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Every time I come here anymore, I feel ill. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: KEWL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Isn't that the same board that gets RBCP so mad when it goes whacko? Do you need to go to hotmail before you go there? I sure don't want those buzzards to have my isp. ----------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: lol E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 why would it get him mad? it's on his own web page. he can do anything to it. if you spam it, he can delete it. if you crash it, he can reinstall the whole thing in 2 minutes or less. his life does not revolve around the web board on his page, in fact he rarely looks at it. now on the other hand, you women live, eat, and breathe this board. you most likely hyperventilate when you can get on it. your threats against the pla web board are one of your more hysterical threats. you are always good for a laugh. keep up the great work. ----------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Newbie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 What is this forum about? Nobody will talke to me on any of the ones down there. ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: Phred E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 It depends on how big your ISP is. If it is a large one, and your IP address changes every time you dial in, then spam away, hang up, dial back in. Waaaalla, brand new IP address. Make your ISP block any finger or whois info on you, and you're anonymous. ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: To; Thread starter E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 You must think we're really stupid. Isn't this called the bread crumb techinique? Let's see how many starving pigeons follow you. --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Dr. Ool E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 I thought it was called the Pied Piper techinique. It's sorta like posting the URL of a webpage that has a button on it that spams the BNF when clicked. ----------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: WoW, PhreD E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Your advice is so kewl. I never would have figured that out for myself! I am not worthy! I am not worthy! ------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Mr. Wilson E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 i just checked out that site. there is a nice discussion about dogs. i told them about my cocker spaniel. ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: Mr. Wilson...Mr. Wilson E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Dennis is calllllling. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ruff, ruff E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Ruff! ------------------------------------------------------- PLA in general Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Phantom Operator E-mail: phanop@hotmail.com Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 actually, none of you know exactly what you're talking about. there is much disagreement over the existance of the PLA. there is a PLA. it is seperate from the ezine. the ezine was RBCPs thing. a lot of us internet lamerz go around claiming we're "PLA" when we aren't really in the group. the reason i do that is because i believe that being a phone loser is a state of mind, and doesn't have anything to do with being in the group. i don't know why you guys think it is so cool that you have a little info on tannest (who is cute by the way) and logic. it doesn't really matter, okay? even if you did stop them, there would always be losers like me that don't know when to quit. anyway Detective X, after you get a little "sleep", i'm awaiting your little games. have fun you strange bunch of grapes, Phantom Operator --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective O E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Actually, it is the PLA wannabees who don't know what they are talking about. The story of this war is well known now. Logic and Tannest started the war by stirring up trouble here just for something to do. It went on for a few weeks way back in Feb and March, but died out. The whole conflict has been a series of attack, counter-attack on both sides. The only problem was, the PALs didn't count on some of these 80 year old ladies kicking their ass. Once it became widely known why discussion of the murder of a child was being disrupted, more and more people became upset by it. The PALs were so intelligent that they blamed everything on some poor woman named Linda. It never occured to them that there might be 30 or 40 Lindas. And we don't EVER give up. We were willing to forget the whole mess, and get back to talking JB, but they wouldn't leave well enough alone. We only come in response to their actions. --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Grumpy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Detective O, Dont you think that they have the right to make threads here? It says on the bottom that I have every right to make a thread if I want. Why don't you leave these ladies alone? ----------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective O E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 It doesn't say that on my bottom. ---------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective RPQSTUV E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Its really more than that. The PLA has been really bad to some people. They have winnuked some of them. Then they have sent email bombs to some. They got these addresses from when people went to irc. Then a long time ago they called one of the old ladies at home and she went berserk. She shreiked and cried for a long time. She throught they were coming to get her. Then they put up webpages for some of the posters and had lies and real gross pictures of them. Then they put JonBenet's head on the naked body of a real nasty woman and spread that around. They think all this is fun. But it hurts people. They are very cruel. ---------------------------------------------------------- LOGIC BOX DIES TODAY! Return to the Ramsey forum index page ----------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: LOGIC BOX DIES TODAY! E-mail: logic Location: box Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 All please be advised that a copy of the PLA issue of April 6th, 1997 has been forwarded to Mr. Pete Tuana, Principal of Fremont High School in Sunnyvale, California. LogicBox posted his article as "Ramsey Forum Fun." Let's see him try to lie his way out of this! ------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Jason E-mail: ungungung Location: ungungung Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Jesus, what do you think his principal & teachers are going to do about this? Take away his web access at school? Big deal, I'm sure he doesn't spend the entire school day on the web, if any of it. You people are obsessed over a high school kid - how does that feel? Think back to when you were in high school...Somebody calls your principal and whines to him that you are trashing their (for example) lawn. What would you principal say? Probably something along the lines of "call the cops, I only deal with him at school." His principal isn't going to give a shit. They might watch him a little closer while he's using the computer maybe. You act as if what your doing is so clever. --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: I have to agree E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 just what do you think they are going to do to this kid? public caining? --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: ack Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 What's even worse is that these are the same people who claim to be private detectives and post my information all over this board. The sad thing is that every single bit of information they've posted has come directly off my page. I've written about all the intimate details of my life and they think this is detective work. They haven't even posted my phone number yet and I'm LISTED. Have fun at school today, Logic. Don't forget that they're going to ruin your life before the day is over. Your principal is going to have a looooooong talk with you concerning your activities outside of school hours and we know how much he cares. ---------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Historian E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Your phone number and address have been posted on this forum. ---------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: REST E-mail: IN Location: PEACE Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 you little creep -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: TOO BAD ABOUT LOGIC BOX! E-mail: End of the road for him! Location: PLA'ers are here! Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Go ahead and whine and cry, PLA'ers! Too bad about Ryan Scott. He left a WORLD of evidence regarding hiis TRASHING of this forum. His High School Principal, Mr. Tuana will not be amused. I suggest that you find something better to do rather than to follow in LogicBox's pathetic footsteps. Ryan Scott isn't going to make graduation next summer. LogicBox thought he was smart. Not at all. Anyone who is in high school and arrogant leaves a trail. Sorry, Ryan! You might want to confess all that you have done to Mr. Tuana! If you don't, well, we are here. And, we will be looking for you and your newest insults. Youu think that you can post damage to people who care about the DEATH of a little girl? Please don't address your principal as Pete. It's Mr.Tuana to you! Have a bad day! 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ibaibaibaibaibaibaiba E-mail: I'll Take Over Location: Where Logicbox Left Off Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Just thought you should know, HES NOT THE ONLY ONE DOING THE TRASHING HAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!! IBAIBAIBAIBAIBA Mr. Anon E Moose ----------------------------------------------------- Posted by: How ludicrous you BNF'rs are. E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Let me get this straight. Because Logic Box has participated in the "trashing" of a bulletin board owned by a newspaper, that seems not to give a damn.... He has done whatever he has done, (and let me guarantee you, he's done a small percentage of it) outside of school, on his personal computer, you say he's not going to be graduating from High School. That's the most ignorant thing I have ever heard. You are begininning to sound in need of Thorazine. Your insanity is out of control. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To How Ludicrous E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 If Ryan Scott is in a detention facility for fraud and theft of telephone company property, how is he going to graduate? I do have friends that work for Pacific Telesis and AT&T, and this is not going unnoticed. ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: . E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 You Say: "I do have friends that work for Pacific Telesis and AT&T, and this is not going unnoticed. " No way, you do NOT have friends, you are friendless. ------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BNF'er E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Agree. It is ludicrous that you think a pranking teenager is going to be prosecuted big time for this silliness. It is obvious that you can get away with murder in California and Colorado, what's the big deal over a newspaper foum cyber war. get a grip. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: ohio Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 It's okay, they've sworn that both me and my wife are going to be prosecuted and put in prison for 15 years for spamming this board. This was supposed to have happened last month. I'm still waiting in fear. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: San Jose Police Dept. High Tech Crimes Unit E-mail: SJPDHITEK@aol.com Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 How much do they know about our dear Logic Box in neighboring Sunnyvale and his electronic harassment pranks? --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: How E-mail: Soon Location: Is Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 This going to happen, I'm getting tired of waiting. ----------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: When E-mail: Will Location: This Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Happen, I am tired of waiting!!..... ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: What about all the people... E-mail: you don't know about? Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 The funniest thing is that the people you're targeting aren't even avid "forum destroyers" anymore. Sure, they lured everyone else here...the people who, in their boredom, found a vague light of interest here. How do I know? I am one of them. Now, I don't expect that this will change anything in the least. I don't expect much out of you anymore, in light of the last few months. I'd just like you to know that if you succeed in removing the three people that you are convinced of...nothing will change. Nothing at all. --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: more fun E-mail: and Location: good times in the forum Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Isn't this about as evil as teenagers t-ping the trees in your yard? Somebody is over-reacting here. I don't think the kids are as bad as the posters who are obsessed with them. I actually prefer them. They are more grown up than the people who are supposed to be grownup themselves. Kids- maybe if you made sure to spell the obcene words right, you wouldn't get picked on so bad by the blue haired old ladies. They don't give a rat's ass about the content, just the style. -------------------------------------------------------- Why the PLA killed Jonbenet! The REAL reason! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: MadDog� E-mail: jrzyplyr69@webtv.net Location: Jersey Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 The PLA killed Jonbenet because she crank called them and called RBCP a jerk! And she ordered personal calling cards under a lot of peoples names and she spammed my bulletin board and wrote me dirty emails. I SWEAR! She was a supreme hacker that got hacked. Payback's a bitch! She also third party billed me for phone calls to China and Russia. How she was able to master phreaking so well, we'll never know, but she was awesome. That little bitch could dumpster dive the shit outta every other phreak I've ever seen! Personally, if the PLA didnt do it I know for a fact it had to be AMERITECH! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: THIS IS A PLA'er, folks! E-mail: Fighting them as I can! Location: They are worthless and taking over here! Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Not funny, not convincing. Don't you think that all of us are extremely tired of your silly antics here? Your buddy, Mr. Scott is in a WORLD of trouble. Would you care to join him? Ryan has to answer to all of the complaints. And guess what? I bet he snitches on ALL of You just so he can make Graudation Day next year. As if you people could depend on him! His Principal has access to all the rotten things that Ryan did here. Do youu care to join him? Your parent/s (mother without husband) etc. WON'T be amused. Think about it. And forget interference here. It just won't work. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Mr. Anon E Moose E-mail: ibaibaiba@microsoft.com Location: no where Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Just thought id say something, why would logicbox's principal care about his trashing of the forum? It occured outside school. NOT INSIDE. Mr. Anon E Moose -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: TO: Mr. Dumb Ass Moose E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 How do you know that Ryan Scott does not terrorize this forum from school and during school hours? How do you know that Ryan Scott does not utilize the school's unix system to access the net from his home computer? How do you know that Ryan Scott does not use the school unix system to set up his own domains? Enlighten us Mr. Moose. Educate us, Mr. Moose. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: MadDog� E-mail: Location: Jersey Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 I think the principal would be happy for LOGICBOX because all he's doing is exercising his 1st amendment rights by aggravating you old fucks into a bingo frenzy rather than selling drugs, fighting, being a male hooker, exotic dancer, truck driver, an old lady from Colorado, and other horrible things. If he's got computer smarts he'll probably wind up working for some computer company and making more oney that all you old fucks. So stop being jealous. If you dont like the posts than go to another bbs. There's only several million out on the net. Try leaving your narrow minded world of Boulder. By the way, Jonbenet also beige boxed my moms house and sent pizzas to my work. Now that she's dead, we can rest easy! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: A Question E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 If Logic Box has a criminal record, how is he going to be employed in the computer industry and make all of those mega bucks? Have you heard of background checks and security clearances you dumb fucks? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: MadDog� E-mail: Location: Jersey Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Sorry asshole, your juvenile records are shut after you turn 18. And besides misdemeanors dont count. Just felonys. Something you're probably very familiar with. I told Boulder police about your nude photos of Jonbenet. You're gonna get yours punk! --------------------------------------------------------- www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/5420/killpla.html Return to the Ramsey forum index page --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: they're going down E-mail: killpla@mail.excite.com Location: Hickory, North Carolina Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 I've set up a page that will list all details known to regular BNFers about the PLA and their members. It's at http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/5420/killpla.html --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: kianhui E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 kianhui, why you trying to trick these people? --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Don't Go E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 I'm suspicious of this. I think just the fact that they have Hickory, NC as their address where this came from says WHOA! Jameson wouldn't have done this. Don't go there. -------------------------------------------------------- Post all known PLA Personal info here Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Zontar E-mail: Location: Ready to act NOW Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Please post the names, addresses and phone numbers of these little dweebs for those who would like to "take matters into our own hands". Nobody cares if you spam a "stupid" newspaper forum? Probably. Who will care when these little assholes are nabbed after class and then get sent home MINUS a couple of index fingers and thumbs? It might throw a bit of a crimp into how efficiently they can play their little cyber-pussy tricks, and I know I'm not the only one ready to do it. Have you read their PLA websight, complete with their valuable insights into "power-shoplifting" at Mervyn's? It's not like these faggots have anything meaningful to contribute to society anyway, or going to be missed by anybody, except perhaps their trailer-trash parents. I뭢 in retail security/ loss prevention at a major department store. The shoplifting information posted on the PLA sight is very accurate, and very real. This is an ongoing criminal conspiracy, and very I뭭e taken it upon myself to copy all pages from their websight where they ADMIT to activities that are clearly felonies at SPECIFIC stores, and have e-mailed them to the heads of security at Mervyn뭩 and Sears, where these people have ADMITTED to committing these crimes and instruct others in how to commit them. I have a funny feeling when all the names and addresses come out and are also forwarded to store security officials, that these faggots will be no stranger to them. At least the stores can initiate a helluva CIVIL suit against those who posted this kind of information or maintains these sites... it뭩 been done before. I뭗 bet on the 밺eep pockets� of Sears or Mervyn뭩 anyday of the week against the resources of these kids parents. Think the First Amendment gives you the right to publish admissions to thefts of specific items at specific stores, then tell others how to do it? Think they can뭪 lay a hand on you for that? You poor girls should have spent a little more time in civics class and a little less in computer sci. Don뭪 you just love the ethos of these kids? 밚et뭩 wreck it, just 멵ause it뭩 wreckable!� Would the same ethics apply if I found their addresses (and we will), break into their bedrooms and trash their computer with a sledgehammer simply because it bugs us? Why Not! Never mind that my grandmother could pull off their brand of 밾acking� if she were so inclined and had that much time on her hands! Come on, pussies! If you뭨e so cool, lets see some REAL hacking! Change the name 밄OULDER FORUM� at the top of the page to 밫HE PLA FORUM�! Replace Jon-Benet뭩 picture with Pamela Anderson뭩! That뭩 the kind of stuff REAL net hackers can do... they wouldn뭪 even bother themselves with something so mundane like logging on and off their ISP just to create new threads on a newspaper forum. How Pathetic! So we get 멷m in court, or with the tin snips... who cares? Lets just get rid of them! POST THOSE NAMES AND ADDRESSES! You kids want to sit in judgment of this forum and it's merit? Fine. We're now going sit in judgment of YOU and YOUR worth! Terrible things happen to kids every day... such a shame. You'll never be missed. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: MadDog� E-mail: Thats for me to know and you to find out fuckface! Location: Seattle PLA! Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 WOW! I am really scared! Im, however am no 16yr old punk. Do ever get around to Seattle? I would love to meet you and have a little face to face with your punk ass. If you post here in response to this and ask me to, I will call you. I promise I wont phreak on you. I'll give you my number to call too. Just let me know tough guy. I would love to see you people hack away and get my address. If you do get it, please post it so I may take civil suit against you for libel, defamation of character, obstruction of my right to free speech, harassment, racism, grand theft auto, and pedophilia. By the way, if you people could offer us help, maybe we could be friends. Just kidding you fucking asshole!:) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: John Z E-mail: Location: Sunnyvale Ca Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 I've only been on here a couple of week, but I'm also disgusted by these teenagers. Poor babies... now that "Welcome Freshman" is no longer on Nick, and "Clarissa Explains It All" is just re-runs, these girls no longer seem to have any more purpose in their life, so they've started playing with their parents computer. I have REAL computer skills and can inflict some REAL computer hurt. While I'm sure bits and pieces of "PLA" information has been posted, can somebody give us a "quick and dirty" summary of who they are and what we know about them? When tons of raunchy porn suddenly starts getting uploaded to every Government/ Corporate/ Religious sight that "magically' leads straight back to them (a simple hack for somebody who REALLY knows what he's doing) we'll see how much these little pukes and their parents enjoy the big, wide, wonderful worlds of cyber-terrorism! You're WAY out of your league on this one, girls. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Yikes E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 maddog foaming at mouth quick get rabies booster o no, too late -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: MadDog� E-mail: Still dont know it!? Location: Jersey Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 All talk and no action. I must say Im disappointed in you righteous Boulder News hackers. 3 posts since my response and still no names or addresses. Remember, anything you can do, we can do. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Listen to the Lord you hopeless child abusers. PLEASE post my name and vital statistics. Make me happy. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Go! Go! Go! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 lovvvvve the cyber-porn spam idea been done lots before, but always fun and effective it won't land em in jail, but these little cunts will be soooo busy telling their story to the "men in black" that they won't have time to "PLA" with themselves, not to mention the BNF forget the names, although that'd be cool we need e-mail addresses and isp's who's got the info? who's got the balls? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: What an ass... E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Hey! Dosen't Mad Dog sound tough! A regular Terminator/ Rambo/ Dirty Harry! I've got $50 bucks (and I didn't have to get it from my parents, either) that says he's 15-17 years old, lots of pimples, weighs about 98 pounds , has never had a piece of ass in his life (unless you count the neigbors poodle) and his mother sucks cock down at the local truck stop to cover the monthly bill to his isp. Any takers? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: who wants to know E-mail: like i would tell you Location: uhhh nowhere Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 hey read the disclaimer on the page idiots -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Father Flannigan E-mail: Location: St. Agnes Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 I can confirm some of the information posted above about Mad Dog, that young lad from Seattle. He is 16, and used to be in the boys choir at St. Agnes. His mother is in counciling for her problem in the areas you describe, and is doing much better now. Please remember her in your prayers. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: God Murphy Learn To Spell E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Counseling not Counciling You stupid hag. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Helper E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 PLA people: RBCP-RedBoxChiliPepper - Founder of PLA - Real Name: Bill Cook Lives: Celina, Ohio Age: 24 Married, one child, Emily email: bac@brightnet (or close to that) Tannest - PLA member Female Age 34 Lives: Bend, Oregon Real Name: Samantha Kay Dahl Stack Email: Samantha@bendnet.com (has many more) Logicbox - PLA Age 17 Lives, Sunnyvale, California Real Name: Ryan Scott Attends: Fremont H.S. Most recent email: logic@darksyde.geekbox.net (has many emails) Has scads of websites but has taken all info down thats whats been posted about them in the last 3-4 weeks. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Doesn't look too Bad to me E-mail: Looks like Location: it's eating it's own crap Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 _,) _..._.-;-' .-' `( / ; \ ;.' ;` ,; ; .'' ``. ( \ ; / x_ _x\ ; )\ \/|` '|\/;; (;/ ((; \_/ (() " -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Anonymous Editor E-mail: editor@goaway.pla Location: The States Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Just to correct some misinformation, his name is _NOT_ Bill Cook. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: POST THAT INFO! E-mail: TAKE BACK THE FORUM! Location: IGNORE THE DOUCHEBAGS! Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Oh right... I forgot... We뭨e not SUPPOSED to post personal information about forum participants. Yes, and the Boulder News seems to be SOOO viginant in enforcing it뭩 policies, including the ones you had to agree to to get on... the ones that prohibit just about everything these kids have done here! POST THAT INFO! Lets just fight fire with fire and get this handled once and for all. By the time the Boulder News gets around to taking it off, it뭠l be in the hands of those who can make use of it. Forget the rules.... they did! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: John Z E-mail: hey Maddog Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Jeez, It's been a forty-five minutes since since I started my thread, and none of my 5 lines have rang even ONCE! I just used my credit card to order a pizza, and it worked fine... as does my internet service! Losing your touch, Master Hacker? Phreaking the wrong John Z? Come on... CALL me already!!! Have your MOTHER call me! I so miss the way the hair on her back used to tickle my chest when I fucked her up the ass! What a stupid little teenage asswipe. Got your peorid yet? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: boulderman E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 way to go maddog. nobody cares who you are, but thanks to you, rbcp, logicbox, and tannest have been terrorized. this war was over until you new geeks showed up. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Stan E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 I heard rbcp was Bradley Allen Carter of Celina Ohio. bac@bright.net [Oooooo, and they're getting closer yet... ] -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Helper from Zontar E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Thanks for the Info... just what I was looking for! Can anybody fill in anymore of the blanks. If you check out the PLA websight, you'll see that it is more than a bunch of teenagers spamming forums. They boast of operating an ongoing criminal conspiracy against Mervyn's and Sears ... and leave their scrawny little butts wide open for MAJOR legal trouble. Anyone have anything else on em? Speak NOW! Lets work together and cut out this cancer once and for all. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Oh Please! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 MadDog has a webtv account. Enough said. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: I'm New Too E-mail: Location: Pittsburgh Pa. Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Can somebody tell me just what started this war? I really enjoy following the Jon-Benet discussion, but this other stuff is just so stupid. Is it simply bored teenagers, (the above poster" was right, their "hacking" shows so particular expertise at all) or did somebody do something to somebody else to start this? I gess I could just go back and read the archives and figure it all out, but a quick couple of line from somebody who knows would be great. Thanks -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To: I'm new Too E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 There is no hacking involved here, other than the fact that these children call themselves hackers. All they do is spam this forum with thousands of ignorant threads and posts. They have been doing it almost since the day this forum was created. The ONLY reason they get away with it is the BNF has no real webmaster. Their cgi scripting is open to anyone on the internet, which is stupid. But they don't know how to fix it, so the PAL kids and rbcp wannabes keep exploiting this problem and the posters have no choice but to take matters into their own hands to stop it. Every time the war stops, some newbie rbcp wannabe finds the PLA propaganda about this forum and comes over to strut his stuff. Of course, we just take it out on rbcp, LogicBox, and Tannest, since they started the whole mess. Logic in particular for writing that brilliant piece in the PAL zine. So you newbies keep spamming and making your badass threats. It's nothing we haven't seen a hundred times before. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: *(* E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 I think RBCP is actually Ryan Scott under his other accounts just trying to throw you off -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Just in Case E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Save this thread. (I did) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: KEWL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 I copied the jpg of old ryan boy and I am going to blow it up and use it for dart practice. Thanks! He does need some antibiotics, doesn't he! Zit City. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective O E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 MadDog - rbcp wannabe Name: Norman Vaniski Lives: 456 WASHINGTON AVE BELLEVILLE, NJ Phone: 201-844-9439 Last Known Email: JRZYPLYR69@webtv.net Misc: tracer - (5qjl4b$74b$1@newsd-4.alma.webtv.net) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Wow! Wow! Wow! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Great info! Let's get moving! SOMEBODY knows where they live, what route they take to work, where their PARENTS work, Ect! Hey, I'm just adopting the "Hacker Ethics" I've learned here from the PLA. Destroy something just because it pisses you off... hell, destroy it even if it DOSEN'T piss you off, if it seems like a kewl idea! If indeed their website makes specific reference to shoplifting at Mervyn's and contains inside info that only somebody who's actually done it would know... they're nailed! Who's got the URL? Lets flood the store with E-mail's of the 'zine articles that are so kind (stupid) to share this info. Wreck a few of these precious little lives and the rest of 'em will jump ship like the drowning, pathetic little rats that they are. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: More Info E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Tannest IS a woman Real Name - Samantha Kay Dahl Stack -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Ryan Scott: E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 Just saw your picture. Here's some advice: KILL YOURSELF NOW! DON"T DELAY! Teen suicide rates are at an all-time high, so why buck the trend? DON'T RESIST THE TEMPTATION! You KNOW the truth every time you look into a mirror, don't you? In your heart you know that you'll NEVER get laid, NEVER get a girlfriend and NEVER get a date to the senior prom! Why stick around and face all that heartache ahead? Maybe fate will deal you a kinder hand next time around. A book suggestion: "FINAL EXIT" by Derek Humphrey. It's, ah... about these real kewl hackerz and stuff, ok? Whoever the two mutants who bumped uglies to create such a grotesque half-boy, half-zit... TAKE THEM OUT TOO! Be A hero! Get your name in the newspaper (a REAL one, not just a net-'zine) Nip this in the bud... stop the Scott gene-pool at the source! Jeez, I'm not kidding about this. As ugly as you might suspect you are, TRIPLE IT! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Too Bad about Ryan Scott! E-mail: HE HAS VIOLATED the FHS agreement! Location: Mr. Tuana CAN'T be very happy. Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 Not to worry, folks. Ryan Scott slit his own throat when he violated the Freemont High School Internet agreement. (See www.fhs.fuhsd.org) His school has 30 workstations and guess what? He had ACCESS to ALL of them. What's next for him? Maybe federal prison when all of the evidence regarding his crimes on the Internet are revealed. What a pity! ---------------------------------------------------- PLA personal info as requested. Return to the Ramsey forum index page ----------------------------------------------------- Posted by: MadDog� E-mail: You tough hacks should know that already! Location: Jersey Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 So you want to know more about me? Well, Im 6', 190lbs, short brown hair, blue eyes and a babyface that belies my age of 23. I work full time as a retail sales manager at a large electronics company. I love fat chicks, asian babes, tall bitches, short mommas, well, actually, most women. I am a single parent. I live on my own and have for 7 years. I pay taxes and enjoy aggravating close-minded fools and exercising my right to free speech. What else, hmmm......I like big cars......occasional phreaking and cranking, video games, women, titty bars. I graduated in NJ in 1991, I live in Washington state right now. My phone number is 206-435-6512 and my real name is Rich Hertz but I go by Dick. I live at 4834 Guide Meridian in Sumas Wa. ------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: John Z E-mail: to MadDog Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Wow! A retail sales manager at a large electronics company, huh? Translated: A kid at Radio Shack making 50 cents above minimun who has keys to the place. I'm so impressed! Next you'll be telling me all about your "really neat" '72 Maverick! Perhaps the PLA websight will appreciate my article on how an easily-concealed tube of super glue when strategically squirted into display TV's VCR's and Camcorders can actually get a Store Manager fired! Where in the Seattle area is your Electronics store so we may do our shopping? Thanks SO much for completing our "Meet the Gay Hackers" survey! Now all we need is the name of your ISP and your E-mail address so we can send you some exciting J-pegs of your mother going down on various articles of roadkill throughout the great Pacific Northwest! We'll be in touch....... LOSER! ---------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Forum Member E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 And tell me, Mr. Hertz/Maddog...WHY I am supposed to give a frog's fat ass who you are? I don't think so. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: LOL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 You say you like women. I don't think so. Any body who calls women babes, bitches, chicks and mommas don't sound like a woman loving kind of guy. Then liking titty bars pretty much wraps that opinion up in a bow. uhm uhm bet those women like you. Yum Yum. Wonder why you live alone???? Your baby face seems to match your maturity level. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Zontar E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Hi! Mad Dog got his adloscent acne in an uproar a few threads down, and made the following threat in response to my post: "If you post here in response to this and ask me to, I will call you. I promise I wont phreak on you. I'll give you my number to call too. Just let me know tough guy." He was invited to call me and didn't. What an ass. Let us make the following assumptions: * MadDog is a phoney * MadDog has NO hacking/phreaking abilities * MadDog is unable to respond to this since his mother tucked him forty-five minutes ago after she got off her knees and came home from the truckstop * MadDog's main computer skill seems to be the ability to insert one in his well-stretched, jism-filled anus. Have a Nice Day! ------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective O E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 MadDog - rbcp wannabe Name: Norman Vaniski Lives: 456 WASHINGTON AVE BELLEVILLE, NJ Phone: 201-844-9439 Last Known Email: JRZYPLYR69@webtv.net Misc: tracer - (5qjl4b$74b$1@newsd-4.alma.webtv.net) ------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: tWiT E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Nice try MadDog... Washington State! hahahahahahaha You already told us you were from joisey, joik. --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Sad isn't it E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 when they put Jersey in the location and then tell you they live in Washington. But don't forget that he likes women! LOL -------------------------------------------------------- PLA info Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Phantom Operator E-mail: phanop@hotmail.com Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 hey MadDog, nice to see you. i wouldn't wait very long for them to get your info. i've been posting for nights now and they don't even know my name. thats pathetic. i think detective X is having a hangover or something. st00pid drunk-ass bitch. anyway, whoever said something about "real" hacking, just keep it up. hehe. thats all i'll say for now about that. the more you BNF lamers strut around the stupider you look. /me bitch slaps all of you Phantom Operator -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Um E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 You guys are really obsessed with PLA now. At least your laying off that poor dead abused child. It's really sad that all of you are too stupid to see the simplest way to end this. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective O E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 MadDog - rbcp wannabe Name: Norman Vaniski Lives: 456 WASHINGTON AVE BELLEVILLE, NJ Phone: 201-844-9439 Last Known Email: JRZYPLYR69@webtv.net Misc: tracer - (5qjl4b$74b$1@newsd-4.alma.webtv.net) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Phantom Operator E-mail: phanop@hotmail.com Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 very good, you know a little about MadDog. i'm still waiting... Phantom Operator -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Duh E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Like maybe you're so disgustingly obnoxious nobody cares who you are. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective O E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Phantom Operator; Who are you? Who cares? Go read some PAL zines and come back when you grow pubes. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To: Phantom Operator E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 You sound like one of those little zit-ridden creeps who jack off to pictures of Tannest and wipe jism off your keyboard. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Phantom Operator E-mail: phanop@hotmail.com Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 )) RETARD QUOTE BLOCK BEGIN Phantom Operator; Who are you? Who cares? Go read some PAL zines and come back when you grow pubes. )) RETARD QUOTE BLOCK END who am i? that is for you and your leet skillz to find out. who cares? you will. hehe. i don't know if you are Det. X, but if you are, I just want to tell you how lame you are. You try to act bad by posting peoples info (because you already know them somehow), but when someone new like me shows up, you don't have a damn idea of what to do. y0u suck PhantomOperator -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Info on Phantom Operator E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 Age: 14 School: St Anne's Middle School Name: Gerald FitzPatrick (The converse is also true) Interests: Priests, Broadway Musicals, Antiques Favorite TV Show: The Ru Paul Show Favorite School Subject: Catechism Biggest Worry: Getting a woody during shower after gym class Favorite Person: Greg Lougainis, Father Peter Most Hated Person: Bullys who beat him up everday Last Book Read: Biography of Judy Garland -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Phantom Operator E-mail: phanop@hotmail.com Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 boy is that original and funny. i'm in high school dickhead, and i'm certainly not catholic!!!! Phantom Operator -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Info on Danny E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 Age: 13 IQ: 13 Years spent in elementry school: 13 Most dollars he will ever earn in an hour: 13 Hours he has spent on the BNF today: 13 Number of brothers and sisters: 13 Number of pustular zits currently on his face: 13 Number of cartoons he watched today: 13 Number of Mountain Dews he drank today: 13 -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Go Away E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 Jerry, baby. Are you happy now? Want us to report you to the nuns? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective Y E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 A little more PLA stuff: BlueBoy Info http://members.tripod.com/~TheBlueBoy/pland002.htm http://members.tripod.com/~TheBlueBoy/ Cavalier Public High School. in North Dakota -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Sister Angelica E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 Gerald likes it when the priests smack him around. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Who I Am E-mail: By Location: Phantom Operator Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 Phantom Operato Bio: Name: Phil Pimplepopper Age : teeny bopper Favorite Pasttime: Phreaking!!!! Other Favorites: Hacking old ladies!!!! Other Favorites: Cussing and swearing!!!! Other Favorites: Acting real butch My bathroom cabinet is full of: OXY 5 & Clearasil My hair is: KEWL My parents: ignore me Worst habit : Coming on too strong Mentality: what? Behind my back people say: GEEK! My favorite possession: my plastic pen protector My happiest day: the day I found BNF! What makes me smile: Huh?? I would be lost without: my glasses w cokebottle lens When I laugh: I snort Career Goals: Huh?? Girlfriend's name: Huh?? My best report card: Huh??? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: LogicBox E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 I wish you guys would quit making fun of me. I wanted to spike my hair and get some piercings, but my mother wouldn't let me. That's why I have that regular boys haircut in my highschool picture. -------------------------------------------------------- Open Letter To Ryan "LOGICBOX" Scott Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Grossed out E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 You guys HAVE to check out this picture if you haven뭪 seen it yet: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/4432/ryan.jpg This is/was Logic Box (at least as was identified by his next of kin.) realizing how sensative adloscent feelings can be... I뭠l try to be delicate in my comments to Mr. Box. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: down with PLA E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 and don't forget... that print was probably selected from a dozen or so proofs... meaning that as ugly as it is... is was the best of the bunch! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: LOL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 ROFLAMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: FLOL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 So this is the little puke that has been terrorizing this forum since February? Surely we can take care of this pimple on the ass of mankind. I am ready to assist in any way I can, and with the various resources at my disposal to bring this little scumbag and his PLA-mates down. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Gee E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 It sure got quiet. Did all the teenies have to go to bed????? Gee its only 10:30 on the west coast. Maybe they are all on there new irc channel #bigbeefbueno talking about how to get back at us. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: PLA'ers at the bottom of the Gene Pool E-mail: NOT Available Location: USA Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 It's really amazing that high school students could be SO STUPID as to vandalize this forum. Didn't they realize that due to the subject title that at LEAST SOME of the posters and lurkers would be law enforcement officers, state and federal? Well, after everything is said and done, there will be indictments against the "PLA" members. Don't be misled by their constant disclaimer that the "PLA" is just an e-zine. It is an ongoing criminal enterprise and they were just wonderful in documenting their various crimes. Too bad that the taxpayers will have to foot the bill for their incarceration, but in the long run at least they won't be on the streets or at their computer terminals causing the havoc that they just love to indulge in. They think that crime pays? Maybe their parents can afford good legal counsel. They will need it when the hammer finally falls here! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Heard your shit before E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 And you've heard mine. Frankly, it bores me. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: WHAT..do you get E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 What do you get if you breed a LogicBox with a Tannest? A friggin freak. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Wow! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 I think I would advise artificial means of breeding in the above breeding scenario. Wretched thought. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Law Enforcement Person E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 I AGREE 100% RBCP is still wanted in Wood River Illinois for stealing $4,000+ from a 7-11. Plus they take trips on stolen credit card numbers and ring up oodles of LD on other peoples telephone bills. Its pure and simple theft. And they deserve what they get. Nobody would even have known about them if they hadn't come bothering us. They brought it ALL on themself. -------------------------------------------------------- PLA; we can stay up later than you Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective tWiT E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 Aw, come on MadDog, don't go away mad. -------------------------------------------------------- LogicBox is Editor-In-Chief Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective 45 E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 I see our innocent little Ryan Scott is now Editor -In-Chief of the new PLA zine "System Failure". Check it out at this url: http://www.penguinpalace.com/sysfail/ A few copy/pastes from the webpage: Group Inpho=- The Editorial Staff Logic Box (Editor-in-Chief) Kenshiro Cochrane (News Editor) Darkcactus (Public Relations) Pinguino (Publisher) -=How to Contact Us=- System Failure Editorial Staff: system.failure@usa.net Logic Box: logic@linux.slackware.org Kenshiro Cochrane: kcochran@peak.org Darkcactus: darkcactus@hotmail.com Pinguino: pinguino@connectnet.com We can also usually be found on IRC. We all frequent #peng on EFnet, so come by and drop us a line, we're usually bored out of our minds anyway. � Copyright 1997 by Penguin Palace http://www.penguinpalace.com/sysfail/ -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Another Detective Wannabe E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 I thought you might enjoy LogicBox's PLA family album. http://www.smu.edu/~balfraih/defcon/ I see that the url is from SMU in Dallas. Do we have any Texans that want to run with this one? -------------------------------------------------------- _P_L_A_ Alert Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Henry Morgan E-mail: Location: NY Posted on: Thursday September 18, 1997 1. May be I've missed some posts, but it had to be advertized that all treads that contain PLA in header will be misteriously disappearing (rught into archive). Some of them wasn't bad at all. Anyway it's not going to solve the problem on a permanent basis. 2. It's now clear that some smart ass is working on our server, presumably, for the good of regulars. I'd like to point, though, that this person is right in a position to (a) find out user IPs (it's not personal data yet, but the first step to it) and (b) block some posts he/she would decide inappropriate. Best regards. -------------------------------------------------------- I WANT LOGIC AND HIS PLA_MATES,& I WILL GET THEM Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Well Heeled Old Lady E-mail: Location: wealth Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 I am one of those old ladies that Logic Box likes to think he frightens. Well this old lady does not get frightened. Furthermore, this old lady has lots of money to spend, and a few friends in low places that will find these little bastards and their Queen Cyberslut Samantha. I always get what I want! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Yes! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 You go grandma, go! Someone has finally answered the call for help. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Hatless E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 Great!!!! Just tell me how I can help. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Phantom Operator E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 I know where you can find them...how much is it worth to you grandma? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: crazy E-mail: old Location: lady?? Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 Well, when you GET him, what are you going to do with him, adopt? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Two for One E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 Hey rich lady, can we talk you into finding and exposing jameson also? Two for One maybe? It is usually cheaper with volume discounts, and maybe even your friends in low places will enjoy adding jameson to their agenda once they find out what a scumbag she is. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ? E-mail: ? Location: ??? Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 Why do you or anybody, well heeled old lady included, think you have any say so about who can post, or what they can post here? If you want to control a forum, get your own. This one belongs to the Boulder Camera and they are free to run it as they please. They , the owners, have said this is an OPEN, unmoderated forum. Make your own website, require a password and registration and control it to your hearts desire. Until you do, remember this is a PUBLIC forum so quit yer bitching or leave. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: TO: ? E-mail: Figures that you are a PLA'e Location: Don't Take your usual drugs! Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 Well, "?" we can see that YOU have nothing to offer regarding thoughts and comments regarding the death of Jon Benet Ramsey. Incidentally, your LAME "hat" of "?" has been overused here and has little import regarding merit of opinion. Post away "?" but, don't expect ANYONE here to take you seriously. Poor Samantha. Not even the best physicians can save women who sleep around for years acquiring incurable STD's. Even something worse. It's called CONTAGION. Sam has to do that, she can't help herself. Poor "sweetheart." LOL! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Old Lady E-mail: Location: Another Old Lady Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 ?'s post above is probably on target. $$$ is worthless here. I don't think you're scaring anybody. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: also E-mail: old Location: lady Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 Not a rich one however. Earned everything I have all by myself. *Well heeled* must be spending someone elses money to waste it on something so friviolous. No one that I would associate with is that interested in causing harm to a kid . -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Bated, not baited E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 Baited means you have a worm in your mouth. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: so what.. E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 if the rich old lady had bucks and wants to make life miserable for these assholes...i say go for it granny. At least we know granny has some attitude! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Question Mark Person E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 Yes, this is an open forum and I will bitch all I want. And no, I will not leave. It is my right to bitch if I want to. You should take the time to read what you posted you nitwit. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: I like to complain so much E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 Give me a new topic to complain about, PLA is getting boring. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To: I Like To Complain So Much E-mail: sorry Location: Posted on: Friday September 19, 1997 We could always always complain about that idiotic jameson..... -------------------------------------------------------- to our trashmaster-opinion of you Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ^ E-mail: ^ Location: ^ Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 You are a jealous, ugly old lady with no friends and nothing to do. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: dreamer E-mail: Location: ohio Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Would you say these same words that you are PROUDLY posting here...in front of your mother, your children, and your best friends...? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Hey Slime Ball E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I know who you are. LOL You don't play this game at Dan's place. Your problem is you never have anything to say, and people just jump over you, much like they jump over the dumb, trash threads to post. STOP THE NONSENSE. (Recognize the shouting technique?) You low life slime ball. This isn't the PLA, or teenagers, this is a poster who comes into the various forums, likes to use caps., and loves to flame anyone that ignores or disagrees with her. She's here a lot folks, you know who she is, she can't change her stlye long enough not to be recognized. Any guesses on who Ms.Garbage mouth is? I'll go first. READER/ LOL/ DIANNE E -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jameson 趾� E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I want to apologize for my name being part of this vulgar attack. I had nothing to do with any of these threads. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: I agree E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I think it's READER, a poster who has always proven to be very unbalanced & just plain NUTS!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: !!! AGREE !!! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 It's Dianne E. She started the shohani character when she was throughly flamed while impersonating a former poster, BEAR the cop from NYC. The entire forum saw right through her act, and she also used the "more" hat for a long time and that was also pointed out by many, many members of the forum. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: I Haven't Been Here E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Long enough to recognize anyone's style of writing, but it does seem to me to be the work of some adolescent who has just learned those words and wants to use them somewhere. Many kids are very good with computers and he/she has somehow rigged up an automatic posting of this obscene thread from some other, probably unrelated, site. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about computers to track this down. I sure wish the Boulder News would do something about it, though, and ban him/her from this forum. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Then I Suggest... E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 You start in January in the archives. Read Dianne E and Dminor's posts. Watch how she exposed and harrassed jameson for weeks. This isn't the work of any teenager and you are ignorant to say that. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: This Ain't the Work of a Teen... E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 This is READER=LOL=Diane E, and they've been pulling this crap for months at varying degrees. What they do, is while we're all posting on one thread, they busy themselves posting Titles right here in this forum. This old gal is NUTS, and the problem is, she isn't smart enough to change her style. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know who's posting there gross threads. She'll change her hat and come in this forum to post, but she CAN'T CHANGE her STYLE, its ingrained in her narrow little mind. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: It is E-mail: not Jameson Location: It is Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 READER-- I do admit to feeling sorry for this person, but enough is enough don't you think? I post at Dan's forum using a name and email. I have never had a problem there. It is the best. This used to be fantastic. There has been more than one trasher, none of whom are PLA kids, although we did have one who tried very hard to lay blame there. Don't think it worked with most of us. I can tough it out. We know who you are. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: You're Right E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Her main MO is to post as several posters all conversing amongst themselves. Just watch, Ski Hat should be showing up soon to defend Dianne and then Dianne will come on and thank Ski Hat. The Marcie character will show up exclaiming how she hasn't been here for weeks etc... and will be leaving. Marcie has "left" the forum half a dozen times returning only to brag about her supposed famous lesbian lover. The the most vile of her hats, shohani, will come on ranting and raving about how Patsy and the BNF have locked her out of the forum again. The whole thing is sickening. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: I don't think E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Reader is capable of posting a message without a minimum of three typos! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Marcie E-mail: Location: Texas Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 It is certainly not my goal for the day to argue with such angry, ugly people....and I really wonder what it is that you are so angry about. It can't really be my posts... Anyone who has really been hanging out here for a long time can tell the styles of different posts, and the anonymous (of course) person who is wildly gathering DianeE, poor READER, and myself into a big bag & claiming we are all the same....well, whatever. It has been my experience with READER that no one in the world can be READER except READER. I did have a wonderful time making an entire thread of Reader & her family members once. That was back in the good-old-days, when Fra & Jay and everyone was here. As a matter of fact, the above anonymous poster probably thinks I am Fra & Jay also. Hey, maybe there's always only been ONE poster on this forum. Maybe it's me. Now, let's see...oh, yes, I was psycho-analyzing the above anonymous-but-very-angry poster. Lie down & tell me...are you angry because you aren't getting what you want in life? Because others get what you want? Because your life is meaningless? My recommendation for everyone is to begin volunteer work with someone who is hurting worse than you. That's what life's all about, folks. Taking care of someone more crippled than you are. Try it! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: no hat E-mail: again Location: . Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Could this be the same poster who was obsessd with making remarks about Patsy having fat knees and eating hotdogs? I don't remember if that poster used a hat or if they were notorious for "hat stealing" There is something so familiar about the style of this trasher. Can't put my finger on it yet. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Reality check E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 If your browser can veiw the source of a web page, and you care to, please take a look at http://www.phonelosers.org/wwwboard/wwwboard.htm Then ask youself again if the sickies of PLA are not responsible for this sad trashing. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Then I Suggest E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 If your " ignorant" response to my post suggesting that a teenager is responsible for this trash (and I still believe it to be a teenager) is an example of your usual post, i.e. rudeness when there is no reason to be rude, I can understand that some of the other posters might want to annoy you. You might do well to look into yourself and determine whether or not you have provoked this trashing of the forum. Further, aren't you being somewhat paranoid in accusing peole you do not know and will never meet of posting obscenity under different hats? In fact, I make it a point to never associate with rude people like you and will not be back to this forum. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Then I Suggest E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Forget it Marcie/DianeE/LOL/READER Your little essay doesn't work anymore. NOT a teenager, and unless the mess is part of the PLA, NOT PLA. Its just little old you, and we have you pegged. Just waiting for you to show up as your several hats, and start posting to yourself on the Threads...which only means, that you've been here all morning, noted this reponse, and can't stand not making an appearance. You have already showed yourself, and the verdict is in. Guilty on all counts. Go look at the regular numbered threads folks, and you'll see these hats starting to crop up all over the place. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to Reality Check E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I agree with you, but many of the posters either cannot believe that these kids are doing the trashing, or they feel sorry for them. I think many of our regular posters do need to do a reality check and visit the site you posted. But sadly, the will not do that...instead they will point fingers at each other. Good try, but they are living in a sick fantasy land and would not know reality if it bit them in the a#@. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Houston E-mail: 12:24pm cdt Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 To: I Haven't Been Here...Please, don't leave. We are all here for JonBenet. Just try to look beyond this turbulence. It will pass. To Marcie...I see what you mean. I, for one, miss your contributions to this forum. We are not the same without you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Go There Now!!! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 http://www.phonelosers.org/wwwboard/wwwboard.htm Leave them a little piece of your mind, it will be the closest thing they ever get to having one. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: NMH E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Whether you believe it or not is immaterial, the 'Reality Check' poster above is correct. Their web chat board is a facsimile of this forum titled 'Daily Loser News' and has the Daily Camera banner GIF image. The button(s) that generate the spam threads here is there. They even brag about the damage done here on their discussion page. That's only one part of the story. There are other parts, some of which you can see just be reading the posts above. If the PLA isn't trashing the board, we have 'regular' posters that are happy to step in. The DianneE, READER, Marcie posts are one instance. A pathetic example set by 'older' people for the 'younger' people. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To NMH E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Had a little trouble following your post. Don't you mean the "To DianneE, READER Marcie posts" as examples of regular posters capable of trashing the threads? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: CK E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 The PLA web central board 'Ramsey Forum' doesn't create the spam threads here. It is a 'URL Hot Link' that brings anyone clicking on that button on their web board directly to the Daily Camera JBR discussion forum. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: no hat E-mail: again Location: and again Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I did go to this URL:http://www.phonelosers.org/wwwboard/wwwboard.htm It is a design ripoff of this forum alright. I clicked on their *Ramsey Forum* icon and it brought me right back here. It did not make a thread here. Is this the same board they had with a new format or a different one altogether? Anybody know? I ppersonally will not rise to the bait if that is what it is. I also checked the "veiw " option and found no sinister threads or links. A clean link to this forum is all I saw. I am not an expert so do not know what I was supposed to find but if anybody takes the bait they are crazier than TRASHER. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: no hat E-mail: ever on Location: this forum Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I went to the PLA board and checked out the whole thing. They have lost interest. Here is all I found about this board: Posted by Rabid on September 19, 1997 at 02:02:08: In Reply to: The BNF / PLA war is over posted by 31373 on September 19, 1997 at 01:41:47: : Get over it. : It was fun while it lasted, but it's a boring : waste of time now. cool, now go get a life put your useful talents into solving a murder if that's too boring,go check out www.boudoir.com more suitable for your hormone problem :) PEACE Then I scrolled on down and found someone puporting to be from here threatening them with total destruction. Could that person, and I do have one in mind, get their jollies by doing this and trying to stir up something between the kids ,who are only interested in phone tricks? I noticed our trasher is no longer content with just this one. She has gone on to bigger things. Wow! I'm so impressed. Hang in there everybody. All three of her braincells are sure to go up in smoke pretty soon from trying to spell) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Real Teacher E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I am totally against censorship of ideas and opinions, even those which are offensive, but this does not come under the realm of ideas or opinions. It is a juvenile expression (no matter what the age of the poster) and constitutes a form of malicious harrassment. The Boulder News should block posts that in no way contribute to the forum or express any type of opinion and which are totally repetitive, a means to disable and destroy the forum. The poster/posters who do this are interfering with free speech and freedom of thought. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To RT E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 So what is your take on why BN doesn't make even a perfunctory attempt to regulate these threads? Surely the must be aware of what's going on. Is it that they just don't care, it's not a priority, they don't have the manpower, the $, time, interest, what? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: to RT E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 All of the above. I'm serious, check it out for yourself. The board will be taken down eventually if the obscenities persist. -------------------------------------------------------- TV ALERT!!!!! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Can't Even Believe It!!! e-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 The PLA was mentioned on the television show, THE NET today. They said they were the premiere phreaking zine on the Internet and one of the most popular zines of any type. They also said that their web site was the most popular phreaking page on the Internet. What is this world coming too? http://www.phonelosers.org/wwwboard/wwwboard.htm That is their Bulletin Board, go there and tell them what you think of them. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: They E-mail: do Location: love Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 the attention. Be careful if you go to that site. That is where the spam J/P threads originate. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Who cares E-mail: about Location: them? Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I could care less about them and I certainly wouldn't waste a second of my time going to their stupid site. It will be taken down soon enough. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: CK E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 That web board IS NOT the one that generates the Jameson/PLA or the other offensive thread. The buttons function as a URL 'Hot Link' that brings you to this forum. It does serve to bring the forum to the attention of the all the little phreakerss that access the PLA central board. FWIW -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: on tv E-mail: on tv Location: on tv Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 THey were on TV? What network is The Net on? This is insane. Was the BNF mentioned as well? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: right on E-mail: CK Location: . Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 The poster above is so right. OUR forum trasher would love for us to think so. That way OUR poster could get two boards trashed for the price of one. THIS is TRASHING. anyone can do that, it has nothing to do with telephones. This stuff we're getting is a mental case and I'm sure , female at that. Probably some blue haired old lady all alone. -------------------------------------------------------- BOULDER NEWS, PLEASE POST IP'S Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: This E-mail: is Location: no Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 longer a viable forum. Please find a way to make this a secure site for all of us that have enjoyed your format, and have posted here for these many months. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: here's E-mail: our Location: little Miss Smiley Face's reply......... Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 http://www.bouldernews.com/cgi-bin/ viewthread.cgi?Ramsey+9709210203 Posted by: hi E-mail: hi Location: hi Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I'll give you guys a clue - the only way BNF could possibly block out posts coming from us would be to block out ANYBODY from posting. It's that simple. Do you realize we're not even using BNF's CGI anymore? Nope, I've copied their CGI and installed it on my own computer with a freeware web server and I've removed the one-post-per-hour restriction. They can't block this unless they block you all. I do feel that I've accomplished a mission, though. Nobody is talking about dead mollested girls anymore. All you sickos care about now is this PLA. heh heh heh. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Make a move E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 The one post an hour isn't helping the situation. Obviously the pathetic soul that is trashing the forum is able to add and delete anytime he/she wants. It's now only making it harder for the rest of us. Don't let your forum be held hostage by this imbecile. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Posting IPs wouldn't help E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 These guys know how to change theirs and spoof IPs. It would just cause more problems. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: No IPs , please E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Posting IPs did little good last time. Why do you think they will help now? Some people have IPs that do not change at all across sessions. Posting their IPs opens the door to the creeps who get thrills from hurting others. I am not one of the people who have created trouble here or flamed others anonymously, and I am not a privacy nut. I just don't want crazies to have information that would allow them to easily create trouble for posters that is much more serious than the trouble we now have in this forum. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Post the IP'S. E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Please stop giving these wet-nosed geeks any credence. Someone made a thread using this ridiculous PLA nonsense. Ignore them, and keep e-mailing Boulder News. Their day will come. It always does to people like this. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: you E-mail: know Location: what Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I think? Well, I was just thinking this is a possibility but highly unlikely. My mind rants sometimes. But what if these people fabricated the whole PLA web page to make the others look bad? Like the people who's info we're posting. Are those really the people doing it or is that just what the real spammer wants you to think? This PLA page has been parodying everything we do - just go look at their web board cause it looks exactly like this one. Obviously they can write whatever they want on that page. Maybe they changed a bunch of names around or added articles into their old issues to get back at some kid in a California high school. Like I said, it's really unlikely that I'm correct. I'm just wondering if we really have the right people here. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: dreamer E-mail: Location: ohio Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 We have a right to privacy for our own protection. Be careful about volunteering to give up your rights. A better method would use software that would scan a post for certain offensive keywords, if found poster would receive a message, sorry your post contains material that is deemed to be offensive and your post has been cancelled. Please try again. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To dreamer E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 OK, I'll go along with that. Anything to bring the forum back. Like I said, this stupid PLA thing is a joke. No one reads their crap. I'm telling you, they're wet-nosed little geek/s. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: .. E-mail: .. Location: .. Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 To the aboce poster: That wouldn't work. They would realize this in a day and simply change their posts to contain "non-offensive" key words. I think the spammer is right. The only way to get rid of him is to get rid of us. That or put him in jail. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to dreamer E-mail: well Location: actually Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Alot of people read their crap. I'm not trying to stick up for them, but their pages get a LOT of hits and they have support sites all over the world. Just because WE don't like them doesn't mean anyone else does. Jesus, they were on television this morning. That wasn't a joke, I went to "the web"'s site and looked at todays show. It's all about internet stalking and protecting yourself from the weirdos on the net. Pitty I missed the show. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Wrong E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Their web page receives more hits than 95% of the pages on the Net today. They were written up in both The Net magazine and The Web Magazine for October. Today they were talked about on the syndicated TV show THE WEB. They are a group of hundreds, if not thousands. Unfortunately, they are read and they are growing in influence and number. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: dreamer E-mail: Location: ohio Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 If they could not post these "offensive" words that appear in each thread and title, a lot of wind would be taken out of their sails. I agree arrest is better but really if there is no arrest for the murder of JonBenet, who would arrest a forum hacker. How important could that be in the scheme of things? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: maybe E-mail: - Location: - Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 They'll save John Ramsey's cell for this guy. We can only hope. Another point on the "key word" idea - they claim they've written their own cgi to post from here. If that's true then probably nothing can be done to fix this. Maybe we should just quit discussing JBR and go find a new hobby. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: A Joke! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Ya, they're getting hits out of some people's weird curiosity. Big deal, they were on TV, so are one-legged transvestites, and a plethera of jerks and freaks. They are nothing but an annoyance. They're a flash in the pan, or maybe it 's just recreation time at Attica. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 ? "Maybe we should just quit discussing JBR and go find a new hobby." If this is just a hobby to you, then you should leave and find a new one. This isn't a game. This child died a violent death. I won't be silenced like she was. I will post here until the arrest is made. -------------------------------------------------------- Thrasher Speaks Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Startled E-mail: Location: The Archives posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Pulled moments ago from archives 9/21/97 I'll give you guys a clue - the only way BNF could possibly block out posts coming from us would be to block out ANYBODY from posting. It's that simple. Do you realize we're not even using BNF's CGI anymore? Nope, I've copied their CGI and installed it on my own computer with a freeware web server and I've removed the one-post-per-hour restriction. They can't block this unless they block you all. I do feel that I've accomplished a mission, though. Nobody is talking about dead mollested girls anymore. All you sickos care about now is this PLA. heh heh heh. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Thrasher E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Why are you doing this? And why are you targeting us? There are a lot of people still talking about this case. What has gotten you so angry? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Psyche E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Manic Depressive that is self medicating? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jkl E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 To: To Thrasher This is the way s/he gets a feeling of power. A cyberworld version of rape. Don't expect any more logical reason than a real rapist would give. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Thrasher E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I'll ask again. Why? Do you even know why? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Again, E-mail: To T. Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 You are obviously very bright and computer savvy. Is this just a game with you? An answer to boredom? Just something to do and then sit back and reap the entertainment value? A way to string people along? Is there some satisfaction in knowing it is you behind all this? Please, share. Or is it OK to let everybody else answer for you? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Guess you are E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 a coward. Don't like to converse with others, huh? Not a people person? To bad, when we are gone, so are you. -------------------------------------------------------- Message to Trasher Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Not Now E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 What in the world makes you think this would be something you should do? I don't care how old you are, you are acting like a little child who is tearing something up & getting away with it. It doesn't make any difference what your motive is, you have no right to destroy something. Remember when your parents, teachers, etc. told you not to tear things up? They were trying to teach you to be a member of society who makes the world a good place. Instead, you have chosen to spit on the memory of all those who tried to train you right. You have chosen to make all their efforts worth nothing. If your parents are dead, I pray that they can't see what you are doing right now. You know in your hardened heart that what you are doing is WRONG. You are hurting a lot of people by taking away something they enjoy. You are making yourself disgusting. I'm sure you will reply with something flippant or rude, but at least I have had my say, and I know there have been people in your life who worked very hard to keep you from being the way you are. What a shame for them. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to not now E-mail: - Location: - Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I'm curious - if his parents were dead then how the hell could they see him doing this? You weirdo -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Do you E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Know for sure that the deceased cant't see what we are doing? Maybe YOU dont know what you are talking about -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: Not Now E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Nice try, but the people you are addressing (both the kids and adults) don't have a clue. -------------------------------------------------------- Lets Solve idenity of TRASHER!! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jameson 趾� E-mail: jameson@abts.net Location: Hickory, North Carolina Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 IT IS UP TO US TO SOLVE THIS or shut down. why make the teasher a happy mental case? ... I'll help you out a little because I'm the trasher and I'm not ashamed to admit to who I am!! Go ahead and call me - I'll just cuss you out. Here is my full info: Brad Carter 1013 Kingswood Court Celina, Ohio, 45822 419-586-9536 You'll have to wait for me to get off the phone, though. I'm online right now trashing this fucking place. Buhahahaha! [This post was actually one of the spams and appeared on the forum about 1,000 times for an entire weekend. ] -------------------------------------------------------- is BRAD CARTER really doing this? Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: - E-mail: - Location: - Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 I'm just curious. I did try calling that number and it is busy so my guess is yes. Anyone know for sure, though? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Oh Geez E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 You think he only has one phone line? The guy is a phone phreak. He most likely has numerous phone lines to his house. How many people that spend any time on the Internet have only one phone line? It's unheard of, this is the 90's! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: - E-mail: - Location: - Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Yeah, but he works at 7-Eleven. Maybe he can't afford a second line. he has a kid, you know? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Psykopath E-mail: Location: Cult of Eternal Damnation Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Yeah, but his neighbors have phone lines. Figure it out. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: nope E-mail: - Location: - Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 He lives in the low-rent district and probably not that many people can afford phones there. He's probably get shot in that part of town, messing with telco cans like that. He's trapped in a bad life and there's no way out for him. I wonder if the Quikee Mart has promoted him to assistant manager yet. He'd probably actually be proud of that, seeing as he'd be up to $6.42 an hour. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: http://www.mit.edu/hacker/hacker.html E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 His phreak buddy went to prison. Another got all his computer equipment confiscated. You can read all about it. http://www.mit.edu/hacker/hacker.html -------------------------------------------------------- I Don't Understand Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: xxx E-mail: xxx Location: xxx Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Anyone who has so much time on their hands that they would want to do something like this. I guess they have no friends and their parents care nothing about them.--So Sad. -------------------------------------------------------- PHREAKERS STILL GO TO PRISON Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Don't kid yourself, kiddo E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Yes, Phreakers do go to prison and they do lose their computer equipment and it's not a fun experience, all those law suits... Harrassment here and phreaking there. You leave a trail a mile long. You know why? Because you love to brag. And braggarts always fall. You think you're immune? Well read this and learn. Those before you have gotten nailed, have gone to prison, are in prison, have lost their computer equipment, and are being tailed and watched, and will be the first to rat on you when in a pinch. You think the laws are getting easier for you? You think the prisons won't accept you because you aren't a felon? Think twice, buddy. You are exactly the type of criminal being targeted. http://www.mit.edu/hacker/hacker.html -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Getting Old E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 You have copied and pasted that 100 times now. You are no better than the spammers. -------------------------------------------------------- Lets Solve idenity of TRASHER!! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jameson 趾� E-mail: jameson@abts.net Location: Hickory, North Carolina Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 IT IS UP TO US TO SOLVE THIS or shut down. why make the teasher a happy mental case? ... I'll help you out a little because I'm the trasher and I'm not ashamed to admit to who I am!! Go ahead and call me - I'll just cuss you out. Here is my full info: Brad Carter 1013 Kingswood Court Celina, Ohio, 45822 419-586-9536 You'll have to wait for me to get off the phone, though. I'm online right now trashing this fucking place. Buhahahaha! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Hey ! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Lunatic, how are ya? You poor sick bastard, go pick another phone number you great enormous dunce. You will be caught very soon, you imbecile, we are surely closing in on you, too bad, cauze you won't plead family association then, it will be toooo late. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Right, you are going down thread trasher. E-mail: TOMORROW Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Finally, at last a break in this pockmarked faces trash. Helping out the Ramseys are you, of course, a curse on you enemy of justice. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: THAT ADDRESS IS VALID FOR RBCP E-mail: HE HAS DESTORYED THIS FORUM Location: along with Ryan Scott. Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 That address is "official" in that the PLA takes merchandise orders there. All they have to peddle are cheap t-shirts and hats sporting their lame logo. It's not a P.O. Box, it is the residence of RBCP and "Colleen Card." Take BACK this forum and do what you can to spread the information on this criminal cartel. Thank You for your attention to this message. -------------------------------------------------------- Revenge will be sweet Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: RE: Forum Trasher E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 21, 1997 Someone here has theorized that the current trashing is being committed by a disgruntled forum regular. All kinds of hats are being wildly thrown around, such is the current lynching mentality. Well, I just visited the archives where the times are shown. As many as three threads per minute are being generated. This is an impossible feat for one or two people. Obviously, guys, this is the work of the PLA or their henchmen, and they deserve to be caught. Thanks to whomever posted this URL today: www.mit.edu/hacker/hacker.html It is an extremely helpful backgrounder.I have saved pertinent threads to share with my UNIX expert later this week. Justice is near. -------------------------------------------------------- TO JAMESON Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: TIRED OF YOUR BULL!!! E-mail: GO AWAY!!!! Location: YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE!!! Posted on: Monday September 22, 1997 Posted by: TIRED OF YOUR BULL!!! E-mail: GO AWAY!!! Location: YOR WORST NIGHTMARE Posted on: Monday September 22, 1997 SHUT UP!!!! YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 2 DAYS NOW!! IF YOU DONT SHUT UP, SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN!! MAYBE ALL OF THE BNF NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN!! IF YOU DON'T GO AWAY, AND STAY AWAY, I WILL CALL THE PRESS, FBI, BNF, THE DAILY CAMERA, AND CYBERANGELS ON THE NET!!!! ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WILL STOP YOU COLD!!! YOU ARE IN TROUBLE, UP TO YOUR HEAD!! GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ?? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 22, 1997 don't yell at jameson. It is not the hat of jameson that is causing this trash. Jameson also goes to other places to discuss the JonBenet case and this does not happen. But then again, the creator/poster of this thread probably knows that but is jealous that the other places can not be trashed. I'm still lingering. Those jerks haven't chased me away...just lurking for more news. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Please pull up the good threads E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 22, 1997 and repost before they go away. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- jameson 趾� kills PLA! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jameson E-mail: jameson@excite.com Location: jameson Posted on: Monday September 22, 1997 it will happen. just you wait. [Another one of the more popular spam threads. This spam went on for well over a month and is still continuing as of this writing. ] -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: TIME E-mail: FOR THREAD TRASHER'S Location: COMEUPPANCE Posted on: Monday September 22, 1997 You're so clever, but no matter how you've covered your tracks, the investigation is underway& your toys will soon be taken from you. You will be exposed. Count on it. -------------------------------------------------------- GoodBye JonBenet Forum Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: LOL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 22, 1997 The PLA are going to anniliate this forum. They've been taunting you up until now, but from what I understand, you all are going down. LOL I'm glad. All you posters are, are a small group of gossipy old woman using this forum as a chat box. You don't give a damn about JonBenet, you rant, rave, spread rumor, bash her parents (prove their guity you old bitties), flame any intelligent poster with a different viewpoint on ths case. You all are a self centered, egotistical, unintelligent, low morality bunch of bitches. You are going to lose this little chat box, and its about time. This use to be a decent forum, with intelligent posters that agreed to disagree, talked pro and con on many facets of this case. NO MORE. Now its a small group of Ramsey Haters trying to encourage each other to stay in this forum, because you are such losers, you have no where else to go. Dan's place? Sure, but you won't get away with the crap your use to getting away with in here. Good for the PLA, or whoever, let them drag your party spot right over the edge. LOL -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: dreamer E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 22, 1997 You are full of sh..! Get a life. -------------------------------------------------------- Is thinking allowed? Return to the Opinion forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Jeff E-mail: Location: Boulder Posted on: Tuesday September 23, 1997 Dare I say that thought seems possible? While a completely empty site looks so forlorn and abandoned, it does beat the Gehenna out of seeing endless repetitions of Trasher's 2nd grade grammar accomplishments. So is Deva Dee or Queen Anne or Maid Maxie out there in Cyberland? Are there others of mind and thought who wonder about things beyond the lowest Chokra point and wish to share more than exercises in the scatalogical sciences? What is newsly and timely then? Marv Albert's celebrity extravaganza? The latest slow speed car chase? George Clooney's interesting exercise in exposing the 'papparazzi poseurs' of pompous posturing? (Refusing to photograph him at his movie premier. So these 'professionals' are voluntarily identifying themselves with the stalking paparazzi? Odd, I have the same 'equipment' and "desires" as a rapist but you'll not see me posturing in their defense!) Or maybe something outside the Public Forum completely! As in: "And now for something completely different: Stalking the Wild Larch!" -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Steven E-mail: It's Clean! Location: Boulder County Posted on: Tuesday September 23, 1997 BNF has completely cleaned up both this forum and the Ramsey forum of all the cybergraffiti. The most effective way to do this, of course, makes for a lot of white space. It'll fill up again, of course. Hopefully with posts that make full use of the language, not just the more primtive forms of it! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: (o o) E-mail: ( o ) Location: dats' right, uh huh Posted on: Tuesday September 23, 1997 Steven, Hoity - toity, jeepers I wish we could all as perfect as you. Are we still scamming IBM or did they get wise and SHIT CAN you. MORON !!!!!!!! Here are some tips for you when you are out of cash: Generic macaroni & cheese made with water isn't bad why am I bothering .... you are such a MORON. Dou*e BAG -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Steven E-mail: OK, Now Location: Boulder County Posted on: Tuesday September 23, 1997 try to use the rest of the language. BTW, I'll be employed again soon. If you learn how to behave, you may be able to move away from Mommyn and Daddy and have a real job yourself someday. Otherwise, you'll just grow up to be an idiot with nothing better to do with your life than spam and troll on computers. Sad.