Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 15:51:38 GMT From: jmcarli@SRV.PACBELL.COM(Jerry M. Carlin) Subject: File 2--Bell System Policies - in Re CuD 4.35 ((MODERATORS' COMMENT: We asked Jerry Carlin and John Higdon to frame their discussion of Bell System/Bellcore policies as a point-counterpoint exchange. We found their discussion exceptionally informative and commend them for putting together a stimulating sequence of posts)). In CuD 4.35, John Higdon wrote: >But the policy of "The Bell System" and now Bellcore and the RBOCs >seems to be to do nothing about any such problems and wait for some >phreak to get caught with a hand in the cookie jar... I'm not going to argue history but John's contention that Bellcore and the RBOCs are doing nothing is incorrect. BTW, I work for PacBell. Some examples: Bellcore has issued "Technical Advisories" on the subject of security including FA-NWT-000835 "Generic Framework Requirements for Network Element and Network System Security Administration Messages" and FA-STS-001324 "Framework Generic Requirements for X Window System Security". They participate in security organizations such as IEEE P1003.6 doing security standards for POSIX (UNIX) and ISO/IEC JTC1/SC27 and ANSI X3T4 (a mouthful :-) I personally voted on the last draft of P1003.6, spending quite a bit of time to try to fathom a very large document. Also, a set of Bellcore security requirements forms a large part of a draft NIST "Minimum Security Functionality Requirements for Multi-User Operating Systems" (MSFR) document designed to replace the DoD Orange Book. They are doing work on using Kerberos and exploring OSF/DCE security features to increase the robustness of distributed applications. We (Pacbell) have spent millions of dollars implementing various security measures including security packages (RACF for MVS) and in using Security Dynamics "SecureID" cards for dial access. We have been working on enhancing UNIX security. Bellcore has developed a UNIX Security Toolkit which added many features to the basic scripts first outlined in the book "UNIX System Security" by Wood & Kochan. They added a one-week course on UNIX security to their curriculum. We and they now have security components to reviews of applications. Bellcore developed a set of UNIX security requirements and asked all the major vendors to respond. Systems security is now part of the purchasing decisions. Is all of this enough? Well, that is another argument but I hope it's clear that Bellcore and Pacbell (and the other RBOCS) are "doing something". ++++ Jerry M. Carlin (510) 823-2441 jmcarli@srv.pacbell.com Alchemical Engineer and Virtual Realist Downloaded From P-80 International Information Systems 304-744-2253