From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Mon, 23 Aug 93 23:20:27 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #47 Linux-Misc Digest #47, Volume #1 Mon, 23 Aug 93 23:20:27 EDT Contents: Re: INN1.4 under Linux - WOW !!!!!! (Marc "Scrappy" Fournier) Re: How are the Linux Packages put Together? (Michael Elkins) Want more than 2 IDE Drives? (Allen M. Ashley) Re: linux DOS emu and double space (Henning Holtschneider) Re: question about DOS emulator (Henning Holtschneider) Re: Dosemu and serial i/o (Henning Holtschneider) Re: Why would I want LINUX? (Andreas Klemm) Re: Unix for sale (Scott Barker) pl12-small patch still dying (Hendrik G. Seliger) Re: Wordprocessor under X (Scott D. Heavner) Re: High speed modems & Linux (Bill Heiser) Re: High speed modems & Linux (Ahmon Dancy) How to Use a Mitsumi CDROM (Allen M. Ashley) Re: NT versus Linux (Chris Waters) "Spying" on ttyS0 (Zachary S Smith) Re: Does the Adaptec 1542C have problems? (Philippe Steindl) Re: NT versus Linux (Peter Mutsaers) Re: NT versus Linux (Peter Mutsaers) Why not create/use auto VESA SVGA X11 drivers? (Possible FAQ entry?) (King_Claudius (Chris Knight)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: scrappy@r-node.io.org (Marc "Scrappy" Fournier) Crossposted-To: news.software.nntp Subject: Re: INN1.4 under Linux - WOW !!!!!! Date: 22 Aug 1993 12:52:09 -0000 In <251lhk$1eu@victrola.wa.com> vince@victrola.wa.com (Vince Skahan) writes: >rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz) writes: >>>upcoming support for, overview files in nn? >>I believe this is being worked on by the nn folks. You can get a >>prototype done by Geoff Collyer from world.std.com:src/news/nn.dist.tar.Z >this fine example does indeed work well under linux :-) >It seems quite a bit slower to me at first glance when entering the newsgroup, >but it's only a "proof-of-concept" anyway...but it *does* work. Hmmm...did we get the same copy? :( Mine wouldn't evenc compile... the nnmaster wouldn't ln because of a whole bunch of missing functions (that should be in db.c, and are in db.c.orig). I cheated (or think I did) but adding those functions to stubs.c and then it compiled. Then I got a problem with the active file...it couldn't find it or read it or something similar to that, which I figured was a result of those missing functions :( I would really like to see this working so that i don't have to create those massive database files that are already created by INN, so recommendations are appreciated :) marc ------------------------------ From: elkins@aero.org (Michael Elkins) Subject: Re: How are the Linux Packages put Together? Date: 23 Aug 1993 21:25:28 GMT In article , >Maybe it is time to resurrect the idea of having the SYS V package >format for Linux. 1/2 :-) Actually, there is a discussion going on right now in c.o.l.d. to that effect. I'm putting together a group to talk about it. me -- michael elkins elkins@aero.org computer science and technology subdivision aerospace corporation tel: +1 310-336-8040 el segundo, ca fax: +1 310-336-4402 ------------------------------ From: ashley@cco.caltech.edu (Allen M. Ashley) Subject: Want more than 2 IDE Drives? Date: 23 Aug 1993 22:00:00 GMT I just ran across an IDE controller card made by Wonder Systems in Fremont,Calif. (510) 490-6298. This card supports four hard drives and four floppies. I paid $65 for it yesterday. Caveat: I couldn't get it to work with my system, but you might give it a try if you can get it with return privileges. If it works like it is supposed to it would eliminate the need for atdisk2 or, for dos, 3_drives (which also never seemed to work for me). The card seems to contain two separate IDE controllers that can be enabled individually as far as the hard disks go. I wish it worked for me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 93 22:12:51 +0200 From: Henning_Holtschneider@softstream.fido.de (Henning Holtschneider) Subject: Re: linux DOS emu and double space Hello Steve, on [17.08.93] you wrote to [All] in COMP.OS.LINUX.MISC about [linux DOS emu and double space] SK> Can a doublespace partition be accessed to through the Linux DOS emulator ? Normally, yes! Theoretically, the only thing you have to do is to put the doublespace driver into the config.sys (autoexec.bat ???) of DOSEMU 's boot partition (image file) ;-) But, perhaps (I 've never tried because I do not use doublespace), DOSEMU crashes when loading the driver ... :-( Then, there is no way. Anyway, the driver must be there to have access to the doublespaced files. By(t)e <-ginneH<- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 93 10:55:22 +0200 From: Henning_Holtschneider@softstream.fido.de (Henning Holtschneider) Subject: Re: question about DOS emulator Hello Thomas, on [20.08.93] you wrote to [All] in COMP.OS.LINUX.MISC about [question about DOS emulator] TM> everything.) The first is, how good is it, really? (in other words, can it TM> really run the majority of DOS stuff, including graphics programs etc?) You can run nearly every non protected mode program. Graphics programs work, too. By(t)e <-gninneH<- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 93 11:00:01 +0200 From: Henning_Holtschneider@softstream.fido.de (Henning Holtschneider) Subject: Re: Dosemu and serial i/o Hello Ronald, on [19.08.93] you wrote to [All] in COMP.OS.LINUX.MISC about [Dosemu and serial i/o] Rv> I would like to know how well dosemu handles serial i/o. I know the Bad! Rv> mouse is working but how about real high speed transfers? And what The mouse works? I 'm using DOSEMU 0.49 and it does *not* work ?! Well, as the manual says, high speed transfers do not work. I 've tried Binkley Term under DOS. Binkley couldn 't even initialize the modem :-( By(t)e <-gninneH<- ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc From: andreas@knobel.knirsch.de (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: Why would I want LINUX? Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 22:39:44 GMT j@bonnie.tcd-dresden.de (J Wunsch) writes: >In <24vd7h$frk@horus.mch.sni.de> Martin.Kraemer@mch.sni.de (Martin Kraemer) writes: >[for Linux] >>Plus there is much more support for "cheap" hardware and for two-or- >>more-OS's-on-one-harddisk. >The really disadvantage of BSD is it's lack of shared libs, thus consu- >ming much more disk space. >But the original shared libs from Linux didn't >convince me either: i saw it at a friend, he quickly felt that his Linux >got binary-incompatible to itself. (Since the binaries had to match >exactly the shared libs.) Oh my goodness. Is that the real truth ? No. Sorry. You forgot to say, that the new libraries are compatible to the older ones. I think that's more important !!! Don't know what problems your friend had ... ?! An example: I started with SLS 1.01 That was a system with the shared lib release libc.so.4.3.3. I had gcc 2.3.3, gas 1.38, ... and the kernel 0.99 pl 8 or so. Then I wanted to compile and install the newer kernel 0.99 pl 11. What was to to ... I saw in the README, that the kernel can only be successfull compiled with gcc-2.4.5. Ok I fetched this one via ftp mailer. No problem. I saw, that gcc-2.4.5 was compiled with newer shared libs (I had libc.so.4.3.3, I needed libc.so.4.4.1). NO problem...ftp mail... The only thing I had to do, to upgrade the shared libs, was to do an cd /lib ln -sf libc.so.4.4.1 libc.so.4 No problem under a running system !!!! Important is the option f to force the symbolic link. And what I want to make clear .... the new shared libs are compatible to the older ones ... I could use every binary, that was compiled and linked when the old shared libs were in use !!!!!! -- /-\ Andreas Klemm +-----------------+ |@|########################################################-@ "pay for it !" | \-/ 41469 Neuss Germany phone +49/ 2137 12609 +-----------------+ ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.sys5.misc,comp.unix.pc-clone.16bit,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.os.linux From: barker@enel.ucalgary.ca (Scott Barker) Subject: Re: Unix for sale Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 22:11:55 GMT Our mail system crashed, but is back up again. If anyone tried to contact me between Thursday Aug 19 and Sunday Aug 22 about the Dell Unix I'm selling, please try again, as all mail in that period was lost. -- Scott Barker barker@enel.ucalgary.ca "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him." - Voltaire ------------------------------ From: hank@Blimp.automat.uni-essen.de (Hendrik G. Seliger) Subject: pl12-small patch still dying Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 14:54:43 GMT Reply-To: hank@Blimp.automat.uni-essen.de Hi there! One of these days Linus posted a small patch to the pl12-kernel to keep it from dying under heavy load. Well, that thing helped quite a bit. My machine has been able to bear its hard life for four days, but then, heavy loaded (TeX, X, emacs, ...) the death appeared. Same thing, server quits, you press any key and the machine tells you "unable to handle kernel pagind request" and there we stand still. Just thought I should tell, maybe it helps to find one more small bug biting bits in there. Hank -- ====================================================================== Hendrik G. Seliger Universitaet Essen hank@Blimp.automat.uni-essen.de Schuetzenbahn 70 Tel.: +49-201-183-2898 45117 Essen, Germany ====================================================================== "Handling interrupts is simple." (G. Pajari) "Interrupts are an unpleasant fact of life." (A. Tanenbaum) ------------------------------ From: sdh@fishmonger.nouucp (Scott D. Heavner) Subject: Re: Wordprocessor under X Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 22:45:35 GMT Reply-To: sdh@po.cwru.edu seawoocl@nextwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu wrote: > How'd you get WP to run under dosemu? I tried it but it just sat there. > I'm on a 486dx33/VLB w/ 8 mb ram. I tried it while running dosemu in raw > keyboard mode, the console and graphics options, 8 mb expanded, and 1 meg > extended memory. Btw, I'm using WP 5.1, so that might be the problem. > Anyone else tried WP 5.1? I tried it and had it running fine, but I can't get it to save files (this isn't really where I expected the problem to lie). It acts like it's saving them, but when you load them, they're just garbage. Some word processor. If you want to do all your work in one sitting, you should be ok. And you can load files saved under dos (not dosemu). My config file is rather simple. The imporant options are (maybe?): keybint off timint on RawKeyboard You also might want to activate dosemu's graphics or work your way through all the WP config menus to set the screen to some "normal" mode. Scott ------------------------------ From: heiser@bumetb.bu.edu (Bill Heiser) Subject: Re: High speed modems & Linux Date: 23 Aug 1993 23:41:08 GMT Reply-To: heiser@bumetb.bu.edu (Bill Heiser) In article kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca (Kevin G. Fisher) writes: > Ok, this may be a dumb naiive question, but please bear with me. I >just purchased a 14.4 modem (yay!). It works great on my 386-40 running SLS >1.02...but one thing I've noticed. Whenever I'm doing a file transfer at >14.4, if I do anything (ie start up XV or something) while the transfer is >happening, it looses packets until whatever I started is loaded. I realize >this problem is probably caused by the cpu, uart or whatever being unable to >keep up... Well I just tried a UUCP transfer of an 800kb file using a Hayes 14.4K modem ... and only averaged 700cps. Not good, since with he same modem on a DOS machine (the same machine actually), I get 1600+. Also I noticed (using 'top') that uucico was using excessive amounts of CPU time (something like 14%!!). This is on a 486/33 with 16mb, 16mb swap, .99P12, 16550AN on the port. -Bill ------------------------------ From: dancy@uclink.berkeley.edu (Ahmon Dancy) Subject: Re: High speed modems & Linux Date: 23 Aug 1993 23:58:58 GMT In article <25bkik$qim@news.bu.edu>, Bill Heiser wrote: >Well I just tried a UUCP transfer of an 800kb file using a Hayes >14.4K modem ... and only averaged 700cps. Not good, since with he UUCP isn't really a good way to test transfer times. >same modem on a DOS machine (the same machine actually), I get 1600+. >Also I noticed (using 'top') that uucico was using excessive amounts >of CPU time (something like 14%!!). This is on a 486/33 with 16mb, -Ahmon ------------------------------ From: ashley@cco.caltech.edu (Allen M. Ashley) Subject: How to Use a Mitsumi CDROM Date: 24 Aug 1993 00:03:42 GMT I recently got a Mitsumi CDROM and I couldn't get it to run under Linux. With help from Jim Nance (extraordinary person), it is up and running and I want to pass on the procedure. Please forgive me if this is available elsewhere, but I didn't see it in the FAQ or in the installation guide. At least I don't remember it. The default settings on the dip switch for the mitsumi CRMC set the i/o port at 0x300 and the IRQ at 10. You have to enter these numbers into the file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mcd.h. They go into the lines 25 and 28 in SLS1.03. Check your switch/jumper settings, refer to the mitsumi manual and make the necessary changes to mcd.h. You then have to make config for the kernel and say yes to the ISO9660 file system and yes to the mitsumi cdrom. After the kernel is finished you have to use lilo to install it again. Then when you boot SLS1.03 you should see the message mitsumi installed or something like that. Put a CDrom into the drive and do: mkdir /cdrom mount -t iso9660 /dev/mcd0 /cdrom ls /cdrom umount /dev/mcd0 or whatever. That is as far as I have got. Hope this helps and remember all is due to Jim Nance. Thanks. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) Subject: Re: NT versus Linux Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 00:27:12 GMT In nick@quay.ie (Nick Hilliard) writes: >Mike Dahmus (mike@schleppo.bocaraton.ibm.com) wrote: >: Change the RUNWORKPLACE line in the config.sys to read "cmd.exe". This will >: start your system up in an OS/2 window instead of in the Workplace Shell. >You aren't seriously trying to suggest that the OS/2 command shell is even >in the same league as the most brain-dead Unix command line shells? Get a >life! Fine, then change RUNWORKPLACE to point to bash. (Pardon me, bash.exe) :-) >: Why do you have to do this? Linux has no real interface available. X-windows >: plus a window manager is not even as functional as OS/2's old desktop manager >: interface. >Awwww jeez! Give us a break. I'm cursed with having to use OS/2's (v2.1) >damned window manager every day. Any believe me, it's painful. Bob's argument was not whether or not OS/2's OO shell was painful, it was whether or not it was more functional. Personally, I agree with both of you. :-) >: Compare an OS/2 system like this to a standalone linux box running X, and the >: OS/2 system will blow it away. Period. I speak from experience. This comment, otoh, is preposterous. Also speaking from experience. :-) >[Awwww jeez! Give us a break]^2 (note the simple mouse operated cut & paste >-- sadly lacking in non X systems) However, I don't understand this comment. OS/2 has simple mouse- operated c&p. Not as simple or as useful as X's, but there nonetheless. >And while I'm in the mood, who-in-the-name-of-god is responsible for that >"PM Terminal" load-of-crud-excuse of a comms program. It's just so >appalling that I can't find words to describe how pathetically useless it >is. It just epitomises the worst aspects of this goddamn Object >Oriented interface that OS/2 is so full of. I fart in its general direction. PMterm indeed sucks raw eggs. However, it's not even *slightly* OO. It uses exactly *zero* SOM features. >And how exactly do you use remote displays on OS/2 machines? Use OS2toyou. :-) >Although if you use IBM's pathetic excuse of an X >windows server (PMX), you can get some form of crippled functionality >(provided it doesn't crash, or fail to give you proper colors, or just not >work.) And the problems with PMX are why IBM is releasing a complete new 32-bit version that includes an X client and xlib. The current version is for OS/2 1.x. Which should say just about everything right there. :-) OC, this points up one small advantage of OS/2 (sorta). Currently you can run TCP/IP, PMX, and NFS on a 286 using OS/2 1.x. Try running any flavor of Linux on a 286. :-) -- Chris Waters | "By experimentation, I have found that if I stand still and xtifr@netcom.COM| spin a universe around me, I get dizzy." -- W. Allison ------------------------------ From: zak@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Zachary S Smith) Subject: "Spying" on ttyS0 Date: 24 Aug 1993 01:29:41 GMT I run a dial-in system, and most of my users are new to unix. Is there any way I can assign, say, tty8 to look like the remote user's screen? I just need a way to see if they are floundering, so I can give them a hand. -- Zak Smith zak@csd4.csd.uwm.edu 414-966-3551 voice OS2 & LINUX ------------------------------ From: ilg@imp.ch (Philippe Steindl) Subject: Re: Does the Adaptec 1542C have problems? Date: 24 Aug 1993 03:20:55 +0200 Hello, I think one should make this clear: Ther was NEVER a problem with the Adaptec 1542C. The signals of the C version has steeper flanks, so you need a better SCSI cable if connectiong something externally and only if you want to use a "round" cable. The "flat" SCSI cables used internally and, if you want, externally can be as cheap as you want it (mine cost 6$). If you use the Adaptec 1542C (I do .. and one of the first ones :) ), then disable the 3 options in its BIOS that give you a warning when enabling them (don't remeber the exact wording :-) ) and everything should work. happy adaptecing Philippe ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy From: muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Subject: Re: NT versus Linux Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 23:24:48 GMT >> On 20 Aug 93 17:50:34 GMT, brileary@world.std.com (Brian Leary) >> said: In general he said a lot of things which show that he doesn't read or ignores sensible replies and rebuttals, and on purpose spreads misinformation in order to discredit Linux and plug windows-NT. I wonder what Microsoft pays for this. I'm sure they have their agents everywhere, if they pay so much attention to marketing they might also put people like this on the net. BL> A few neutral observations in this subject: Neutral? This is not funny! BL> But that's not all, there is also the LYNCH MOB MENTALITY. After BL> hearing about how dum and gullible we are for two years, as soon as an BL> objective comparison that shows that linux is not the ultimate os is BL> posted here, the linux lynch mob mentality takes over, and we're BL> burried by an article after another of vulgar flames. Even though the BL> comparison was not posted to their group. Not lynch mob of everything, but yes indeed against Microsoft, because they are evil and want to strangle us all with a monopoly; every computer user with some moral should resist this. BL> Observation #3: BL> For a long time they kidded us about how NT is vaporware. The general BL> consensus among them is that NT will never see the light of day, and BL> our replies that it is coming out "soon" were laughed at. But look at BL> what they are saying right now: Loadable device drivers... "soon", BL> Drag and drop... "R6 is out any day now", Running ODS apps... BL> "emulator is coming along nicely", Running Winodws apps... "WABI is BL> almost here", ..etc. ..etc. What a joke! If you look at the pace of development, you can know that these things to come soon are no joke. In the past other things were announced and have become a reality very fast. Compare that to how long it took for Microsoft to make Windows a product that was ready to sell. They started in 1985 and untill 1992 it was too unstable and useless to sell. What came out was acceptible only to computer users that had only experience with DOS before, so they were very easy to make happy. Everyone who was used to decent computers, like Unix workstations with X11, or VAX/VMS, or Mac, was horrified but for the DOS users it was even a great step forwards. BL> Observation #4: Linux is inferior to DOS! How's that? Well, DOS BL> has loadable device drivers, linux doesn't. Your printer and BL> modem use the same IRQ? No problem in Windows, just don't use BL> them at the same time. In linux, you have to use the modem a BL> little, stop, recompile the kernel with the printer enabled and BL> the modem disabled, use the printer a little, stop, recompile, BL> use the modem, stop, ...etc. Two drivers that use the same IRQ BL> cannot live in the same kernel, even if none of them is used! Simply not true. I have two serial ports on the same IRQ (a total of three ports I have). I can use both of them, but not at the same time. By the way, if that is your only criterium to conclude that one system is better than another one, further talking makes not much sense. BL> Observation #5: Not only that linux doesn't support drag an BL> drop, its users have no concept of what drag and drop is! Most BL> of them think it's just cut and paste, as can be seen clearly in BL> the "rebuttals". The only way to get drag and drop in linux is BL> to pay $299 (NT is less expensive, how ironic) to buy Motif, and BL> virtually no Motif application makes use of it anyway, and you BL> cannot drag and drop between Motif and Xaw applications. I know what drag and drop is. Everyone who has used OpenLook knows. You can have OpenLook for free (including source code) for Linux. So you can have drag and drop. By the way I don't like it, many don't like it. Why do Windows-users like it? Because they are not used to anything decent, and often have really this attitude that DOS/Windows is the only thing and the only standard. What is different is 'strange' and 'not correct', a very simple-minded view. BL> Observation #6: Linux users have no idea what multimedia support BL> is. Multimedia support is NOT that the os is able to talk to a BL> sound card! DOS can do that. It is that the os has inherent BL> layering facilities to do multimedia. To run a full motion BL> picture clip or play a MIDI song via the sequencer in Windows, BL> you just call a single API function (e.g. MciSendCommand). Ugh. Put that in the operating system? You don't need that. It can all be done as application code. Ever heard of MPEG with sound support? If that is no multimedia, then what is?!? BL> Observation #8: Q: What does linux do when it runs low on BL> memmory? A: IT FALTERS! The only os I have seen that locks up BL> when it runs low in memory. Every linux user must constantly BL> watch for memory useage, if linux needs a few more kilobytes BL> than are available, it doesn't complain, it just crawls to a BL> halt before dying a miserable death, taking down the whole BL> system with it. Not true. Maybe in older versions, but at the moment not. BL> Need I say more? There is still lots to talk about: the flaky BL> file system, the feeble networking, ..etc. ..etc. You showed again how badly informed and biassed you are. BL> Linux users, get a clue! Your os is shit. And remember, we BL> didn't start this. I've used quite a lot of operating systems. For quite some years. I have enough material for comparison. Linux is no shit, it is great, although I admit that it is not (yet?) ready to replace commercial operating systems. And that was also not the original goal. It allows me however to run all the nice Unix apps at home, for free. The most important thing is to be able to experiment with/hack on a real Unix-like operating system. I think people typing letters on a computer are a completely different class of users from software developers or people working in a technical environment. NT or Windows is fine for wordperfect etc. -- _______________________________________________________________ Peter Mutsaers, Bunnik (Ut), the Netherlands. Disclaimer: This reflects the official opinions of my employer. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy From: muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Subject: Re: NT versus Linux Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 06:03:57 GMT >> On 20 Aug 1993 14:31:23 -0400, chrisl@ncms.org (Chris Lang) said: CL> Only a fool can believe any more that there will be a single CL> winner in the OS wars, whether it be NT, OS/2, or any flavor of CL> Unix. Why not turn some of this energy away from making up CL> ridiculous and ignorant claims about competing operating CL> systems, and turn it instead toward making the system of your CL> choice the best it can be. The proof is in the pudding, after CL> all. I do agree that there will not be a single winner. But what makes NT so aggressive, and what makes other react to it the way it is done, is that Microsoft with its aggressive marketint keeps on saying that windows will be everywhere and that NT will conquer almost the whole OS market. And some of the analists and others even repeat that, as if they were hired by Microsoft! Without almost anyone has even seen NT, the whole 'world' is talking about it. Microsoft makes the most arrogant claims about it; that provocates OS wars and anti-reactions. If only Microsoft would be more cooperative and would want to work together with other OS suppliers/developers for common standards and inter-connectivity. But they do not do that, they follow a policy of war and clearly want to make a monopoly. The stupid thing is that there are already systems like NT that offer the same things, but even a better implementation of a true microkernel; for example Mach. But many people seem somehow hypnotized by Microsoft, they only gaze at what Microsoft is doing, and the rest of the market just doesn't seem to exist. When they claim that 'NT is the best operating system', with what do they compare? Only with other Microsoft products. Or maybe with a few other products, selected by Microsoft itself as comparisons that NT will look good with. -- _______________________________________________________________ Peter Mutsaers, Bunnik (Ut), the Netherlands. Disclaimer: This reflects the official opinions of my employer. ------------------------------ From: claudius@cymbal.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius (Chris Knight)) Subject: Why not create/use auto VESA SVGA X11 drivers? (Possible FAQ entry?) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 02:22:24 GMT Can someone tell me why there is not currently a VESA autodetecting SVGA driver developed for Linux? I'm thinking primarily of one like the one bundled with "fractint"...sure it's not as efficient as writing card-specific drivers...but it'd make my life a lot easier...:( Or another option would be to write a driver that would use the code in a Windows driver [eek!] There's got to be a better way than coming up with yet another proprietary format for drivers... [And before you tell me to write my own, give me the $50-$100 it'd cost me to purchase the books on writing SVGA drivers to do so. Then I'll do it.] -- claudius@cymbal.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius) (GCS d? p- c++ l+ u+++ e+ m++ s++/- n h--- f+ g+ w+ t+ r+ y+) ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via: Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Misc Digest ******************************