olc [1]: Reason for this meeting This meeting is the repository for outside people to find out about OLC and make requests for sources, etc. -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [2]: just a test To: olc-mtg@matisse.LOCAL Date: Mon, 06 Feb 89 22:36:16 EST From: Tom Coppeto -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [3]: request for source From: Xev Gittler Subject: Re: OLC To: tjcoppet@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 20 Jun 24 14:08:00 GMT-28910532:16 In-Reply-To: <8901192205.AA23836@DELWIN.MIT.EDU>; from "Jon Rochlis" at Jan 19, 89 5:05 pm X-Mailer: Elm [version 2.1 PL1] > > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 89 14:43:49 EST > From: Xev Gittler > > > Are you the people that developed OLC, and is the source available > publically? > Thanks > > Xev Gittler > xg00%gte.com@relay.cs.net > > Two sipb members (Bill Saphir and Dan Morgan) did the initial version > of Athena's Unix olc. It is currently maintained by Tom Coppeto > (tjcoppet@athena.mit.edu) ... > > -- Jon > Is there some way I can obtain the sources to OLC. I think it is a very handy program when there are user problems, and am very interested in running it at my site. -- Xev Gittler xg00@gte.com, or xg00%gte.com@relay.cs.net -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [4]: request for source From: Jim Frew Posted-Date: 6 Feb 1989 1112-PST (Monday) Date: 6 Feb 1989 1112-PST (Monday) To: olc@athena.mit.edu Cc: frew%crseo@hub.ucsb.edu Subject: Re: OLC: Online Consulting System Please keep me informed regarding the availabilty of the OLC software. Thanks. #-------------------------------+--------------------------------------- # James Frew | frew@crseo.ucsb.EDU # Computer Systems Lab / CRSEO | frew@ucsbuxa.BITNET # University of California | ucbvax!ucsbcsl!frew # Santa Barbara, CA 93106 | +1 805 961 8413 -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [5]: request for source Date: Mon, 6 Feb 89 00:15:49 PST From: dauith@dhw68k.cts.com (David B. Shapiro) To: olc@athena.mit.edu Subject: olc info request I was unfortunately unable to attend the work-in-progress presentation on the On-Line Consultant project given at Usenix. A friend who did attend gave me this address as a source for information. What else can I say--I'd like to hear what you've got to say! David Shapiro 5294 Vista del Sol Cypress CA 90630 UUCP: ...{hplabs, trwrb}!felix!dhw68k!dauith Internet: dauith@dhw68k.cts.com -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [6]: Please add From: jrs@magic.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Schwab) To: olc-request@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Wed, 08 Feb 89 15:51:09 EST Please add jrs@ea.ecn.purdue.edu to the olc mailing list. Jeff -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [7]: Information on on-line consulting To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 09 Feb 89 13:53:06 -0800 From: buc@jessica.Stanford.EDU As mentioned at USENIX, could you provide any information on the consulting system mentioned. Thank you. Robert Richards AIR/IRIS Stanford University -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [8]: OLC Date: Thu, 9 Feb 89 12:16:43 EST From: Xev Gittler To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU I know I talked to you before, but I thought I'd tell you again, that I am interested in OLC as soon as it becomes available. echo -n "Startup ... sets ... " set ignoreeof set prmt=">" set mail=(30 /usr/spool/mail/root) cd . echo -n "setenvs ... " umask 077 stty dec setenv EDITOR emacs setenv TERMCAP /etc/termcap setenv MAIL /usr/spool/mail/xg00 setenv PRINTER tcc1 setenv ORGNAME "GTE Laboratories" setenv TEXINPUTS .:/usr4/xg00/TeX/macros:/usr/local/lib/tex/inputs echo "done." clear set term=vt200;tset stty -tabs biff y elm -z date echo " " uptime echo " " finger fortune -a msgs -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [9]: Bug in canceling question in olc From: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 89 16:21:19 EST To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU OLC will not let you cancel a quetsion if you respond "YES" to the question on canceling instead of "yes". This is probably a four letter bug fix. (can you guess the routine name...) Ezra -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [11]: No subject found in mail header From: To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Sat, 04 Mar 89 21:19:40 EST I am having quite a bit of problem with rs1, how can I make sure my files or rather tables or not all garbaged by no? I can't seem to be able to send messages to olc either -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [12]: Scheme question From: To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 09 Mar 89 16:14:36 EST Hello, I am a new user who would like to run Scheme for 6.001 on Athena. I have copies of the Scheme documents: Essential Scheme ATHENA.README from /mit/scheme and I have spoken with a number of OLC's about the problems/ confusion I 'm experiencing. All I want to do is start and run Scheme, but I can't make any sense of the documentation. Starting on page 3 of Ess Scheme, I "attach scheme" -- no problems I then start emacs: "emacs ps.scm &" -- no problems I even get a message like "loading scheme" at the bottom of the new emacs window. I then try "C-u M-x run-scheme " as described on page 4 of Ess Scheme and in the README file. At this point I become lost. I get a message like " loading xscheme ... " at the bottom of the emacs window which is followed a message in the emacs window "Run Scheme: scheme -emacs". I hit return and get the following in the emacs buffer: This is the Scheme process buffer. Type.... . . . then read /mit/scheme/ATHENA.... I don't get the advertised opportunity to type: "/mit/scheme/vaxbin/scm6001-em" as indicated in ATHENA.README document and Ess Scheme document. Any help full comments? -Randall D. Manteufel -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [16]: Re 'describe' From: Date: Thu, 13 Apr 89 11:33:34 EDT To: olc-request@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Cc: cfyi@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Please have forward -comment prompt for the comment (as 'done' does). Please implement a one-line-per-question-including-the-comment display. (Jonathan suggests having OLC display this way if the window in which the listing was requested is wide enough; else returning the double-line listing.) -- beth -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [22]: No subject found in mail header From: To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 04 May 89 14:47:53 EDT It would be really nice, if there were some supported way, to take an olc answer and write it to a file. Many times answers are just too complex to digest or memorize in one reading. Instead, I would have to use all sorts of cut-and-paste to save the info. . -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [53]: Forwarded message: Received: from MIT.MIT.EDU by picasso.MIT.EDU (5.60/1.1) id AA05483; Fri, 9 Feb 90 09:33:41 EST Received: from AQUA.WHOI.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA10401; Fri, 9 Feb 90 09:33:28 EST Received: from RED.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by aqua.whoi.edu (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA09976; Fri, 9 Feb 90 09:03:40 EST Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 09:03:39 EST Message-Id: <9002091403.AA09976@aqua.whoi.edu> From: lib_cml1%red.span@AQUA.WHOI.EDU To: "tjcoppet@mit.edu"@AQUA.WHOI.EDU Cc: LIB_CML1@AQUA.WHOI.EDU Subject: Project Athena's OLC Last October I attended your talk on the OLC you presented at SIGUCCS. I contacted you by e-mail after that conference and you said you would be demoing the OLC at EDUCOM, only I didn't attend that meeting. Are you still looking for beta test sites for the OLC? We may be getting a Project Athena hook-up here (the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution); negotiations are under way. If so, I would be able to see the OLC first hand. In any case, I'd like to follow up as a beta site for our VAXes and/or PC and Sun Networks. When you get a chance, please let me know where you are with sharing the OLC. My thanks, Chris Lynch (CLYNCH@RED.WHOI.EDU) User Services Coordinator for WHOI's Information Processing & Communications Lab (IPCL) -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [54]: forwarded message To: postmaster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Subject: Forward Please Date: Fri, 26 Jan 90 18:55:55 EST From: Herb Lee Hi Postmaster, Could you please forward the following message to the person you judge to be the most likely to be able to handle it (possibly to the Athena Project Director's office, for referal)? Thanks very much for your help. Subject: On-Line Consulting From: Herb Lee Manager, Network Services Information Technology Services Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Troy, NY 12180 email: leehm@rpi.edu phone: 518-276-8172 Hi, I've heard about an on-line conferencing facility, which I believe was developed as part of or in conjunction with the Athena project (George Champine spoke about it when he visited our campus). We are looking for existing software which we might be able to use in support of an on-line consulting service. There are several new remote public workstation sites being contemplated at RPI, and an electronic interactive approach to handling questions seems very productive. Do you have some documentation which describes your system? I would be interested both in user documentation as well as any design and technical specifications which might have been written. If it is available for anonymous ftp, we can easily retrieve it that way. I am also interested in obtaining a guest account, so that we can sign on and experience use of the facility first hand. I have a small budget for this project, and I'd be happy to open an external account if necessary. Thanks very much for your help in this. I realize the request is something of an imposition, but I'm hoping that we can save significant startup time if we can find a well designed existing solution. Hopefully RPI can reciprocate in some way in the future! Thanks again! /Herb Lee -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [55]: forwarded message Date: Thu, 04 Oct 90 14:43:18 EDT From: vanharen@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Hi, I am interested in obtaining the olc system for use on our system. I was told it was public domain software, and wanted to know whether it is available on an anonymous ftp server. Is there anyone there who I can talk to and get more info on the system? Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gary Kakazu Direct replies to: /dev/null Technical Consultant Cornell National Supercomputer Facility whk@cornellf.tn.cornell.edu -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [56]: Re: forwarded message Talked to him on the phone; he's got a copy now. -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [57]: help building olc To: info-olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Tue, 30 Oct 90 11:14:49 -0500 From: kakazu@sqrt.TN.CORNELL.EDU Hi, I downloaded the file olc71.tar.Z from fionavar.mit.edu several months ago and tried to build olc on my machine (an IBM 3090 running AIX/370). The README file in the src directory said to "make world" if I wanted everything built. However, the definition for all in the Makefile is blank, so make stops without building anything. Is there a more recent version of olc which corrects this problem? I couldn't find olc on fionavar anymore. Is olc located on another machine? Many thanks for any help you can offer. Gary Kakazu kakazu@sqrt.tn.cornell.edu -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [58]: Re: help building olc I've exchanged mail with him- he needed some help getting the imake files set up. -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [69]: file info.c in /mit/olcdev/src/clients/lib From: kkkken@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Jan 91 21:15:11 -0500 To: info-olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU File info.c in /mit/olcdev/src/clients/lib appears not to be used any longer; I suspect its functionality has been taken over by status.c. Should it be removed? Kenneth J. Duda MIT Network Services Member, Student Information Processing Board -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [86]: [cball@bu-it.bu.edu: Source request] From: jon@MIT.EDU (Jon A. Rochlis) To: cball@bu.edu, info-olc@MIT.EDU Cc: info-athena@MIT.EDU Date: Fri, 29 Mar 91 18:23:22 EST athena-dist is the right place to look for kerberos, discuss, and zephyr. They may not the most recent versions but they should be good enough, sometimes it takes a while to package things for external consumption. info-olc may be able to help you with olc source availablity. ------- Forwarded Message To: info-athena@MIT.EDU Subject: Source request Date: Fri, 29 Mar 91 09:39:06 -0500 From: cball@bu-it.bu.edu Hello, There is considerable interest in a number of athena components here in Boston University's OIT. Several staff members attended a conference on User Services this past Wednesday; OLC was discussed in some detail and they have asked that I implement a local demonstration. Their understanding was the the software is readily available today. As I understand it, OLC would require kerberos, discuss, and zephyr. I've looked on athena-dist.mit.edu. Kerberos, discuss, and zephyr are all there, but have not been modified since '89, and I was unable to locate olc code or documentation other than what I had from the 89 Usenix papers. Can you provide additional information? Thank you, Charles Ball Systems Programming, Information Tech. cball@bu.edu 353-2780 ------- End of Forwarded Message -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [88]: [heft@husc10.harvard.edu (Thomas W. Heft): The source code for OLC] From: jon@MIT.EDU (Jon A. Rochlis) To: info-olc@MIT.EDU Cc: info-athena@MIT.EDU, heft@husc10.harvard.edu (Thomas W. Heft) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 91 16:20:41 EDT This one if for you ... ------- Forwarded Message Date: Wed, 17 Apr 91 16:04:18 -0400 From: heft@husc10.harvard.edu (Thomas W. Heft) Message-Id: <9104172004.AA02344@husc10.harvard.edu> To: info-athena@MIT.EDU Subject: The source code for OLC Hi, I have a copy of the slides that were presented at last weeks Athena conference. I am interested in getting the source and documentation for the On=line consulting program. One of the slides says that I can ftp the stuff I want from athena-dist.mit.edu in the pub/olc directory. However, there is not olc directory. Is there are reason for this? Can I ftp it from elsewhere? Thanks a lot, Tom Heft heft@husc9.harvard.edu ------- End of Forwarded Message -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [89]: Interest in OLC from PA Technical Conference - may be duplicate, Larry To: info-olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 18 Apr 91 17:33:33 EDT From: Larry Koolkin ------- Forwarded Message Received: by ATHENA-PO-3.MIT.EDU (5.45/4.7) id AA08799; Thu, 18 Apr 91 08:40:32 EST Received: from PANDORA.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA03046; Thu, 18 Apr 91 09:40:27 EDT From: cavril@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Received: by pandora.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA13204; Thu, 18 Apr 91 09:40:24 -0400 Message-Id: <9104181340.AA13204@pandora.MIT.EDU> To: beth@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, koolkin@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, thom@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Subject: request for OLC Date: Thu, 18 Apr 91 09:40:22 EDT - ------- Forwarded Message Received: by ATHENA-PO-2.MIT.EDU (5.45/4.7) id AA10127; Wed, 17 Apr 91 15:05:46 EST Received: from husc10.harvard.edu by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA26769; Wed, 17 Apr 91 16:05:28 EDT Date: Wed, 17 Apr 91 16:04:18 -0400 From: heft@husc10.harvard.edu (Thomas W. Heft) Message-Id: <9104172004.AA02344@husc10.harvard.edu> To: info-athena@MIT.EDU Subject: The source code for OLC Hi, I have a copy of the slides that were presented at last weeks Athena conference. I am interested in getting the source and documentation for the On=line consulting program. One of the slides says that I can ftp the stuff I want from athena-dist.mit.edu in the pub/olc directory. However, there is not olc directory. Is there are reason for this? Can I ftp it from elsewhere? Thanks a lot, Tom Heft heft@husc9.harvard.edu - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- End of Forwarded Message -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [91]: Re: Getting OLC From: jdaly@ATHENA.MIT.EDU To: info-olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Cc: info-athena@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, sandro@rpi.edu In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 19 Apr 91 00:50:44 -0400. Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 09:03:18 EDT Sandro- I'm forwarding your query to info-olc. They'll be able to help. Janet Daly Project Athena Received: by ATHENA-PO-2.MIT.EDU (5.45/4.7) id AA16067; Thu, 18 Apr 91 23:52:21 EST Received: from its.rpi.edu by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA15182; Fri, 19 Apr 91 00:52:09 EDT Received: from sub.its.rpi.edu (jec4a.its.rpi.edu) by its.rpi.edu (4.1/RPI-ITS-HUB21); id AA20110; Fri, 19 Apr 91 00:50:54 EDT for info-athena@athena.mit.edu Received: from daniel.its.rpi.edu by sub.its.rpi.edu (4.1/RPI-ITS-SUB12); id AA09917; Fri, 19 Apr 91 00:50:09 EDT for info-athena@athena.mit.edu Message-Id: <9104190450.AA09917@sub.its.rpi.edu> To: info-athena@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Subject: Getting OLC Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 00:50:44 EDT From: Sandro D. Wallach I heard lots of great things about OLC at the conference last week, but it's not available for FTP. How can we get a copy to look at and possibly start using? Thanks for any info you can give me. (I'm also interesting in several other things I saw that are not distributed, from NEOS to the fun little map of available workstations, but OLC is at the top of our list.) Thanks again. -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [92]: Re: Getting OLC From: lwvanels@MIT.EDU Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91 09:07:01 -0400 To: sandro@rpi.edu Cc: jdaly@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, info-olc@MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: jdaly@ATHENA.MIT.EDU's message of Fri, 19 Apr 91 09:03:18 EDT <9104191303.AA16808@elysianfields.MIT.EDU> Hi Sandro- Sorry the delay in making OLC available by FTP; I had hoped to have it on athena-dist this past weekend, but it did not make it there until yesterday. You should now be able get the documentation, source code, and sample configuration files for OLC via anonymous ftp from athena-dist.mit.edu from the directory pub/olc. I hope you find it useful! -Lucien Van Elsen -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [100]: release of olc Date: Mon, 22 Apr 91 11:50:03 PDT From: Michael O'Connell To: info-olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU I'm interested in running olc on some systems here at the U of Washington in Seattle. Can you tell me about the availability of olc and any requirements it has for other parts of the Athena environment? Thanks. Michael O'Connell mikeo@ms.washington.edu Math Sciences Computing Center (206) 543-6303 U of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [101]: Re: release of olc From: lwvanels@MIT.EDU Date: Mon, 22 Apr 91 22:49:52 -0400 To: mikeo@ms.washington.edu Cc: info-olc@MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: [0100] Hello- The olc sources and documentation are available for anonymous ftp from athena-dist.mit.edu (18.71.0.38) in the directory pub/olc. The source and the documentation are packaged in separate, compressed tar files called "olc_dist.tar.Z" and "olc_doc.tar.Z". There is no requirement for any other part of the Athena environment to have the basic functionality of OLC; however, it does use the other Athena services (hesiod, zephyr, kerberos) to provide additional features if they are available. A more complete discussion of what you get without the Athena services can be found in the file "doc/guides/install.tex" in the doc distribution. I hope OLC proves useful for you- if you have any other questions, please let us know. -Lucien Van Elsen -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [102]: No subject found in mail header Date: Wed, 1 May 91 03:37:18 -0500 From: nabors@bart.MIT.EDU To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: May 1, 1991 FROM: Shari Nabors (nabors@wes.army.mil) Waterways Experiment Station 601-634-2588 RE: OLC Installation on an IBM RS 6000 To whom it may concern: I am getting ready to install OLC on a RS 6000. Can you tell me if there are any specifics that need to be done during installation for this machine. I will not complete the installation until I've heard from you. Thank you very much for your assistance. Sincerely, Shari Nabors -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [103]: No subject found in mail header Date: Thu, 2 May 91 03:17:38 -0500 From: nabors@bart.MIT.EDU To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: May 2, 1991 FROM: Shari Nabors (nabors@wes.army.mil) Waterways Experiment Station 601-634-2588 RE: OLC Installation on an IBM RS 6000 To whom it may concern: I am installing OLC on a RS 6000. I do not want to use Gcc instead of cc and I wonder if I should set HaveZephyr, HaveKerberos, and HaveHesoid to 1 since it was noted that those three files are need. Therefore, what should I set these files to in the site.def file. I also want to know if it's necessary to remove the comments from the entire file. Thank you very much for your assistance. Sincerely, Shari Nabors -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [104]: OLC build question Date: Sun, 5 May 91 18:53:18 PDT From: Peter_Van_Epp@cc.sfu.ca To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU I have started to try and bring up OLC on a SPARC Station 1 (running 4.0.3) with no other Athena services. I have hit two snags so far (and the second one has stopped me so far!). The first one is (as I recall I forgot to log it) a make or Imake error at line 205 of the wcl makefile if have_wcl is set to 0 (I'll redo this later and log and report it) the error message was something about unexpected comment in Makefile. The one that has me stopped is the following: ............. making all in ./server/polld... cc -O -I../.././include -DLOG -DSYSLOG -DPUTENV -DNEEDS_ERRNO_DEFS -sun4 -c comm.c cc -O -I../.././include -DLOG -DSYSLOG -DPUTENV -DNEEDS_ERRNO_DEFS -sun4 -c get_list.c cc -O -I../.././include -DLOG -DSYSLOG -DPUTENV -DNEEDS_ERRNO_DEFS -sun4 -c locate.c cc -O -I../.././include -DLOG -DSYSLOG -DPUTENV -DNEEDS_ERRNO_DEFS -sun4 -c polld.c cc -O -I../.././include -DLOG -DSYSLOG -DPUTENV -DNEEDS_ERRNO_DEFS -sun4 -c hosthash.c rm -f polld cc -o polld comm.o get_list.o locate.o polld.o hosthash.o ../.././common/libcommon.a ../.././clients/lib/libclient.a -L/usr/athena/lib -lcom_err ld: -lcom_err: No such file or directory Indeed there doesn't seem to be anything like com_err anywheres in the source tree. I must admit to using the Imake and makedepend out of Kerberos rather than the X11 distribution if that matters any, the config/site.def changed parts are as follows: #define TestInstall 1 #define DebugBuild 0 #define HaveGcc 0 #define HaveZephyr 0 #define HaveKerberos 0 #define HaveHesiod 0 #define HaveDiscuss 0 #define HaveMotif 0 #define HaveSysWrited 0 #define HaveSysWCL 1 #define DoLogging 1 /* Log requests to daemons */ #define DoUsageLog 0 /* Log usage of clients */ #define UseSyslog 1 #define AthenaCompat 0 Any suggestions? I'll continue looking at this in case I have done something stupid in the Imake process. -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [105]: OLC build question From: lwvanels@MiT.eDu Date: Mon, 6 May 91 10:54:44 -0400 To: Peter_Van_Epp@cc.sfu.ca Cc: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: Peter_Van_Epp@cc.sfu.ca's message of Sun, 5 May 91 18:53:18 PDT <3102287@cc.sfu.ca> Hello- My apologies; there's an error in the server/polld Imakefile that causes the com_err library to be included when it shouldn't be. The com_err library is only used with zephyr or kerberos (and is included in the distributions for those packages). Here's the patch to that Imakefile: *** /tmp/,RCSt1013659 Mon May 6 10:47:03 1991 --- Imakefile Mon May 6 10:43:11 1991 *************** *** 30,36 **** #if HaveKerberos || HaveZephyr SYS_LIBRARIES= $(HesiodLib) $(ZephyrLib) $(KerberosLib) $(ComErrLib) #else ! SYS_LIBRARIES= $(HesiodLib) $(ZephyrLib) $(KerberosLib) $(ComErrLib) #endif NormalProgramTarget(polld,$(OBJS),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),$(SYS_LIBRARIES)) --- 30,36 ---- #if HaveKerberos || HaveZephyr SYS_LIBRARIES= $(HesiodLib) $(ZephyrLib) $(KerberosLib) $(ComErrLib) #else ! SYS_LIBRARIES= $(HesiodLib) $(ZephyrLib) $(KerberosLib) #endif NormalProgramTarget(polld,$(OBJS),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),$(LOCAL_LIBRARIES),$(SYS_LIBRARIES)) I'm working on getting a preliminary set of patches to the distribution together which includes the bugfixes to the distribution (thanks to all of you who have sent them in!) as well as the changes that resulted from our port of it to the IBM RS6000. I'll be announcing how to get it on this list later this week. -Lucien Lucien Van Elsen | lwvanels@athena.mit.edu Systems Programmer | (617) 253-0110 Distributed Systems | -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [106]: Patches to OLC available From: lwvanels@MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 9 May 91 07:57:41 -0400 To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Reply-To: lwvanels@mit.edu A first set of patches to the OLC distribution is available. These cover: - Changes from the IBM RS6000 port of OLC - Fixed Imakefiles for the wcl and server/writed directories - Fixed Imakefile for server/polld directory; was including the com_err library when it shoudln't have been. - Fixing alignment problems on the Sun4 - Changes to install rules when TestInstall is set to install binaries in separate athena directories, to make layering Athena services on a vendor operating system easier. - Made the configuration of the usage logging more flexible. - minor bugfixes throughout the code A description of all of the changes and instructions for their use is included with the patches. The patch, "patch1a", is available for anonymous ftp from fionavar.mit.edu (18.72.0.96) in the pub/olc/patch directory. My thanks to Randall Winchester, Peter Van Epp, Erik Kay, and others who have sent in bug reports and fixes- -Lucien Lucien Van Elsen | lwvanels@athena.mit.edu Systems Programmer | (617) 253-0110 Distributed Systems | -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [107]: Where can I get Mu library? Date: 9 May 91 15:42 EST From: ZIRIN@ACAE.dnet.ge.com To: OLC@ATHENA.MIT.EDU The OLC site.def refers to the "Mu" library (MotifUtilLib). What is it? Where can I get it? Is it compatible with Motif1.1? -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [108]: Writed problems Date: Fri, 10 May 91 12:10:35 -0400 From: heft@husc10.harvard.edu (Thomas W. Heft) To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Hi, I am attempting to install OLC as a standalone product (i.e., no other Athena software) and have run into some problems getting "writed" to work. The first thing I noticed was that in the writed.c file, /bin/write is invoked with a "-f" option. Looking at the man page on my Ultrix machine, I could find no reference to that option. I changed the code in writed.c to not use that option, but now I have another problem. While looking at the writed code, it seemed that the writed assumed that the /bin/write program reads and writes to stdout and stdin. I looked at the source code for the Ultrix write program, and it appears to read and write directly to /dev/tty*. The devices are determined using the "ttyname()" function, but this function returns NULL, and the "/bin/write" program ends. My question is this, Am I supposed to get another version the the "write" program? If so, where can I get one? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom Heft heft@husc9.harvard.edu -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [109]: Patches to OLC available From: lwvanels@MIT.EDU Date: Wed, 15 May 91 17:11:58 -0400 To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Reply-To: lwvanels@mit.edu A second set of patches to the OLC distribution is available. These cover: - The sources to "libMu", a local set of motif routines used in XOLC. - The sources to "write", the network write client. A description of all of the changes and instructions for their use is included with the patches. The patch, "patch1b", is available for anonymous ftp from fionavar.mit.edu (18.72.0.96) in the pub/olc/patch directory. My thanks to Thomas Heft, Bob Zirin, and others who have sent in bug reports and fixes. -Lucien Lucien Van Elsen | lwvanels@athena.mit.edu Systems Programmer | (617) 253-0110 Distributed Systems | -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [110]: Can you tell me... Date: Wed, 15 May 91 18:15:26 From: cgant@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Christopher Gant) To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Cc: cgant@media-lab.media.mit.edu how to send a msg to all athena users? It's a listing for the (very terrific) apartment that I'm moving out of this next month. Also, are there other "bulleting boards" at MIT that I could post the notice on? Thanks for any help you can give, Chris Gant -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [111]: Is cref easily portable to IBM PCs? Date: Tue, 21 May 91 17:21:21 EDT From: klm@cme.nist.gov (Ken Manheimer) To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU I've just released the cref/olc_browser stuff for trial use on the Unix stations, and i'm wondering how much effort it would take to build the utility for (as the subject line indicates) IBM and clone PCs. We have a mixed environment of around 150 Unix workstations (mostly Suns, a few decstations), some Vaxen and Macintoshes, and over 50 IBM PCs. All the systems of interest are networked, and most (exclusing the Macs) participate in PC-NFS at least as a client. I would like to be able to have the PC folk use their PCs to run cref and olc_browser to browse (and potentially edit, though it looks like the alteration facilities in the version of cref that i have are still problematic) directory hierarchies that are NFS mounted directly onto the PCs. I have what's probably the most recent released version of cref, that came as part of version 3.0 (server, 3.0c client) release of the olc. BTW, i've almost got the olc entirely adapted for my site. I'm only aiming to use olcr and olc directly from Unix systems, with others addressing questions and getting responses through the email hooks. I'd be curious whether anyones even considering implementing an olc client for PCs that are on the ethernet, though i don't really expect anything much there... Thanks! Ken Manheimer Nat'l Inst of Standards and Technology klm@cme.nist.gov (301)975-3539 (Formerly Nat'l Bureau of Standards) Factory Automation Systems Division Unix Systems Support Manager I like time. It's one of my favorites. -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [112]: long distance Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 13:09:20 EDT From: bilal@loghost.sbi.com (Bilal Khan) To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU I don't know if you are of the policy of replying to long distance questions: i am bauhaus@athena.mit.edu, but for this summer I am bilal@hedge5.sbi.com (No telnets, ftp, or rlogins allowed out of here!) Anyway, in emacs, i frequently 'accidentally' hit a key sequence that makes the contents of all buffers show up as a vertical sequence of $ signs. The data seems to be still there, but the display mode is really screwy. Is there any way to rectify this? thanks. bilal. -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [115]: From: ellen@ecn.purdue.edu (Ellen Spoonamore) To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Mon, 24 Jun 91 14:27:50 EST Hello fellow olc people, I am new to this, so please bear with me. While setting up and trying to play with olc, I tried the option 'topic'. Like most unruly users, I decided to try out the option before knowing what it did. It seems that when you are not connected to a question, and you try to change the "current" topic to something, it kills the olcd daemon. After this, and then reading the man page, I do not think this is good :) As I was looking through the source, it seems that it never checks if you are connect to a question and assumes you are. I don't know if others have noticed this, or maybe I have something set up wrong. I would also like to know how others are coming along with getting olc working in their environment. . . As a side note, I currently have these set to '0'(from site.def): zephyr kerberos hesoid discuss motif syswrited syswcl dologging dousagelog athenacompat Thanks, Ellen -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [116]: Fix for topic change bug Date: Tue, 25 Jun 91 15:32:27 -0400 From: cross@eng.umd.edu (Chris P. Ross) To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU ellen@ecn.purdue.edu says: > Hello fellow olc people, > > I am new to this, so please bear with me. > > While setting up and trying to play with olc, I tried the option > 'topic'. Like most unruly users, I decided to try out the option before > knowing what it did. It seems that when you are not connected to a > question, and you try to change the "current" topic to something, it > kills the olcd daemon. After this, and then reading the man page, I do > not think this is good :) > > As I was looking through the source, it seems that it never checks if you > are connect to a question and assumes you are. I don't know if others > have noticed this, or maybe I have something set up wrong. I would also > like to know how others are coming along with getting olc working in > their environment. . . I found that I had the same problem. After spending some time trying various hack-like things, I finally got one that worked. I realize this probably isn't the best way to do things, and it might even break in some situation I haven't tried yet (no extensive testing has been done, but the simple stuff). But, this itty patch fixes the problem, or should. Someone let me know if there's a better way. Thanks. - Chris Ross This patch should be applied in the src/clients/parser directory of the olc source tree. *** p_topic.c.orig Fri Apr 19 02:18:47 1991 --- p_topic.c Tue Jun 25 15:14:41 1991 *************** *** 55,60 **** --- 55,61 ---- int status; int function = 0; int save_file = 0; + LIST list; if(fill_request(&Request) != SUCCESS) return(ERROR); *************** *** 138,144 **** break; case 2: ! status = t_change_topic(&Request,topic); break; } --- 139,150 ---- break; case 2: ! status = OWho(Request, &list); ! if (list.connected.uid >= 0) { ! status = t_change_topic(&Request,topic); ! } else { ! fprintf(stderr, "Cannot change topic, not connected to a question.\n"); ! } break; } -- Chris P. Ross University Of Maryland cross@eng.umd.edu Engineering Computer Facility Work#: (301)/405-3689 Project GLUE -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------ olc [120]: archive for this list To: olc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 22 Aug 91 11:27:27 -0500 From: "Sam Sampath" Hi, Does anyone maintain an archive for this list? If so, could you please put it in somewhere in the net so that I can ftp it. I would like to look at the old questions/comments/suggestions, before I start sending anything to this list. Thanks! -- sampath sampath@watson.ibm.com -------------------------- End of Transaction ------------------