------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 07:45:20 -0700 (MST) From: Tokind Subject: File 6--Anarchy Gone Awry (Re: CuD 5.91) #3 ((MODERATORS' COMMENT: This general topic has degenerated into frivolousness on a few other newsgroups. There are, however, some serious issues in the net/anarchy topic. CuD will run serious responses. Flames, alt.wierdness, and ravings will be ignored)). A response to L. Detweiler's "Anarchy Gone Awry" It is clear that there are a lot of variations in the definition of the word "Anarchy" on the net. I like the definition that you quoted from author Bruce Sterling. It is exactly this undefined and unregimented quality that makes the net such a productive environment for the exchange of ideas. These same qualities are important for the practical development of such ideas, and the net has unparalleled value as a tool for education and reference. > In my view, to the contrary the Internet is largely > held together with the glue of social cohesion and human > civility, and ingredients that are destructive to that > order are likewise toxic to Cyberspace, and that, > conversely, virtually all of the excruciating poison in > the bloodstream today can be traced to violations and > perversions of that trust. The definition of Anarchy that I subscribe to is very well defined by the first part of your sentence. People are basically good, and all they need to remain good is a seat in a "community" of some sort. Communities that do not require basic standards of courtesy and respect do not last very long; they fold in on themselves as members destroy relationships and head off in other directions. Likewise, communities that are too strictly regimented drive off members who find the costs to their individuality and self-esteem too high to tolerate. We have all participated in newsgroups or mailing lists that took an ugly turn. It can be very disappointing when this happens, but if you stick around, things usually return to center--or the facility goes away. You can even locate sympathetic former members who will help console you in your disappointment. Likewise, each node on the Internet is a community. Each has certain standards of behavior and those standards are further informed by the relationship between the node and it's carrier. All of these relationships are formal at a "local" level, but are quite informal in a hierarchical sense. This is part of a definition of Anarchy that is not generally accepted in this country; I submit that the anarchy I am promoting is defined by an absence of formal, imposed, hierarchy. > ...the Internet has been over-promoted as %anarchic' by > certain subversive, quasi-criminal segments that have > found a tenacious hold there, namely extremist > libertarians and %Cryptoanarchists'. My interests are not criminal. Nor are they extremist. Yes, there are "antisocial" elements here, as there are anywhere else. The question of how we deal with criminal or antisocial acts, as individuals and as communities, is a very important one. As the communities of the Internet are working through these issues there are a number of other concerns, such as: o how can a 'network' guard against takeover by an overzealous government or criminal organization, o how can we insure an emergency communications capability in the case of a political or natural crisis, o how can resources best be applied to education, public or otherwise. Once upon a time the communications systems that we now refer to as "The Media" were a public system. The FCC defines the airwaves as a public trust, granted by license from the people, in exchange for a promise to uphold certain standards of wholesomeness and to practice generally in the "public interest". Mr. Detweiler, when I monitor my television and radio, I do not see what I consider a reasonable rendition of "the public trust" being exercised. With the possible exception of NPR, PBS and CSPAN, the communications being carried out on these systems are very narrowly limited to commercial objectives. It is obvious without much reflection that the result of this narrowly defined regulation is bland programming, the suppression of challenging ideas, and the loss of a diversity of representation. The whole system is designed around a "comfort factor". They hesitate to introduce any material that might be offensive to viewers in general. In the anarchy of the net I see a great potential for a new media that is truly democratic, truly interactive, and truly productive. Where each member is a "participant" rather than a mere "viewer". > While some of us have glimpsed various hideous > corners of Cyberspatial Hell, those who subscribe > to the Liberating Religion of Anarchy are in > their Paradise on the Internet As We Know It. > I call their Utopia a Ticking Time Bomb and a > Recipe for an Apocalypse. > I have come to these (admittedly melodramatic) > conclusions after %10 months and %3500 messages > of generally unpleasant and at times > excruciatingly troubling and painful reading > and participation on the Cypherpunks list and > many personal communications with the Cypherpunk > leaders... I applaud your concern and your interest in learning about what is going on in those "hideous corners". But I think that you should ask, in all honesty, if your explorations would have been possible on a centrally controlled "Internet". Social activism of the kind that you are practicing does not take place in an environment where a central authority--be it an agency, board, commission, president--whatever, regulates the activities and even the "exposure" of members. I like your idea for a Ratings server. But I probably like the idea for entirely different reasons than you do. I see this as a very effective tool for individuals and communities to fine-tune access to their interests. A teacher could use this mechanism to locate specific materials for teaching. A student could use it to track down research materials. A service provider could monitor the Ratings server for references that would be of interest to clients. A sysop could check for references to a service provided on his or her system in response to complaints from the community or in response to a request for a special service. Likewise, agencies or individuals who are investigating potential criminal activity could use the server to gather information. > The fantastic possibilities of this system are > evident upon some reflection and consideration. > We could establish arbitrary new groups that have > *formal* requirements that are matched by Ratings > servers. [...] We could require that membership in > certain groups requires a certain amount of > collateral peer approval, with automatic suspen- > sion or expulsion as the consequences for > violating it! ... We could restrict the influence > of troublemakers! ... I support your conclusions--to a point! I am frustrated with the signal to noise ration on the television set. I only have three controls at my disposal: MUTE, CHANNEL, and OFF. On the internet, the controls available to me are almost infinite. I can even craft my own! The important distinction is that I am a _participant_. I can make my own choices about what I see, and the choices available are not established by consensus but by interest. I can create or contribute to a program that interests me. I don't want ANY "automatic" controls whatsoever! > Note that there is no centralized authority or > unfair influence in this system, unless people > corrupt their servers. While you are certainly correct in the sense that the server would not be physically centralized, you do not address the question of the Ratings server becoming an Ideologically central control on participation. The second part of your statement is ignored by your argument--but could have dire implications for individual liberties at a community level. De-facto Majority rule has every bit as much potential for injustice as "dictatorship". I refer you to the history of the Third Reich. (That was my final and only melodramatic contribution |:-% ) I would urge you and readers of your essay to consider whether the right questions are being asked. Again, I support the idea of a Ratings server, although the name could stand some work. At present the net is being molded by a number of new influences. Businesses, both large and small are moving in. Many of these are interested in the net as common carrier. Government is moving towards a VERY active role in the regulation and development of the Internet. And people are pouring onto the net in numbers that could not have been anticipated just two years ago. There are other influences, but these are the most visible right now. What are the potential influences of these interests? Could any or all of them have the effect of stifling freedom on the net? Business might like to limit competition for bandwidth by exercising a right to "filter" in the "Public interest". Government would almost certainly like to keep a tight grip on any activity that might be considered criminal or subversive. And the people; well, many will be confused for a time. There will be some stumbling around and a decreased signal-to-noise ratio for obvious reasons. That famous vocal minority will also be there, looking to sanitize the net. This will only encourage the arguments of business and government to regulate activities and participation on the net. > I fervently hope that the glorifications and > manipulations of Internet Anarchy by mouth- > frothing libertarian extremists, Cryptoanarchists, > and sympathizers can be adequately controlled and > minimized in the future, and some harmonious > systems and effective countermeasures along the > lines of the Rating server can be established by > visionaries and tinkerers, but in any case, for > the sake of humanity's integrity, sanity, and > well-being, I pray that Future Cyberspace is far > less Anarchic than the Current Internet. Many "visionaries" start out their careers as "mouth-frothing extremists", at least as far as their "peer review groups" are concerned. Only the perspective of hindsight can define what has value and what is noise. Harmonious systems are boring and static. They have a tendency to aim for the lowest common denominator. We have quite enough of this in our other "established" media systems. I think that the question you should be asking is, how can we preserve the individual voice--the free exchange of ideas--in an environment that is quickly evolving into an important domain for "The Big Boys?" =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ + END THIS FILE + +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+===+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=