TELECOM Digest Fri, 11 Feb 94 13:38:00 CST Volume 14 : Issue 75 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson CRTC Rejects Changes to Inside Wiring Responsibilities (David Leibold) Administration Adopts Coldwar Mentality, Pushes For Clipper (Monty Solomon) Telecommuting, Follow-up as Promised (Koos de Heer) Another Vendor Disguises Self as "AT&T" (Alan Boritz) Coca-Cola and US Sprint Run Phony Contest (Alan Boritz) New Zealand Dialing Protocol (jskene@delphi.com) New CompuServe Rates (Gavin Karelitz) Looking For 28,000 bps Test Number (Serge Burjak) Converting 11 Bit Data to 10 (Dave Wigglesworth) Re: Any LD Carriers With Cellular Plans? (John R. Levine) UK Net Access (Euan Bayliss) Re: VPN Services (David Appell) Re: Egghead Software Sells Bogus Phone Directory Software (Gary Breuckman) Re: Thanks For Using Your Local Phone Company (Ken Jongsma) Re: NPA Readiness for 1995 (Ken Rossen) Re: Advertising by New York Telephone (John R Levine) Re: Harrassing One-Ring Calls (Mario M. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djcl@io.org Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 23:48:21 -0500 Subject: CRTC Rejects Changes to Inside Wiring Responsibilities [from CRTC news release] February 2, 1994 CRTC RULES AGAINST BELL/BC TEL PROPOSAL TO TRANSFER OWNERSHIP OF INSIDE TELEPHONE WIRING OTTAWA/HULL - The CRTC today denied applications by Bell Canada (Bell) and British Columbia Telephone Company (BC Tel) proposing to transfer ownership of residence and business single-line telephone wiring inside buildings to invididual premises owners. Under the companies' proposals, premises owners with single-line service would have assumed the responsibility and cost of installing and repairing inside wiring. Today's ruling (Telecom Decision CRTC 94-2) follows thorough public proceedings conducted by the Commission. "Based on the evidence presented during our public review, the CRTC concluded that the particular approach proposed by Bell and BC Tel for requiring consumers to take on ownership and responsibility for repair of wiring inside their premises was not in the public interest," said CRTC Chairman Keith Spicer. "However, the decision does set out alternative approaches that Bell and BC Tel could consider to address concerns raised during our public examination." In their applications, Bell and BC Tel proposed the following: * to transfer ownership of existing single-line business and residence inside wiring to the owner of each premises; * premises owners, at their option, would be able to obtain new single-line inside wiring and repair of the wiring from telephone companies or other suppliers; * introduction of an optional maintenance plan called LineGuard for an additional monthly fee, over and above current basic service prices; * for two-party and multi-party line subscribers, the telephone companies would continue to provide maintenance as part of the basic service rate for the time being. While the Commission concluded that there could be benefits in giving customers responsibility for inside wiring, the CRTC found that the maintenance plan proposals would result in unacceptable additional costs to consumers. Moreover, the Commission concluded that a viable competitive market in maintenance plan services was not likely to develop because of the inherent advantages of the telephone companies. In its decision, the CRTC outline two alternate scenarios which could be explored by Bell and BC Tel. Under the first approach, subscribers would be free to choose a supplier to install and repair inside wiring, and telephone companies would be precluded from offering maintenance plans. Under the second approach, responsibility for the ownership, maintenance and repair of single-line inside wiring would continue as it currently exists unless customers order new wiring or modify their existing wiring. In reaching its decision, the Commission took into account the comments filed by a diverse range of interveners such as the provincial governments of British Columbia, Ontario and Quebec; the Telecommunications Workers' Union; the Association of Competitive Telecommunications Suppliers; Unitel Communications Inc.; as well as several associations representing electricians, consumers and anti-poverty groups. Contact: Bill Allen, Director CRTC Public Affairs, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N2 Tel: 819-997-0313, TDD: 819-994-0423, Fax: 819-994-0218 Copies of today's decision are available from the CRTC's main Public Examination Room (Tel: 819-997-2429, TDD: 819-994-0423, Fax: 819-994-0218) or from one of its regional offices: Halifax, Nova Scotia - Tel: 902-426-7997, TDD: 902-426-6997, Fax: 902-426-2721 Montreal, Quebec - Tel: 514-283-6607, TDD: 514-283-8316, Fax: 514-283-3689 Toronto, Ontario - Tel: 416-954-6273, TDD: 416-954-8420, Fax: 416-954-6343 Winnipeg, Manitoba - Tel: 204-983-6306, TDD: 204-983-8274, Fax: 204-983-6317 Vancouver, British Columbia - Tel: 604-666-2111, TDD: 604-666-0778, Fax: 604-666-8322 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 18:27:39 -0500 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Administration Adopts Coldwar Mentality, Pushes For Clipper FYI From: Stanton McCandlish Subject: Administration adopts coldwar mentality, pushes for Clipper EFF Press Release Feb 4 '94 * DISTRIBUTE WIDELY * At two briefings, Feb. 4, 1994, the Clinton Administration and various agencies gave statements before a Congressional committee, and later representatives of civil liberties organizations, industry spokespersons and privacy advocates. The Electronic Frontier Foundation's position, based on what we have seen and heard from the Administration today, is that the White House is set on a course that pursues Cold War national security and law enforcement interests to the detriment of individual privacy and civil liberties. The news is grim. The Administration is: * not backing down on Clipper * not backing down on key escrow * not backing down on selection of escrow agents * already adamant on escrowed key access procedures * not willing to eliminate ITAR restrictions * hiding behind exaggerated threats of "drug dealers" and "terrorists" The material released to the industry and advocacy version of the briefing have been placed online at ftp.eff.org (long before their online availability from government access sites, one might add). See below for specific details. No information regarding the Congressional committee version of the briefing has been announced. EFF Director Jerry Berman, who attended the private sector meeting, reported the following: "The White House and other officials briefed industry on its Clipper chip and encryption review. While the review is not yet complete, they have reached several policy conclusions. First, Clipper will be proposed as a new Federal Information Processing Standard (FIPS) next Wednesday. [Feb. 9] It will be "voluntary" for government agencies and the private sector to use. They are actively asking other vendors to jump in to make the market a Clipper market. Export licensing processes will be speeded up but export restrictions will not be lifted in the interests of national security. The reason was stated bluntly at the briefing : to frustrate competition with clipper by other powerful encryption schemes by making them difficult to market, and to "prevent" strong encryption from leaving the country thus supposedly making the job of law enforcement and intelligence more difficult. Again in the interest of national security. Of course, Clipper will be exportable but they would not comment on how other governments will view this. Treasury and NIST will be the escrow agents and Justice asserted that there was no necessity for legislation to implement the escrow procedures. "I asked if there would be a report to explain the rationale for choosing these results - we have no explanation of the Administration's thinking, or any brief in support of the results. They replied that there would be no report because they have been unable to write one, due to the complexity of the issue. "One Administration spokesperson said this was the Bosnia of Telecomm- unications. I asked, if this was so, how, in the absence of some policy explanation, could we know if our policy here will be as successful as our policy in Bosnia?" The announcements, authorization procedures for release of escrowed keys, and q-and-a documents from the private sector briefing are online at EFF. They are: "Statement of the [White House] Press Secretary" [White House] file://ftp.eff.org/pub/EFF/Policy/Crypto/wh_press_secy.statement "Statement of the Vice President" [very short - WH] file://ftp.eff.org/pub/EFF/Policy/Crypto/gore_crypto.statement "Attorney General Makes Key Escrow Encryption Announcements" [Dept. of Just.] file://ftp.eff.org/pub/EFF/Policy/Crypto/reno_key_escrow.statement "Authorization Procedures for Release of Encryption Key Components in Conjunction with Intercepts Pursuant to Title III/State Statutes/FISA" [3 docs. in one file - DoJ] file://ftp.eff.org/pub/EFF/Policy/Crypto/doj_escrow_intercept.rules "Working Group on Data Security" [WH] file://ftp.eff.org/pub/EFF/Policy/Crypto/interagency_workgroup.announce "Statement of Dr. Martha Harris Dep. Asst. Secy. of State for Polit.-Mil. Affairs: Encryption - Export Control Reform" [Dept. of State] file://ftp.eff.org/pub/EFF/Policy/Crypto/harris_export.statement "Questions and Answers about the Clinton Administration's Encryption Policy" [WH] file://ftp.eff.org/pub/EFF/Policy/Crypto/wh_crypto.q-a These files are available via anonymous ftp, or via WWW at: http://www.eff.org/ in the "EFF ftp site" menu off the front page. Gopher access: gopher://gopher.eff.org/ Look in "EFF Files"/"Papers and Testimony"/"Crypto" All seven of these documents will be posted widely on the net immediately following this notice. Contacts: Digital Privacy: Jerry Berman, Exec. Director Daniel J. Weitzner, Sr. Staff Counsel Archives: Stanton McCandlish, Online Activist General EFF Information: info@eff.org [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My thanks to Monty for passing this along to us. So, the discontent with President Clinton continues to grow. Does anyone remember as far back as just before his election when this man was supposedly going to be such a great person to have in office? Remember all the great things in store for us? He conned lots of gay people into voting for him with that bunk of his about no more discrimination in the military; many Silicon Valley people supported him with his talk about the Information Superhighway (probably soon to be commercialized beyond everyone's wildest dreams -- even mine, and I should talk, eh?); why, I think even the fine Socially Responsible People over at EFF and CPSR all told us how this dude would be so much better than the current resident president then in power who no doubt had seen his finest hour long before moving into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Remember when Clinton went to that meeting in Silicon Valley and that wimpy software programmer stood up and said, "I sure wish I had voted for you .."? I'm sure glad I didn't! Well, within a couple years hopefully he will be out of office. It is too bad that impeachment proceedings are such a long, tedious and cumbersome process. Nixon was the only president in recent times to face impeachment, and when it became rather obvious it was about to happen he resigned instead rather than go through with it. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 15:37:07 +0100 From: koos@cvi.ns.nl (Koos de Heer) Subject: Telecommuting Follow-up Summary A few weeks ago, I posted a discussion of telecommuting, requesting discussion and announcing the summary of reactions in a follow-up post. Well, here it is. Again, discussion is welcome. Posting is preferred, but email reactions will be edited (or should I say moderated? ;-) into a future post. ---------------driving forces----------------- We discussed the driving forces behind telecommuting. In the correspondence that followed, two more driving forces were added: There is also the desire of first world companies to take advantage of third world wages. If a job can be done by telecommuting, it may not stay in the first world at all. This is already happening in the field of programming (especially India). One other case that was reported, albeit a quite minor one, is sending hard copies of documents to the third world for keyboard entry. This is likely to become less important over time as OCR gets better. We don't have numbers for either case, and no other instances were reported so far. The European Union (formerly known as the European Community) is conducting research on telecommuting as a way to help underdeveloped area's. No results available yet, but the idea is clear: by bringing the work to the people, one can try to prevent the mass migration to urban areas in poor countries. A driving force that we did discuss in the first post, but found difficult to give hands and feet to, is the development of society. As technology both advances and penetrates, people will get used to it and take it for granted. Telecommunications will be used in the future in cases where a personal meeting is now seen as essential. (Questions have been raised if this is a desirable development, but that is, however interesting, not the topic of this post). This sort of development is difficult to project. We have come up with a few figures that can serve as input. The proliferation of Internet: 1988 33,000 nodes 1993 1,776,000 " between 1991 and 1992, the numbers of PC's and fax machines in households increased with 29% each. Anyone have more ideas? ---------------social aspects--------------- In the first post, there was no mention of the social aspects of work. Many people like to go to work to meet other people, which means that telecommuters can become detached from the normal social network of the workplace. People can also have the need to maintain a separation, a distance between home and work. The physical journey to work can form a useful barrier between the two environments. It depends on the individual; how (s)he relates to work and what the (social and practical) situation at home is. Generally, we use two sets of criteria when determining the telecommutability of workers: 1. criteria related to the work situation (type of work, type of organization) 2. criteria related to the person (home situation, personality, personal preferences). Telecommuting, in our view, will only succeed if the work and the person are both telecommutable (which includes that the person _wants_ to telecommute). In general, I expect a change in society in this respect. The dependence on work for social contacts will decrease and the seperation between work and private environments will also become less. In fact, telecommuting will make it easier to combine an interesting and rewarding private life with a paid job. The social problems of telecommuting can also be eliminated by satellite telecommuting offices. This is becoming more popular in States such as California where the traffic problem is the greatest. Even though this is telecommuting, the individual works outside the home and has a SHORT "physical journey" to the office. -------------example: BT------------ We often think of telecommuters as people in highly educated environments. In the UK, British Telecom has conducted an experiment with operators in the directory assistance service who worked at home. Some interesting details: A key element of the trial was that they were are provided with videophones to preserve face-to-face contact with colleagues, and in particular, a videophone was provided in the coffee room of their central workplace, so that the teleworkers could keep up with gossip and non-work related discussions as well as being able to consult colleagues for work-related advice. Operator jobs are such that one is working constantly, answering telephone calls for most of the time (it can be quite exhausting). It's immediately obvious if someone's not working, since their average time to deal with a call will go up. The system used to support teleworking had a facility called "Comfort break", which the worker used to request a break from work from the supervisor -- to visit the lavatory, or get a drink. Of course, this is similar to the situation working in the Operator Centre -- workers must explicitly request permission to leave their posts. Strangely, when the users were questionnaired after the trial, the "Comfort break" facility was judged to be the least important facility! The other facilities (in order of importance) were: + videophone + electronic mail + electronic forms + electronic noticeboard + newsflash + SOS - notification of domestic emergency (e.g. "Help! My house is on fire!") ------------end of follow-up--------------- As mentioned at the start of this article, comments are welcome. Special thanks this time to: Jock Eleven a.k.a. (Jonathan Headland) "G. TREVOR FOO" a.k.a. soreff@vnet.IBM.COM (Jeff) for their contributions koos de heer - centrum voor informatieverwerking koos@cvi.ns.nl tel. ++31.30.924860 ------------------------------ Subject: Another Vendor Disguises Self as "AT&T" From: drharry!aboritz@uunet.UU.NET (Alan Boritz) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 08:10:35 EST Organization: Harry's Place BBS - Mahwah NJ - +1 201 934 0861 This must be the week for phone scams in New Jersey. ;) I received several calls from a company identifying itself as "Network Services of AT&T." They pitched a software-defined network using AT&T that features flat rates of .18/minute over five mileage bands (wow), compared to a much better rate we presently get from AT&T. The fax I received, though, showed a Baltimore address and phone number and the pitch then stated "utilizing the AT&T long distance network." In other words, just another pushy reseller mis-representing themselves. aboritz%drharry@uunet.uu.net or uunet!drharry!aboritz Harry's Place BBS (drharry.UUCP) - Mahwah NJ USA - +1-201-934-0861 ------------------------------ Subject: Coca-Cola and US Sprint Run Phony Contest From: drharry!aboritz@uunet.UU.NET (Alan Boritz) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 08:06:15 EST Organization: Harry's Place BBS - Mahwah NJ - +1 201 934 0861 Wow, a Diet Coke with a contest opportunity! All I have to do is call US Sprint's "Monster Line" (1-800-474-3476) and see if my "Monster Code" is a winner! Oh, no, the recording tells me that I can't reach that number from my area! Oh, well, Sprint screwed up ANOTHER "free" offer... ;) aboritz%drharry@uunet.uu.net or uunet!drharry!aboritz Harry's Place BBS (drharry.UUCP) - Mahwah NJ USA - +1-201-934-0861 ------------------------------ From: jskene@news.delphi.com Subject: New Zealand Dialing Protocol Date: 11 Feb 1994 11:24:44 -0500 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation I understand that nine dial pulses are required to signify the digit "1" in New Zealand, eight signify 2, etc. Can anyone confirm this? jskene@delphi.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I believe that is correct. The dial is exactly backwards of the one we use in the USA. Any New Zealanders wish to comment? PAT] ------------------------------ From: gavink@sefl.satelnet.org (Gavin Karelitz) Subject: New CompuServe Rates Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 21:07:14 EST Here are the new CIS rates that became effective February 6th: 300-2400 bps - $4.80/hr 9600-14400 bps - $9.60/hr The above rates are for the "standard plan" and communications surcharges remain the same as before for all data networks. Gavink@SatelNet.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 12:42:29 CST From: Serge Burjak Subject: Looking For 28,000 bps Test Number I am looking for a test number to do inoperability testing over a satellite link on a 28,000 bps modem. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Serge Burjak serge@tmxbris.mhs.oz.au ------------------------------ From: Dave Wigglesworth Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 08:50:27 GMT Subject: Converting 11 Bit Data to 10 Hi, We have a remote monitoring and control system that was designed to run over an X.25 network. Unfortunately the data structure that the monitoring system gives out is incompatible with the options for the PAD port. Does anyone know of a little black box that can convert the following: 1 Start bit 8 Data bits 1 Parity bit 1 Stop bit ie eleven bit data to 1 Start bit 8 Data bits 1 Stop bit ie eight and no parity (10 bits total). One option was to change the comms module in the monitoring system, however, that would cause unacceptable down time as the physical box that houses it also houses vital systems equipment. Any solutions? Thanks in advance. David Wigglesworth Offshore & International Telecommunications Conoco (UK) LTD N2 Conoco Centre Gallows Hill Warwick CV34 6DB. UK Internet wigd00@wrksun1.wrk.dupont.com Voice +44 926 404863 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 09:52 EST From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine) Subject: Re: Any LD Carriers With Cellular Plans? Organization: I.E.C.C., Cambridge, Mass. > While I'm not particularly hopeful, I'm curious if anyone knows if any > of the major carriers offer discounts to cellular customers. Sure. Sprint offers the same baffling array of discount plans on my cell phone as they do on my landline. But for some reason they can't combine cellular and landline phones on the same bill. Multiple cellular or multiple landline are OK. Is CellOne Boston equal access? Since it's actually Southwest Bell, one of the RBOCs, I would expect that it is. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, jlevine@delphi.com, 1037498@mcimail.com ------------------------------ From: euan@bayliss.dircon.co.uk (Euan Bayliss) Subject: UK Net Access Date: 11 Feb 1994 12:27:32 GMT Organization: Banyan Systems Technical Support Hi there all. I am currently connecting via a normal residential BT line using PPP. I am wondering if I will get better value for money if I move to, say, Mercury. Note that the vast majority of my calls on that line are off-peak local ones. Any suggestions? Euan Bayliss, of the Tech Services Department, Banyan Europe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 08:34 EST From: David Appell <0005946880@mcimail.com> Subject: Re: VPN Services > Does anyone have any information comparing the VPN (virtual private > network) services of the major interexchange carriers? Any references > to documents or reports? You might try: Daniel D. Briere, _Virtual Networks - A Buyer's Guide_, Artech House, Inc., 685 Canton Street, Norwood, MA 02062, c. 1990, ISBN 0-89006-411-3. David Appell 594-6880@mcimail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 07:41:11 -0800 From: puma@netcom.com (Gary Breuckman) Subject: Re: Egghead Software Sells Bogus Phone Directory Software In article is written: > So, a friend of mine who lives in L.A. just bought a real computer > with a built-in CD rom drive. He spotted a great little national > phone directory on CD rom at Egghead Software, so he bought one. When > he brought it home, he found that the access program for the database > gave him an intriguing message about how he "bought" a record, after > viewing a full address and phone record. It seems that the > instructions INSIDE of the CD rom package explain that he didn't buy > the whole database, but a only finite number of views of full database > records (considerably less than the total number of records in the > database). So, just how do they RECORD how many numbers you have viewed? Obviously not on the CD. Unless there is some sort of KEY DISK (floppy) that frustrates duplication and must be used to view the CD, you should be able to reinstall the package after your requisite number of views have been used, and start over. I don't advocate, normally, cheating software/information suppliers or obtaining more than you legally are entitled to ... but since this restriction wasn't noted on the box it would seem to me that it's not valid. puma@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 09:58:15 EST From: Ken Jongsma Reply-To: jongsma@swdev.si.com Subject: Re: Thanks For Using Your Local Phone Company If you were in Rugby, ND, you were either doing something related to agriculture or something related to the Minuteman missiles buried in the ground there! Judging by your address, I'd guess the latter ... Anyway, most of the local telcos in North Dakota are either independents or coops. In Minot (the nearest "large" city), phone service is provided by Northern States Power. They also provide electricity. Not necessarily on the same circuit. It's been a few years, but I'm pretty sure Rugby, Max and most of the other small towns in that area are provided service by a telephone coop. Despite their size, many of the coops have fairly current electronic switches and offer most of the usual custom calling services. Partially because they were not covered by the divestiture agreement and partially because the population density is so low, most long distance carriers do not provide service to every coop. Thus many of the coops have banded together to buy long distance in bulk and resell it to their subscribers. Many times it is cheaper to use the coop, especially for in-state calls. Ken [Who spent 3+ years buried under the ground in North Dakota...] Kenneth R Jongsma If you like the IRS jongsma@swdev.si.com Smiths Industries You're going to *LOVE* 73115.1041@compuserve.com Grand Rapids, Michigan Clinton Health Care +1 616 241 7702 ------------------------------ From: kenr@shl.com (Ken Rossen) Subject: Re: NPA Readiness for 1995 Date: 11 Feb 1994 16:11:11 GMT Organization: SHL Systemhouse In article , Gregory P. Monti wrote: > 508 MA 1+10 yes Mass DPU ordered 1 + 10D in 10/93 (was to be 7D) A similar note appears for 617. What does "ordered" mean? Customers have not been informed of dialing changes, have we? 1 + 7D is still the rule in Mass., and I have no knowledge of a cutover. KENR@SHL.COM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 12:13 EST From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine) Subject: Re: Advertising by New York Telephone Organization: I.E.C.C., Cambridge, Mass. > asking you to use NET to call your friends and > relatives within Massachusetts. What other phone company would we use? Any one you want. Massachusetts has intra-LATA toll competition, although I must admit that maybe 1% of customers know that. > I'm sure NYNEX has spent our money on lots of failed projects -- ... You bet. Remember NYNEX Business Centers, the computer stores that had a lot of salesmen hanging around waiting for customers? Or their horrible X.25 info gateway system? There's a reason that NYNEX has a reputation as the dimmest of the RBOCs. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, jlevine@delphi.com, 1037498@mcimail.com ------------------------------ From: mbutter@clark.net (Mario M. Butter) Subject: Re: Harrassing One-Ring Calls Date: 11 Feb 1994 17:14:22 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc. Bill Garfield (bill.garfield@yob.com) wrote: > OK all you telephone company techno-jocks, I need some help with this. > We are being besieged by single-jingle (one ring) calls. Could this be a phone company problem? I had the same thing happen to me yesterday at home. About 30 times over a three hour stretch, the phone rang once then stopped. I picked it up a few times on the first ring, but there was no connection on the other end. Also, this was happening on both of my lines, not just one. mbutter@clark.net #include mbutter@saars1.fb4.noaa.gov Satellite Active Archive Design Team ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V14 #75 *****************************