TELECOM Digest Sun, 16 Jan 94 11:39:00 CST Volume 14 : Issue 33 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Unmetered Local Service (Jack Decker) Re: Unmetered Local Service (Fred Goldstein) Re: Unmetered Local Service (David A. Kaye) Re: Unmetered Local Service (Al Varney) Re: Unmetered Local Service (Bill Pfeiffer) Re: Unmetered Local Service (Cliff Sharp) Re: Unmetered Local Service (TELECOM Digest Editor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ao944@yfn.ysu.edu (Jack Decker) Subject: Re: Unmetered Local Service Date: 16 Jan 1994 05:27:46 GMT Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net Reply-To: ao944@yfn.ysu.edu (Jack Decker) In response to my recent article, Pat wrote: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The thing Jack Decker and other pro- > ponents of flat rate billing seem to forget or ignore is that in most > instances of measured billing, the majority of telephone subscribers > actually pay LESS for service than with flat rate. A small minority > of the users -- mainly people with telephone intensive lifestyles such > as modem users -- pay more. Where flat rate service exists, the rate > is invariably evened out in such a way that telco still makes money > based on average usage which tends to run high on the curve due to > modem (and similar heavy volume) users. In other words, if you want > to average it out and set a 'flat rate', telco still won't be the > loser, but the majority of the users will be. He mentions two areas > where people voted against measured service but exactly the opposite > was the case in Chicago in the middle 1980's when IBT dropped its > 'metro calling plans' in favor of pay-as-you-use it. Yes, the modem > users screamed bloody murder, but all sorts of telephone users other- > wise were happy to see their bill go down a couple dollars monthly. > One of the major consumer organizations here endorsed the new plan > without reservations. Flat rate calling plans work much the same way > as insurance actuarial tables: let a few people in a given category > cause some major expenses and everyone pays. I can't say that I > benefitted from measured service here (in fact I wound up paying more > than before by quite a bit) but it is a lot fairer to the 99 percent > of the public who does not use modems or stay on a phone connection > for hours at a time each day. PAT] Pat, it sounds to me like you are willing to accept lower rates in the short term while giving up a considerable measure of control over your phone bill in the long run. I'm not arguing that people who take measured service don't often save money at first; in fact, I think it's been designed that way. The phone companies aren't above giving up a little revenue in the short term if they see the potential of making greater profits in the long run. My point, which you seem to have overlooked, is that the costs to the phone company are rarely increased by increased usage of telephone service, especially by residential customers. Therefore, it is arguably fairer to charge for phone service in a usage insensitive manner. The people of Maine and Oregon obviously thought it was fairer to do it that way. (By the way, I don't have much use for most "major consumer organizations"; I find they often have their own axes to grind. But, that's another topic for another time). You say that measured service "is a lot fairer to the 99 percent of the public who does not use modems or stay on a phone connection for hours at a time each day." I would agree with you IF the phone company's costs were being driven up by those customers, but I've yet to see any evidence that they are. Keep in mind that we're talking about residential customers here, and residential customers very seldom make heavy use of the telephone system during peak calling periods. Sure, a residential user may talk for hours at a time, but if it's in the evening when the central office which is loafing along at a fraction of its total call handling capacity, what does it matter? Keep in mind that since the phone company is a monopoly, they can juggle the rates any way they want. Suppose that when IBT introduced measured service in Chicago, they had chosen to price it in such a way that the average customer would have paid more than they did under the previous plan? They could have done that, you know, but obviously they wouldn't have had many takers for measured service if they'd done that. But if they had, perhaps now you might now be arguing that flat rate service is the better deal? I think that what many of the Baby Bells (and GTE) would like to do is get mandatory measured service in everywhere. Why? Because it makes rate increases easier to justify. Under flat rate service, when customers complain that their bills are too high, the PUC just might order the telco to lower their rates, or at least not approve any new rate increases. But when customers have measured service, then it's easier for telco to place the blame for high bills on customers: "If they want lower bills, they should make fewer calls!" Of course, if the day ever comes that virtually everyone has measured service, then telco can raise the rates so that the "average customer" is paying MORE than he would have under unmeasured service. You have to understand that there's a bit of psychology involved here. It's often easier to get a PUC to approve a rate increase of a penny or two per call than to approve an extra dollar or two per month on the total phone bill. It's like the AT&T commercials where they say "you're only saving pennies" without pointing out that as the units add up, so do those pennies. Right now, none of the Baby Bells have managed to get measured service throughout their service area, so they haven't been able to jack up measured service rates as much as they'd like to, because they know that regulators and consumers in other states would find out about the increases and use them as ammunition to forestall the implementation of mandatory measured service in the states where unmeasured service is still available. I think that instead of looking at Chicago as an example, it might be more instructive to look at places where virtually no flat rate service exists. Take Europe for example; even in countries where the phone system is fairly well developed, local phone charges are considerably higher than ours. I doubt you will find any place in the world (outside of the United States and Canada) where people can make as many calls and talk as long as the average person does here, and still receive a phone bill that's anywhere near as low as our bills are. A lot of those people would truly love the luxury of being able to pick up the phone and make a local call anytime they feel like it, without worrying about the costs. And what they have there is pretty close to what we would have here, if the telcos could get mandatory measured service put in place nationwide. One other thing, you always take swipes at modem users on this issue, but I think that's even a bit unfair for three reasons. First, many modem users are on business lines, and since most business lines are now measured, they're paying for their service anyway. Second, most residential modem users tend to make their calls in off-peak periods, so they're really not taxing the capacity of the phone system that much. But the third thing is that when most telcos here implement measured service, they charge on a per-call rather than per-minute basis. If we were to assume that the point of measured service was to discourage modem use, then it would make more sense to charge by the minute on local calls (because modem users tend to make longer calls), but that's done in VERY few areas of the country. It would make even more sense to charge extra only for calls made during the heaviest calling periods, but as far as I know, that's not done ANYWHERE in the United States for local calls. So I don't the the phone companies really have modem users (and people who stay on a phone connection for hours at a time) foremost in mind when they implement mandatory measured service, even if you think they're a major target. The bottom line is that while measured service may seem like a deal now, I would not assume that such will always be the case. This is the phone company's version of a "loss leader", something to convince you (whether "you" is the individual residential customer or the PUC of a state) that measured service is a good deal ... and never mind that there may be price increases around the corner. Think, Pat ... their costs are NOT usage based, and they can juggle the price of either measured or unmeasured service to make either one seem like the better deal at any point in time. Therefore, saying that measured service is "better" because the majority of customers are saving money with it is in reality making a value judgement based on the conscious actions of the phone company to make measured service a better deal AT THIS POINT IN TIME. When it's the ONLY deal available, you may suddenly find it's not such a bargain. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 00:19:06 -0500 From: goldstein@carafe.tay2.dec.com Subject: Re: Unmetered Local Service Imagine, if you will, a new telephone rate structure announced by your local Bell company, say, Ameritech. Henceforth, your monthly residential rate will be $2 + $1 for each letter of the alphabet removed from "A". Thus Abolafia will pay $2, Bernstein $3, Coletti $4, up to Zzzyandottie who will pay $27. This is perfectly fair, of course, because most people have names that are before "M", and thus come out in the cheaper half. Is this absurd? It is only a bit less arbitrary than most measured local service plans! Telephone rates are set by regulators because in a free market, price tends towards cost, but telephones are a monopoly so there is no free market. And in this monopoly world, the historical regulatory regime has NOT been cost, but "value of service". And that's basically whatever your regulator says it is. One approach, of course, is to price telephone service (80%+ of which is a fixed cost, whether you never use it or never hang up) based upon usage. Illinois Bell and New York Telephone both do this a lot. In the case of NY City, the state regulators made them do a fancy cost of service study, and they ended up with a complex three-rate-period multi-band structure that bottoms out under a penny a minute for short-haul nighttime calls. (Residence can get untimed service.) Note though that NY City has an unusually complex and costly infra- structure, with so many COs, tandems, etc., to deal with. The trouble with overcharging for usage is that it reduces the economic efficiency of the network as a whole. Overprice (vis a vis true cost) usage rates discourage usage, so the usage-insensitive infrastructure (most of it) gets less usage than it should. The resource is wasted. The FCC makes telcos produce true cost data when making up the rates charged to long distnace carriers for delivering calls. These rates are then buggered by a formula that produces a subsidy (read: they're marked up), and they're entirely usage-based. But the mileage component is only about 1/100 of a cent per mile per minute. A call anywhere in a LATA usually costs about the same. Overcharging heavy local users or overcharging people named "Townson" is equally wrong. fred ------------------------------ From: dk@crl.com (David A. Kaye) Subject: Re: Unmetered Local Service Date: 15 Jan 1994 20:30:49 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Jack Decker (ao944@yfn.ysu.edu) wrote: > 1) Telephone CUSTOMERS do not want to be charged on a per-call or > per-minute basis. This was actually put to a vote of the people in at > least two states (Maine and Oregon, back in 1986 I believe), and in > those states the people voted to ban mandatory measured service by a > considerable margin. In Oregon US West does provide flat rate service for both residential AND business customers. The Portland local calling area extends fifty miles! It's amazing. It is also probably one of the reasons why business bypass service is not popular in that area, whereas in San Francisco it is a booming business (measured business rate and a local calling area of about ten miles). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 94 16:39:34 CST From: varney@ihlpe.att.com Subject: Re: Unmetered Local Service Organization: AT&T In article ao944@yfn.ysu.edu (Jack Decker) writes: > On Wed Jan 12 08:35:33 1994, lars@Eskimo.CPH.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen) > wrote: >> A. Padgett Peterson (padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com) wrote: >>> If an employee is worth telecommuting, even a $4/hour connection >>> charge is fairly minor in the face of, say, a $65,000 salary/benefits >>> package. Even if you get charged that for eight hours a day, it's minor. >>> Most employees who would best benefit from telecommuting are the ones >>> who are well into long-distance calling areas. >> Many telecommuters will have a local call to an internet carrier's >> local Point Of Presence. Eight hours at $4/hour is $32 a day. This is >> at least the equivalent of another hour's salary. Hardly negligible. > I agree with this last point completely. I don't claim to be psychic, > but I will predict that telecommuting will NEVER take off where there > are per-minute charges involved. By that I mean it will never get to > the point where anyone other than the top executives and maybe a very > few other employees will be allowed to work outside the home. No > company in their right mind would pay $32 a day for an employee to > telecommute when that same employee could drive to work on under $5 > worth of gas, and be physically present when needed. And keep in mind > that it wouldn't be just the $4/hour in the example mentioned, there's > also extra monthly charges for the extra phone lines required, plus > equipment costs at both ends. It all adds up. I disagree, but only because $4/hour is unlikely -- at $2/hour or $16 per day, it costs about the same as floor space, parking, taxes, services, etc. When urban companies start paying real money when the number of single-car commuters doesn't drop, telecommuting will be a real option. In addition, it's not the $65K folks that are candidates. It's the skilled clerks and sales folks. If you can pay these people $2/hour less in salary/benefits in exchange for work-at-home (or work-in-the- car), telecommuting looks pretty good. Better yet, you can compete for workers that would be unwilling to commute to your work site -- those with small kids, a sick parent or poor access to transportation will usually work for less in exchange for a presence at home (perhaps part-time). Al Varney ------------------------------ From: rrb@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (Bill Pfeiffer) Subject: Re: Unmetered Local Service Date: Sat, 15 Jan 1994 20:26:56 CST > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The thing Jack Decker and other pro- > ponents of flat rate billing seem to forget or ignore is that in most > instances of measured billing, the majority of telephone subscribers > actually pay LESS for service than with flat rate. A small minority > of the users -- mainly people with telephone intensive lifestyles such > as modem users -- pay more. Please, Pat. That is not at all true. I know of nobody (yourself included) whose bill has decreased with measured service. Yes I know that the telcos propaganda said this would be true but it is not true for anyone who uses the phone. It is not even true for those who dont. Basic service is way up, supplemental charges are up too. > Where flat rate service exists, the rate is invariably evened out in > such a way that telco still makes money based on average usage which > tends to run high on the curve due to modem (and similar heavy volume) > users. Hogwash. When we had callpacks here, you still had the option of measured zero service where each call cost roughly what it does now. Noobody was forced to take any callpacks. They took them because they made sense to consumers. We had several 'paks' to choose from too, including certain numbers of units, on up to unlimited and super unlimited, which reached almost everywhere in the LATA. All that this measured service has done is make timed toll calls out of calls which were untimed local calls and have driven the average phone bill up, not down. > He mentions two areas here people voted against measured service but > exactly the opposite was the case in Chicago in the middle 1980's when > IBT dropped its 'metro calling plans' in favor of pay-as-you-use it. Er, I don't remember any vote in Chicago where the 'opposite' happened. I remember the company notifying us that our callpaks were to be termin- ated and how wonderful it will be. > Yes, the modem users screamed bloody murder, but all sorts of > telephone users otherwise were happy to see their bill go down a > couple dollars monthly. ... while most other people who actually USE their phones saw their bills skyrocket. Sure Gramma and Grampa with their rotary black phone who call junior once a month on the next block, saves a couple of bucks but most people, I feel, saw dramatic increases. In Chicago you have an eight mile radius from your CO to the called CO for a one time charge of about five cents. If your CO is on the lake, however, your eight miles east is nil. What was once an untimed call from the North side of Chicago to the South side (even under measured zero in the call-pak days) is now timed by the minute. > One of the major consumer organizations here endorsed the new plan > without reservations. Flat rate calling plans work much the same way > as insurance actuarial tables: let a few people in a given category > cause some major expenses and everyone pays. Sorry, Pat, that is just untrue. You are sounding like the public relations drone for Bell. Flat-rate services were a choice, not a requirement. You had choices of what level you needed too. > I can't say that I benefitted from measured service here (in fact I > wound up paying more than before by quite a bit) but it is a lot > fairer to the 99 percent of the public who does not use modems or stay > on a phone connection for hours at a time each day. PAT] 99%? You are telling us that 99% of the phone users in 1990's have benefitted from measured service? I'd love to see those statistics. Pat, I know you love to defend the corporations while they are, at the same time, sucking you dry, but c'mon ol buddy, lets get real. This is the 1990's. Everyone uses the phone. The days of granny in her apartment who made five calls a month are, for the most part, history. And your modem calls have not driven you bankrupt. You and I make virtually all our modem calls to local, untimed numbers. Telcom instituted measured service to make more money, not to save money for users. Period! To suggest that the majority of telephone subscribers are better off with measured service than they were with call-paks and calling plans, is absurd. What has happened is that our choice over the most economical plans have been removed. In their place is public relations jive. Pat, I love your Digest, and we are personal friends, but when I hear you preach of how benevolent telecommunications corporations are and how much better we all are off because of their actions, I have to jump in and say 'wake up'. William Pfeiffer - Moderator/Editor Recrec.radio.broadcasting - Airwaves Radio Journal - Internet email - Article Submission: articles@airwaves.chi.il.us Subscription Desk: subscribe@airwaves.chi.il.us ------------------------------ From: Cliff Sharp Date: Sat, Jan 15 23:49:54 1994 Subject: Re: Unmetered Local Service In article our Esteemed Moderator writes: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The thing Jack Decker and other pro- > ponents of flat rate billing seem to forget or ignore is that in most > instances of measured billing, the majority of telephone subscribers > actually pay LESS for service than with flat rate. A small minority > of the users -- mainly people with telephone intensive lifestyles such > as modem users -- pay more. Where flat rate service exists, the rate Now, waaaaait a minute. When Call-Pak Unlimited disappeared from the Chicago area, my calling patterns changed dramatically. The very first month of measured service, I went from 3500 units to 800, and my bill _doubled_ from around $40 to over $80. My average bill today is about $120, custom features excluded; the way I figure it, over ten times what I used to pay per unit. In any event, the smallest bill we've had since was much larger than the largest bill we had during the Call-Pak days. I have yet to meet _anyone_, even the little old lady downstairs with a retirement income who seldom calls anyone, whose bill went down when Call-Pak disappeared. (Perhaps you'll be the first?) A few people told me their bills went up only 50% or so; one only went up 25-30%. My modem line is NOT included in the current $120 figure; perhaps I should add in the $60 I spend on that to even it out, since I used one line for everything in the Call-pak days. (Make it $40 to remove the charges for the second line. That keeps everything down to about 13 times the original cost.) > I can't say that I benefitted from measured service here (in fact I > wound up paying more than before by quite a bit) but it is a lot > fairer to the 99 percent of the public who does not use modems or stay > on a phone connection for hours at a time each day. PAT] Guess you won't be the first (see above) after all ... I still can't see why it costs me more for a one-hour, 2 AM modem call across town than it costs Mabel down the street for a prime-time half-hour yap with Gert across town. It certainly costs the phone company a LOT less, in raw dollars as well as in actual resource allocation. (Non-Chicago-area folks: the 9 PM to 8 AM discount is 40%.) Cliff Sharp clifto@indep1.chi.il.us WA9PDM ------------------------------ From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Re: Unmetered Local Service Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 09:00:00 CST Some responses are in order on this cold day in Hell ... for the past 39 hours (Friday about 6 PM through Sunday at 9 AM) the temperature in Chicago and suburbs has been sub-zero with a drop to fourteen below zero Friday overnight into Saturday morning; a 'high' temperature of two below zero Saturday and eleven below last night. We're told things may 'warm up' to the single digits today. None the less, it warms my heart to read messages from you guys singling out telco as the one utility service which you feel should be an exception to the 'pay for what you use' rule. Would you like to pay for your electrical service based on some average amount that all your neighbors, including the big factory across town uses? The factory would love having the electric bill averaged out to some community-wide fee per month. Would you object to paying a flat rate for your gas or your water based on some amount which includes the public laundry down the street with all the washers and dryers running all the time? Betcha the owner of the laundry would consider it to be 'fair'. Jack Decker agrees with me that frequently (but only 'at first' in his opinion) the costs to many subscribers are lower, and on this point he apparently would be in disagreement with Bill Pfieffer and Cliff Sharp who feel the bills always are more. Jack says the catch is that telco is willing to promote what is sometimes called a 'loss-leader' in order to later present a more palatable dinner to the regulators. It is easier to get them to go along with a half-pence or so here and there than a dollar or two per month. Jack contends that the use of the phone does not affect telco's costs, and while that is partly true (and more true than it is in the case of the gas, electric or water utilities, all of whom have to obtain and pay for (or 'manufacture' in the case of electricity) the product they are passing along), it is not entirely true since the size and extent of the *common equipment* telco must install and maintain DOES depend on the extent to which it is used. The general public does not know this, but I would expect most telecom readers to realize that telco does not have wires from every phone to every other phone and that said wires sit there idle in between calls. The common equipment is continually being swapped around among users of the moment. Typically, a telco has the physical capacity to serve only about ten to fifteen percent of its customers at any one time. If its customers tie up the common equipment for long periods of time then more common equipment is needed. Consider the car rental business: Hertz had a couple million customers last year. They do not own a couple million cars, but rather, they own a few thousand vehicles which are constantly being shuffled around among customers and locations (where the company operates) to meet the demand at the company's busiest times. Ditto with telco. While Fred G. seems to think it is equally absurd to charge by the letters in one's last name as it is to charge by the amount of usage, he ignores the fact that one's name has no relevance to one's use of the phone while one's use of the phone has a direct relevance to the amount of equipment telco must maintain to make it all work right. I agree with Fred that my name has no bearing on anything, but the fact that I have tied up a circuit between Skokie and Evanston for awhile typing out this answer does have a bearing on the cost. Jack suggests looking at Europe where 'costs are considerably higher'. Yes, they are higher in Europe (where they also have virtual monopoly phone service in a few countries), and yes phone charges are higher in any event. But this is not due to measured service, it is due to the lack of technological development in telecom. You don't wait three years to get phone service in the USA as you do in some places in Europe either. In general, phones cost more and provide less value in Europe than in the USA regardless of how the bill is calculated. Bill Pfieffer does not recall 'any votes in Chicago' and that is because there were no votes taken. But the Consumer's Utility Board (known locally as CUB) which functions as a citizen's 'watchdog' of the state regulators (the Illinois Commerce Commission) said they liked the idea of measured service for the simple reason that the old plan (a combination of measured and unmeasured 'local community service' plus area-wide metro 'call-pak' and 'unlimited call-pak' service was grossly unfair to the suburbanites while being overly generous to residents of Chicago. I would agree in general with Jack Decker's side note about 'consumer groups with their own axes to grind' and was very surprised to find myself in basic agreement with CUB's premises at the time. As Bill points out, we now have an 'eight mile local zone' in which residence calls cost but a single 'unit' and are untimed. A 'unit' is roughly three to four cents and we get discounts on this based on the time of day and the number of units used per month. The local zone is all the exchanges in the central office serving you plus all the exchanges in the contiguous central offices. All of northern Illinois (not just Chicago) is now under this plan. What Bill says is true: the subscribers who live along the lakefront do not get eight miles to the east since there are no central offices out in Lake Michigan, but they do get eight miles north, south and west. Under the old plans, there were a number of flaws which made them unfair to various users. For example, every user had untimed local calling with calls *in the corporate limits of his community* rated at one message 'unit'. Talk one minute or talk all day, no matter. For people in Golf, Illinois (a tiny village right next to Skokie) that meant one exchange, and a distance of five blocks from one side of the village to the other. For people in Chicago, that meant a distance of *thirty miles* from one side of town to the other at the most extreme angles of direction; easily 25 miles for everyone else and dozens (in those days) of exchanges. Under the old local plan, we got 80 'units' per month to use as we saw fit as part of the monthly fee. You could make 80 (or 120, 180 or 240) local calls or some lesser number of calls to other communities with the number of 'units' charged being based on time connected plus distance. That part was fair enough, but if one decided to get 'unlimited call pak' (the next step above 240 units) because one was on the phone a lot, then guess what? If you were calling anywhere outside the so-called 'inner met area' your units didn't matter ... those calls were coin-rated, and your units were wasted. Grandma might not use a single one of her 80 units allotted as part of her monthly bill, but every Sunday afternoon when she called Bill's friend Junior out in Aurora she'd get nipped for forty cents in coins. Under the old, highly-touted (by some people, and admittedly while I lived in Chicago-proper I was one such person) 'unlimited call pak plans' all the plans were heavily biased in favor of Chicago residents to the detriment of the suburbanites. All the plans used as their territory a starting point of State and Madison Streets in downtown Chicago then expanded outward in rings or circles. The 'inner met area' was 28 miles *from downtown Chicago* in any direc- tion. That was fine if you were in downtown Chicago or even anywhere in Chicago. The poor guy who lived in Wheaton, Illinois could call *anywhere* to the east/northeast/southeast on that plan but if he wanted to call west/northwest/southwest he had about three or four city blocks he could call under the unlimited plan then *his* calls became coin-rated for westerly points. The next size unlimited call-pak went forty miles *from downtown Chicago* and picked up such places as Aurora, Illinois on the outer edge of (what was then 312 and now is 708) plus bits here and there of 815. Well, that was fine until you moved to Fox Lake, Aurora, Zion, or Joliet to name a few examples. Then you were on the outer edge of the 'outer-met unlimited call-pak area' and you could call north and east all you wanted but not south or west (if Zion or way up north then the reverse was true; you got calls south and to a limited extent west, but being on the lake you got nothing east and you bumped into the Wisconsin state line a mile or two north of you and a whole new LATA). So people living in the outer suburbs had quite a choice for phone service: local area which gave them their puny little town with all of one or two exchanges or they could get 'outer-met unlimited service' based on rates and mileage from downtown Chicago from which they were already removed by forty miles or so. There was no inbetween type plan for those people. A very sensible plan was developed where the entire northern Illinois area would be treated as one large metro area for local calling. All 'local' zones would be relative to where you were actually at and all 'local' zones would be the same size regardless of what town you actually lived in. Everyone across northern Illinois gets eight miles in any direction from them. Telco does not choose who lives by the lake and who lives elsewhere. Anyway, as a side note, along the lake is **so bad** now in terms of nasty people, nasty violent crimes, drug sales, run-down and horrible housing, etc I can't imagine why anyone would live there; I'll sure never return to Chicago/Rogers Park having had a taste of Skokie! But, we get eight miles in any geographically possible direction, we pay three or four cents per *call* for these (or less depending on time of day and volume of calls per month dis- counts) and we pay progressively more for each cluster of phones in eight mile groups beyond that. What could be fairer to *everyone* in a large metro area than that? That is, assuming you agree with my premise that the number and duration of calls does cost telco *something* even if the analogy to gas and electric service is not entirely right. Part of the problem is the government did not lay out all the villages and towns on a checkerboard pattern with the same population in each town and the same boundary lines, etc. We have some real weird layouts here and any 'local flatrate in your own community' type plan would never be fair. I agree they might have as an alternative developed some additional 'unlimited call-pak' plans with concentric rings whose centers were in places other than (in addition to) smack-dab in downtown Chicago favoring downtowners at the (increasing) expense of all other residents as far away from downtown as you went, but they did not. Instead they developed a checkerboard pattern with each person getting his own square and the squares on any side of him. The rates *were* reduced (under the old plans, 'units' cost 5.5 cents each where now they cost between 3-4 cents depending on how many and time of day) and the suburbanites gained some equality with the city people. Of course modem users *in the city* who had previously been able to call *anywhere else in the city* for that 5.5 cents per call (with a bundle of 80/120/180/240) as part of the prepaid package now lost large chunks of the city in exchange for picking up in many cases quite a few suburbs in the process at 3.5 cents per call, but the suburbanites in many cases doubled or tripled the territory they could call for their 5.5 cents at a new rate of 3.5 cents. Instead of a choice between very local and limited 'flatrate' service at a cheap cost or an area-wide plan which cost a fortune and only included calls aimed in the direction of downtown Chicago, suburbanites now get to call anywhere in their 'square' or the 'squares' around them at a decent rate. For telco, the switch from flatrate to measured was more or less revenue neutral here. The fact that phone bills are higher now is because we are using the phone more now than we were even ten years ago. The modem users disliked it because frankly, quite a few were accustomed to calling BBS's (in those days Internet connectivity was virtually zilch, we all dealt only with small systems around the area) all over the metro area -- a distance of several hundred square miles -- and staying on line for an hour at a time. And you can't tell me that the 'average' phone user spends an hour at a time, several times per day, or even several times per week) calling to a point 30-40 miles away. The fact is we can say in voice to one another in a minute or two that which takes 15-20 minutes or longer to type in via email or a message and most people do NOT construct stuff off line then call in to deliver it. They call the system they are using and construct their message then and there. That's why modem connections are going to be inherently longer than voice connections, and that is why the modem users screamed about measured service, for the same reason the factory would love to have its electric and water usage on flat rate instead of meter. So often, 'what is best' is an applications-driven thing. Our old plans here *sucked* -- they were great for inner city Chicagoans and lousy for everyone else with the exception of heavy volume residential users in certain particular locations such as (go ahead and admit it Bill and Jack) inner-city modem users. Some phone customers here such as modem users calling all over the metro area and hanging on for hours at a time got a free ride for years. Now instead, Grandma gets to call Aurora or Zion without seeing a forty cent per minute coin-rated charge on her bill. So there is no mistake in where I am coming from, measured service costs me MORE -- much more, and I do not like it *for myself*, but overall, if you care about the rest of the greater metropolitan community, it is fairer this way. Patrick Townson ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V14 #33 *****************************