Path: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.alpha.net!earth.execpc.com!not-for-mail From: rmark@earth.execpc.com (Richard Mark) Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.ads,alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs,alt.bbs.lists,comp.bbs.misc,alt.answers,news.answers Subject: = 7/95 Guide to Select BBS's on Internet [1/2] = Followup-To: poster Date: 21 Jun 1995 12:05:27 -0500 Organization: Exec-PC Lines: 415 Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.EDU Message-ID: <3s9jgn$8b4@earth.alpha.net> Reply-To: cerebus@dkmail.dkeep.com NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.execpc.com Summary: A Comprehensive listing of BBS's accessible via telnet/rlogin; also called the "SBI List" Keywords: telnet, bbs, sbi Xref: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu alt.bbs.internet:32576 alt.bbs.ads:19905 alt.bbs.allsysop:13685 alt.bbs:46674 alt.bbs.lists:12776 comp.bbs.misc:22387 alt.answers:10126 news.answers:46795 Archive-name: internet/bbs/list/part1 Posting-Frequency: monthly Last-modified: 6/21/95 GUIDE TO SELECT BBS'S ON THE INTERNET (SBI LIST) ------------------------------------------------- Copyright 1994, 1995 by Richard S. Mark, all rights reserved (cerebus@dkmail.dkeep.com) Featured in BBS Magazine, Boardwatch and West Coast Online July, 1995 Edition Posted Version [part 1 of 2] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The SBI list is a comprehensive guide to BBS systems accessible by telnet and/or rlogin on the Internet, and is updated monthly. The files that make up the list are available for download from various locations (outlined in "Where to find the SBI files"), in a wide variety of ways. To make this posting complete, I've included the most of main files that make up the actual archive. As of the 3/95 list, the detailed "Guide to Select BBS's on Internet" is no longer be available via Usenet due to its ever-increasing size. However, I strongly urge anyone interested in Internet BBS's to get a copy of the detailed listing, which includes a great deal of additional information about each BBS than is listed in this posting. A WEB version of the detailed listing is also available, and provides a "guided tour" of Internet BBS's. To get a copy of the detailed list, or for information about the WEB page, see the section "Where to find the SBI Files", included in this posting. This "posted version" of the list is divided into (2) parts: PART 1: - README.1ST - Revision information about this month's edition of the SBI list. - README.DOC - General information about the SBI list. Includes "How to get the SBI files". - SYSOP.DOC - How to become a part of the list; BBS information addition/update form. - WHERE TO FIND THE SBI FILES - General info about how to get the complete Guide by FTP, modem, finger, and WWW PART 2: The "Quick" Guide to Select BBS's on Internet - a short summary of all the BBS's on the list, along with IP addresses. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========== README.1ST ========== SBI REVISION NOTES 07/95 ------------------------ NEW "WHAT'S NEW" LIST --------------------- Now that so many users are regularly accessing the SBI list each month, many have asked me to create a seperate "What's New This Month" list. So, there are two new additions to the SBI list: 1 - The "New BBS's this Month" text listing (SBIN0795.LST) 2 - A new WEB entry to take a "Guided Tour of New Systems this Month" BBS Magazine has also just agreed to run the "What's New" list in subsequent issues. (The August issue features the complete SBI list.) NEW SYSTEM REGISTRATION/UPDATE FORM ON THE WEB ---------------------------------------------- With a LOT of help from the good people at Concentric Research (CHRIS), and specifically Patrick Doyle at CRIS, sysops will soon be able to submit new or updated system information via the WEB! In fact, this is actually the BEST way to make sure all your information is included in future lists. All you need is a "forms compatible" WEB browser (most are). Check for the new option to appear on the the WEB page sometime in July. SBI LIST SPONSORS ----------------- The SBI list now depends on a growing number of people and organizations. It's only fair that some level of recognition is given for all their hard work and contributions. The SBI printed list and WEB page will now feature a short listing of "SBI Sponsors". These are NOT "ads", but more in line with "sponsors" in the PBS sense :) On the WEB page, the sponsors section will include links to their respsective WEB pages. If you think your organization has something special they can contribute, drop me a note! (Inclusion as an SBI sponsor is solely at the discretion of the SBI author, Richard Mark). SBI LIST - NEW SORTING ---------------------- I finally followed the advice of Mark Shapiro at West Coast Online and no longer sort system names by the "The" in the name. So a system named "The Best BBS" will be sorted as "Best BBS" and not "The Best BBS". WEB SITE RENOVATION ------------------- As many have already noticed, the SBI WEB site is under major renovation. I hope everyone likes the new improvements! The SBI home page is located at: http://dkeep.com/sbi.htm GETTING THE SBI LIST VIA INTERNET EMAIL --------------------------------------- The "experiment" started last month has been successful, and getting the SBI list via email is now an "official" access method. The list(s) will come UUENCODED - so it's still not the cleanest method or best use of internet bandwidth. In general, onoy use this method if no other method is available to you. To get information on how to access the SBI list via email, send an email to: info@dkmail.dkeep.com Put the single word "SBI" (without the quotes) in the message TITLE/SUBJECT. An information file will be dispatched automatically within 24 hours. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 8/95 edition is scheduled for release in last week of July. Till then...keep on surfin'... Your SBI list author (and very happy cyber-dad), Richard (cerebus@dkmail.dkeep.com) ========== README.DOC ========== GUIDE TO SELECT BBS'S VIA TELNET 7/95 ---------------------------------------------- Thank you for downloading the 7/95 edition of the SBI (Select BBS's on the Internet) BBS listing. This listing will be updated MONTHLY, unless there are no changes or additions to the list from the prior month. This list will always be called SBI.ZIP Files in this archive should include: ------------------------------------- SBI0795.LST Select BBS's via Internet list (full detail) SBIQ0795.LST Select BBS's via Internet "Quick" list (just names and addresses) SBIN0795.LST NEW BBS Systems for this month. README.DOC The file you are reading now README.1ST Important revision information SYSOP.DOC How to become a part of the SBI list HISTORY.DOC How this list came about Other files available on the official FTP site (dkunix.dkeep.com): ------------------------------------------------------------------ SBI-HTML.ZIP HTML page of all SBI systems, with telnet and WEB links and full descriptions, for World-Wide-Web SBI-IAB.ZIP SBI list in "Internet Address Book" (By GWW software) import format (MBBS Only). COMT.ZIP A great program that redirects Windows communications software to use a telnet connection so you can download via Zmodem from SLIP/PPP WHY ANOTHER INTERNET BBS LIST? ------------------------------ The answer to this is simple - other internet BBS lists mostly contain government or educational based BBS's. They are not what most "BBS'ers" would usually call a "BBS" - which are very diverse and colorful systems that offer just about everything - messages, files, games, chat, and other services - and up until recently, were mostly accessible via long distance phone calls! This is a list of "real" BBS's accessible via TELNET and RLOGIN on the Internet. We feel a good and FREE listing of these systems will not only help promote BBS's on the 'net, but also act as an invaluable aid to the new Internet user trying (and sometimes desperately searching) for useful and *fun* systems to visit out in cyberspace. This list does *not* contain any opinions or editorials of the systems listed - it is merely a listing, with details provided (where possible) by the BBS sysops themselves. HOW DO I ACCESS THESE BBS'S VIA THE INTERNET? --------------------------------------------- This "guide" is not designed to be a tutorial of "how to use the Internet", nor is it a guide to "how to get access to the Internet". There are hundreds of "help" files available on the network, or on your favorite BBS to help you out. Most of the systems listed in this list offer Internet access, and can be called using a modem and phone line. Once you get setup on one of these systems (or gain access to the Internet through some other means), you can access all of the systems listed by using a "TELNET" client. This works differently for different systems, but one common example would be: telnet (ex: telnet boardwatch.com) or telnet (ex: 199.84.216.1) Some systems integrate "telnet" into a menu prompt, which after execution will simply ask you to enter the host name or IP address. Some systems also offer the ability to use RLOGIN for the same purpose as TELNET. I'd suggest you try TELNET first... Another method is to telnet via a WWW page. If you have access to the Web, you can use this URL - http://dkeep.com/sbi.htm SPECIAL NOTE ABOUT FILE TRANSFERS: --------------------------------- Even though most of the BBS's listed support "outgoing" FTP, many of the "PC" based systems listed here do not support FTP (File Transfer Protocol) TO their PC-Based file systems (which is where most of the files are). One solution for those that use dial-up accounts for their internet access (where the user dials into the service with a PC using a communications package such as Procomm or Qmodem), is to use ordinary "Z-modem" once telnetted into the BBS. However, in order for this to work, you MUST USE 8-BIT BINARY MODE for your telnet session, or rlogin using the -8 command line parameter. Different "telnet" and "rlogin" clients handle mode settings in their own way, so check with your service, documentation, or look thru your help files to see how this is done. Many telnet clients use "toggle binary" to set 8-bit mode. I've accomplished transfer rates of 1800 cps via telnet on a 14.4 connection - so it IS possible. Granted, the Internet is a fickle place when it comes to throughput, so your actual rates will vary. FILE TRANSFERS WITH SLIP/PPP ---------------------------- For those users with a SLIP/PPP connection, a great program called "ComT" allows you to redirect a comm port to be a telnet socket! This allows you to use ANY standard Windows-based communications software to telnet to a an SBI BBS and then use a regular download protocol (such as Zmodem) for file transfers! The ComT program is available at the dkunix.dkeep.com FTP site as COMT.ZIP. Shareware. Another package called "CommNet" has just become available. Unlike ComT, it is a complete communications package in itself, specializing in SLIP/PPP telnet connections. It features a phone book for dial-up AND telnet connections, and supports high speed Zmodem and Ymodem-G file transfers. You can get a "demo" copy via FTP at ftp.radient.com Registration costs $34.95. LEGAL MUMBO-JUMBO ----------------- THIS LIST IS COPYRIGHT 1994,1995 BY RICHARD S. MARK. THIS LIST MAY BE ELECTRONICALLY DISTRIBUTED FREE OF CHARGE AS LONG AS IT IS UNALTERED OR UNMODIFIED IN ANY WAY. THIS INCLUDES BBS-ADS WITHIN THE MAIN ZIP FILE! (IF YOU HAVE THE COMPULSION TO ADD AN ADVERTISEMENT, PUT IT IN A ZIP COMMENT.) WE ENCOURAGE USERS AND SYSOPS TO DISTRIBUTE THIS LIST AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THIS LIST, OR ANY PORTION THEREOF, MAY NOT BE SOLD OR BECOME PART OF A SALE OF SERVICES, EQUIPMENT, SOFTWARE, OR DATA WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF RICHARD S. MARK. I PROVIDE THE LIST FOR FREE, AND EXPECT EVERYONE ELSE TO AS WELL. THIS LIST, OR ANY PORTION THEREOF, MAY NOT BE RE-PUBLISHED IN NON- ELECTRONIC FORM, OR BE JOINED AS PART OF ANY OTHER PUBLICATION (ELECTRONIC OR OTHERWISE) WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF RICHARD S. MARK. BBS SYSTEMS INCLUDED IN THIS LIST ARE INCLUDED AT THE SOLE DESCRETION OF THE AUTHOR, RICHARD S. MARK. THE AUTHOR RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REFUSE TO LIST ANY SYSTEM SOLEY AT HIS DESCRETION. ANY SYSTEM APPEARING IN THIS LIST THAT DOES NOT WISH TO BE LISTED NEED MERELY CONTACT THE AUTHOR BY INTERNET EMAIL (cerebus@dkmail.dkeep.com) AND REQUEST THAT THEIR ENTRY BE DELETED. THIS LIST IS PROVIDED AS A *FREE* PUBLIC SERVICE TO THE BBS AND INTERNET ELECTRONIC COMMUNITIES. INDIVIDUALS ACCESS AND USE THE SYSTEMS ON THIS LIST COMPLETELY AT THEIR OWN RISK. THE AUTHOR AND DISTRIBUTORS OF THIS LIST BEAR NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CONTENT OF THE THE SYSTEMS ON THIS LIST, NOR DO THEY BEAR ANY RESPONSIBLITY FOR FILES DOWNLOADED FROM ANY OF THE SYSTEMS ON THIS LIST. THERE IS NO WARRANTY, IMPLIED OR OTHERWISE, FOR ANY OF THE SYSTEMS ON THIS LIST OR ANY OF THEIR SERVICES. LOOK, IF YOU WANT TO CALL A BBS, IT'S UP TO YOU. YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE A GREAT AND WONDERFUL TIME. BBS'S ARE FANTASTIC RESOURCES. BUT YOU ARE 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS - SO DON'T BE A WEENIE. ======================================================================= =============== SYSOP.DOC 7/95 =============== HOW TO BECOME PART OF THE SBI LIST: ----------------------------------- There is no fee required to become a part of this list. The ONLY requirements are: 1. The BBS must be privately owned (no Freenets, and no University BBS's). 2. The BBS must be accessible on the Internet via TELNET and/or RLOGIN. 3. It must BE a "BBS" of some kind - sites that provide internet services, must also have a variety of local services. This is not a listing of mere "internet providers". 4. The BBS must be in operation "24 hours" a day, excluding maintenance and mail-run times, and Internet accessibility must be active during normal BBS operating time. (For example, sites that connect to the Internet for only couple of hours a day are NOT on this list.) 5. The BBS must accept new users. What's the point in advertising a "closed" system that won't let anyone login? We also request that any additions or changes to this list be submitted by a sysop of the system (we don't take user-contributions of list information) - this is to protect the integrity of the list, and the systems on the list. Please also be sure to supply a valid internet address. THE LIST AUTHOR RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REJECT ANY SUBMISSION. So far, this hasn't happened...but you never know. I wouldn't include a BBS dedicated to kiddie porn, for example. NOTE: I WILL verify additions to this list via telnet! I do not require or request a "guest" account - I am merely confirming that the telnet address is "alive" and eventually gets me to some kind of login prompt. SUBMITTING NEW/UPDATED SYSTEM INFORMATION ----------------------------------------- There are now (2) ways to submit new/updated system information: 1 - Fill out the form at the end of this document, and send it via internet email to: cerebus@dkmail.dkeep.com 2 - Access the SBI WEB page (http://dkeep.com/sbi.htm), select the option to "Submit new/updated BBS information", fill out the interactive WEB input form, and press the SUBMIT button. (This option will be available in Mid-July). SUBMITTING VIA EMAIL -------------------- Submit new systems or updates by completing the information below, and send it via internet email to: cerebus@dkmail.dkeep.com Please don't send submissions to ALL of the addresses above. I only include them in case someone has a problem with the main address (you know how internet email can be..). For MBBS systems on other mail networks, other valid addresses are: Cerebus@DKM (MajorNET) or Cerebus@30 (Netaccess) ------------------------------------------------------------------ New/Updated System Information Form: ------------------------------------------------------------------- System Name: (system name) TELNET: (host name and IP address) FTP: (host name or IP, anonymous FTP ok?) FINGER: (addresses for info / whoson) WWW: (HTML address/page name) Sysop email: (address(es) - up to 2) Guest/New Login: (what do new signups or visitors login as) Phone Access: (list phone numbers, up to 4) Location: (city, state, country) Number of Nodes: (total nodes) Pay: (y/n/opt) Type: (BBS software) DESCRIPTION: (enter up to 10 lines, no longer that 72 characters long each) ------------------------------------------------------------------- I appreciate the information! I think a list like this will benefit everyone - and I pledge to keep it as accurate and up-to-date as is humanly possible. Please don't hesitate writing me if you have any questions or need additional info. - Richard cerebus@dkmail.dkeep.com ======================================================================= WHERE TO FIND THE SBI FILES: WWW http://dkeep.com/sbi.htm - includes a Guided Tour of Internet BBS's from around the world. FTP dkunix.dkeep.com (in /pub/sbi) - login:anonymous gcomm.com (in /internet) - login: anonymous ftp.rahul.net (in pub/wco) - login: ftp FINGER sbi@dkeep.com (Information about the SBI List) sbiq@dkeep.com ("Quick" Guide to Select BBS's on Internet) sbi-info@dkeep.com (Revision Information for current list) sbi-sysop@dkeep.com (How to Become a Part of the SBI list) EMAIL info@dkmail.dkeep.com - put the word "SBI" in the TITLE/SUBJECT (Info will be sent within 24 hours) BBS: Dragon Keep - dkeep.com / (904) 375-3500 (signup, then type /GO SBI) West Coast Online - bbs.calon.com / (707) 586-5250 (signup, /GO SBI) Software Creations BBS - swcbbs.com / (508) 368-7036 ExecPC - bbs.execpc.com / (414) 789-4360 Or call you Favorite BBS and download SBI0795.ZIP ==============================================================================