ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ ISSUE 001 - BOULDER NEWS FRENZY - ISSUE 001 ³ ³ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄij ³ Released on August 20th, 1997 ³ ³ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄij ³ The publishers of this newsletter take no responsibility for the use of ³ ³ any information printed and do not encourage others to bother the BNF. ³ ³ This is intended to document the events on the BNF only, nothing more. ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄhttp://www.bouldernews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?RamseyÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ For those who haven't actually heard of the Boulder News Forum, it's a service provided by the Daily Camera in Boulder, Colorado and is intended to talk current events. For the past 8 months now, the main "current event" has been investigation into the murder of JonBenet Ramsey, the 5-year-old beauty queen who was murdered in her home. Months after the discussion was started, the forum was invaded by a group referring to themselves as the PLA - or the Phone Losers of America who posted alot of nonsense, attacked others' opinions, pretended to be other regular posters by using their names and generally made the forum hell. This newsletter/zine/publication will attempt to archive most of the harassment endured over the past six months and maybe even shed some light as to why the Ramsey Forum was chosen as their playground. We'll start with an article taken from the Phone Losers of America zine, written by Logic Box back when the whole thing started. ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ Ramsey Forum Fun - Logic Box ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ Most of you have probably heard about the six-year-old child beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey who was molested and murdered recently in Colorado (and if you haven't, well then you're retarded, ok?). While searching the World Wide Web one day, we stumbled upon a WWW message board created by Boulder News in Colorado which was intended as a means of communication for those who were interested in the JonBenet Ramsey case. Now, we all felt really bad for that girl when we heard she had been murdered, and in no way did we mean any disrespect toward JonBenet Ramsey herself, but we just thought it would be kind of fun to trash their forum. I think me, Tannest, RBCP, and Colleen Card are mostly responsible for it, along with several #rock idiots. We started off just arguing against anything and everything that people posted to the forum, and it was funny to read all their half-witted replies to our rants (the forum is mostly dominated by a bunch of 80-year-old women who have no computer experience whatsoever). Later on, we thought it would be fun to start impersonating people on the forum and posting as them, and we managed to drive several regulars off the forum this way. Later on, we told RBCP about it and he thought it was pretty funny too, so him and Colleen started posting on it. He used the name ErikB and posted all kinds of LOD/MOD war t-shirt ads on it, then an ad for the new JonBenet Ramsey murder t-shirts which really riled up a few folks. By this time the forum was just completely fucked, but we were having too much fun to stop. Tannest decided to search the web for lots of odd and perverted things, and started posting all kinds of weird shit to the forum. Desperate to get the hell away from us, the forum regulars decided to turn to IRC for their Ramsey-talk, figuring that they could just "kick the hackers off." This proved to be rather difficult for them, as they experienced constant harassment from all the wonderful #rock regulars. Thanks to me, they now get extremely paranoid when anyone with a hostmask located in Santa Clara, CA enters the channel. Fucking morons. Through all of this, one especially crazed forum regular who calls herself Teacher has refused to be driven away from the board. In spite of this, she has been driven insane by our mad posting frenzies and nonstop attacks against her. While we haven't been able to track her down, we have gathered that her first name is Jayne and that she is a librarian. We've also completely ruined her previously good reputation on the forum by constantly impersonating her and using her handle to slander the rest of the morons who post there. Recently, RBCP received e-mail from a Ramsey forum regular who was curious just as to what the hell the PLA is and why they have been doing to this message board (we posted lots of PLA advertisements and other strange things). The e-mail read: "I find it hard to believe this person is PLA, they lack your obvious comedic brilliance. I suppose they are just PLA wannabes. Sorry if I intruded on your day with a foolish question but you were the first one listed on the e-mail page." Regards, Hominid While it is true that a lot of the posts some of us made were utterly stupid and lacked creativity, much thought was put into several of the posts. This letter and its writer annoyed RBCP, so he sent the following reply: "Hahaha, actually I'm one of the people intruding on the Ramsey board. You might remember me as erikb, the t-shirt salesman. No offense intended but we had a lot of fun stirring up shit there. I haven't posted anything in about three weeks now but I'm sure that others are still at it. If you want to yell at them, go into irc.dal.net's #rock." See ya, RBCP Soon after this reply was sent, a post appeared on the forum that read "I'm so glad to hear that Peak.org is pulling the plug on Mike Ockurts." Mike Ockurts is the fake name that RBCP used for his account at Peak. This freaked Colleen out and annoyed RBCP even more, so he posted the following snide message to the forum: "Is this what you consider to be detective work? Don't jump the gun just to be the first, put some effort into it and you can really find out who I am. It's not that hard, I'm not exactly 'not listed.' But the question is, what do you suppose you can do once you find me? Have fun!" They haven't made anymore attempts to try to stop us yet, other than a couple of stupid and incredibly inaccurate tries to guess RBCP's real name. We don't post to the forum as much as we used to, but there really isn't a need to since it's been invaded by a zillion other people just like us. They still get freaked out when I come to their channel and sit for hours without saying anything, and I usually get kickbanned on sight because my hostmask contains the words "Santa Clara." That about wraps up our antics on the Ramsey forum so far. The forum is located at http://www.bouldernews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?Ramsey if you want to check out the latest assortment of insane postings. Their IRC channel, #cybersleuths, can be found on the NewNet IRC network (irc.aohell.org, irc.tscnet.com, or irc.eskimo.com). Go there and tell Jameson that the PLA says hi. Let us know if you experience anything strange or interesting with these weird people. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- ---------END OF ARTICLE---------------------- --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- But that was far from the end. Logic's article was written way back in April and so much has happened since then. After awhile the fun was dying down in the forum, so we thought it'd be fun to spark some new interest in PLA and see what would happen if they posted the URL to PLA's webpage and mention that "they even have their own web board we could trash!!" The response ended up rather large, with people threatening us with lawsuits and threatening to come to Ohio to rip off RBCP's arms and threatening to... well, just read for yourself and see. The format of the posts is a little screwed up because the editors here at Peachey Inc. are too lazy to fix them. -------------------------------------------------------- Could someone please explain what the PLA is and how they fit in? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Grace E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday August 08, 1997 For several months I have read this forum, never posting. I see references to PLA quite a bit. What is it? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Anon E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday August 08, 1997 Grace, you have made a big mistake. Now that you have spoken of the PLA agents have been dispatched to your house. They will be there shortly. Cooperate. DO what they tell you. You have been warned. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jameson ò¿ó E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday August 08, 1997 PLA is Phone Losers of America. They are a group of people who have figured out how to steal phone service - specificly long distance, for free. I don't know if they are into the cell-phone stuff or not. They are supposedly involved in one man's theory of this murder - college kids, JAR and his friends - I won't pretend to see any sense in the connection he made. I usually scroll by. That's the PLA in a nutshell. Maybe someone else will give you a better explanation. This is all I got from following the case for 7 months. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: DejaOoze E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday August 08, 1997 Hey, you know, the PLA, they called just the other day, tried to get me to switch from AT&T. Thought it was weird when they didn't need my credit card number, they already had it. But Jameson, always the diplomat, called Lame-art's delusions a theory. Me? The ramblings of the deeply deranged. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Q E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday August 08, 1997 kids, The PLA is not an organization! PLA describes people who buy hotwiring gadgets at Radio Shack and use the tools for stealing long distance telephone service. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Dino Allsman E-mail: dino@cordless.com Location: east alton, illinois Posted on: Friday August 08, 1997 I'll tell you who the mother fucking cocksuckers are. They got into my phonelines and got the dicklicks at the cellayer office really pissed off at me. I think i know who the head of PLA is too. Mother fucker is gonna die when i finish with him. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: The Real Truth E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday August 08, 1997 The PLA is an underground political party. VOTE PLA IN 2000!!!!!! "A Redbox in Every Home!" -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Spessa E-mail: I don't like you Location: hell Posted on: Friday August 08, 1997 I love how you people have turned the craziest media hype of a childs death into a PLA discussion. It just goes to show that even an exploited child's demise is not safe from the jurisdiction of the PLA. If Jon-Benet were around right now, she'd have her application in to join. I have a mental picture of her up in heaven (although I'm an atheist)Red Boxing on all of Gods pay phones. As for the rest of you sick bastards--pay close attention to your phone bills.... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jameson ò¿ó E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday August 08, 1997 Don't blame US for involving the PLA in the discussion. This goes back a long time - when a theory involving the PLA came into play. No one here took it serious, but the initials keep coming up - over and over. Someone asked why, and a few of us attempted to answer. No big deal. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: wrong E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday August 08, 1997 PLA=Pirate liberation assoc. supporting software piracy since 1872 -------------------------------------------------------- JonBenet Ramsey Cartoon Show Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: PLA Cartoons Inc. E-mail: cartoonyfruit@kracked.com Location: http://pla.kracked.com/ Posted on: Saturday August 09, 1997 We here at PLA Inc. have decided to bring you a brand-spanking new series of JonBenet Ramsey cartoons, set to air this fall on the up-and-coming PLA-TV network!!@#!~#~! Join the heroic Jameson as she searches high and low for the killer, stopping every 2 minutes to check out the hot new discussions as they develop on the JonBenet Ramsey board, AND on her favorite awesome new hangout, the PLA message board. In the first episode, Jameson tries to overcome her fear of snakes in an episode reminiscent of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and infiltrates PLA Headquarters to find clues as to the killer's identity@!#@! Stay tuned for more info, folks!@##@!# -------------------------------------------------------- http://pla.kracked.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.htm Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: New Ramsey Discussion Board E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday August 10, 1997 I hear Mary Hedman/Fruithead also slept with rbcp the founder of the PLA. I saw the avi of her doing him, she's pretty kinky. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Wondering E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday August 10, 1997 Since we can attach images to our posts, I was wondering if it is possible to attach AVI files also. That way we can all see Hedman and the PLA guy doing it. Please attach the file. Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ??? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday August 10, 1997 How do you go about attaching an image to these messages? [Okay, this is where it gets good. One day a few of the PLAers got together on IRC as usual and designed a very professional looking web page that was a total parody of the Ramsey forum, uploaded it to a Tripod account and posted it on the Ramsey forum several times. The page contained general information about the Ramsey forum, a form that posted annoying messages directly to the real Forum and personal information on one of the long-time posters - Jameson. This especially seemed to anger one old lady who decided to call herself 31373. ] -------------------------------------------------------- 31373 demands PLA take ~forumterror down Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Take the page down. You have until the end of the business day today. If it is not down by 5pm EDT, steps will be taken to bring it down, and to make sure those people who slandered us are punished. The page is a criminal act of defamation, slander, and copyright violation. Take it down, or go down with it!!!!!!!!! Eric, you better see to it that this page is down today. [Eric is who they figured RBCP to be because of his posts several months ago as Erikb, the t-shirt salesman. ] -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: these idiots Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 are too stupid to understand my hat! Normally, hackers use a term: 31337 which spells ELEET (3's are E's and the 7 is a T) They are too stupid to know that elite is spelled 31373!!!!!!! That's ELITE, for those children hacker wannabes who don't get it. TAKE ~forumterror DOWN!!!!!!!! Or pay -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Simply E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 NO Today the page is being submitted to several other sites. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Submit away mr. Simply! Charges will be filed tomorrow against any ISP that runs this illegal page. It's amazing what some pissed off 80 yr old women can do. We know all sorts of people. We weren't born yesterday. And we have $$$$$. You are fighting a losing battle. Lawyers and money always win battles like this. Don't say I didn't give you a chance. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: harass E-mail: yourb@ards Location: 3l337 land Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 The change of life hits 31373 as she strives to be as el33t as the youth of today. All you're proving is that you're a sick misfit of your generation, you repulsive boomer. That board may not be at ~forumterror forever but it WILL be up SOMEWHERE, untill you spend your last living breath working to take it down. We've always been able to move, change our identities, start over somewhere else, CAN YOU DO THAT? YOU CAN FIGHT AGAINST US FOREVER AS WHO YOU ARE? We will never give up, and as soon as you find us, we will be someone new. BUT YOU WILL ALWAYS BE WHO YOU ARE!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: to eric Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 So pack up your car and uhaul trailer and hit the road again Eric. Your travel log is very informative. You confess to several federal crimes and you give your location and movements for the last few years. That was a BRIGHT idea, that one was. Yessir, you are one smart cookie there Eric. Nobody could ever possibly find you. hahahahahahahahaha Give it up children, you are out hacked, phreaked, phracked, red boxed, blueboxed, beige boxed, and out CLASSED. Just take the page down and move on, so we can get the BNF back to normal. If you do that, you might have a slim chance of not being prosecuted for slander, defamation, and copyright infringment. P.S. I would remove all of your incriminating data on your websites too, but that's your choice. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To 31373 E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 You are going down!!! [By this time, the Ramsey board was being flooded not by the PLA, but by 31373 who would post all this legal mumbo-jumbo several times in a row and the posts concerning JonBenet would kinda get lost in all the mess. People were beginning to get more pissed at 31373 for provoking the PLA than they were at the PLA. ] -------------------------------------------------------- STOP 31373 NOW!!!! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Concerned Reader E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 I know his/her heart is in the right place, but it's making things worse. Please do not provoke the PLA further. I know what they can do! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 I really appologize for all of the garbage posts to and from the PLA. I've just had about enough harrassment from them and it *will* stop. I was hacking vax boxes before they were born, and they need to be taught a lesson. WE CAN FIGHT BACK!!! I also know what they can do. And I know WHAT WE CAN DO! Don't take it! Email every admin at every ISP they are on. Complain, and have them kicked off. Their ISP's get sick of hearing all of the complaints from these jerks on dalnet. I will stop when I see a post from Eric, RBCP, Logic Box, Tannest, or Colleen, or all of the above, appologizing for disrupting the BNF, and promising not to ever come here again. They can stop it if they want. The ball is in their court. If they come back with more harrassment, we bring out the big guns. They have NO idea who they screwed with this time. And they will regret it, as GOD is my witness. I'll back off and see what their response is now. It's their move. [Ooooooo, scary. Anyway, here's a little sample of what the main page on the Ramsey Forum looked like. Note that there's more posts concerning the PLA than there are concerning JBR. ] [Welcome to BoulderNews] -------------------------------------------------------- This forum is intended for anyone wishing to voice their concerns and thoughts regarding the JonBenet Ramsey investigation Read and add to current discussions: * 31373 demands PLA take ~forumterror down (7 posts, last on Aug 11) * Eqnuirer aug 19 repost (4 posts, last on Aug 11) * GLOBE aug 19 repost (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * YES FINALLY (9 posts, last on Aug 11) * monday thread #5 (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * monday thread #1 (9 posts, last on Aug 11) * STOP 31373 NOW!!!! (2 posts, last on Aug 11) * Can we please get the PLA and 31373 To Stop??? (7 posts, last on Aug 11) * RBCP documents his crimes -TRAVEL URL (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * RBCP documents his crimes on this URL (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * 1 (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * Here is a link to Colleen and Logic Box --) URL (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * Here is a link to Colleen and Logic Box --) URL (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * RBCB is the mastermind behind BNF harrassment -bac@bright.net (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * RBCB is the mastermind behind BNF harrassment -bac@bright.net (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * RBCP -http://www.bright.net/~bac/ Alex Carbon in Austin (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * RBCP -http://www.bright.net/~bac/ Alex Carbon in Austin (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * RBCP is Alex Carbon -http://www.bright.net/~bac/ (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * RBCP is Alex Carbon -http://www.bright.net/~bac/ (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * RBCP is Alex Carbon -http://www.bright.net/~bac/ (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * RBCP is Alex Carbon -http://www.bright.net/~bac/ (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * I killed her (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * 31373 Exposes PLA plan to harrass BNF --) URL (3 posts, last on Aug 11) * 31373 Exposes PLA plan to harrass BNF --) URL (1 post, posted on Aug 11) * Check the history of PLA harrassment at this URL (2 posts, last on Aug 11) * http://members.tripod.com/~forumterror/ (2 posts, last on Aug 11) * (2 posts, last on Aug 11) [What was so funny is that we were the ones who posted the URL to PLA in the first place so who knows why she thinks she "Exposed the PLA's plan." ] -------------------------------------------------------- RBCP documents his crimes -TRAVEL URL Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Here's a great one: http://www.bright.net/~bac/travels.htm RBCP documents his travels and CRIMES all over the country for a period of several years. This information is being forwarded to authorities in Austin and Boulder. How stupid can you be? Some of his crimes have no statute of limitations so he can still be convicted!!!!! He confesses to stealing thousands of $$$$$$ on this webpage. What an idiot!!!!! http://www.bright.net/~bac/travels.htm -------------------------------------------------------- Here is a link to Colleen and Logic Box --) URL Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Here is Colleen's page with a link to Logic Box's homepage: http://www.bright.net/~bac/colleen.htm Logic Box is at: http://logic.dynamik.com/ He has his own domain name. The provider of his domain would love to hear about his illegal actions of online harrassment and stalking. They called Jameson at home early in the morning yesterday and have a log of the phone call on the main PLA page. -------------------------------------------------------- RBCB is the mastermind behind BNF harrassment -bac@bright.net Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 RedBoxChiliPeppers - RBCP is the mastermind behind the PLA ZINE and the PLA's harrassment of the Boulder News Forum. His admin at bright.net would love to hear more complaints about Alex and Colleen. Send your complaints to support@bright.net - send those url examples of his handy work here on the BNF. Now lets post Alex and Colleen's home phone number like they did Jameson. Or better yet, maybe some of our kind forum posters in Austin can pay Alex a little visit in person. [Even though she knew that RBCP used bright.net as an ISP, she still hadn't figured out that he didn't live in Austin, Texas and that bright.net was based only in Ohio. ] -------------------------------------------------------- RBCP is Alex Carbon -http://www.bright.net/~bac/ Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Here is RBCP's homepage: http://www.bright.net/~bac/ See his picture, and that of his homely wife Colleen. It's a shame that their beautiful child has to have jerks for parents. He has links to the PLA main page which has a link to BNF! BUSTED ALEX!!!!! The account is under the name of Alex Carbon [Oh shit! Busted for having a link to a page which has a link to another page!#&!#% What was he thinking?? ] -------------------------------------------------------- 31373 Exposes PLA plan to harrass BNF --) URL Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Now the PLA is starting to squirm. Their own discussion forum has been wasted. They are not even able to post on it anymore. Keep it up. Here is the URL that shows their intelligence and motive: http://pla.kracked.com/issue/pla045.htm#ramsey Check out the Ramsey forum link on their main page: http://pla.kracked.com/ And trash their forum like they have ours since April: http://pla.kracked.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.htm Carry on all you great 80 yr olds!!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 3 E-mail: 3 Location: 3 Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Great idea! Another idea is this: The news is slow and these weird jids intrigue me. I think whild we wait for more news we should analyze these strange kids. I have seen their site and it is a shrine to no brains or imagination. It would be an interesting phsycological(sp) study. Man the physco books folks. We've got some live worms to disect here!!! -------------------------------------------------------- TRIPOD to release names of ~forumterror creators Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 I am told that one of our regular BNF posters has talked to a Jason at Tripod.com and he is looking at the ~forumterror page now. Anyone who has been slandered and stalked by this group, please call Jason at 413-458-2265 and explain why we want to know who created the page. Once the page has been removed, prosecution can begin. I have most of the information you will need to give to your attorney. Jason has said that Tripod will cooperate with any legal issues brought about by this website and it's creators, the PLA. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: mystery E-mail: this is Location: a new hat-let me keep it please Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 I have a copy of the forumterror in my mail. I sent it to the Boulder news and it came back due to a typo. So ergo I resent it but still have a copy of the entire content and will keep it if anyone needs it. Lot of violations on it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Tripod Info E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 I have submitted and uploaded over a dozen pages to Tripod in the past year. I have never used any real information when doing this. Any correspondence I have had with them has been through an anonymous remailer. In plain English... Tripod has no clue who submitted that page. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Friend of LisaMarie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Here's the deal Lucille. Call off your PLA dogs by 5:00 p.m. Monday. That's it. No more. We want the Boulder Forum returned to it's original condition. We're tired of all of your stupid childish spiteful games on here. Get on top of this little request just as soon as you can, dear. And remember - keep laughing. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Don't forget Eric. He is RBCP, our old poster EricB. His email address is: bac@bright.net Bright net posted on the PLA forum saying what a great source of new accounts RBCP is. They claim to be supporting him and his illegal activities on the net. We shall see if that really was lynne from bright.net who posted. If so, bright.net will go down with RBCP (account is in the bogus name of Alex Carbon). If we take Eric down, we take the PLA down!!!! Read their pages... RBCP IS the PLA and started the ZINE which gives out addressees of helpless people so they can all attack them. Call bright.net admins today!!!! Tripod is already taken care of, but more calls wouldn't hurt. -------------------------------------------------------- 31373 finds RBCP wanted on outstanding warrants Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 http://pla.kracked.com/whospla.htm Read the history of the PLA, and how RBCP makes fun of the helpless people he harrasses and torments. He claims to be wanted on outstanding warrants in Ill, and Mo. (st louis) He currently lives in Celina Ohio with his live in girlfriend Colleen. Any outstanding warrants in Ohio???????????? His first name is Eric, he has an account on bright.net under the alias Alex Carbon. Donde esta mi carbon, por favor BRING ERIC AND COLLEEN DOWN AND PLA WILL FOLLOW! [The most amusing thing about 31373's "detective work" was that every single thing she posted as "new information on the PLA" was material copied directly out of the PLA issues, the PLA site and RBCP's personal home page. ] -------------------------------------------------------- 31373 says ~forumterror is GONE!!!! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Since tripod.com had to bring the ~forumterror page down, and the PLA did not bring it down volunarily, plans to charge Alex Carbon, RBCP with stalking, harrassment, slander, and felony phone tampering, are going ahead as scheduled. If he does have any outstanding warrants, this will bring them to light. This will probably be the last straw for the PLA, who have been terrorizing innocent people on the internet for 2 years. If it is not the last straw for the PLA, it certainly will be for Eric. His followers will have to go on without him. Let's have those mirror ~forumterror sites now PLA children!!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Give us 4 hours E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 And we will provide you with the new URLs for this page! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 ~forumterror is down. One of our little hacker wannabes at PLA posted the msg he got from TRIPOD.COM when they removed his forumterror page: Posted by big dave on August 11, 1997 at 15:23:47: The aforementioned pages contain material that Tripod would prefer not to host. Tripod has subsequently discontinued serving the pages and this notice should serve as cancellation of your Tripod membership. The following membership was cancelled: forumterror Sincerely, Membership Services I think i'm going to cry, this is just the saddest day of my life. So much for Tripod, huh gang??????? Post those mirror sites right away now, ok???? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To 31373 E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 I just looked and it is gone! Can you really make them stop this nonsense? You will be my hero forever if you can. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Dogbert E-mail: standingonthreelegspreparingtowhiz.com Location: A fire hydrant near your house Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 The only sure way to excise an inflamed asshole is to purge it with a Liquid Plummer and Drano enema. Anyone capable of vaporizing these less than human rectal cavities deserves our heartfelt thanks and appreciation. Well Done! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Okay, we've found out Eric's real phone number!! It's 419-586-4281!! So everyone should call him and tell him what you think of his harassment on our forum. Please help me take Eric down. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 That last post was NOT me. I have no idea who's phone number he posted there. But I doubt seriously if it is RBCP's phone number. That's ok PLA, go ahead, you are just making things worse. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373 Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Eric, when everyone calls that number and you answer, they'll know it's your real number. So you can try to pretend you're me by saying that the post wasn't by me, but until you get your number changed, expect some of the torment you've given us here. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Oink Master E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 is he accepting collect calls? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 I tried to call collect but no one answered, I'll keep trying though. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Dogbert E-mail: letsallgotoCeline,OhioandpullaLorenaBobbitonEric Location: TruckstoponI-80 Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Celine is actuall a short drive. How about a knock on the door from me and two of my friends from the University of Michigan football team. Let's see what the tensile strength of the human body is. Brutus will pull one way and Monster the other. Colleen, the squirrel-friend, can have either piece when they're done with this piece of slime! For a case of brewski's I believe they may willing to carve BNF into his forehead with dull butterknife. Let me know! [Ooooo, physical threats. And WE'RE the bad ones?] -------------------------------------------------------- Rogue poster was probably molested Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Astrologer E-mail: Location: 11:20AM PDT Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 I think it's apparent by now that our rogue poster was a victim of sexual abuse as a child. JonBenet's sexual abuse and murder case sets off a lot of psychological buttons out here in cyberspace. Perhaps these vitriolic, obscene and attention-seeking posts are the cries of a tortured psyche who has yet to come to terms with the horror he or she experienced. Projecting their anger on the Forum appears to be a release valve for their own unresolved, furious emotions. Forum rogue, I pity you, and I understand your misdirected anger. But if you'd only read the statistics and check out the wealth of Web resources on abuse, you'd learn that you are among a significant portion of our population. You are not alone in your pain, but you aren't doing anything constructive to heal your pain.Lashing out at this forum hasn't made you feel any better about yourself, has it? Your teachers probably labeled you an underachiever. Your parents and caseworker probably labeled you as incorrigible. But you know the TRUTH. Deal with it. Please get help, even if it's only discussing your past with a trusted friend. Acknowlegment is the only route that will set you free. Good luck. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to E-mail: rogue Location: poster Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 If this poster was molested, which I doubt, it is probably the only sex with another person he/she will ever have. School starts today here. Did mommy make our posters go today? [This is where the Boulder Forum's web master takes his first shot at making the forum more secure which was to add an extra line to each post - the poster's IP address. This actually seemed to calm things down for a couple of days but it turned out that the PLA was watching the forum and would Win-Nuke the IP's in all new posts. The IP "feature" disappeared the next day. ] -------------------------------------------------------- This whole mess was started by PLA for FUN - read the zine Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 IP Address: 208.137.185.136 Surf this whole site: http://pla.kracked.com/ Then send email to kracked.com and tell them their server contains illegal information. Phreaking, hacking, cracking, phracking, are ALL ILLEGAL. They do NOT want this garbage on their server, I guarantee it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Morticia E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 IP Address: 205.186.66.151 That's fine but I don't believe it. One of you is working for John Ramsey and making money off this and is using the rest of you. So who is it? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Kathleen E-mail: noway Location: earth Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 IP Address: 205.212.158.143 Don't you people see? Their intentions were to flood the Ramsey board to high hell & heaven which is what they did but now you people are flooding it yourselves. Why can't you just speak about the PLA in one or two threads instead of 500? Or go flood THEIR web board for a change. I can't help but think that maybe the PLA themselves are doing the flooding about PLA mostly. On another note, while hacking & phreaking are obviously illegal, talking about hacking & phreak are not. See, we live in America and it's okay to talk about bad things. What they're doing to this board requires no hacking & phreaking skills. They're simply tormenting people for a good laugh and I doubt the FBI will care about a silly little web board. I mean think about it - if flooding a web board were a crime, isn't the people on this forum committing the same crime? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Mission E-mail: Location: boulder Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 IP Address: 198.233.64.1 I'm just new to the board. Would somebody tell me what is the PLA? -------------------------------------------------------- The truth is at http://pla.kracked.com/viewpla.htm Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373 Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Don't let their childish games fool you. I am not behind anything, and that TRUTH will come out. Well, I am behind PLA - kicking their butts for bothering us. Go check out their website if you have any questions about who started this whole mess and why. Logic Box started it just as he states in issue #45 of the PLA ZINE: http://pla.kracked.com/viewpla.htm He started terrorizing BNF for FUN! And posted the URL and told the other PLA twirps to join in the harrassment of the BNF. Don't take my word for it. Go read the PLA zine. Read issue 45, and go to the header that says: Ramsey Forum Fun by Logic Box. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To 31373 E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 Okay, doll, but what about it? Who's going to clean this up? We want peace. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: kathleen E-mail: noway Location: earth Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 IP Address: 205.212.158.143 No shit. Before I could deal with their postings but it's only in the last 24 hours that this has gotten so out of hand. This 31373 person who wants to bring peace to the forum so badly is the one tearing it up the best. I'm all for him/her screwing with these PLA guys, but keep it in one thread, for god's sake. 90% of this board is PLA now and they don't even seem to be posting that much. -------------------------------------------------------- This whole mess was started by PLA for FUN - read the zine Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 E-mail: 31373@hotmail.com Location: uP Posted on: Monday August 11, 1997 IP Address: 208.137.185.136 Surf this whole site: http://pla.kracked.com/ Then send email to kracked.com and tell them their server contains illegal information. Phreaking, hacking, cracking, phracking, are ALL ILLEGAL. They do NOT want this garbage on their server, I guarantee it. This group that calls themselves the PLA is a particularly disgusting group of young hacker wannabes. They attack helpless people like the #quiltchat channel on dalnet IRC. They attacked these poor ladies who just wanted to talk about quilting. It's all covered on their web page. They have IRC log files of their terrorist attacks on helpless children and elderly people. The whole group is dedicated to having FUN by preying on innocent people. If it weren't for that fact, I would drop this whole mess now. But these guys are SICK. And it's time we had some FUN with them for a change to let them see how it feels. Email everyone on their provider that you can find. Email the admins a bright.net and tell them what RBCP does for fun. RBCP's email address is: bac@bright.net - an ISP in Ohio. -------------------------------------------------------- The forumterror page is back up at http://205.212.158.136/ Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Stop PLA Terrorism E-mail: spt@pladead.com Location: santa clara Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 206.170.114.25 This is RBCP's home page on bright.net. He is running the same page that was forced offline on tripod.com. This page slanders innocent BNF regulars and is illegal cyberstalking, slander, defamation. It contains information on regulars, jameson's name address phone number, information on lisa marie and other regular posters. We are close to finding out RBCP's name and address and charges will be filed when we find him. If you are being slandered by this page, or know someone who is, please call the administrators of bright.net and demand that the page be taken down, and this user's account be terminated. See the previous thread titled: info on BRIGHT.NET for all phone numbers needed to contact bright.net admins. The more people who call, the more likely this PLA leader will go away for good. He is running out of internet providers and soon will not have access to the net, if we complain to the right people. If anyone gets his name, please post it here and we will handle the rest. [Actually, any idiot could tell by the address that 31373 was really accessing the page from RBCP's own computer, not bright.net itself. The page on bright.net only had a link to his computer. ] -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Curious E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 208.192.36.46 It seems that the only information that is on that page about LisaMarie is the information taken and linked from her own page. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Lisa Marie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 146.186.132.81 To the person that is sleuthing out PLA. Stop it. Just let them die off. It is not you being slandered...or smeared. Why keep posting the site information? Do I care? No. They get more hits because you keep advertising where they are from. If you are so concerned, stop using the anonymizer.com's free way of hiding your own IP. I am personally tired of people using my name to ruin the threads. I have asked everyone to stop posting for my sake. If they want to post untrue information about me, fine. What goes around comes around. Mom once said, "if they are talking about me, then they are letting others alone." Stop creating threads with the information. We really truely don't care if they have that up. We care that the threads get back to normal and right now threads like these are not doing any good. Thank you, Lisa Marie -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Stop PLA Terrorism E-mail: spt@pladead.com Location: santa clara Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 206.170.114.25 So you are saying it's ok for the PLA to harrass innocent BNF regulars by posting a page like this? It matters not where the information came from. They are using it to "ruin lives" as they claim to have done on their web page: http://pla.kracked.com No more threats or bragging from me. Just action. RBCP is going down forever and doing hard time for his crimes against the helpless. If he hadn't picked on defensless people, I would let it drop, but he preys on children and people who can't defend themselves. He is a cyberstalker and those aren't very popular nowdays. Please help put an end to this terrorism. I am contacting a lady that wants to prosecute PLA members because of their harrassment and terrorism of her and her family. Her email address is: kathkwilts@worldnet.att.net - she is a member of the irc channel #quiltchat that RBCP and friends have terrorized. They have tried to "ruin her life" and have documented this fact on their web page. Please email Kathy and together, we can stop this disgusting group of cyberstalkers and send a message to similar groups at the same time. WE WON"T PUT UP WITH IT! WE WILL FIGHT THEM! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Linda alias 31373 E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 206.170.114.25 For crying out loud. It's obvious you are enjoying your tracking of RBCP and his PLA. Just another way for you to terrorize someone and feel you are doing it for a good cause. It is you and your harrassment of certain people who tired to post on this forum that involved the PLA in the first place. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Stop PLA Terrorism E-mail: spt@pladead.com Location: santa clara Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 206.170.114.25 Lisa Marie, you don't have to participate if you don't want to. I can't believe you would want to forget it after the PLA called your house and your place of employment trying to get you fired. Don't you care about the next innocent person they will go after? They have been doing this for over 2 years now, have you read the info on their web page? You can let the roll over you if you want, but they won't stop until they are forced to stop. When they come after your children, you will change your attitude, I have a feeling. Don't run and hide from them, that's what they want. THAT'S WHAT THEY COUNT ON. Appathetic internet users who just want the PLA to leave them alone. But they just move on to hurting someone else after they leave you alone. Please help us! You have been harrassed personally, and can be a HUGE help if you made some phone calls. If you don't help, the PLA will just keep harrassing us and terrorizing us, and trying to "ruin our lives" as they put it. If you don't help, they will start playing these games with others on the BNF, some of them are probably your friends. Don't you want to keep it from happening to your friends? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: The Psychic E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 209.60.98.85 It is perfectly fine to track people who are problem causers. Linda-chill out, or quit stalking . -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: "eric" E-mail: Location: ohio Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 205.212.158.160 The funny thing about all this is that while you're dedicating your life to destroying me, I'm out having a good time, seeing friends, spending time with my family, going to work and not worrying too much about you sending me to jail for the rest of my life. You're not the first person in the world who's made it their mission to "bring me down." I will not run out of internet providers because bright.net is not going to shut down my account because they have no reason to. And you still haven't told us how you expect to send me to prison for the rest of my life. As for your detective work, give it up. Every day you post more and more information about me but the sad thing is that you're getting it all from my web page that gets 5000 hits a week so obviously I put all that information up there for people to see. You're not doing detective work, you're simply posting stuff to this board that anybody could find at either of my web addresses. In fact, I think if you look hard enough, my home address is on the kracked page. Anyway, I'm going out tonight, I hope you have a good time being obsessed over me. It makes me feel important. In about 2 months you'll probably give up and realize that there's nothing you can do. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Stop PLA Terrorism E-mail: spt@pladead.com Location: santa clara Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 206.170.114.25 I can't convince you if you have your mind made up, but the PLA WILL NOT GO AWAY AND LEAVE YOU ALONE. For GOD's sake people, haven't you read their web page????????? This is what they do. Terrorize a group of innocent helpless people until the fun is gone, then move on to someone else. You're on your own when they get your IP address, look you up, and start their harrassing phone calls to you, your family, and your employer. I am protecting myself and my children from harrassment. Do your children use the internet? Do they use IRC? If so, they will run into the PLA someday and you are going to wish you had helped us get rid of them for good. -------------------------------------------------------- RAMSEY CONDOMS Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Spanish Prince (PLA) E-mail: elmo@omni-net.net Location: Westlake, OH Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 207.86.104.162 NOW, this is Spanish Prince here. I got these really ultra spiffy RAMSEY CONDOMS. These neon yellow glow in the dark condoms have been certified by John Ramsey that they have been used to probe JonBenet's little cunt when she was alive. These ultra spiffy condoms come with a money back guarantee. ONLY 15.95 ACT NOW. We only have 12 of these condoms available for sale so you must act now. Send all orders to elmo@omni-net.net thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ME E-mail: ME Location: SOMEWHERE Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 144.17.3.13 Spanis Prince, (whatever) That is the most discusting thing I have ever heard. GROW UP....... You are just as bad as the killer. You make me sick. Let JonBenet have some peace. Me. -------------------------------------------------------- RBCP took his forumterror page down again Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: RBCP's Worst Nightmare E-mail: stop@the.pla.forever Location: everywhere Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 206.170.114.25 RBCP has been forced to remove the forumterror page again. It will reappear somewhere else eventually. He created it to make fun of the good people he is terrorizing right now. I wish you people could understand what the PLA does, and that RBCP created it to harm good people so he can have fun. He thinks it's funny to harrass and belittle helpless people. He sells the audio tapes of the harrassing phone calls he makes. These are only the legal calls he makes. He wouldn't dare tape the illegal ones. But he tells everyone how he did it, and who he did it to. He keeps a running log of the people he terrorizes and up until a few weeks ago, published an online magazine about his exploits. His followers are mostly young people who think he is cool. They are basicly your average low self asteemed teen who latches onto someone older who they think is "cool". RBCP is posting here using my and other people's names, so don't be fooled. He is getting nervous. I know for a fact he has heard from the admins at KRACKED.COM and BRIGHT.NET. Bright.net forced him to remove the forumterror page again, but he will find somewhere else to put it so that his friends can laugh and have fun at our expense. He will continue to harrass this forum until he is brought down for good. This is the last posting from me. I am taking the fight to email since RBCP has succeded in getting some forum regulars to complain about my fight against him. This is the last piece of info you will get from me other than one final post telling you when RBCP has been stopped. He will probably continue to post as me and others, but I won't be here to read it. I will not stop though, I just won't bother the good BNF people with it anymore. Oh yeah, kracked.com forced RBCP to remove his forum posts that were coming over here. So you can flood his board again if you want. I say every time he floods here, you flood over there. And don't forget to call the admins at BRIGHT.NET and KRACKED.COM. If they get enough complaints, they will cancel his account regarless of his claims that he is doing nothing wrong. If he is doing nothing wrong, then why did he remove the forumterror page from his personal web space??? He knows it's slander, and illegal. Adios from 31373 ps. 31373 is meant to be a nick that annoys these boys. They can't stand to see their spelling of 31337 changed to 31373. To them it looks stupid. To my generation, it makes THEM look stupid. It's a parody of 31337. See ya later - don't let them win, they will just terrorize other helpless kids and adults on the net. (lisa marie, this was never about you, or for you. the PLA has been harrassing other friends of mine not related to BNF and I promised to help them) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Lisa Marie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 146.186.132.81 Well, then. Don't hide from me. I know you know how to contact me. Make that contact. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: Location: ohio Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 205.212.158.160 Actually, I haven't heard from bright.net and I haven't removed the forumterror page. You see, forumterror was never on bright.net - it's on my own computer which is linked from bright.net. The reason you're not seeing the forumterror page is because my personal web server on my computer is turned off or I'm not online. When I'm online, the page will reappear. You'd think that such a great detective as you would realize that when an IP address is listed in your broswer location bar, that means you're connected to a personal computer. -------------------------------------------------------- RBCP Wanted for Wood River, Ill Robbery Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- IP Address: 206.170.114.25 Police in Wood River have been sent this confession taken from RBCP's HISTORY OF THE PLA document on the PLA website: April 1, 1993: A few weeks later, I get a call from Sylvia telling me she's at the airport and will be flying up in the morning. I had gotten a job at the Wood River 7-Eleven. A few weeks later, Sylvia was hanging out in the store all night while I worked graveyard shift and we decided all of a sudden that it would be fun to loot the store, move to the east coast and change our names. So we did. We made off with around $4000 in cash, $200 in food stamps (Yes, food stamps. Hey, they're spendable...), about $50 in lottery tickets, $50 in rolls of quarters, various merchandise from all over the store including all the Pez we could carry. There is no response from Wood River police yet, but they promised to check into it. -------------------------------------------------------- [She left out the part where the Wood River police arrested them.] Posted by: RBCP E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: Celine, Ohio Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 IP Address: 206.170.114.25 How did you get that document? I took that off of the www site. Someone must have given you that! It's not true. It was only a joke. I admit it, I was lying about looting the wood river store. -------------------------------------------------------- Clean Slate Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BoulderNews E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Due to rampant abuse of the software, some changes have been made to the forum. These changes will not affect most people (legitimate users). To those who feel they need to ruin this space and harass others, we simply ask you to please respect this space as one of public discourse and conversation. All previous threads that were listed have been archived or deleted. This is not to censor, but to "start-over," so to speak, as certain individuals had flooded the boards with posts. Thank you. BoulderNews Administrative Staff -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Boulder News E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Thanks for saving the forum and bringing it back to what you intended it to be in the first place! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Boulder News E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: GSH E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Thank you, Boulder News. I have high hopes that the Forum will continue to be a place for discussion, debate, and conversation. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: me E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Is this for real? I hope and pray it is. What type of changes have been implemented? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Rosalie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Thank you Boulder News. I kind of liked the IP address thing while it lasted, but I respect your decision. You guys must be putting in a lot of overtime to keep this thing going! :) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: LizzieB E-mail: Location: Washington Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Well done Boulder News!! Your actions are greatly appreciated. Please continue to take a firm stand for freedom of speech and put some teeth into your terms and conditions of forum use. Take a bite out of cyberterrorism! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Grumpy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Thank you Boulder News. It will be wonderful to be able to enjoy the opinions on this form again...without having to endure all that garbage. Your professional courtesy regarding this matter, is greatly appreciated. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Longhorn E-mail: 5:40cst Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 I'll add my thanks to the BNews, and appreciate all you've tried to do. I keep checking in here, post little these days, but it IS home for me as to news on this murder. Thank you for doing all you have and holding up during the siege! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Lady in Red E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Thank you, thank you, thank you! I visted a couple of other forums while this one was down but I really prefer the style and format of this one. Again, thanks. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: spam E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Kudos to the ones responsible for the clean-up! But, does anyone have more news and less praise. I, along with everyone else lost the previous threads and am looking for autopsy info. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: spam E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 With the loss of the threads, I also lost a day. Sorry for the impatience,thought it was Wednesday.I hate it when that happens. Can't wait to see theR's squirm tomorrow.Wednesday! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: lest we forget E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Was the IP address removed due to legal implications? Maybe the action was not so noble. We have a right to post opinions anonymously. The world is just too sick today for anyone to reveal their true identity. It is called protect yourself. Let us get back to a vigil for justice for JonBenet. She did not deserve to die. She cannot speak for herself. If her family will not seek true justice, then we, her family of strangers, will take up the crusade for justice for JonBenet an innocent. May the crusade grow to include justice for all other abused and murdered children who suffer every day in this country of America. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BayB B E-mail: Location: 7:00pm cdt Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Thank You Boulder News! I hope the threads can remain calm. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Nina E-mail: 7:00 cdt Location: Texas Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 The autopsy will be released at 9:00 MDT Wednesday, 6 parts are missing including position of the body when 'discovered'. Don't know what happened with the IP's - wonder if that was part of the hackers plan or BN doing it? I copied down some of the nutsoes ones:) Anyway, THANK YOU Boulder News if you can get this Forum back to normal, or at least keep the threads from being trashed. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ConnieToo E-mail: Location: LA Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 I contemplated breaking out in the Halleulia Chorus and am dancing. The forum is going to return to what it was??? I love it. Thank you. I was totally underwhelmed with what it had degenerated to, and stayed away. Thank you ever so much! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Flower E-mail: toflower@hotmail.com Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Boulder News, I wish to add my sincere gratitude here as well. It is apparent that you are doing all within your power to insure the health of your threads. We all enjoy the service you provide. Because of your generosity in providing such a beautiful forum for discourse, we have come together and bonded, altho our thoughts and points of reference are many and our lives quite diversified. The common goal is the common bond and you provided the avenue for us, regardless of our point of view. (Or yours!) For that we are also grateful. I know I speak for others when I say that we would gladly help Boulder News in any way we can in your endeavor to keep the forum healthy and active. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Dr.WHO? E-mail: Location: 8:30 pm EDT Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Just browsing with the famous LYNX browser and felt the need to also laud your patience in handling the problem, and dealing with it in a Solomon-like manner. I know no one, these 'game players' included, would have the tolerance you have exhibited. Thanks from here, Dr.WHO?...hope I got it right, since I can't edit like I do using PPP. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Tippy E-mail: 7:40central Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Adding my thanks to Boulder News, for providing the forum in the first place, then having the patience and fortitude to deal with the problems. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: DC E-mail: Location: USA Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Thank you, Thank you Boulder News for letting this forum survive. I appreciate you allowing us a place to voice our opinions. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: T-Man E-mail: Location: Eastern State Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Bravo, Boulder News and many thanks to Brett and all the other staffers who restored the Ramsey Forum! Now we can all get on with the business of seeking justice for JonBenet. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: mary E-mail: Location: virginia Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Long-time lurker says thanks also. I had almost given up the forum. What is the deal now? Do we leave our true e-mail addresses or what? I would be happy to do so if it is safe now? So relieved to see Mrs Brady in this thread. Will we still have the trusty numbered threads to catch up on the action (or lack thereof)? Boulder News, you have my great admiration! Hello BayBB (sp?) and all other "old timers". I hope more lurkers return and the forum gets back to normal. I have missed all you guys!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Linda E-mail: 22:18 Location: Virginia Posted on: Tuesday August 12, 1997 Thank you Boulder News and all the folks behind the scenes that have worked so hard (and patiently) to restore this forum! I agree with the poster above who said that this is the best formatted forum around dealing with the JonBenet Ramsey case. Great Job! And everything was returned back to normal and the regulars on the Boulder News Forum lived happily ever after and never heard from the PLA again. Or did they? Stay tuned to our next exciting issue of Boulder News Frenzy!