Path: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nic.hookup.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!gatech!pitt!willett!ForthFAQ From: ForthFAQ@willett.pgh.pa.us (FAQ account for comp.lang.forth) Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth,comp.answers,news.answers Subject: Forth FAQ: Forth Implementations. (l/m 07.Nov.93) Message-ID: <4826.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us> Date: 15 Dec 93 01:39:47 GMT Expires: Wed, 22 Dec 93 23:59:59 EDT References: <4819.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us> Followup-To: poster Lines: 797 Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu Xref: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu comp.lang.forth:14691 comp.answers:3022 news.answers:15819 Archive-name: ForthFaq/Implementation Last-modified: 07.Nov.93 Version: 1.8 [Thanks go to Stephen J Bevan for taking the time/effort to reorganize this part of the FAQ. -dwp] This section of the Forth FAQ describes the Forth systems that are currently available and/or have been asked about in the group. Topics Covered: [1] Forth for the 8051/8031 [2] Forth for a PC [3] 32-bit protected-mode PC Forth [4] Forth for Windows (3.1/NT) [5] Forth for OS/2 [6] Forth for the 68HC16 [7] Forth written in C [8] Forth for UNIX [9] Forth for a Sun [10] Forth for a MAC [11] Forth for an Amiga [12] Forth for an Atari ST [13] Forth for a Transputer [14] Forth for a Tandy TRS-80 [15] Forth for the Apple II [16] Forth for 68000 boards (including cross development from PCs) [17] Forth for (miscellaneous) DSP chips [18] Forth for VMS [19] Forth for playing with Music [20] PD/ShareWare Forth for the BrouHaHa-7245 [21] Forth that isn't necessarily Forth [22] Forth Vendors/Authors Search for [#] to get to question number # quickly. Note the sections are in "digest" form so cooperating NEWS/MAIL readers can step through the sections easily. Recent Changes: 1.6 1993-06-XX bevan Reformatted the contents of version 1.5 1.7 1993-07-XX bevan Added VMS and SGI entries 1.8 1993-08-21 bevan Major format change (again). 1993-08-21 bevan Created new category for Amiga 1993-08-23 bevan Added new (free) 8051 entry, 1993-08-23 bevan Added new (free) PC entry, 1993-08-23 bevan Created new category for 32-bit protected-mode PC Forths 1993-08-23 bevan Created new category for Windows (3.1/NT) 1993-08-23 bevan Created new category for 68HC16 1993-08-23 bevan Created new category for UNIX (rationalising SGI entry) 1993-08-23 bevan Created new category for Atari-ST 1993-08-23 bevan Created new category for 68K 1993-08-23 bevan Updated entry for C-Forth 1993-08-23 bevan Created Kevo entry 1993-08-23 bevan Added Harvard Softworks entries. (PC) 1993-08-23 bevan Updated MMS entries (PC & Tandy) 1993-08-24 bevan Minor fixes to MMS entries (PC & Tandy) 1993-08-24 bevan Deleted MISOSYS entry (PC & Tandy) -- no longer available 1993-08-25 bevan Added Delta Research address 1993-08-26 bevan Updated Joerg Plewe's 68K entries 1993-08-27 bevan Created OS/2 category 1993-08-27 bevan Added Golden Porcupine entry (PC) 1993-08-28 bevan Updated the HiSoft entry (Atari ST) 1993-08-29 bevan Created Jax4th entry (Windows NT) 1993-09-01 bevan Created Gehmlich's 8051 entry 1993-09-05 bevan Updated all Bradley Forthware entries. 1993-09-06 bevan Moved any system mentioned more than once to vendor/author section to avoid duplication. 1993-09-17 bevan Updated all MPE entries. 1993-09-18 bevan Added MicroMotion (Apple II) entry. 1993-09-27 bevan Added Bernd Paysan's bigFORTH entries (Atari/PC) 1993-11-07 dwp Minor reformatting for FAQ script pre-processing. Note: 1. In the following a number of Forth systems are listed as being available from particular anonymous ftp addresses or from "good archives". In the case of the former, wherever possible try and find as close a site as possible to pick up the source from. Instructions on how to do this and also to find sources where no address is given can be found in the separate FAQ section "Libraries: Where and how?". 2. Most of the vendors mentioned below can supply a Forth system for a wide variety of platforms. If you can't find a Forth system for your platform explicitly listed, try any/all the vendors listed. 3. If an entry is short it is probably because the system is available on more than one machine. A complete descripion should be available in the appropriate part of the vendors/authors section. Thanks to the following for providing the information that makes up this section of the FAQ: Dave Beckett , Stephen J Bevan , Mitch Bradley , Jim Brooks , Jerry Boutelle, Mike Coughlin , Ray Duncan , Merlin Friesen , Kevin Haddock , Mike Haas , Michael Hore , P J Knaggs , Nan-Hung (Carl) Lin , Bob Loewenstein , DON MADSON, Henry McGeough , Dick Miller , Julian V. Noble , Stephen Pelc , clyde.w.jr.phillips , Joerg Plewe , Valery P Frolov , Elizabeth Rather (E.RATHER on GEnie), Brad Rodriguez (B.RODRIGUEZ2 on GEnie), Christopher John Rolfe , Richard C. Secrist , Dale Smith , Scott Squires , Larry W. Virden and Jack J. Woehr . ---------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Forth for the 8051/8031 Commercial: AM Research: Sells a Forth cross-development for the 8051 that features a kernel of less than 700 bytes. FORTH Inc.: A cross-development product for the 8051 family which includes a board and extensive documentation. MPE: Cross compiler. The 8031 cross compiler contains expanded ROM/RAM and single chip targets. Also supports 8055x variants. Offete: 8051 eForth, C. H. Ting -- $25.00 "A small ROM based Forth system ... Source code is in MASM ... IBM 5.25 disk ... With 8051 eForth Implementation Note." Mikrap and Forth Systeme (they sell a product called SwissForth which is different than the LMI cross-compiler, although they also sell LMI products) [ Mikrap address? - bevan ] LMI? Free: William H. Payne, the author of "Embedded Controller Forth for the 8051 Family", has made all the code for the system described in his book available. See the file anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/8051/read51.txt for more information. EFORTH51.ZIP may be downloaded free of charge from the RealTime Control and Forth Board (RCFB), phone: (303) 278-0364 or from the GEnie Forth Interest Group RoundTable (page 711). 51forth is a subroutine threaded Forth by Scott Gehmlich. Available as anonymous@130.123.96.9:giovanni/51forth.zip [this FTP site is in Massey University in New Zeland - bevan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------- [2] Forth for a PC Commercial: Harvard Softworks sells HS/FORTH. Can link with .obj files [ more details? - bevan ] MMS: MMSFORTH V2.5. MPE: PC PowerForth+ and Modular Forth. LMI and FORTH Inc. sell PC based Forths [ details? - bevan ] Free: Golden Porcupine Forth, ver.92.5 by Alexandr Larionov. Distributed as FREEWARE (To sell programs for it you must pay some fee, for details you should contact author phone: 7 095 288-2660) Includes interpreter, compiler, libraries (graphics, sound, file system, windows and menus in text mode, random generator, mouse support) and documentation (in Russian!). The whole system is about 120k. It follows Forth-83 standard. An interesting feature is that it doesn't have a Forth assembler, it can use standard assembler (like MASM) instead. This version has good compiler. It generates small .com files. Typical size is 3k. F-PC, anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/ibm/fpc/fpc-3.56 [ anyone have a bit of blurb about it? - bevan ] Various in anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/ibm [ anyone care to classify them? - bevan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------- [3] 32-bit protected-mode PC Forth Commercial: Bernd Paysan: bigFORTH is currently in beta test. Bradley Forthware sells Forthmacs for $250. Price includes source and DOS extender. Forth Inc. has a 32-bit protected-mode Forth for 386. It runs under DOS with QEMM memory manager (compatible with DESQview). Supports up to 24 Mb of "flat" memory space. Many options, including VGA graphics, FP math, data base, GUI toolkit, much more. Includes a very extensive documentation set and complete source. Harvard Softworks has a version of HS/FORTH that provides access to full (flat) 4Gb memory [ more details? - bevan ] LMI sells a 32-bit protected-mode Forth called 80386 UR/FORTH. It runs on DOS and is based on the Phar Lap DOS Extender; it is fully compatible with XMS, EMS, and DPMI memory managers. MPE: PowerForth/386 Offete has a 386 protected-mode 32 bit eForth. It comes with source code and a public domain dos extender. eForth is a minimal forth with only about 30 words coded in assembler, so it is very easy to understand ---------------------------------------------------------------- [4] Forth for Windows (3.1/NT) Commercial: Bradley Forthware: Forthmacs is available for Windows 3.1 and costs $250. It includes an EMACS editor and comes with full source. LMI: WinForth is a 16-bit Forth for Windows 3.1. It is available for downloading from their BBS for $100 US MPE: ProForth for Windows 3.1 and/or NT. Free: September (1993) issue of Windows NT Developer will feature a Jax4th, a freeware 32-bit Forth for Windows NT complete with source code (on disk accompanying magazine). After December, 1993, Jax4th will be freely redistributable: until then, as a courtesy to Windows NT Developer magazine, it is not to be uploaded. The current version features complete access to NT DLL's and BLOCK loading facility. Written in MASM by Jack Woehr, SYSOP RCFB (303) 278-0364 . ---------------------------------------------------------------- [5] Forth for OS/2 Commercial: Forth/2 by Michael A. Warot and Brian Mathewson can be licensed for commercial work. Free: Forth/2 by Michael A. Warot and Brian Mathewson is available by ftp for non-commercial work. ---------------------------------------------------------------- [6] Forth for the 68HC16 Commercial: MPE has a 68HC16 Forth cross-compiler for the PC, which includes a resident Forth for the 68HC16. This is a 16-bit Harvard model (64K code & 64K data). The MPE Forth includes "long address" fetch and store operators for the full megabyte of 68HC16 memory. Multiple data pages are also supported, if your hardware will do it. New Micros: Have a Forth available for the 68HC16 [ details? - bevan] Free: Check out anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/68hc11 [ anyone care to give a breakdown of what is a available? - bevan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------- [7] Forth written in C Commercial: Bradley Forthware: C Forth, it costs $100. MPE: PinC Free: HENCE4TH - A figForth written in C that currently runs under V7 Unix, Personal C Compiler, and Mix Power C. Porting to other platforms should be trivial (considering the vast differences of these three platforms!). It can be found on Genie and wuarchive.wustl.edu in the /pub directory (it might have been moved to the msdos/forth area by now). Make sure to get version 1.2, not 1.1. Kevin Haddock has offered to email it to interested parties. C-Forth available from comp.sources.unix and also anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/unix/c-forth.tar.z The book "Write Your Own Programming Language Using C++" by Norman Smith describes how a Forth can be written in C(++). The associated C(++) code can be ordered from the publisher (phone: 800/229-4949), from the Forth Interest Group with a VISA card (phone: 408/277-0668) or from the author (but you'd have to write him and ask how much they are together, or inquire about foreign deliveries, etc.). Once you have the book a photocopy of the title page and $5 gets you an MS-DOS disk with the source if you write to him (full address in vendor section). ---------------------------------------------------------------- [8] Forth for UNIX Commercial: Bradley Forthware: Forthmacs $200 runs on a number of UNIX platforms (SGI, Sun, NeXT, SGI ... etc.) MPE: PinC. MPE also do cross compilers for UNIX boxes using PinC as a core. Free: TILE (32 bit Forth 83) - shareware, $50 suggested contribution to Mikael Patel. Written in C, runs on Suns (most UNIX boxes?). Available from the from all good archive sites. Dirk Zoller has implemented an dpANS-5 compatible Forth in ANSI-C. All the code is under the GNU General Public Licence. It has been tested on IBM-PC running Linux, IBM RS6000 running AIX 3.x and HP 9000 series 700 running HP-UX. Should be portable to any machine with a true ANSI-C compiler having a straight 32-bit architecture (i.e. may work under OS/2, Windows, Atari, Amiga, but definitely not MS-DOS). At time of writing [1993-08-21], the system is still an early release, so the author would appreciate bug reports and suggestions by email to The system can be obtained by anonymous ftp from where the latest version is updated at least weekly in the file /pub/unix/languages/pfe-?.?.?.tar.Z For 68K systems only: An indirect threaded 32-bit Forth based on the 83 standard written in 68K assembly (Motorola format) by Andy Valencia is available as anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/68000/forth-68000.tar.Z ---------------------------------------------------------------- [9] Forth for a Sun Commercial: Bradley Forthware: Forthmacs costs $200. It comes with source code, assembly debugger and floating point. MPE: PinC Free: Open Boot PROM - built-in to the SPARCstation PROMs. Inaccessible from the Unix environment; you have to interrupt the boot process and then type "n" to get to Forth. See also: [7] & [8] ---------------------------------------------------------------- [10] Forth for a MAC Commercial: Bradley Forthware: Forthmacs is available for $50. Optional extras: source code, assembly debugger and floating point. MacForth by Creative Solutions [ more details? - bevan ] Free: Yerk is an object oriented language based on Forth for the Macintosh and was originally a product marketed as Neon. Yerk runs on all macs and all systems > 6.0. Yerk (3.64) is available as anonymous@pub/Yerk:oddjob.uchicago.edu Mops is also available from the same ftp site. Yerk and Mops are derived from a former commercial product (Neon), and so are large, and capable of full-scale development. They are being kept fully up to date with the latest Macs and systems. Mops has an ANSI prologue, intended to give ANSI compliance. Pocket Forth is also worth a mention, as a very good quality small-scale PD Forth [ more details? - bevan ] Also try anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/mac which contains some of the above and also some other implementations [ anyone care to catalogue them? - bevan ] Compare/contrast of Mops/Yerk by Bob Loewenstein: Yerk and Mops are both derived from Neon, a Forth-like Object Oriented language that was a product back in the early days of the Mac (see Kurt Schmucker's book - Object Oriented Languages for the Macintosh [something like that title]...also there was a review in Dr Dobbs Journal ~1985 or 86). Yerk is very close to the original Neon as far as compatibility is concerned. I have kept it alive because we have a number of large applications written in it, and because I happen to like it. Michael Hore took Neon and rewrote it essentially from scratch. Instead of interpretive threading, he used subtroutine threading and as a result, Mops is faster than Yerk. Michael has taken Mops farther than I have had time to take Yerk, including multiple inheritance and other nice things. Both are robust, usable languages for quickly developing applications. Their syntax is very similar, and I wouldn't hesitate to say that if you know one, you can pick up the other very fast. The manuals are very similar. I had some older software copies of the original Neon manual, spent some time upgrading it to Yerk, and sent it along to Mike Hore to use to generate a Mops Manual. Last March [1993? -dwp], Mike and I spent several days together talking about the similiarities, support, and future of Mops and Yerk. We agreed to try to bring the two languages closer to each other so that better compatibility will exist. ---------------------------------------------------------------- [11] Forth for an Amiga Commercial: Delta Research: JForth Professional 3.x for $179.95. It's three disks contain Forth, a tutorial, libraries, and examples. The environment includes an editor with ARexx, and a standard "block" editor. Although it behaves as an interpreter, JForth is a true compiler. Each word is compiled into 68000 assembly as entered. JForth can also handle pre-compiled modules and includes, and comes with a utility to translate includes from C to Forth. JForth provides words for handling C-style data structures, easy graphics and menus, IFF, and ARexx. It also has an object-oriented programming system suitable for building data types for large projects. Free: Joerg Plewe's F83 Forth. Also check out the directory anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/amiga which appears to contain at least 3 different Forths [ anyone want to classify what is in there? - bevan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------- [12] Forth for an Atari ST Commercial: Bradley Forthware: Forthmacs is available for $50. Optional extras: source code, floating point, GEM interface, aplications stripper and spread sheet. Bernd Paysan: bigFORTH is available for 200 DM. Extras: Source code, floating point, GEM interface, object oriented FORTH, native code Compiler. F68KANS by Joerg Plewe. As per the free version below, but you can use it commercially. Contact Joerg for pricing details. HiSoft FORTH is a 32 bit Forth for the Atari ST, with full support for GEM. It can uses blocks or files as source. It is subroutine threaded. A Motorola 68000 assembler is also included. The price in the UK is about 39 pounds. Free: F68K and F68KANS by Joerg Plewe. Also try the directory anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/atari_st, it seems to contain at least a couple of Forths [ anyone care to catalogue them? - bevan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------- [13] Forth for a Transputer Commercial: MPE have a Forth system for Transputers based on PinC. The package consists of a PC-hosted (Unix if required) cross compiler (with source code), and the target code (all source). The code will run on all T2xx, T4xx, and T8xx CPUs. When the T9000 exists ... Offete: eFORTH has been ported to the Transputer by Bob Barr Free: There is a free/public-domain transputer forth available as anonymous@unix.hensa.ac.uk:/parallel/software/forth It is an implementation of Forth for 16 and 32 bit transputers including source, written by Laurie Pegrum. It requires the D705 occam development system and a 32 bit transputer board with 1M of memory to recompile. To run requires 1M. It uses iserver interface to host ---------------------------------------------------------------- [14] Forth for a Tandy TRS-80 Commercial: MMS: MMSFORTH V2.4. MVP has an MVP-Forth for the TRS80 Model4 called Model4th, written by Art Wetmore. [ details? - bevan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------- [15] Forth for the Apple II Free: GraFORTH(+) (DOS 3.3 only) (freely distributable, available on GEnie) Mad Apple Forth(+) ftp from wuarchive.wustl.edu:/system/apple2/Lang/Forth/* Purple Forth(+) ftp from cco.caltech.edu:/pub/apple2/8bit/source Q Forth(+) version 2.0 Alpha 1.0, is a small integer Forth written by by Toshiyasu Morita ftp from ftp.uu.net:/systems/apple2/languages/forth GS 16 FORTH II, Version II (+) - A 16 bit Forth implementation able to make use of the GS Toolbox. Includes assembler, full screen editor. ftp from cco.caltech.edu:/pub/apple2/source/GS16Forth.shk Also available on GEnie. Commercial: Apple Forth 1.6 - Cap'n Software - Used a unique disk format. 6502 Forth 1.2 - Programma International. FORTH II - Softape published this one. Ran on Apple II+, //e, etc. C. K. Haun supposedly has written a shareware version of Forth for the Apple IIgs. Someone reports that this is available on GEnie. MicroMotion: FORTH-79, MasterFORTH. MVP-FORTH - [ more info? - bevan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------- [16] Forth for 68000 boards (including cross development from PCs) Commercial: Bradley Forthware: ForthMon is available for $500. Forth Inc. sells chipFORTH system for 68000's that supports fully interactive development from a PC. It includes the fast pF/x multitasking exec and many libraries as well. MPE: Cross compiler. Also have a protected mode variant (built on PowerForth/386) which runs distinctly faster than the Non/386 version (built on PinC). Both produce 32 bit Forths. Free: There is a version of Laxen and Perry's F83 which will generate 68000 code on a PC. It is available on GEnie M16PC.ARC [ A README is available as anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/68000/m16what.txt lists the files that make up the system, but they don't match those in the directory. Anyone care to investigate? - bevan ] It fixes the code from Laxen and Perry's F83 (which is written for both MS-DOS/8088 and CP/M-68k) so you can change the 68000 code with the MS-DOS version. You then can take the Forth source for the typical 68000 machine supplied (possibly the Atari ST) and change it for any other 68k computer board. The L&P metacompilier will then create 68000 code on the IBM-PC and the resulting binary output used to burn ROM's for the new board. Or you can load it through the serial ports with S records or whatever. bot-Forth: The source code is comprised of 3 parts: the metacompiler, the mini-assembler and of course, the kernel. The kernel will metacompile itself. The easiest thing to compile 68k-Forth on is another port of bot-Forth (bot-Forth was originally metacompiled on LMI's PCForth but the metacompiler needs to be modified to do that) The metacompiler was presented at the 1989 Rochester Forth conference. That one was more general to convey its basic concepts. The one in the source code is specific for the 68k and works in conjunction with the Mini-assembler. See anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/68000/botfth68.arc and botforth.txt in the same directory. Joerg Plewe: F68K ---------------------------------------------------------------- [17] Forth for (miscellaneous) DSP chips Commercial: TCOM FORTH Target Compiler by Tom Zimmer and Andrew McKewen has been extended for the TMS320. It also supports 808X, 80196 and SuperZ8 [ more details? - bevan ] Computer Continum is developing a XT/AT board for the ADSP-2101 running Forth. [ is it ready yet? - bevan ] Offete: A port of eFORTH to ADSP2100 is being contemplated [ is the contemplation over yet? - bevan ] Micro-K Systems produce complete AT&T DSP32 boards running Forth. Includes the AT&T DSP library! MPE: Cross compiler for TMS320C31 is available. Ask for details regarding TMS320C3x ---------------------------------------------------------------- [18] Forth for VMS Klaus Flesch wrote a VAX VMS Forth some years ago. It is believed to be derived from FIG-FORTH. Availability is uncertain, try contacting the author c/o Forth Systeme. See also: [7] & [8] as some C and UNIX based systems -may- port without too much effort. ---------------------------------------------------------------- [19] Forth for playing with Music Commercial: HMSL (Hieracrchical Music Specification Language) Phil Burk, Center for Contemporary Music at Mills College Frog Peak Music, and Delta Research PO Box 151051, San Rafael, CA 94915-1051 Email: phil@mills.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------- [20] PD/ShareWare Forth for the BrouHaHa-7245 There used to be a list of stuff here, compiled by Gary Smith. Most of it was old, and didn't have any "how do I find it" info. See "Forth FAQ: Libraries: Where and how?" for info on how to access various Forth libraries. Most libraries have a directory or keyword search function available. ----------------------------------------------------------------- [21] Forth that isn't necessarily Forth Commercial: FIFTH by Software Construction Co. Available for Amiga + PC + maybe others? Free: Kevo by Antero Taivalsaari . It is a prototypical object-oriented language which has a somewhat Forth feel to it. It runs on Macs (apparently well integrated into Mac environment) and is available as anonymous@cs.uta.fi:/pub/kevo/* ----------------------------------------------------------------- [22] Forth Vendors/Authors AM Research, Loomis, CA. phone: (916) 652-7472 or 1-800-949-8051 Bernd Paysan, Stockmannstr. 14, D-81477 Munchen, Germany. email: Products: bigFORTH is a 32 bit FORTH, compiles optimized native code, has lots of libraries and currently runs on Atari ST/TT/Falcon 030. A port for 386 works and is in beta test. bigFORTH will be ANS FORTH conformant, as soon as I this claim can be officially made. Bradley Forthware Inc. P.O. Box 4444 Mountain View, CA 94040 voice: (415) 961-1302 fax: (415) 962-0927 email: Products: Forthmacs: Forth 83 dialect, portable OS text file interface, structured decompiler, assembler&dissasembler, assembly&symbolic debugger, optional floating point and platform specific extensions. Available for Atari ST, Mcintosh, Sun (3&4), SGI, 386-PC, OS-9/68K. ForthMon: Forth ROMs for board-level computers. Includes source and development system. Available for 680x0, SPARC, 386, 486. C Forth: Runs on nearly any machine (PC, Unix, VAX, mainframe). Source code is included. All systems have 32-bit stacks, texts files (not blocks), programmer tools and complete documentation. Computer Continum, Specialists in Motion Control and Data Acquisition. Eric Reiter, Engineer, Owner, 75 Southgate Ave., Suite 6 Daly City, CA 94015 phone: (415) 755-1978 Creative Solutions, 4701 Randolph Road, Suite 12, Rockville, Maryland 20852. phone: (301) 984-0262 or 1-800-FORTH-OK On CompuServe 'GO FORTH' at prompt to Forth SIG sponsored by Creative Solutions. Delta Research, P.O. Box 151051, San Rafael, CA. 94915-1051 phone: (415) 453-4320 FORTH Inc.: phone: 1-800-55FORTH Forth Systeme, P.O. Box 1103, Breisach, Germany. phone: 7767-551 Harvard Softworks, P.O. Box 69, Springboro, OH 45066 phone: 513-748-0390 HiSoft: email: Joerg Plewe, Haarzopfer Str. 32, D-45472 Muelheim an der Ruhr, GERMANY phone: (+49)-(0)208-497068 email: Products: F68K: a portable, subroutine threaded, Forth 83 system for 680x0 computers. It should run on every Motorola 680x0 computer without recompiling the binaries. F68K is connected to the surrounding system via a small loader program, some kind of a BIOS. The distribution includes loader programs for Atari ST/TT (Joerg's development platform), Commodore Amiga, OS9 and Sinclair QL. Available as anonymous@asterix.inescn.pt:pub/forth/68000/f68k.tar.Z F68KANS: This is a dpANS compatible and hence not compatible with the above F83 Forth. It is available for PRIVATE use directly from the author by email but -support- is freely given. It is a 32bit (non-optimizing) native code, ROMable, position independent system. It is independent from the surrounding machine by using a loader program which connects Forth to the OS/hardware. The loader can be as small or large as necessary i.e. you can link in OS libraries to extend the functionallity of the system. So far the following dpANS wordsets have been implemented: CORE (EXT), FLOAT (EXT), FILE (EXT), BLOCK (EXT), MEMORY (EXT), EXCEPTION, SEARCH. At present it only runs on Atari ST/TT, and comes with two graphics packages using BGI and special one drawing in GEM windows, a full, very comfortable (really) GEM environment for development, SAVE-SYSTEM, full source, unfull doc (for now) and support. Any people developing tools, applications or ports are welcomed and supported. LMI: Laboratory Microsystems Inc. voice: (310) 306-7412 fax: (310) 301-0761 BBS (310) 306-3530 email: lmi@nic.cerf.net MMS: Miller Microcomputer Services 61 Lake Shore Road, Natick, MA 01760-2099, USA. phone: 617/653-6136, 9am-9pm Eastern TZ email: Products: MMSFORTH V2.5. MMS offers two different versions of MMSFORTH for the IBM PC. For $179.95 plus S/H, MMS offers a personal license for MMSFORTH/nonDOS for IBM-PC, a traditional, stand-alone (and virus-proof) Forth with many extensions, sample programs, about 400 pages of manual, and continuing phone tips. (MMSFORTH is described in the college-level textbook, "Forth: A Text and Reference", which lists for $30.95 but is available from MMS for $18.95 plus S/H.) MMSFORTH/MS-DOS can be added for 50% ($90) additional. MMS also offers an unusual collection of MMSFORTH extensions and applications, including the following: the XREF source cross-referencer, n-length arithmetic, TGRAPH fast vector graphics, 8087 support, DATAHANDLER and DATAHANDLER-PLUS flat-file databases with variable-length fields, the FORTHWRITE word-processor supporting popular printers and EXPERT-2 FOR MMSFORTH, an expert system which can squeeze into 32K. Almost all modules come with with source code. MMSFORTH V2.4: Details as above but for Radio Shack TRS-80 Models 1, 3, or 4/4P. Note, it is nonDOS only. MPE: MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd., 133 Hill Lane, Shirley, Southampton SO1 5AF U.K. phone: (+44) 703-631441, fax: (+44) 703-339691, email: U.S. dealer is AMICS Enterprises. phone: 716-461-9187 Canadian dealer is Universal Cross-Assemblers phone: 506-847-0681. Free catalogue available on request. Products: Cross compiler. PC based cross compiler based around PowerForth+. Development environment includes on-line glossary. Extensive documentation. Source included. Multi-tasker & High-Level Interrupt handlers provided. Target list includes: 80196, RTX2000/1/10, Z80/64180, 8031/51/55x, Z8/Super8, 68HC11, 68HC16, M37700, 6502/740/7450, 680x0/68332/9xC1xx, H8/5xx. PC PowerForth+ for MS-DOS, comes with examples and extensions. Modular Forth for MS-DOS, comes with Multitasker and Graphics Pack. PowerForth/386 is a protected mode 32 bit Forth for MS-DOS. Royalty free DOS extender provided. Likely to change name soon to ProForth for DOS. (The Windows product is built on the same kernel). It is fully DPMI compliant and will run under Windows quite happily. Requires 80386 or above. Comes with Multitasker, Graphics Pack and source. ProForth for Windows is a 32 bit Forth running under Windows/NT and under 3.1 via WIN32S. Requires 80386 or above. Fully integrated with Windows (i.e. GUI programming, calling modules in other languages ... etc.). PinC (PowerForth in C) will compile on any K&R compatible C compiler Known to run on Suns, PCs and Archimedes, to name a few. MicroMotion, 12077 Wilshire Boulevard, #506, Los Angeles, CA 90025 phone: (213) 821-4340 Products: MicroMotion FORTH-79. A 79-standard Forth, with extensions. It is a standalone system and only requires Apple II, 48k, 1 5.25" drive. There appears to have been a second disk available at an extra cost containing floating-point arithmetic and hi-res graphics commands. Apparently isn't GS-compatible, works fine on a IIe though. MasterFORTH is follows the Forth-83 standard but has extensions. Runs on Apple II, 48K, 1 5.25" drive under DOS 3.3 MasterFORTH also had additional disks containing floating-point and hi-res commands, which appear to have been sold separately. MVP: Mountain View Press, Box 429 Star Route 2 La Honda, CA 94020 New Micros Inc. Chalk Hill Rd. Dallas, Texas Offete Enterprises, Inc. 1306 South B Street, San Mateo, CA 94402 phone: (415) 574-8250 Norman Smith; 114 Claremont Rd.; Oak Ridge, Tenn. 37830. Software Construction Co., INC. 2900B Longmire College Station, Texas 77845 phone: (409) 696-5432 Michael A. Warot, PO BOX 4043, Hammond, Indiana 46324 email: Brian Mathewson, 21576 Kenwood Avenue, Rocky River, OH 44116-1232 email: Product: Forth/2 is a fully 32-bit, native Forth for OS/2 2.0. It requires an 80386SX or compatible microprocessor, and OS/2 2.0 or subsequent versions. Forth/2 was created specifically for OS/2 using MASM 6.0. Currently it is a text-mode application which can be run either in a full screen or in a window. It presently does not conform to any single Forth standard. Most of the major Forth functions are included. You can get executable + docs from: anonymous@ftp-os2.cdrom.com:pub/os2/2_x/program/forth025.zip anonymous@ftp-os2.nmsu.edu :os2/2_x/program/forth025.zip Contact Brian if you'd like something adding or you have any suggestions regarding Forth/2. Contact Michael if you want to obtain a commercial license and the source. ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- If you have any questions about ForthNet/comp.lang.forth or any information to add/delete or correct in this message or any suggestions on formatting or presentation, please contact Doug Philips at one of the following addresses: Internet: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us Usenet: ...!uunet!willett.pgh.pa.us!dwp GEnie: D.PHILIPS3