旼컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴커 � ISSUE 007 - BOULDER NEWS FRENZY - ISSUE 007 � 냐컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴캐 � Released on October 9th, 1997 � 냐컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴캐 � The publishers of this newsletter take no responsibility for the use of � � any information printed and do not encourage others to bother the BNF. � � This is intended to document the events on the BNF only, nothing more. � 읕컴컴컴컴컴http://www.bouldernews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?Ramsey컴컴컴컴컴컴컴� -------------------------------------------------------- We must stop the PLA!!! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: LindaWS E-mail: 31337@hotmail.com Location: Toronto Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 Let's all band together and put an end to their bullshit! I'm sick and tired of this forum being ruined by these miscreants. I will not stand for it anymore. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: persephonie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 okay, what is it that you want to do? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Huh? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 You kidding? It seems quiet to me. There weren't 500 threads today. No sign of Logic or Tannest or RBCP. Just one teenie squirt who likes to spew nasties. Seems okay to me. Are you sure you want to start them back up again Linda? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: perseponie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 oh fuck you i am just curious as to what she thinks she can do. i mean freedom of speach will always rule. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Curious E-mail: ... Location: ... Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 can you please tell what is the meaning of your hat? what is a "perseponie"? is that like a unicorn? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: persephonie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 i don't know if i spell my hat correctly or not but persephonie is the greek goddess who makes the spring come. i like it well enough. it is pronounced per-se-fonie. so what do you think? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Curious E-mail: ... Location: ... Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 OK, thanks. I hope that you can make spring come soon. It's awfully hot right now. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: PERSEPHONIE E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 I AM TRYING MY BEST. SPRING ISN'T AN EASY THING TO BRING ABOUT YOU NOW. IT'S LIKE TRYING TO GET 17 YR. OLD BOYS DICK HARD AGAIN AFTER 5 MINUTES OF SEX. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Curious E-mail: ... Location: ... Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 Huh? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: PERSEPHONIE E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 YOU WANTED ME TO BRING SPRING SOONER CAUSE IT'S HOT. I WAS TRYING TO USE A METAPHORE, BRINGING SPRING EARLY IS AS DIFFICULT AS GETTING A SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD BOYS D-I-C-K HARD AFTER FIVE MINUTES OF SEX. HA HA IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY. OH WELL, AGAIN I AM A FAILURE. SORRY CAN YOU FORGIVE ME AND PLEASE CONTINUE TO CORESPOND WITH ME IT IS REALLY DEAD OUT HERE EXCEPT FOR THE REGULARS. I AM NOT A REGULAR SO I DON'T FIT IN. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Curious E-mail: ... Location: ... Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 OK, you just blew me away with the first reply. I'm bored too, usually my mom is on the PC all of time on this forum. I just wanted to check it out for myself. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: persephonie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 hey curious: now i'm curious, are you male or female. don't worry i'm not a maniac or anything. i won't ask for you name address and social security number i just want to get the general idea of who i'm speaking to. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Curious E-mail: ... Location: ... Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 Ok, i'm a boy, junior in high school here in NJ. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Curious E-mail: ... Location: ... Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 I probably can't stay on here much longer -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: PERSEPHONIE E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 and as you know i'm a girl. i just moved from up there a month ago. i was living on staten island with my mom. i would be a junior in high school but i got my ged when i was 16. now i'm 17. it's still hot up there?? it's like 99 degrees everyday here. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Curious E-mail: ... Location: ... Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 Yeah, it's hot outside anyway. where'd you move to? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: curious E-mail: ... Location: ... Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 i think i gotta go now. it was nice to meet you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: persephonie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 if your there curious i moved to florida bye -------------------------------------------------------- PERSOPHONIE IS PLA HACKER. STAY CLEAR Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Informant E-mail: Persophonie Location: is bogus Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 Persephonie is a PLA hacker. Stay clear of him. He is nasty foul mouthed. He is not a real poster here. He is just starting trouble and being trashy mouthed. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: persephonie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 i am a female thank you very much and i don't think my mouth is too foul. it could be worse. you are right about one thing though i am not a regular here. i am not a hacker. give it up. if you don't like me then don't corespond with me. but please spare me the dramatics i am only a 17 yr old girl not mr.boogey man. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Hey Girl E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 Spend your time working on your spelling. not here. You can't even spell your own name right. It's Persephone. And a little foul mouthed? Is that like a little dead? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: here is how we fuck you E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 want more ?? the door is always open we laugh as you cry into the night merry xmas fart knocker -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: persephonie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 i can spell my name anyway i like. it's just a hat. some people put ^^^^ or ___ as their hat how the fuck do you spell that? what's your problem? and for the poet try this one on for size: I WEPT A TINY STRUCTERED TEAR AND BLEED UNTIL MY BLOOD WOULD SMEAR. "ON IT'S OWN...ON IT'S OWN," I CRY WAITING FOR MY SOUL TO DIE. I HEAR A GENTAL NO FUSS TONE WHICH COMES TO BE MY BREATH ALONE. AND YOUS I LOVE TO SPLIT MY LIFE TO CONQURE ALL AND WIN THIS FIGHT. START WITH THE HEART WHERE LOVE IS MOST DISSECT MY VEINS TO MAKE IT SLOW. SURPASS THOSE SLIMY SCUM BLACK ROSES. HERE COMES THE VULCHURE IN EVIL POSES. HE COMES IN FLIGHT TO TAKE ME AWAY. ON THIS BLOOD FILLED SHATTERED DAY -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Ceres E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 Excellent, seph! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: persephonie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 i did spell a few words wrong, it is late but i certainly showed them. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Ceres E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 g'nite seph! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Peaches E-mail: xxxxxxxxxxx Location: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Posted on: Monday September 01, 1997 Right On Hey Girl, Personic who? What a drag!!! Soooo boring too! Have to almost feel sorry for someone like that, no life, I guess. *S* -------------------------------------------------------- Father Flannigan Really is RBCP Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: TH E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 03, 1997 The Head Troll -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Helper E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 03, 1997 Of course he is, that was obvious last night. The guy is a complete creep, with all that masturbation talk. -------------------------------------------------------------- BNF -vs- Joshua-7 Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Cast Your Vote For The Best Forum E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 Hands down this one gets my vote. Things have been so much better now that the PLA are completely gone, it's starting to feel like our same old forum again. I whole heartedly hope people will start posting with their original hats again and once again participating as we did last Winter. We had some spectacular sessions here and I know we can again. Bayou XOXOX -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: JP E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 This one gets my vote. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: zix E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 Just Dropping In wants you to visit his/her homepage titled (a href="http://members.tripod.com/~JustDropIn/rnote-1.jpg")Click Here for Page I of Ransom Note(/a) -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Steven E-mail: This form Location: Boulder COunty Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 Has my vote. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: starfish E-mail: atwork Location: inboulder Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 This one, this one! Mir zu, mir zu!! -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Babe E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 I like it best here. Even the crazy people here are better. And there are some very smart people here. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BayB B E-mail: Location: 6:55pm cdt Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 This forum is by far the best when it is allowed to be, although I do appreciate joshua-7 when this one is messed up. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Opie E-mail: I vote for: Location: BNF bulletin board Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 Much more interesting than Joshua. A lot of old gasbags over there - pretentious and cliquey. The posters here are so much more clever and colorful. And this Forum scoops all the others -- gets the news fresh and first. Steven, disregard that cuckoo Mel -- she ranted on and on about Santa here under a different hat. We ignored her. She gets more of an audience over there. Don't do her research for her -- the lazy old coot! -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Babe E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 I want to add that I like Joshua and they do a fine job, I just like it here better. But does anyone here lurk or post over at alt.tru-crime? I lurk there, but less and less. It is such a zoo, they get into these amazing arguments. They've been having one for weeks that has hundreds of posts becasue someone called somebody an asshole. And they get into these insane arguments about what "asshole" means and how it should be used. And they gang up on each other and send emails attaking one another. The week the fial autopsy was released, all they talked about was this asshole thing. They are STILL talking about it! It's so nice here in comparison. Has anyone else seen this over there? -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BN gets my vote E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 have seen a few sites, Josh. is O.K. great place. Just used to this one for many months, flamers and all. Not a bad crowd_ when the kids are out of here. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Rockford E-mail: 8:45pm EDT Location: Canada Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 Babe - yes, I saw it. Then I switched on the kill filters, and now I don't see it! -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: "T" for Texas E-mail: "T" for Tennessee Location: We combine to cast our vote... Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 FOR the BOULDER NEWS FORUM! They have gotten so inbred over at that other place I'm reminded of my cousins down there where they filmed 'Deliverance'. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Anita E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 yeah well Josh 7 had the ramsome note before you guys even knew it was online. better not write them off completly. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Anita E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 Learn to spell ransom you moron! -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Au Contraire! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 My sweet Anita, you don't follow this forum very closely....do you? BTW: You probably have a spell checker on your PC, calm down and use it...that's a dear. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To: Steven (BC) E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 LOL, I just placed that PS poster. Were you around on this forum when he posted here...used to start threads all day and night. He particularly liked to title threads "Wooden Gun Sheriff" or some such nonsense. Made the claim (could be true, who cares?) that Ally Walker was his cousin. I could picture him foaming at the mouth, sometimes. Catch his murder thread on their 'true crime' board sometime, will you? -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: strange E-mail: Location: NC Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 I like this forum the best. I can follow the threads easier. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Anonymous E-mail: ::::: Location: ::::: Posted on: Monday September 08, 1997 I Vote For BNF! The Joshua Forum Is Corrupt! They Don't Believe In The First Ammendment. Over At Joshua, If Dan Doesn't Like Your Post, He Will Vandalize It Every Time. It Doesn't Matter If It Was Your True Feelings, And It Was Not Hurting Anybody, And Was Clean (No Bad Language). It Happened To Me Over At Joshua, So I Don't Go There At All, Anymore!! Here, At BNF, I Can Express Myself With Clean And Non-Edited Posts. I Post Only, And I Mean Only, When I Feel I Must. Thank You For Listening. I Vote This Forum As Number 1. -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Oooops! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 09, 1997 I think I want to switch my vote to Joshua-7! -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: RBCP E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: celina, ohio Posted on: Tuesday September 09, 1997 I love BNF the best because everyone here always talks about me and the PLA which is really a big ego boost since I'm a little washed up worm and nobody cares what I do anymore. And that dumb Joshua-7 board always deletes my posts and has outsmarted me so I cant make posts go there automatically. So BNF definately gets my vote! -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Exposer of killer E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 09, 1997 What difference does it make - the same mental dwarf dominates both forums. Anything RNW has invented is evil. Joshua-7 is his toy/just like the JBR website folks. Wise up. -------------------------------------------------------- Did the PLA commit the crime or not? Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: blah E-mail: blah@yaddahyaddah.com Location: umm, my mom? Posted on: Thursday September 11, 1997 I am convinced the PLA and their band of techno-anarchists created the Ramsey murder as hoax. Their guilty of the whole crop circle thing and will do nasty things to your dog if allowed. They read your mail and call you in the middle of the night and call you Roy. the PLA have no god except the telephone, and thanks to the voices of Satan palying in thier heads they killed poor little Jon Benet. God Rest Her Poor Little Soul and GODDAMN THE MOTHAFUCKIN PLA! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Nunnya Bizness E-mail: lmao@aol.com Location: Muskeegee,Ok Posted on: Thursday September 11, 1997 As a member of the PLA, I must affirm the previous statement which implicated us as the killers of Jon Benet Ramsey. You see we saw her as the root of all evil and as such we had to end her evil life. Her supposed pageant girl image was nothing but a hoax. She sacrificed numerous other classmates to appease her god, satan. She, in every possible essence of her being, was evil. Her parents did not kill her. They were too scared. They feared their lives every time that they even thought anything even the least bit derogatory towards that little satan. It was up to the PLA to take this matter into it's own hands and end the blackness, the evil. Do not hate us for what we did, bless us as the circumventers of the apocalypse. Jon Benet Ramsey=666 -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Betsy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 11, 1997 I find it extremely disturbing that this has reared it's ugly head again in such a sensitive newsgroup. The people that are doing this should realize that Jon Benet is a victim in all this, just a sweet little girl. Now the kids, (and I use the term loosely,) responsible for this should know that she loved the world and showed it through her beauty. A loss of such a star is something we should all mourn, not mock. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Betsy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday September 11, 1997 I didn't write the above post, obviously, but I think I know who did, and why. -------------------------------------------------------- Dan's Forum Reaches New Low Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Throwing Up E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 Whatever you do, do not look at the pictures on Dan's Board called JonBenet. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Corrina E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 You got me. Can't find the forum, used to have it, what is on it? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Forget it!!!!! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 If you have any decency in you, just leave that alone! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BJ E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 WHY'D YOU MENTION IT IF YOU WANTED US TO LEAVE IT ALONE? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: maxi E-mail: 8:21 pm est Location: DC Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 Someone has posted a close-up photo of what appears to be disease female genitalia. It has nothing to do with JonBenet and is very ugly. I e-mailed Dan to let him know, and I'm sure he will get rid of it. In the meantime, the photo may crop up on any thread in that forum. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To maxi E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 I bet you and your husband are fighting over the monitor over that one, you sick, perverted creep. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: Maxi E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 Thanks, I did the same to the site webmaster. Whover started this thread is sick, IMO. signed: disgusted with some posters to this forum -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Throwing Up E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 I didn't put that picture there, I saw it and thought I would warn you all. I won't go back to a place that allows pictures without approval to be posted. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: I'll E-mail: give Location: the Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 throwing up poster the benefit of a doubt re the intention of the thread. But it surely increased the number of 'hits' that photo got. Things like that are better dealt with in the manner of the posters 'maxi' and 'to maxi'. Word of mouse is the way this net works. And there is enough cross forum bashing going on already, your thread title blames "Dan's Forum", not "The posters to Dan's Forum". No flame intended, but a word to the wise..... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: maxi E-mail: 8:40 pm est Location: DC Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 No reason to boycott Dan's forum. It has mostly good posts from thoughtful people. Dan can't be on top of it all the time. I'm sure he'll take care of it ASAP. In the meantime, if you don't feel you can scroll past it when it shows up, don't go there for a while. I'll post when I see that it's all gone. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Sadly E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 Newbie posters to Dan's forum didn't heed the advice of 'I'll' above. Things like this should be fought through the appropriate channels. Posters only contribute to the twisted ego of the creep. If it's obscenity like that, go to the webmaster and hope that they will pursue the full legal means available. Allowing that type of post was bound to lead to this. I'm glad they stopped it here. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Brilliance~ E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 The pictures are gone now. Thankfully he has decided to longer accept photos on messages. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: They traced E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 the ISP also. Then someone who knew who the poster was provided name and phone number. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Flower E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 It's too much to hope that someone actually did provide the address and phone number. But, if it were true, what could happen to the criminal? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: Flower E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 I dunno, but hanging is too good for him. David posted a message that he got e-mail from the computer's owner with the info. Ticklish thing though, that internic trace and all. Somebody also posted a phoney ISP for the guy. A reminder to not post any personal info on yourself or anyone else ANYWHERE! And if you see personal info, don't always assume that it is what someone on the net claims it to be. OK, I'm off of the soap box now. -------------------------------------------------------- October's Issue of 'The Net' Magazine Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Astonished E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 You won't believe this but the PLA (Phone Losers of America) are written up in the October Issue of The Net Magazine. No kidding. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Tee hee E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 And I wonder why the URL is wrong ...... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: annoyed E-mail: at Location: PLA Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 They also managed to weasle their way into "The Web" magazine last month. And according to their page, this is the second time they've been in The Net magazine. What did this review say? I don't read that trash? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Wow!!! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday September 13, 1997 Maybe we should feel honored they chose us. -------------------------------------------------------- LETS GET RID OF JAMESON Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Peachy E-mail: Since Location: Jameson Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 is so intent on ruining this forum, lets wipe him out. Everyone who comes in start a new discussion and soon his will be gone. Thanks for helping get rid of this foolish person. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Jameson is annoying but E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 These multiple threads are PLA work. Or Betsy, the self-appointed scourge of the forum. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: () E-mail: () Location: () Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Looks like the retarded adults and emotionally unstable are at it again. Who the hell Cares about Jamison? Why are you so affected by he/she/it? You are the most disruptive person here. This is not the work of PLA. They are through playing here. Only an obsessed adult would keep on doing sick and annoying things like this. It is a way for the powerless to feel powerful. Ignore! -------------------------------------------------------- shohani, are you here??? Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Ducking For Cover E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Girlfriend? Are you there? This PLA attack is rough, and I think they have got us beat this time. Please signal if you are here. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 ? How is this being done if there is a limit of one thread per hour? I tried it and could not get a second thread. Is someone at daily camera doing this? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Flower E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 It seems to me that whenever someone goes to one of those threads another is added...Just a guess. Wonder if BN knows this is happening again? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 ? I don't think they would care, Boulder print media do not want to see good Christian PromiseKeepers arrested for this crime. They want you to forget about it and get on with your life. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: I disagree. E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 For why would they provide this forum? I think they are at a complete loss as to what can or should be done about it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Get real E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 They had the forum set up years ago. This JonBenet category just came up due to interest. They would be behooved to get rid of it as soon as possible. It serves no purpose. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Well, have you seen any editorials calling for an arrest? Don't think so. Do you wonder why? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 777 E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Sure do wonder why. I really don't think so much ineptitude could occur in one town...someone around town must have some kind of intellect and common sense at the very least. Looks sorta like noone's home. (IMO) -------------------------------------------------------- Sunday afternoon, JonBenet, #3 Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: (oo) E-mail: 3:25 eastern Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Post on. Posting time helps new arrivals during an imp infestation. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: dreamer E-mail: Location: ohio Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 What the hell is going on? Is Patsy Paugh destroying this forum because arrest is near? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: (oo) E-mail: Location: 3:30 eastern Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 I doubt it, on both counts. PLA'ers must not have much homework this weekend. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 ? One thread per hour? How is this being aborted? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: no hat here E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Dreamer, Someone is diligently working their little fingers to the bone trashing the forum this weekend. I doubt seriously that someone is Patsy Paugh. But then, there are people who still think the McSantas committed the murder...so I could be wrong. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: dreamer E-mail: Location: ohio Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 It would only be to the advantage of a Ramsey to silence this Forum. Frankly, most other people wouldn't give a damn. If insider is still aboard, will we see an arrest soon? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Geekmeister E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 to: ? It can be done. I guess that's obvious. :) I did it this morning (created the thread #'s 1a, 1b, 1c & 1d) just to check out the timing. If you're trying hard, you can do one thread per minute. I think this snert has a helper every now and then. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: No more hats E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 I hope Thread Watcher is one of the people Det. X said on Friday would be monitoring the forum while he was out out town. I know from his previous posts three people are involved in the PLA research/expose. That's right, Hofstom snapped, "They won't take one." He's also the one who provided the Rs with the ransom note and their original staments. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: (oo) E-mail: 3:45 eastern Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 The 1/hour limit is still in effect. I just tried to start another thread as a test. Imps have either managed to bypass it, or have assigned harrassment times to several members. dreamer, PLA'ers get their kicks from disrupting forums and chat rooms. A new form of juvenile delinquency. I can't imagine why the Ramsey's would care about this forum. We don't know anything the cops don't, and I doubt we've thought of anything the cops haven't. We are no danger to them. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Above Poster E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Now, now, stop adding that apostrophe when you don't need it Murphy. You would call them the Ramseys, not the Ramsey's. You spell as though you are, oh, I don't know.... in the PLA maybe? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Geekmeister E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 to: (oo) I agree that it is the snerts. See my previous post. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: dreamer E-mail: Location: ohio Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 We know Patsy watches TV such as LKL. It makes sense she monitors forums on the internet. She cannot stand for anyone to say that she and JR are guilty. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: No more hats E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Questioner: I remember your comments on a timeline yesterday. I think something happened behind the scenes in early April because that's when the cops stoppped sharing. I still think these PLA threads are self-generating from one of their sites. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Phone losers are back E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 The phonelosers we page has a warning screen with an enter button on it. Don't press that enter button if you go here because it posts a new thread here, and you end up back here! http://www.phonelosers.org/ -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: (oo) E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 To above Poster, I am not Murphy. I am not PLA. Promise. I just made a mistake. Geekmeister, I wasn't doubting you. I hadn't seen your post. Going the normal route got me a message saying 1 per hour. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Flower E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Geekmeister, is it possible that by visiting one of their threads another is then created? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Geekmeister E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 to: (oo) No problemo! Someone posted a way to bypass the limit when the restriction was implemented. It was not me and I will not post that type of info into open net space. BTW: I also would not make a post telling someone not to go to a site and then give the site URL. :) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Trasher Basher E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 I sent an e-mail message to : abuse@mindspring.net It said: The following page www.mindspring.com.~powers1/pla Phone Loosers of America Is trashing the Boulder News Forum by posting a garbage thread each time the link is followed. Please. This is really making mindspring look bad to the forum participants. [This is weird that they'd send abuse mail to Mindspring. The guy who runs PLA of Georgia is the only PLA-related page on Mindspring and it has nothing to do with BNF. So why they thought this would help, we're not too sure. ] -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 ? Sad to see such control freaks at work here. Any thoughts about a way to end this. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Geekmeister E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Flower, Yes. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Imposter E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 They are defeating their purpose. At least now, we can find the active thread. What kind of a loser must this person be? LOL -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Bored Idiots E-mail: Location: Boulder Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Wow...didn't believe the stuff about the Enter button...It's true...don't touch that enter button. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Flower E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Geekmeister, don't you suppose one of the "phone losers" made that post. Clever way to get the site in and have constant attention. Then, later they will do it again at this thread moves on to the great thread heaven in the sky. Like rabbits. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: (oo) E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Geekmeister, Thanks for not posting that information. I also was amused by the person posting don't go here, and then giving the URL. Flower, Visiting a junk thread here on the JonBenet BNF will not cause another thread to be posted, but visiting a site elsewhere might cause a junk thread to appear here. That is what was happening during our previous infestation. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Agree With Poster From Earlier E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 The poster formerly known as Denver has commissioned the PLA to do this. -------------------------------------------------------- Sunday, JonBenet #4 Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: (oo) E-mail: 4:35 pm eastern Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Launching another lifeboat for anybody wanting to post. Time is very useful during imp, snert, or just plain a--hole infestation. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: lost a lotta hats E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 LOL Anybody else move up? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Flower E-mail: 3:42 Central Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 This is just so juvenile, so one must believe it's snerts. Would someone repost the definition? Also, what was the Wheel of Misfortune? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: (oo) E-mail: 4:40 eastern Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 I started a new thread hoping to save your allotment for a little while. At the recent rate of movement, this thread should be around about an hour, maybe less. I've got to go. Don't give up the ship. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Don't really want to know E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 but 16:18 til 16:31? Is that how long it takes to get high again? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: No more hats E-mail: 1:42 Western Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Is mindspring.com the server for the pla site? Seems to me that complaints were issued there before but they didn't do any good. Does anyone else remember? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Don't E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 LOL! Guess if they're snorting like pigs. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: No hat here either E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 I thought it was 'geocities', but I could be wrong. They are at all of the free web page providers anyway. Do a search and take a look, they must have as many branches as a poison oak. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Flower E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Think you are correct. As I recall they were unaffected and PLA enjoyed our effort immensely. Course, that was PLA and this may well be snerts. Which do you think it is? Please tell about the Wheel. I'm wilting of curiosity here. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Geekmeister E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Flower, this was the original definition: Snert: An obnoxious person (often a teenage boy) who offends or harasses other members or guests of an online chat room. Snert allegedly stands for "sexually nerdish expressively recidivistic troll." -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: $$$ E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 They were on tripod too. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: LOL 2 E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 It's been a few minutes ,,, overdose? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: fly E-mail: ... Location: on the wall at 4:50 edt Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Yikes! Things were so calm on Friday. When did this start? LOL2- We couldn't be that lucky. More likely a twinkie break. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Oreo E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Hello All...Looks like a bad time to rejoin the threads.... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Geekmeister E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 IMO, these trashers are giving the snerts a rep they probably don't deserve. :) Tripod gave the PLA the boot, if I recall correctly. Flower, The Wheel of Fortune was amusing to some, it's a week or so back in the archives. Again, when someone posts personal info here, make very sure you check it out. It's a common tactic of the PLA to post personal info on someone wearing a hat you trust. Then that person is harrassed...the very person the PLA wanted harrassed to begin with. Off my soapbox and off forum for a bit. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: No more hats E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Flower, I guess you missed my explanation two threads ago. Det. X (& 2 coherts) spent an inordinate amount of time researching and tracking the pla's movements (don't know enough of the tech terms) and discovered all kinds of personal info on Tannest. Each time a pla-linked thread would appear, he'd give out one letter of her company or client. It was truly a cyber lynching and a hilarious evening. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ISP ??? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Who is the service provider for this site, anyone know? I want to sent them an abuse complaint e-mail. http://www.phonelosers.org/ -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Geekmeister E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 I lied, last post is this one. :) Maybe the poster on the thread below "trasher basher" ??, who sent the e-mail was effective. I also hope that poster saw my apology. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Flower E-mail: 3:55 PM Location: Dallas Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Geekmeister, thanks again. I just love this and saved it this time. Oreo, it's a good time to come for we won't be scattered and can actually enjoy an exchange of ideas of one thread. Snerts Unite! You have done us a favor and we are really glad. It might well have backfired on you this time, you silly nillies. Belinda, looks more and more like she did it. Did you see where another poster suggested she also included little snippets where John could look like the composer? Specific words misspelled which he apparently was known to have problems with. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: EVERYONE E-mail: START Location: A Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 NEW THREAD EACH TIME YOU COME IN HERE, COULD HAVE HAD 18 NEW ONES AND GOT RID OF JAMESON FOR AWHILE. DO IT NOW. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: :( E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 But the Wheel of Fortune Game was brought to a halt when Tannest supplied all the information about herself before X could go further. It was hilarious until then and that kind of put a damper on it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: fly E-mail: ... Location: on the wall Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Poster on previous (now archived) thread suggested that going to the site given above is what is creating threads here. I don't know if that is true, but that is what happened during our troubles a few weeks ago. Stay away. Can't remember who said on the previous thread that PLA probably was posting that URL here, and probably would do so again once that thread was gone. Bingo! You win a kewpie doll! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Just a visor today E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 I have the e-mail from the lower thread "somewhere on this pc". I'll look for it and make a post. -------------------------------------------------------- LOGICBOX READ THIS NOW!!! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective X E-mail: Caught You Location: Hook Line & Sinker Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 You begged me to stop the war. I did. But now your at it again. It is 8:40 California time. You have until 9:00 p.m. California time to stop the PLA postings. Do you understand Ryan Scott? If this war doesn't stop by 9:00 p.m. I will call your parents at 9:15 California time. I will also post your school and the city you live in. I will give your home address and phone number. Get it punk? I want you to respond here that you have read this and understand and have called off the PLA. Got it? If there ain't no response, you better home your parents aren't at home tonight. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Agent "A" E-mail: TRY TO GUESS Location: All over the world Posted on: Sunday September 14, 1997 Bravo! Detective X! This cyber-vandalism was always orchestrated by Logic-Box! Too bad he left a trail on the 'net. He has minions working for him. Maybe even tonight. He is a coward and we can be sure that he will do EVERYTHING to deflect blame from himself. Yeah, "Brad" is his name, whatnot? You got his number, place of residence, school? ( he has got to be a bad student.) GO FOR IT! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 9x E-mail: 9x Location: nynex Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 fuck off, kn33 gr0wS we 0wn j00r bucketty asses, fr00t cakEs -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Deep Shadow E-mail: Location: Denver Area Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 It looks like "Detective X" has a handle on the cyber-vandal here. Regardless of his name---Brad or Ryan, we can expect a lot of trouble for him. Ryan Scott? If he continues in his trashing of the threads here or has sanctioned one of his lackies to do it, is in BIG TROUBLE! Let Mommy and Daddy explain to a major newspaper chain what you did here. Lotsa BAD LUCK! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective X E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Your last chance punk. It is 9:07 California time. I will tell what high school you attend in 5 minutes. After that what city. Its up to you punk. Ain't no sweat off my nose. You don't care. I don't care. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Questioner E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 So, it looks like Ryan Scott is the thread destroyer. Previously known as "Logic-Box." We can thank "Detective X" for exposing his activity here. Would everyone else care to put the juvenile zit-faced Mr. Scoot in his place? [Who knows why they assumed Logic Box was the spammer this time. For all we know, he may have not even been home when all this was happening. Nobody ever called his house, though. ] -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: LOL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 I bet he is terrified. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective X E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 The little zit face attends Fremont High School The city he lives in is next. Wanna keep playing this game Logicbox? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Agent A E-mail: YOU WILL NEVER GUESS Location: USA Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Logic-Box is the main perpetrator! GO GET HIM, Detective X! All of us here want to talk to his high school principal, and make sure that he NEVER has INTERNET access out of his school ever again. I am sure that most of us at this point won't worry about a long distance call, to be rid of him and his ilk. Too bad, "Logic-Box." You chose the wrong people to mess with! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Just curious, E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 has anyone driven by Samantha's house yet? Does it have lots of weeds and cars on blocks? Or maybe a beat up red (ancient) pickup sitting amongst the debris of her wretched little life? Do hogs and chickens scatter as a car approaches? Or, does she live more simply in the projects? She surely would not have the wherewithall to live in a home. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: SomeotherDet E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 He lives in Mt. View -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: He? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Mt. View what? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: TO: Just Curious E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Samantha doesn't OWN a house. She lives in a crummy low-rent apartment. If her Brother didn't own an Internet Service Provider company she would be out on the streets peddling her ass to anyone driving by. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Another Detective E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 He don't live in Mtn View. I know where he lives. C'mon Det. X. Lets see if you did your homework. What city does he live in? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: But, hey. E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 isn't that what she does with her groupies anyway? (Peddle her ass.) Otherwise, how does the little urchin accomplish the trashing? One can't help but wonder to what extent her brother is involved. Interesting that he owns that company. He would have access to all kinds of information on lots of folks. I'm thinking he is probably just as criminal as his sister. And how about the other sister? Geez. Hard to actually believe we're dealing with Samantha and Tabitha. Is this a family of real witches? Sure sounds that way. Please, folks, don't make the mistake of thinking the brother is decent. With his sisters having those names and having sprung from the same loins, I wonder if the whole fam damily is in on it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Just another thought... E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Considering the type person our girl Samantha is, just knowing the rest of the family is really white trash too, don't you think the maternal genes probably won out? I mean, it's unlikely that there was any real supervision or involvement at home when they were growing up. Maybe Mom's a slut and they all have different fathers. Sounds more plausible, imo. By the way....Don't flame me for the satements. I'm white and no slut, but sure don't know what our home would've been like without strong and competent paternal involvement. Kids simply need a daddy if there is to be any hope. I'd bet a lot of money on the fact that there is no father in that household. Just a slut called mom or sis or aunt. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Old Hat E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Congratulations Detective X. Job well done. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Flower E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Detective X, if this ceases it is because of you and your fine efforts. Boulder News should thank you personally. But the lilly livers will continue to simply bury their heads and say nothing, I imagine. But, Old Hat, don't count your chickens yet. We don't know that it's over. More threads have been added. -------------------------------------------------------- PLA=Pathetic Little Assholes Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: CDW E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 But they will have to go to sleep soon. School day tommorow! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Deep Shadow E-mail: Location: Denver Area Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Sorry. This continuing destruction of the threads here is being done by the "PLA" minion named "Logic-Box," aka Ryan Scott. He is a high school student out of California. He is responsible for all of the damage. Bragged about it. Months ago in the "PLA" e-zine. Too bad for him. He is responsible for "denial of service" here. Let's hope that his parents can afford a good attorney to plead him out the the mess that he created here. [Ho boy, here we go with the lawsuit threats again. ] -------------------------------------------------------- LOGIC BOX I HAVE YOU NOW Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective X E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 You sounded pretty scared on the phone, you dork-faced little punk. Now we're gonna call your school and tell them you've been spamming our board. What do you think about THAT? HUH? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Oh Boy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 I bet they put him away for 30 years. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Flower E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 X, did you actually connect by phone to the group? Do tell. Were Mom and Dad actually home? Are there really parent figures or is this kid from a place (apartment) of his own and farmed out to just get rid of him? I envision a kid from trash, living in trash with no supervision. Parents either absent or druggies or drunk. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: grateful E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Go Detective X! The regulars of this board are behind you 110%. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: uh oh E-mail: uh oh Location: uh oh Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Here's what I envision the conversation with Logic's school to be like: school: hello, logic's high school, may i help you? bnf: yes, you have a ryan scott there? school: yes we do bnf: well, he's been trashing our web board really bad and we don't like it school: uh, i don't understand. we'll suspend him from computer classes so he won't learn how to do that anymore *click* -------------------------------------------------------- Logicbox=PLA=Pathetic Little Asshole Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: CDW E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 What more can I say? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective X Fan E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 If Detective X can succeed in ridding this forum of the scum like Tannest and Logic and rbcp, then I nominate Detective X for Forum hero! Job well done master sleuth. What kind of cigars were those you like? Hell, maybe we can get him some real cubanos for this work! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: k E-mail: kk Location: k Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 ryan scott's mother is kami her phone number is 303 469 3282 the address is 5710 West 108th place, broomfield, 80020-3116 -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Henry Morgan E-mail: Location: NY Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Actually, I don't think that Detective X or whatever he/she is has found anything about our jolly boy/girl. To accomplish that he/she had to: 1. Hack this server to gain the root access. 2. Install some sort of tracer to find trasher's IP address. 3. Find ISP that owns this address. 4. Hack that ISP's server. 5. Trace that second server activity to catch the hooligan and access his/her personal data. If our Detective was so powerFOOL it would be much easier for him to block that person by some technical means rather then trash our threads with yet another unrelated topic. Also, it's quite possible that our brave Detective fights him/herself. P.S. You see, I'm really not a sexist. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: DETECTIVE X E-mail: The real one Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 That is NOT Logicboxs telephone number. Do not call that number. I don't know where it goes to but that is NOT it. Someone is trying to fool you. Logicbox does NOT live in that state. DO NOT CALL THAT NUMBER!!!!!! That is a setup. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Chewing on my Hat E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 I agree with H. Morgan, although it is possible to trace the ISP. However, anyone who would stoop to posting someone's personal information onto an open forum is no better than those that have been trashing this forum this weekend, IMO. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Henry Morgan E-mail: Location: NY Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 To Chewing on my Hat: Thanks. Though I believe sometimes publishing the personal data is a good thing. I completely support Megan Law for instance. Also, I'd like to point out that Detective X's post emerged some 20-30 minutes after I pointed out that shutting down the Access' ISP by mass email could help because the spammer is probubly Ramsey's employee. This way people attention was directed to another, more convinient for Access discussion. Actually, I don't think shutting down Access' access to the Net would stop spam cause he/she could easily use some private account at AOL or somewhere else. But it would bring some attention to our forum and indirectly force the Boulder News to do something about our friend. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Brimless Hat Now E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 H. Morgan, Megan's Law is an excellent law, IMO. There, the information is realeased by the proper authority. I just witnessed recently a well meaning individual post an ISP for a deviant poster. Turns out that his internic was wrong. Thankfully, the webmaster removed the incorrect post as soon as he was notified the post existed. Good night with hopes for a good new week to come. I only hung out here this long to make a thread for the morning posters. :) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Honor E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 What comes around goes around. Hit them when they least expect it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Henry Morgan E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 You really are internet ignorant, aren't you. I you had been on this forum any length of time, and followed how this LogicBox, Tannest and the PLA have wrecked this forum and then bragged about it on their web sites, you would know that this is not Ramsey-paid stooges like jameson that are doing this to the forum. Do your homework you old fool, and you will see who is terrorizing this forum, and maybe then you will appreciate what Detective X is trying to do. I have personally called the Boulder News, and they are not going to do anything about the PLA since this is a public, open forum. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Then E-mail: They Location: Might Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 As well take this forum off. If they can't do anything about it, what good is it if someone comes in every day and ruins it? I know I won't be back, and yes I know that I am playing right into their hands, but what good is it this way? I will go somewhere else more interesting. Gone for good. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Henry Morgan E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Yes, you show why a little knowledge is dangerous. Hacking BNF to get the source IP, then hacking the ISP to get the personal info is ONE way. It is not the only way. The people setting up pages that cause new thread to be created may leave traces there. They may post in other places (like the PLA website) and proclaim their destructiveness there, and also leave a trace. They may do other things on the net under the same handles and be traced by that. If they access IRC their IP addresses may be visible (and yes, I mean MAY). Etc. For example, personal info of regular posters was posted here many months ago, yet BNF was never hacked. So you see, you may know one way, but don't be arrogant and assume it is the only way. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: What a Joke! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Henry Morgan, you really are clueless, aren't you! -------------------------------------------------------- CONCISE INFO ON PLA Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Helper E-mail: Helper.com Location: Helperville Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Here it all is in a nice concise form: Logicbox = Ryan Scott Age= 17 Graduates 1998 From= Fremont H.S. RBCP = Bill Cook Where = Celina, Ohio Tannest = Samantha Kay Dahl Stack Where = Bend, Oregon If you don't believe the PLA is doing this look at this page: http://members.tripod.com/~wartally/ It has a spiffy speech from Tannest. If you want to visit RBCP go to http://www.bright.net/~bac. Looks like our King of the Losers has not been using his computer since August 30. Is he in jail? Tsk Tsk. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Give Credit To Those Who Deserve E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Tannest did not make the war tally page. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Sweet Pea E-mail: sweetpea@spiffnet.net Location: St. Louis Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 My information is that it is a Diana Goldman, who is also Jameson. This is NOT PLA! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Hmmmmm E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 thought Jameson was Sue Bennett. how did Diana Goldman come to the picture? -------------------------------------------------------- Does Jameson make these threads? Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Dr Buck E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Does Jameson make these serial PLA threads or is it someone using his name? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Old news E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 If you enter a certain area on the PLA site it automatically creates a thread here. They are doing this on purpose to trash this forum. I don't know why they use Jameson's name, but I do know that he/she used to visit their MIRC chat room. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: LOL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Jameson never went to the PLA area. He has only spoken to Tannest and Logic and the others when they went to #cybetsleuths or other areas the main group used. Leave the guy alone and blame the PLA for this shit because they are doing it and I hope they all get exposed good. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Surprised E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday September 15, 1997 Curious as to why the PLA doesn't retaliate and expose the members of this forum. -------------------------------------------------------- A MESSAGE TO THE SPAMMERS Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective P E-mail: none Location: your nightmares Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 If I were you, I would talk to rbcp, tannest, and logicbox before I spam much more. We can put a serious crimp in your life. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Snowabbit E-mail: Location: Boulder, CO Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Well, I wish you would start doing that. I swear. If this newspaper MADE people "register" with their real names and email addresses and then checked up on it, this forum would be clean as a whistle. I know there is software that could do that easily. Why don't they bother? Thanks, Sno -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: But Look What They Say About Us E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 This is from THEIR very own PLA pages. Read it. They are EVIL. They are laughing at us. So fuck you, you elderly, menopausal, geriatric, 80-year old ladies that have no computer skills whatsoever, voodoo witches, princesses of power, people who impersonated the "PLA", people I impersonated, real teachers, fake teachers, #cybersleuths, grinning denture wearing, spies for both sides, dykes, crazy liars, crazy honest people....oh, I hope I didn't forget any of you. Joshua-7 boards (link on following page) get terrorized, as it looks as though the entire BNF headed over there. Havok_'s new page for Joshua-7, which is quite similar to the Jameson's Chilipepper page, posts photos of Linda and heads pasted on naked bodies on the forum. Most of them just don't understand what happened. Spam posts continue, and I find this humorous post. Post:Today they have started a few new tricks. These tricks indicate to me that these hackers are not simply juveniles who hack phone lines, commit fraud and so on, all of which they brag about in their repulsive manifesto, a tiny portion of which V quoted from in the thread below. It is crystal clear to me that they work at Boulder News, or HAVE THE ABILITY TO HACK INTO YOUR SYSTEM, and have a powerful network consisting of many computers with different accounts, and that their whole mission is to post offensive spam 24 hours a day. They are never away from the forum. PLA guest book gets spammed with some really cool heiroglyphics, and the guestbook is broken for about 24 hours. RBCP put quite a bit of work into getting it running again, and sent me this email: To: Wartally@hotmail.com From: Bac@bright.net RedBoxChiliPepper Would you keep your damned boulder forum people out of my guestbook area? I'm tired of cleaning up after the idiots that are trying to retaliate against YOU. Disassociate yourselves with the PLA so we can all get on with our goals without these disruptions. It appears as though you've got Havok_ running the show for you guys over there, why not leave it at that? I have better things to do than fix my god damned web page everyday. Fuck off, RBCP. The PLA isn't yours anymore. IT IS OWNED BY US, IT'S NOW A CO-OP! You liked fucking with these people til they started fucking with you back. Why must we leave all PLA references out? I understand how irritating it is to go check the guest book (as I check it every hour or so) and have it be nothing but crazy spams. I doubt they'll do it again. Havok_ changes Jameson's chilipeppers page to have it post much longer and exquisitely worded topics. Extensive hours of picking through the archived threads turns up some very humorous posts. You can access them at the LINKS*CREDITS*INFOpage later this evening. (August 19th). Forum regulars fight to keep JonBenet interest in the board, but no one without any serious dedication is going to stick around. Well, an exquisite day if I do say so myself. Three or four people claim to have found out my aliases, most of which are girls which makes me feel rather effeminate. The big highlight of the day, however, is havok_'s ingenious plan to bring back memories of way back when; the times of the glorious spams to the BNF. Since you can only make one new thread an hour, he shrewdly created a way for everyone to post one of three fantastic sayings. I will let you know how we got all those people to go click on "jameson's chilipepper" when this little fiasco is over. I am very joyful to see the return of the lawsuits and jailtime posts, as these really make my day everytime I see them. Threats include, but are surely not limited to: jail for violating the BNF posters first amendment rights, hacking the board (even when there's about 300 posts telling them that we're not hacking a damned thing), co-conspiring with the Ramseys to destroy the forum (I think the last thing on these peoples minds is a damned newspaper forum, get a god damned clue), and others I've surely forgotten. Havok_ is labeled our new hero and we impeach RBCP as the leader of the PLA. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Brer Rabbit E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 And how are WE supposed to talk to those geeks? Do you want we should call them? Oh sure. Thats what everyone wants is for them to have our phone numbers to. Right. Sure. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: No Hacker E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Look at this quote from above post. It makes my blood boil. "Fuck off, RBCP. The PLA isn't yours anymore. IT IS OWNED BY US, IT'S NOW A CO-OP! You liked fucking with these people til they started fucking with you back. Why must we leave all PLA references out? " And this one. Look what they are doing to us. "The big highlight of the day, however, is havok_'s ingenious plan to bring back memories of way back when; the times of the glorious spams to the BNF. Since you can only make one new thread an hour, he shrewdly created a way for everyone to post one of three fantastic sayings. I will let you know how we got all those people to go click on "jameson's chilipepper" when this little fiasco is over. I am very joyful to see the return of the lawsuits and jailtime posts, as these really make my day everytime I see them. " THE ONLY GOOD THING I SEE IS THAT THERE FIGHTING WITH THEMSELVES NOW. MAYBE THEY WILL SELF DESTRUCT. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to detective A E-mail: Location: your dreaming buddy Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Just whose supposed to see your thread now? Theres just a few people up and we aren't interested in this "spamming". We come here to post about JonBenet. Thanks to your PLA threads your thread will be long gone before morning. So your talking to yourself. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Deep Shadow E-mail: Location: Denver Area Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 This spamming is comming from a website established by the PLA out of Oregon. www.peak.org/~bueno Take a look at the source code. BUT DO NOT CLICK ON THE "JAMESON CHILI PEPPER." That action creates another useless thread here. Simple solution. Send an e-mail to Postmaster@peak.org like many of us are doing here. It will assure that this PLA website will be taken DOWN! Then, they will have one less ISP wherein they can pursue their idiotic vandalism of our discussion group. Don't get angry with them, GET EVEN! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Oh, I don't know E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Just came to the forum and noticed from the time postings that there hasn't been a spam post in 50 minutes. Maybe it's working. -------------------------------------------------------- http://www.peak.org/~bueno/ is RBCP Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective P E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Our old friend -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Awwww Man! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 They've had enough pub already! cheesus wiz! newbies! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: PLA warning! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Please avoid this c**p like you would the plague? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp, your old pal E-mail: bueno@peak.org Location: albany, i swear Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Mr Sechrest from peak.org forwarded me this letter. I broke out in a cold sweat when i saw it and started crying, then i changed the peak page: ------- Forwarded Message Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:45:28 -0400 Subject: Abuse by one of your members From: JHutch5121@aol.com To: webgroup@peak.org Dear sirs, You are currently hosting a web page at http://www.peak.org/~bueno registered to a Mike Ockurts. This page contains code, when the icon is clicked, to force a post to a web discussion board hosted by the Boulder News. Its purpose is to harass and inundate the Boulder News discussion forum by having innocent web surfers click on the link. This tactic has been used before by one or individuals who call themselves the PLA (Phone Losers of America) to harass the BNForum. They have put up similar pages on other servers, which were removed by the hosting ISP's when informed. It is their way to get around the BN's limitations on posting based on source IP address, a restriction put in place to address previous attacks on the BN Forum by the PLA. I request that PEAK, inc. remove this page, and ensure the user does not create another such page. The page is obviously in violation of the Policy Statement your web site has regarding appropriate use. Thank You Jerold Hutchinson jhutch5121@aol.com ------- End of Forwarded Message Unfortunately for us, Jerold doesn't have his own web page, gosh darn it all to heck and back. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: big jer E-mail: you Location: know Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 rbcp may have taken down that peak.org page, but I doubt the spam will stop. I'm sure they have more pages set up to do the exact same thing. This will never end. I think we should just all head over to the joshua-7 board since he actually seems to care about this stuff and responds to our complaints. Oh, and those of you trashing PLA's board - I hope you know you're just generating more traffic here. It's an endless circle. I'm not playing their game anymore. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Questioner E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 One of life's mysteries: Why are people like Mother Theresa and Princess Diana dead, and people like PLA morons still alive? For the hard-of-understanding, let me put it another way: Why is it that people who devote the hours in their days to making the world a better place are dead, while people who devote the hours in their days to making people upset are alive? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Oh my! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 What a fussy, self-important little rooster with a tiny chili pepper between its scrawny-ass, m***f***ing legs rbcp is.Oh dear. Oh my. What ever shall we do, ladies? Let us all run in circles before this magnificent specimen of testosterone greatness and flap our wings in awe. Oh my. Oh dear. Oh ROFLMAO! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Questioner E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Why are you alive? You aren't really living though, since you spend 24 hours a day researching this crime and posting about it. You have to be in a mental ward to devote so much time to this. You Questioner, are repulsive. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To To Questioner E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Lay an egg. You'll feel better. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Hmmmm E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Am I the only one who has noticed that Peak Org. is in Oregon and Tannest lives in Oregon? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Jerold E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Sorry RBCP, I do have a web page, just not there. :) Also to Hmmmm, I did notice that too. Don't know if there is a connection, but I hate coincidences. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Hmmmm... E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 It's starting to sound as though tannest is very influential and well tenacled in the computer world. She is now known to be linked to several ISPs in the US. Could she also have ties to Access Graphics? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: This site E-mail: no Location: longer exists Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Let it die? Please? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Agree with Questioner E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 The rest of these uglies need to die trying to lay a square egg from a round asshole. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Any Word Yet? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Did LogicBox get the package Detective X promised to send to him via Mr. Tuana at Fremont High? Did Tannest receive her promised package at BCDC where she is (was?) employed? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: There was no package E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Just idle threats. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Guess What E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 They're back. I just saw a new spam thread. -------------------------------------------------------- Let's clear some PLA stuff up Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Fed up guy E-mail: Location: Las Vegas, NV Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 I would just like to clear up a few things. Point 1: PLA is the Phone Losers Of America. That is a magazine that has been around for quite some time that contains a few funny articles about telephony and computer related fraud. It is humor. It is also discontinued by the editor RedBoxChiliPepper. RBCP is a bored 20 something that had nothing better to do with his life than make crank calls and write a silly ass e-zine. Then the punk ass loser got married had a kid. End of story. Point 2: I sincerely doubt that RBCP would have anything to do with the actual posts here. My guess is that immature little twits like LogicBox and Tannest are so friggin pathetic that they post in the name of a PLA group that doesn't exist. Really sad when you think about it. These two people must be total idiots to spend so much time doing this. By now even more morons have joined them and post occasionally using the PLA brand. Blah. The PLA was a pathetic zine and they want to be part of it. Now that is sad. Point 3: It takes idiots like these spam posters to point out how friggin sick you people are for entertaining yourself with the death of a little girl. What kind of perverts obsess over a dead child? What the hell is wrong with you people? Kids have to tell you how sick you are by spamming your board and then to make matters worse you DEFEND yourselves. Your no better than necrophiliacs. Why don't you dig up the body and give it an autopsy junior detectives? Man I can't say enough how horrid and disgusting you people are. If you are REALLY this set on bringing that little girl justice get your asses in gear and protest in front of your City Hall and make your voices heard EVERYDAY until justice is served. Get off your lazy butts and do something. I know you won't! How do I know? Because this is all just a sick perverted entertainment for you. Point 4: This is a board set up to assist in the stalking of a dead child and her family. It is provided by the Boulder News to help keep interest and entertainment in this website. I think that the Boulder News is displaying horrible taste to keep this board operating especially considering the state it is in. If they had any sense at all they would close this discussion board down. A note to the owners of the Daily Camera: Take a look at this board will you. Is this how you want to be known? A haven to misfit kids and necrophiliacs. Granted all publicity is good publicity, but come on! This is really distasteful. Your logo is proudly(?) displayed above all this junk and this is how I shall always remember the BoulderNews a service of the Daily Camera! Finally I will answer some questions before they are asked. I don't follow the forum I just stumbled across a page that linked me here and I had some spare time. I didn't put my real name or e-mail address because I am not a moron. I see how some people on this forum use e-mail information. OK. I hope you all consider this message and understand my points. You are all part of a horrid display of the human desire to gawk at others misfortune. Fed up. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Hard Hat E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 there is some truth in that post. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective L E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 You don't follow this forum, but you have read enough to see how email addresses are used? Make up your mind there buddy. rbcp has posted here many times. Regardless of what you seriously doubt. He has hosted several webpages that spam this forum directly. Logic and tannest started it, but rbcp was right there with them. RBCP started the auto spam project with his PLA site on kracked.com. We had his auto spammer removed by the kracked.com webmaster. Of course, the auto spammer just moved to tripod, geocites, angelfire, peak.org, anywhere they can find a free page to setup. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Nitpickers, Inc. E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Congratulations on spelling "necrophiliac" correctly. However, you used too many line breaks. There should be a hyphen between computer and related. You get the picture. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Hi E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 That was a really long post. All about the PLA and such. Thanks for caring about us so much. It means alot that you wanted to reach out. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Fed Up E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Hey there moron. That's a kid using RBCP's name. Do you seriously think that RBCP is the only one that edits that page? Look at the style now. RBCP doesnt have enough talent to do shit like that. He probably uses Hot Dog Pro. I saw his crappy ass site months ago and it wasn't that neat. As far as following this board I clicked around and read the silly ass tally page and some archives to catch up. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: *CLAP* *CLAP* *CLAP* E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Finally someone did some research, I'm proud of you, fed up, you got some information that none fo them could have ever gotten... PLA does stand for Phone Losers of America, and no, there isn't a group called that, but you are wrong on several points. 1) rbcp has been involved in this 2) rbcp DID make the links, and if you don't believe he has the talent, go to the new page 3) They are fucking morons which is what we've been trying to get accross for a long time Now, we are not morons wanting to be part of "the PLA", we have just chosen to label ourselves as that, so these "necrophiliacs"(I personally think you're right) wouldn't get too confused... *CLAP* *CLAP* *CLAP* -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Yawn E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Now which one of these two groups is this the sickest. Clap Clap Clap. PLA wannabes win hands down. Clap Clap Clap -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: oh who cares? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Someone said it before you, someone will say it again. We all have our opinions, and frankly I'm tired of sharing mine. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To The Idot Who Started This Thread E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 I have to agree with you that the followers of this forum who spend hours and hours of their days and nights rehashing and researching this case are disgusting and perverse. But it's hard to respect you as this is a copy and pasted line from your post..... "Your no better than necrophiliacs." You need to figure this your/you're thing out eventually. You give yourself away every time. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: strange E-mail: Location: NC Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 I guess my question if this....If this is a waste of time to you, why don't you go elsewhere in the web? I mean , it's a huge place, why stay here and slam people that you don't even know?? If you don't like it just go away. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: PLA minions post more SILLINESS E-mail: NOT FOR "FED UP" in Las Vegas Location: Setting the record straight! Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Despite what the "PLA" says it isn't a 'zine. The "PLA" is a criminal cartel. Their website is a domain with the extension "org." That PROVES that they are an ORGANIZATION. Mainly bent on credit card fraud, phone company fraud, and screwing up the Internet discussion groups and Irc as well. They delight in criminal activities. Tannest and LogicBox are central in the destruction of this discussion board. Of course, we cannot forget the founder of this self-professed cyber-terrorism group. RBCP. He has minions like Ryan Scott (aka Logicbox) and Tannest (aka Samantha Kay Dahl Stack) working for him. Take a look around. They will continue to DESTROY the threads here UNTIL they are STOPPED! There is plenty of information here today to at least STOP Logicbox. He has to answer to his high school principal at Fremont High. The other slackers will get theirs soon. The veterans of this discussion group are SICK and TIRED of their cyber-vandalism and WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY LONGER! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Above Poster E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 You sound like you are on crack. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: PLA E-mail: a criminal Location: cartel??? Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Thanks for the laugh!!! This really is a haven for sickos. Stupid kids and sick old men. nitpicking old broads and the lonely shut ins. Sad life we have here. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: PLA'ers ridicule the FACTS of the MATTER E-mail: THE PLA IS GOING DOWN! Location: Everywhere in the USA Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 It's really transparent with the PLA minions here. They REALLY can't stand to see ANYTHING posted about them which is true! Never a reasoned refutation of facts. Always, an insult. Poor Logicbox. He has to answer to Mr. Tuana on Wednesday. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To the poster SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Bravo Bravo Bravo You have said what we all feel. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: TOO LATE FOR LOGICBOX! E-mail: NO EXCUSES FOR HIM, NOW! Location: HIS CRIMES WON'T PAY! Expulsion pending? Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 All please be advised that a copy of the PLA issue of April 6th, 1997 has been forwarded to Mr. Pete Tuana, Principal of Fremont High School in Sunnyvale, California. LogicBox posted his article as "Ramsey Forum Fun." Let's see him try to lie his way out of this! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: in the middle of ohio Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 I'll help you clear up one thing - yes, I'm actively involved in this forum. I don't do much posting myself, but I have to admit that it's a major ego boost to know that there's a discussion forum on a major newspaper's server that's sole purpose is to talk about ME. I come here everyday to read up on myself and see what all the new rumors are. Wouldn't you feel honored if a few hundred people were obsessed with you and talked about you everyday on a discussion board? Judging by the number of posts, I seem to be more important than that little JonBenet bitch, too. Yippie! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BARF E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 That's not RBCP. That's Tannest or Havok or Spessa or someone else. RBCP USED to come here but is bored with this now. Maybe some of you new PLAyers could take a hint and get bored. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: ohio Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Why do you have trouble believing I'm me? Send me e-mail and I'll verify it. What's the big deal? Jesus, you people are so paranoid. Wonder what could have caused that.. -------------------------------------------------------- Need Update From Det. X !!!! Return to the Ramsey forum index page --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Questioner E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 What is happening with Logic Box and Tannest? Did they receive special packages today? What was in the packages? Who is Logic Box? Who is Tannest? Where does LB live? We need more information, please. Your information/exposure quieted the threads before, so please, tell all!!! ------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Detective X E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 I am going to bed for the night right after I type this. I am a Private Investigator in real life. Sometimes I have control of my hours and sometimes I don't. I got a call at 4:00 a.m and have been gone for the last 15 hours. Came home and ate dinner and that's it for me today. Before you all start laughing - that's the reason I didn't tell you before this. This forum doesn't take too kindly to anyone telling them what they do in real life. The last time this happened I had my wife tell you I was sick. I wasn't sick. I was just on assignment. This time I decided to come clean. Its not important if you believe me. I live my life and I know what I do. Due to my change in plans today the packages did not go out. I will not say anymore on that subject. LogicBox lives in Sunnyvale, California. I revealed that last night. Someone else also revealed it. LogicBox is a student. He's 17 and lives at home. He goes to Fremont H.S. in Sunnyvale. This is it for me tonight - sorry for the disappointment. Right now sleep seems more of a necessity than BNF hackers. I will be back. That you can count on. ---------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Yawn E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Don't you ever get tired of this? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Questioner E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Thanks, Detective X! Wish I knew Logic Box's real name, or his parents' names. Anyone have a clue? ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: lurker E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Ryan Scott --------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Ah, but E-mail: No problem Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 TO: Questioner LogicBoy's real name is Ryan Scott. He lives in Sunnyvale, CA and attends Fremont H.S. He was born in 1980. I have his DOB somewhere. I'll look. ----------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To: Questioner E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 LogicBox=Ryan Scott Website=www.geocities.com/Times Square/Realm/4432 High School=Fremont High School 1279 Sunnyvale-Saratoga Road, Sunnyvale, California 94087 Phone Number 408.522.2400 Fremont High School has a HP Apollo 9000/400 Series Unix system with 30 workstations. More information regarding this cyber-criminal to be posted soon. ----------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: TO: Questioner E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Det. X told us Logicbox's name last night. It's Ryan Scott. For real. ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: Questioner E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 PLEASE tell me that Detective X's "surprise" package to our fair-haired, pug-nosed boy, LogicBox, and the middle-aged seductress Tannest is a pile of legal papers. God I hope they have to pay for messing this forum up for so long. I feel sort of bad for Ryan Scott. I went to Freemont H.S. homepage, and looked under students & he had a page. All it was was weird-o geeky dungeons & dragons type of fantasy game stuff. I hope that kid is able to use the obviously brilliant gifts he has for something good someday. This sad old world needs those smart kids, but right now an awful lot of them seem mighty messed-up. ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: Additional Information for All to pursue E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 URL for Fremont High School website: http://www.fhs.fuhsd.org Ryan Scott is listed under "Student, Faculty, and Alumni Links." Link to his geocities.com website. Principal: Pete Tuana (Ph. # 408.522.2401) We can be sure that Mr. Tuana would be NOT be pleased with Ryan Scott's extracurricular activities on the Internet. A few telephone calls to Mr. Tuana might prove useful to restore the utility of this discussion group. ------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Jaki E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Is this a forum of children tracking children? I hope so, it sounds like stalking. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To LogicBox E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 If I were you, I would print up the last few nights postings on this forum and show them to your principal. I would then ask him to consult the newspaper that provides this forum and insist they provide him with the IP addresses logged for the postings that reveal your personal information, that of your school's, and his own. Print up the terms of agreement for using this forum and demand they honor it by providing the names of those stalking you. If you are in fact a minor this will increase the seriousness of what they are doing to you. Good Luck. ----------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Sorry PLA fear-monger! E-mail: Another example of PLA intimidation Location: You will get yours soon! Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Let's hope that LogicBox confesses to Mr. Tuana regarding his cyber-vandalism. EVERYTHING posted about Fremont High School is in the public domain. Nobody here considers Ryan Scott a member of this forum. You just don't have a case against ANYONE who is TRYING to get the chief cyber-vandal OUT OF HERE! ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: LOL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Yeah lets see Logicbox go to his principal and tell him to open up this can of worms. Logicbox would be opening Pandora's Box. Logicbox has been very ugly to people here. He has done some spiteful things to some people. I know their names and I know how to reach them. Go ahead Logicbox. Throw the first stone. ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: To LogicBox E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Do not let them deter you, report this. What they are doing to you is clearly against the stated rules of this forum and you have dates and times of posts that can be easily traced. ------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To LOL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 How do you know with certainty what or who has done anything? -------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To A Question E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 You have a very sick mind. ------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Uh, Danny E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 Why do you feel the need to repost over and over again your thread on Haddon? We've already seen it four times, not including the original post. Enough already! To: LogicBoy's Champion And why do you feel the need to defend this chump? Are you a rep from the ACLU looking for clients? I have oodles of his disruptive and filthy posts. I suggest you begin in the April archives before you continue to stick up for your boy wonder. ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: LogicBox COPS OUT? E-mail: Good News for the BNF! Location: ROTFL Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 This would be just great. Ryan Scott WILL be called into Mr. Tuana's office. Mr. Tuana asks what is with all of the complaints that I have recieved about your behavior. Ryan Scott cries and screams about how his "privacy" has been violated. Mr. Tuana says--"I have bad complaints about what you have been doing to a discussion group regarding the murder of a little girl." Ryan Scott responds with "It was just harmless fun at first." "I saw a discussion group. And, it WAS about the murder of a little girl in Colorado. I couldn't help myself, Mr. Tuana. I was bored, and I thought it might be fun to mess up their discussion board." Mr.Tuana responds with "You have disgraced Fremont High School with your abuse of the Internet." Guess what? "I am calling your parents and relating alll of the complaints that I recieved today. Furthermore, you will NOT have access to ANY of the 30 workstations here. Until you graduate next year. One more complaint from people using the Internet and you will be suspended. Two complaints in my ears will mean expulsion for you. Try to find a good university to accept you with a BAD reccomdendation from me." Leave my office and don't associate yourself with the PLA. ---------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Deep Shadow E-mail: Location: Denver Area Posted on: Tuesday September 16, 1997 That is a GREAT scenario, and Ryan Scott deserves it for being the original vandal of the threads here MONTHS ago. Mr. Tuana will NOT appreciate the SHAME that Ryan Scott has brought to Fremont High School. Maybe Ryan can get a low-paying job flipping burgers in Sunnyvale. And, then again, without a endorsement from a high school principal; he will most likely continue to sponge off of his clueless parents. ----------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Had Enough E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 This forum has turned into a virtual cesspool. There is no demarcation now between the good guys and the bad guys. Deep Shadow, I have always admired your posts and enjoyed your take on things concerning this case. But your last post has proven to me that this situation has finally eroded to the point even the good posters have turned vile and dangerous. It sounds like it's time for you to leave the forum. Your intents here are not the JonBenet case, you have become a bounty hunter and it's not pretty. None the less, I will not return to these threads, it makes me ill. ---------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To: Had Enough E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday September 17, 1997 Please retain a good physician for your illness. It looks like you DON'T care about the vandalism that has been going on for MONTHS. Of course, NOT. I have a hat, you don't. You sound like a PLA shill. Nobody will believe anything else. 'Bye to you!