and 
peace between the superpowers won't cause a drastic jump in the 
population.

The *threat* of major war between the USA and USSR over the past 
44 years has not caused many direct war deaths (since the two 
powers haven't had a direct war and the threat isn't killing many).  
Someone might counter this  by saying that the rivalry between the 
two superpowers has caused wars between other countries ( and this 
is a debate for another list),  BUT  it has NOT contributed to the 
*massive death*  that the major world wars have caused.  The 
50,000 or so USA deaths in Vietnam is about the same number of 
USA yearly traffic deaths.

Realistically, I think that governments would not solve the 
population problem by going into space as there are other ways of 
population control that are (at this time) cheaper, easier and more 
acceptable by most people.     

Being in the aerospace industry, I have happily seen a change of 
attitude recently.  The managers see (and have felt) the decrease in 
defense funding and are now actively chasing after the NASA bucks.   
There are a lot more engineers in defense compared to  commerce or 
space.  If engineers are losing defense jobs ,  there will  be pressure 
to find and lobby for other engineering jobs (space-related 
hopefully).  So, maybe if peace really breaks out,  then the excess 
engineering resources could be used for space and other earthly 
needs.  

P.S.  I like your "faith in God" quote.  Is it your original quote or is 
there an author?  (I collect e-mail quotes and disclaimers).

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