Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from holmes.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr1/ota/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Sun, 4 Jun 89 03:16:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Sun, 4 Jun 89 03:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SPACE Digest V9 #471 SPACE Digest Volume 9 : Issue 471 Today's Topics: NASA Prediction Bulletins Re: How Hubble will get there Re: nasa bulletin board Space Shuttle Launch Schedule.. Re: Venus & the Greenhouse effect.. Re: Venus & the Greenhouse effect.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Jun 89 00:51:48 GMT From: pasteur!helios.ee.lbl.gov!ncis.tis.llnl.gov!blackbird!tkelso@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (TS Kelso) Subject: NASA Prediction Bulletins The most current orbital elements from the NASA Prediction Bulletins are carried on the Celestial RCP/M, (513) 427-0674, and are updated several times weekly. Documentation and tracking software are also available on this system. As a service to the satellite user community, the most current of these elements are uploaded weekly to sci.space. This week's elements are provided below. The Celestial RCP/M may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, or 2400 baud using 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity. - Current NASA Prediction Bulletins #520 - Alouette 1 1 00424U 89150.84190835 0.00000133 15137-3 0 2080 2 00424 80.4624 302.9507 0023789 175.0514 185.0325 13.67142046330446 ATS 3 1 03029U 67111 A 89149.67299267 -.00000074 00000-0 99999-4 0 2320 2 03029 12.7202 24.3096 0015222 196.7828 163.1216 1.00272718 78954 LAGEOS 1 08820U 89149.92972332 0.00000003 0 7579 2 08820 109.8236 223.8184 0044846 319.9337 39.8050 6.38664073 49469 GOES 2 1 10061U 77048 A 89149.81763132 -.00000010 00000-0 00000 0 0 2686 2 10061 7.1155 68.4603 0004922 171.5435 188.3122 1.00278249 5192 GPS-0001 1 10684U 89149.50819860 0.00000011 10000-3 0 1309 2 10684 63.5371 101.4278 0109314 199.7988 159.8053 2.00561985 68155 GPS-0002 1 10893U 89148.96805067 -.00000028 0 9856 2 10893 64.5117 342.2726 0152776 27.6685 333.1555 2.00557521 80960 GOES 3 1 10953U 78062 A 89146.87615079 .00000085 00000-0 99999-4 0 6687 2 10953 5.9817 71.1531 0008321 259.6318 100.4560 1.00258239 721 SeaSat 1 1 10967U 78064 A 89150.09932679 .00000725 00000-0 29986-3 0 1191 2 10967 108.0040 250.3476 0002124 277.3693 82.7111 14.34597710571498 GPS-0003 1 11054U 89147.78608600 -.00000027 0 152 2 11054 64.0382 338.7433 0055802 118.1535 242.4224 2.00561136 77953 GPS-0004 1 11141U 89149.38491247 0.00000011 0 1584 2 11141 63.5501 101.3235 0058133 321.4205 38.1411 2.00573888 76688 NOAA 6 1 11416U 79 57 A 89150.51193911 -.00000007 00000-0 49834-5 0 8523 2 11416 98.5047 148.0891 0012978 156.7468 203.4177 14.25759857515382 Solar Max 1 11703U 80 14 A 89150.06671688 .00045330 00000-0 75270-3 0 9607 2 11703 28.5021 47.0234 0002833 255.6204 104.4185 15.50697899517029 GPS-0006 1 11783U 80 32 A 89148.84274056 -.00000027 00000-0 00000 0 0 8975 2 11783 63.9196 338.3970 0143594 62.2868 299.2219 2.00568106 66618 GOES 4 1 11964U 89 97.28408596 -.00000249 10000-3 0 569 2 11964 4.7936 76.3436 0158171 23.8450 337.0124 0.99392857 1324 GOES 5 1 12472U 89145.73282747 -.00000239 10000-3 0 7326 2 12472 2.5405 79.3716 0010039 293.7824 66.1826 1.00241061 28380 SME 1 12887U 81100 A 89150.06029053 .00015342 00000-0 55677-3 0 2018 2 12887 97.6857 175.5041 0001046 26.5192 333.5923 15.28418627422380 UOSAT 1 1 12888U 81100 B 89149.59095894 .00062766 00000-0 83880-3 0 5754 2 12888 97.5557 202.0212 0003424 165.6585 194.4770 15.57847254426096 Meteor 2-08 1 13113U 89148.76940066 0.00000345 30017-3 0 6416 2 13113 82.5387 74.1975 0016446 111.9825 248.3052 13.83997751362553 Salyut 7 1 13138U 89151.78758558 -.00000766 -13222-4 0 5948 2 13138 51.6115 37.7712 0001220 77.1308 283.0233 15.41403818405662 LandSat 4 1 13367U 82 72 A 89149.61196256 .00001781 00000-0 40529-3 0 9671 2 13367 98.2121 213.4823 0000999 293.4727 66.5993 14.57112487365360 Meteor 2-09 1 13718U 82116 A 89150.40276132 .00000552 00000-0 28512-3 0 7795 2 13718 81.2429 298.9461 0057048 50.2719 310.3235 14.13198579333043 IRAS 1 13777U 89147.56500528 0.00000601 44302-3 0 6376 2 13777 99.0469 344.9610 0013730 13.8169 346.3345 13.98604536323318 TDRS 1 1 13969U 83 26 B 89149.61374255 -.00000234 00000-0 99999-5 0 7988 2 13969 3.5156 68.2121 0001803 176.7894 182.5131 1.00270049 89218 GOES 6 1 14050U 83 41 A 89146.92310479 .00000122 00000-0 00000 0 0 9577 2 14050 1.2425 83.2905 0000751 95.8917 261.4169 1.00268300 6392 OSCAR 10 1 14129U 89150.14316711 -.00000059 0 4015 2 14129 26.2371 262.7283 6055020 46.2646 350.0682 2.05883470 16846 GPS-0008 1 14189U 89148.43226801 0.00000010 10000-3 0 6305 2 14189 63.1918 99.9671 0135376 215.5812 143.4917 2.00569737 43042 Meteor 2-10 1 14452U 83109 A 89150.45925561 .00000557 00000-0 23519-3 0 7221 2 14452 81.1605 311.3133 0094927 146.9064 213.8010 14.22175474290020 LandSat 5 1 14780U 89149.36809990 -.00000029 -14315-5 0 7736 2 14780 98.1699 211.9668 0002023 330.7719 29.3704 14.57123578278829 UOSAT 2 1 14781U 84 21 B 89150.06350849 .00000628 00000-0 12965-3 0 4531 2 14781 98.0039 209.3864 0013516 23.7706 336.3526 14.63547443279899 LDEF 1 14898U 84 34 B 89148.69417077 .00028815 00000-0 49645-3 0 8578 2 14898 28.5081 313.9573 0003452 39.4458 320.5889 15.49621745288427 GPS-0009 1 15039U 89147.49354114 0.00000010 0 6646 2 15039 62.9208 99.2776 0015115 271.4925 88.3151 2.00564522 36304 Meteor 2-11 1 15099U 89148.56732504 0.00000374 32939-3 0 9415 2 15099 82.5302 21.9813 0012837 298.2321 61.7481 13.83666647247402 GPS-0010 1 15271U 89148.89049507 -.00000028 0 6242 2 33271 63.3657 338.1482 0099257 320.7210 38.5885 2.00565690 33448 Cosmos 1602 1 15331U 89149.03070666 0.00001200 17201-3 0 281 2 15331 82.5358 356.1315 0024931 143.3744 216.9185 14.75563395251395 NOAA 9 1 15427U 89149.07375996 0.00000107 69209-4 0 3841 2 15427 99.1413 135.6418 0015746 11.4412 348.7120 14.12019062229758 Meteor 2-12 1 15516U 89138.96557245 0.00000230 19654-3 0 803 2 15516 82.5355 328.0112 0015387 194.4767 165.5957 13.84103834217011 Cosmos 1686 1 16095U 89151.85241943 -.00002835 -61957-4 0 2670 2 16095 51.6094 37.4483 0001060 67.8925 292.2700 15.41404843405679 GPS-0011 1 16129U 89148.04813433 0.00000011 0 3203 2 16129 63.7117 99.9004 0116162 150.2929 210.3535 2.00564873 26633 Meteor 3-1 1 16191U 89140.70296138 0.00000043 10000-3 0 8300 2 16191 82.5502 255.1708 0019818 10.0172 350.1329 13.16870093171907 Meteor 2-13 1 16408U 89148.23163761 0.00000302 26132-3 0 4927 2 16408 82.5365 235.4887 0016549 1.1904 358.9245 13.84175730172798 Mir 1 16609U 89151.76951609 0.00017435 26647-3 0 8692 2 16609 51.6211 85.6244 0010988 7.8615 352.3235 15.54436576188615 SPOT 1 1 16613U 89149.83662635 0.00000632 31464-3 0 4791 2 16613 98.7375 224.5857 0000936 154.1147 206.0128 14.20010245 9526 Meteor 2-14 1 16735U 89140.82632696 0.00000312 27212-3 0 3004 2 16735 82.5355 268.1911 0015883 87.7838 272.5142 13.83911192150676 Cosmos 1766 1 16881U 89149.74268912 0.00001925 28085-3 0 6184 2 16881 82.5260 55.0350 0023624 155.7536 204.4824 14.75170243152574 EGP 1 16908U 89145.87890812 0.00000055 69099-3 0 1272 2 16908 50.0175 6.6571 0009713 282.0437 77.9550 12.44380593126635 FO-12 1 16909U 89148.83110640 -.00000025 10000-3 0 1463 2 16909 50.0170 357.8212 0010975 296.6076 63.3643 12.44400573126998 NOAA 10 1 16969U 89149.23942626 0.00000021 17945-4 0 2272 2 16969 98.6356 180.0901 0012673 308.6937 51.3113 14.23009753141244 Meteor 2-15 1 17290U 89148.05387406 0.00000371 32655-3 0 2539 2 17290 82.4608 169.9239 0012687 324.8226 35.1925 13.83725857120837 MOS-1 1 17527U 87 18 A 89149.67053630 .00001131 00000-0 86793-3 0 1339 2 17527 99.1492 221.2879 0001937 71.0486 289.0942 13.94854734115790 GOES 7 1 17561U 87 22 A 89149.61583261 -.00000041 00000-0 99999-4 0 2800 2 17561 0.0271 16.8204 0031102 110.6879 233.0812 1.00281019 1576 Kvant 1 17845U 89151.89805994 0.00045646 68238-3 0 7678 2 17845 51.6278 84.9761 0012703 14.0883 345.8877 15.54458320124903 RS-10/11 1 18129U 89149.79868147 -.00000021 -29486-4 0 7717 2 18129 82.9263 251.7260 0013329 102.4408 257.8202 13.71978033 96871 Cosmos 1870 1 18225U 89151.78073733 0.00157230 13198-4 20163-3 0 596 2 18225 71.8645 98.9511 0010194 229.9927 130.1546 16.07038927108663 Meteor 2-16 1 18312U 89146.64305386 0.00000218 18868-3 0 2748 2 18312 82.5604 236.6086 0010778 254.0414 105.9591 13.83473063 89539 Meteor 2-17 1 18820U 89145.40416666 0.00000326 28299-3 0 1141 2 18820 82.5417 298.6621 0017084 336.3845 23.6539 13.84159088 66539 AO-13 1 19216U 89130.85007881 -.00000125 10000-3 0 350 2 19216 57.2293 208.4090 6714358 203.7983 99.4234 2.09702882 6957 OKEAN 1 1 19274U 88 56 A 89149.86475847 .00001430 00000-0 21025-3 0 3872 2 19274 82.5162 153.5530 0021085 293.7271 66.1721 14.74708443 48386 Meteor 3-2 1 19336U 89140.91635919 0.00000390 10000-2 0 1971 2 19336 82.5438 194.9494 0016861 208.3214 151.6986 13.16845822 39329 NOAA 11 1 19531U 89150.33338490 -.00000377 00000-0 -19957-3 0 854 2 19531 98.9366 94.4318 0011450 286.8789 73.1077 14.10999966 34950 TDRS 2 1 19548U 88 91 B 89147.79361965 .00000135 00000-0 99999-4 0 245 2 19548 0.5694 80.5353 0001861 296.7251 343.3510 1.00283528 1587 GPS-0014 1 19802U 89 13 A 89138.08673647 .00000015 00000-0 99999-4 0 368 2 19802 55.1186 213.0064 0068830 155.7676 204.6269 2.00554512 1820 Meteor 2-18 1 19851U 89148.60088249 0.00000117 10000-3 0 400 2 19851 82.5231 174.8320 0014727 12.1296 348.0215 13.83803940 12379 TDRS 3 1 19883U 89 21 B 89146.47632124 -.00000244 00000-0 99999-4 0 166 2 19883 0.3089 66.8689 0007035 40.3705 252.8451 1.00553054 08 Raduga 23 1 19928U 89137.18522349 -.00000154 10000-3 0 446 2 19928 1.3545 277.7136 0002516 53.1772 306.5633 1.00268455 345 1980 030D 1 19931U 89128.45891538 -.00000015 10000-3 0 131 2 19931 1.4156 276.8888 0017886 17.5390 342.5731 0.97924528 252 Cosmos 2018 1 19938U 89138.65810262 0.00948361 40344-4 31726-3 0 701 2 19938 62.7992 325.3796 0098866 65.6693 295.4718 16.13844776 4494 1989 033C 1 19970U 89146.89292825 0.00004135 15448-2 0 187 2 19970 27.9756 326.5141 6561442 22.7737 356.2819 3.21038637 706 1989 036A 1 19986U 89151.73952592 0.00766075 35539-4 27543-3 0 321 2 19986 64.7785 52.8559 0083069 79.8644 281.2547 16.16019940 2299 1989 037A 1 20000U 89151.75589042 0.00192517 55475-5 16446-3 0 188 2 20000 69.9521 60.0750 0049406 13.3631 346.7846 16.10484719 1183 1987 037CZ 1 20003U 89140.52464093 0.00000008 10000-3 0 15 2 20003 72.8290 205.3591 0414065 169.8306 191.1830 12.32588625 7487 1987 020DA 1 20004U 89144.20894406 0.00000016 10000-3 0 19 2 20004 73.6361 174.3386 0118944 257.9904 103.3069 12.82100499 65749 1989 038A 1 20006U 89151.77221102 0.00053516 78866-4 0 195 2 20006 82.2974 34.3097 0012996 267.2968 92.5584 16.04622245 1034 -- Dr TS Kelso Asst Professor of Space Operations tkelso@blackbird.afit.af.mil Air Force Institute of Technology ------------------------------ Date: 31 May 89 17:44:32 GMT From: ncrlnk!ncrcce!johnson@uunet.uu.net (Wayne D. T. Johnson) Subject: Re: How Hubble will get there In article <21276@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> bobmon@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (RAMontante) writes: --by gsh7w@astsun5.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy): --> Actually it will go in a C5A transport plane. It was going to go by --> boar, but recently it was determined that the place could carry the load. -- ^^^^ - -andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews) <1027@syma.sussex.ac.uk> : -- --Hmm, going back to using animal power are they? I know we're getting --more green-conscious, but this is going too far. I've heard about --horse-power, but pig-power takes a bit of thinking about. - -Virginia hams are justly famous. And big, too... If *these* pigs had -wings, they'd be C5A's. Or maybe Boaring 747's. Sounds like a bunch of pork barrel politics to me.... :{)> -- Wayne Johnson (Voice) 612-638-7665 NCR Comten, Inc. (E-MAIL) W.Johnson@StPaul.NCR.COM or Roseville MN 55113 johnson@c10sd1.StPaul.NCR.COM These opinions (or spelling) do not necessarily reflect those of NCR Comten. ------------------------------ Date: 30 May 89 15:26:53 GMT From: killer!mjbtn!raider!crc@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Charles Cain) Subject: Re: nasa bulletin board The only BBS that I am aware of that is run by NASA is the one in Huntsville Alabama by Marshall Space Flight Center. I have called it on a couple of occasions but other than being able to read very current Shuttle Status Reports, I have not been that impressed with it. If anyone would like the telephone number, hereit is. 1-205-895-0028 You will have to register as a user but other than that, there are no hidden charges. It is active 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Hope this helps. Randy -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DOMAIN: crc@raider.mfee.tn.us | From NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE Satellite Engineer, TNN | Home of the Grand Old Opry! PHONE: (615-459-9449) | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: These words do not reflect or express the views of The Nashville Network in any way. The words and the way they are used is solely MY FAULT!!!!!!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Reply-To: dwelliver@pro-hysteria.cts.com Date: Wed, 31 May 89 18:55:28 CST From: dwelliver@pro-hysteria.cts.com (System Administrator) Subject: Space Shuttle Launch Schedule.. Does anyone have a Space Shuttle Launch Schedule that they could post on here? It just needs to be through atleast 1989 or 1990.. Thanks.. _______________________________________________________________________________ ProLine: dwelliver@pro-hysteria UUCP: crash!pnet01!pro-hysteria!dwelliver INET: dwelliver@pro-hysteria.cts.com BBS: Hysteria (612)/557-2811 1200/2400 ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-hysteria!dwelliver@nosc.mil _______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jun 89 14:35:43 EST From: JC%RMC.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu Subject: Re: Venus & the Greenhouse effect.. mordor!rutgers!pro-hysteria.cts.com!dwelliver@angband.s1.gov writes: > I heard that Venus used to be a flourishing planet, and could have been much > like Earth, until the Greenhouse took into effect there. Does anyone know if > this is true, and if so, can you fill in a few details? Thanks.. It's true! I was having dinner with Elvis last week, and he told me that he used to live on Venus, which apparently used to be a lot like Palm Springs is today. When the Venusian climate took a turn for the worse he moved to Earth. He got tired of all the media attention here, and is now hiding out in the big UFO base under Baffin Island. John Coughlin, BULL Kingston (613) 541-6439 ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jun 89 14:43:08 GMT From: jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!me!ecf!murty@rutgers.edu (Hema Sandhyarani Murty) Subject: Re: Venus & the Greenhouse effect.. In article <1989May31.044452.19619@utzoo.uucp>, henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: > It's not that simple. There was a paper in Science a year or so ago -- > I can probably dig up an exact reference if really needed -- which went > into the details and established that Earth would not have a runaway > greenhouse effect even with far more CO2 than it has now. There are > a number of complications, like the effect of clouds on climate (they > tend to cool the surface, on the whole). The "habitable zone" around > the Sun is rather wider than was formerly thought; Earth is not on the > brink of becoming another Venus. > I would be extremely interested in the Science article if you could give me the reference. If cloud cool the surface, then they don't seem to helping Venus any. Actually I think what you might be referring to is the fact that on some planets, cloud cover prevents the heat from escaping and hence tends to cool the higher atmosphere, which then becomes colder? In ultraviolet light, a complex swirling weather system in the high atmosphere of Venus can be seen. The winds are around 100 m/s. The clouds of Venus turn out to be chiefly a concentrated solution of sulfuric acid. Even at its high, cool clouds things are hellish. Down on the surface it is always raining sulfuric acid! Is there any danger of driving the environment of the Earth toward the planetary Hell of Venus or the global ice age of Mars? The simple answer is that nobody knows. The study of global climate the comparison of the Earth with other worlds, are subjects in their earliest stages of development. Hema Murty, Institute for Aerospace Studies 4925 Dufferin St, Downsview, Ontario, M3H 5T6, Canada ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V9 #471 *******************