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Subject:  Linux-Misc Digest #326

Linux-Misc Digest #326, Volume #1                Sun, 21 Nov 93 20:18:39 EST

Contents:
  Re: [Tar -x gives error /dev/rmt0 not found (Nicholas Ambrose)
  Re: how fast is linux? (Marc J. Fraioli)
  Re: ALPHA99.13r (Robert Sanders)
  Download Linux - (215) 489-9732 14.4k ISLAND/II BBS (Amorphik)
  Re: Looking to buy Linux CD(s) (Alfred Longyear)
  XFree86/ Cirrus Logic (Shekhar Mahadevan)
  [HELP]: GCC internal error - received signal 11 (Mark Buckaway)
  Re: Linux, Austin, and IN2000.... (Mark Buckaway)
  Re: [term compilation error under school's sun workstation (Matthew Rhoten)
  Request for Help at UT-Austin
  Re: Looking to buy Linux CD(s) (John H. F. Mills)
  Re: Tape Backups H/W (John Will)
  Re: Video Cards Supported (John Will)
  Re: how fast is linux? (John Will)
  Cirrus Logic /XFree86 (Shekhar Mahadevan)
  UN: sysinstall -disk (Donald George)

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From: na2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Nicholas Ambrose)
Subject: Re: [Tar -x gives error /dev/rmt0 not found
Date: 21 Nov 1993 14:54:08 -0000


In article <2cm9ak$4fp@pandora.sdsu.edu>, mlee@eng.sdsu.edu (Mike Lee) writes:
|> 
|> hello, I am having trouble trying to uncompress things using tar -x.  The 
|> error I keep on getting is /dev/rmt0 is not present.  I checked the /dev
|> directory and it is there.  What am I doing funny?  
|> 
|> Thanks for any advise...Mike
|> 
assuming you are un-tarrinf from disk, try
  tar -xf <file-name>
i think the -f param telles tar tou use the disk, not the default tape drive
Nick
-- 
In the long run, every program becomes rococo, and then rubble.
                -- Alan Perlis

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From: mjf@clark.net (Marc J. Fraioli)
Subject: Re: how fast is linux?
Date: 21 Nov 1993 11:03:41 -0500

In article <Nov.20.18.01.24.1993.410@geneva.rutgers.edu>,
Charles Hedrick <hedrick@geneva.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>You probably want 8MB if you're going to
>run X.

Is this sufficient?  This is what I have now (in a 486/33), and I'm thinking
about Linux, but I was worried that I needed more memory for X.  OS/2 2.1 runs
ok on it-- how does Linux generally compare?  Anyone?

-- 
Marc Fraioli                           |   The opinions expressed above may
mjf@clark.net                          |   disintegrate if exposed to bright
                                       |   light.

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From: gt8134b@prism.gatech.EDU (Robert Sanders)
Subject: Re: ALPHA99.13r
Date: 21 Nov 93 16:55:15 GMT

root@jacobs.mn.org (Mike Horwath) writes:

>Defilippo Francesco (clint@hal9000.unipv.it) wrote:
>: Hello I'v tryed to compile the alpha version of linux 99.13r with new
>: gcc 2.5.3 but it have fount a lot of error.

>:              |       Francesco Defilippo      |
>:              |      clint@hal9000.unipv.it    |

>wow, this helps us alot there.

>Please, tell us what the errors were and maybe we can help, and this
>article should maybe go to comp.os.linux.help instead, but that is
>left for the original poster to move :)

The problems are caused by the way __attribute__ is handled.  You should
change one file (I think):

  linux/include/linux/kernel.h:   Lines 31-40 should read like this
                                  (sans the begin and end markers, of course):
---begin---
#if __GNUC__ < 2 || __GNUC_MINOR__ < 5
# define NORET(x) __volatile__ x
#else
# define NORET(x) x
#endif

extern void math_error(void);
void panic(const char * fmt, ...)
        __attribute__ ((format (printf, 1, 2), noreturn));
void do_exit(long error_code) __attribute__ ((noreturn));
---end---

The problems are that 1) attributes shoud only be given at declaration
time, not definition, and 2) multiple attributes must all be given within
the same __attribute__(()).

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From: amorphik@cellar.org (Amorphik)
Subject: Download Linux - (215) 489-9732 14.4k ISLAND/II BBS
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 18:11:05 EST

No FTP access?

YOU can still get linux.

Just fire up 'yer 14.4k modem and dial (215) 489-9732 and get into file
section #23 for close to 40 megs of Linux stuff.  We have the complete SLS
online.  Also, lots of other goodies... lots of current stuffs, also.

This is a public service to help spread Linux.  This system has a NO UPLOADS
EVER REQUIRED policy... and if you leave a message to me, the sysop, I can
even set it up for you (with a high speed modem, of course) to grab Linux
in one big session, if you are so inclined.

No restrictions: I will work WITH YOU to get Linux into your hands.  No 
postal service disk-swapping transactions, though, I simply don't have the 
time... but I will give you all the access you need to get Linux from calling 
the number of the BBS in this message.

--
amorphik@cellar.org (Amorphik)
The Cellar: an electronic community and public access system  (215) 539-3043


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From: longyear@netcom.com (Alfred Longyear)
Subject: Re: Looking to buy Linux CD(s)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 17:59:43 GMT

chris@thoday.demon.co.uk (EurIng Chris Thoday) writes:

>In article <CGIC4r.15t@ritz.mordor.com> es@ritz.mordor.com "E. Coli" writes:

>>Also, anyone know of good Unix software CD's (source code) other than the
>>GNU source CDROM (which I already own the May 1993 edition of...)
>>

>You can get two CD's and a book: "Prime Time Freeware for UNIX", by
>Rich Morin, ptf@cfcl.com. There's more than 3000 Mb of source code and
>documentation but you don't have to make it all at once :-).
>Version 2-2 was published in July 93 and the next issue is due early
>next year.

There are atleast two others.

Walnut Creek CDROM      800-786-9907     510-674-0783
  * X11R5/GNU CDROM - The X11 Window System, and FSF's GNU software
  * Source Code CDROM -- Over 600 Megs of Unix and MSDOS Source code

InfoMagic CDROM         800-800-6613     609-683-5501
  * Internet Tools CDROM - KA9Q / SNMP packages / Network Deamons, etc.
  * UNIX CDROM - 386BSD 0.1, NetBSD, LINUX 0.99.10
  * Source Code CDROM - Net2, Mach, GNU, InterViews, X11R5, Andred, XFree86
  * Usenet CDROM - comp.sources.*, and other FAQ documents from news.answers

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From: mahadev@Erc.MsState.Edu (Shekhar Mahadevan)
Subject: XFree86/ Cirrus Logic
Date: 21 Nov 93 16:38:28 GMT


Hello Linuxers!

My laptop seems to have a Cirrus Logic CLGD 6420 chipset. From the
XFree86 HOWTO, it appears to be unsupported. Could someone advise me
as to my best option to get X running on my Linux system?

Shekhar                 mahadev@erc.msstate.edu
--

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From: mark@datasoft.com (Mark Buckaway)
Subject: [HELP]: GCC internal error - received signal 11
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 03:34:26 GMT

I've seen this in the FAQ, however, greping through it I cannot find the
answer.

I have installed 0.99.13p. I have also added memory to bring my system from
8Meg to 20Meg.  I am running GCC 2.4.5 which I compiled from the original
sources.

Now, occasionally, GCC gives up reporting "Internal error - received a
signal 11". This never happened when I was running 0.99.13. It appears to
be some sort of memory problem. The only cure currently is to reboot.

Any ideas? This is a minor problem, but annoying. Where should I start
looking?

Mark

--
==============================================================================
Mark Buckaway           | root@datasoft.com         |  DataSoft Communications
DataSoft Communications | uunorth!datasoft!root     |  62 Rock Fernway
System Administrator    | Voice: +1 416 756 4497    |  Willowdale, ON M2J 4N5
==============================================================================
    "UNIX and OS/2 are operating systems. Windows is a shell, and
                         DOS is an boot virus"
==============================================================================

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From: mark@datasoft.com (Mark Buckaway)
Subject: Re: Linux, Austin, and IN2000....
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 05:41:39 GMT

Jim choate (ravage@wixer.bga.com) wrote:

: Hi everyone,

: I am building a linux based public dial-in (for a cost off course) here in
: central Texas. I am using a 386/40 w/ a IN-2000 SCSI ctllr. I am having
: problems when any software tries to access the hardrive, even fdisk. It hangs
: and eventually gives a scsi host time out error. The access lite on the hd
: works fine.

: Have tried syn and async, irq 14 and 15 w/o help.

: We are using the special a1 boot disk specific to the IN-2000.

: Any idea why this is happening. Has worked fine w/ dos and os/2 for over a
: year. Thanks for your suggestions and help ahead of time....

: Anyone out there using RIP or NAPLPS on linux? I help develop a bbs package
: for dos we are going to try to port over to linux. If we can get it to work
: inside the dosemul util then it will be available a lot sooner.....

Basically, after weeks of fiddling with the IN2000 driver, I came to the
conclusion it is just plain broken. Although it supposedly works on 95% of
the system, it does not work under Linux on my 386DX40. I have installed a
Adaptec 1542b, and it works fine. And has worked from the first
installation.

I am not suggesting that the IN2000 card is junk, just the Linux driver. In
have contact Always for developer information so that I MIGHT fix the
driver, but have not heard back from them.

If you are in a rush, buy an Adaptec SCSI card.

Mark
--
==============================================================================
Mark Buckaway           | root@datasoft.com         |  DataSoft Communications
DataSoft Communications | uunorth!datasoft!root     |  62 Rock Fernway
System Administrator    | Voice: +1 416 756 4497    |  Willowdale, ON M2J 4N5
==============================================================================
    "UNIX and OS/2 are operating systems. Windows is a shell, and
                         DOS is an boot virus"
==============================================================================

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From: mrhoten@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Matthew Rhoten)
Subject: Re: [term compilation error under school's sun workstation
Date: 21 Nov 93 20:50:03 GMT


While we're at it, make sure you're using the Makefile.sun that
came with term, not the regular Makefile, eg

make -f Makefile.sun

 -matt
-- 
Matthew Rhoten - his .signature, his opinions.
mrhoten@cs.stanford.edu | mrhoten@eskimo.com | mattrh@microsoft.com
"I'm not sure I remember HOW to sleep."
 -Dan Sommerfield

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From: root@TaRDiS ()
Subject: Request for Help at UT-Austin
Date: 21 Nov 1993 21:15:05 GMT

My apologies for the format of this message.  I really am quite a bit of a
tyro at this, and know it....

HELP!  I have successfully managed to get SLIP on Linux slackware
communicating with the University of
Texas network.  I have managed to compile a version of trn (2.2) which
communicates directly with the mailserver here to read newsgroups.  I am
not, however, able to send and receive email--the instructions I've been
given don't seem to be very helpful.

The problem is, the UT-Net people don't seem to be too familiar with the
requirements of a Linux user--they expect you're going to use a MACINTOSH or
a DOS system with provided SLIP software.

Can anybody here at the University of Texas at Austin contact me by phone?
I'd like to get together with someone who might be able to give me a few
pointers on setting up something a little better kluged.  Mail and news
daemons, etc.

Please call me voice at (512) 206-0370, a local number here in Austin,
Texas.  Please leave a message on the answering machine if you don't get
me--I'll be happy to return your call!

Please disregard any .sig information, as it's probably from the system
defaults....  ;-)


Rob Levin
From my IF account, UT-Austin

Irrelevant material, if any, follows here:


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From: ntsoft@login.dkuug.dk (John H. F. Mills)
Subject: Re: Looking to buy Linux CD(s)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 21:47:23 GMT

longyear@netcom.com (Alfred Longyear) writes:

>chris@thoday.demon.co.uk (EurIng Chris Thoday) writes:

>>In article <CGIC4r.15t@ritz.mordor.com> es@ritz.mordor.com "E. Coli" writes:

>>>Also, anyone know of good Unix software CD's (source code) other than the
>>>GNU source CDROM (which I already own the May 1993 edition of...)
>>>

>>You can get two CD's and a book: "Prime Time Freeware for UNIX", by
>>Rich Morin, ptf@cfcl.com. There's more than 3000 Mb of source code and
>>documentation but you don't have to make it all at once :-).
>>Version 2-2 was published in July 93 and the next issue is due early
>>next year.

>There are atleast two others.

>Walnut Creek CDROM      800-786-9907     510-674-0783
>  * X11R5/GNU CDROM - The X11 Window System, and FSF's GNU software
>  * Source Code CDROM -- Over 600 Megs of Unix and MSDOS Source code

>InfoMagic CDROM         800-800-6613     609-683-5501
>  * Internet Tools CDROM - KA9Q / SNMP packages / Network Deamons, etc.
>  * UNIX CDROM - 386BSD 0.1, NetBSD, LINUX 0.99.10
>  * Source Code CDROM - Net2, Mach, GNU, InterViews, X11R5, Andred, XFree86
>  * Usenet CDROM - comp.sources.*, and other FAQ documents from news.answers

I've got acces to a number of these...
Ptf is very good... you look for what you need in the index and then you are
pointed to a CONSISTANT package, (ptf also markets other CDs for AI,
Unixware (if you need an SDK)... e-mail to them they can EVEN provide
poitners elsewhere.

Infomagic is making assorted specialist collections, which compliment
other packages.... not so easy to use, but a much better than searching
the net for something that MIGHT be there... I've also read that Infomagic
is selling a regual dump of tsx.11 and sunsite linux areas.

BEst Wishes John

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From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will)
Subject: Re: Tape Backups H/W
Date: 19 Nov 93 14:49:00 GMT

S >>included a schematic and source code (assembler and C).  It is designed to
S >>work off the expansion port.  As to how fast it backs up...  Well, you 
S >>might time it with a calendar I would guess.
S >
S >Well, it's a cheap and safe way.

It may be the cheap way, but your data is hardly "safe" on a VCR. :-)
My input is why bother to backup at all if you're going to put it onto
something as dicey as a VCR backup? :-)

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From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will)
Subject: Re: Video Cards Supported
Date: 20 Nov 93 20:14:00 GMT

ER>This is NOT an endorsement, but I use, and am happy with, the Trident 8900cl.
ER>1MB of RAM, it sells for around $50.  My roommie's SO recommends them
ER>highly, though ... :)

You must not be a performance "junkie". :-)

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From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will)
Subject: Re: how fast is linux?
Date: 21 Nov 93 19:00:00 GMT

HR>>He's right, man!  I run Linux and X11 on a 368DX-25, 8MB, no cache and
HR>>a herc monochrome board.  X performance and usability suck rocks
HR>>compared to a SPARC-10 with 32MB, a 19 inch color monitor.
HR>
HR>I assume the reply is a joke, the point being that speed of an OS
HR>depends upon the hardware configuration.  My own experience and that
HR>of others on the net is that Linux manages to get reasonable
HR>performance out of minimal hardware, and performs very well indeed
HR>with good hardware.  Performance seems to be better for given hardware
HR>than most other Unix or Unix-like systems.

I have to agree, I have a Sun IPX with 32mb along side a 486DX2-50 with
16mb, and it's hard to tell the difference on most tasks, and Linux is
considerably faster for most disk intensive operation, no doubt due to
the extensive buffering.  In general, I think the performance of Linux
on reasonable hardware is very respectable.  Now, if I could only get
the networking stuff working a bit more reliably... :-)

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From: mahadev@Erc.MsState.Edu (Shekhar Mahadevan)
Subject: Cirrus Logic /XFree86
Date: 21 Nov 93 16:54:18


Hello Linuxers:

I have a laptop with a Cirrus Logic CLGD 6420 chipset SVGA card. I
don't have any docs on it but XFree86 apparently does not support it
yet. What is my best option to get X running on my Linux box? I tried
running in the VGA2 generic monochrome mode, but, startx complains
that it cannot find the mouse and gives the message: "Failed to
initialize core devices" or something to that effect. Could someone
guide me through starting X up on my machine? BTW, I think I have a
PS/2 mouse hooked into a PS/2 mouse port and therefore my links are
        /dev/mouse -> /dev/ps2aux 
and the Mouse config line in /usr/lib/X11/Xconfig is 
        ps/2    "/dev/mouse".

What am I doing wrong?

I do not currently receive this newsgroup, so, please send to 
mahadev@erc.msstate.edu. I get only 'comp.os.linux.announce' and
'alt.os.linux'.

Thanks

Shekhar
--

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From: donald.george@channel1.com (Donald George)
Subject: UN: sysinstall -disk
Date: 21 Nov 93 06:17:00 GMT

I have been having problem using "sysinstall -disk" whenever I want install
packages from my floppy drive.  Whenever I run it, it prompts me to put a
disk in the drive. When I put a disk containing the package that I want to
install, it doesn't even
recognize the drive, no access light or anything. After putting a disk
in the drive and pressing the ENTER key, it will prompt me 3 times to put a
disk in the drive, I keep pressing return at each prompt,
and then it (sysinstall) just exits after the third time.

Normally I boot off of the floppy that was created after I finished the
installation process ( I installed the entire Linux package).
Booting from that disk I always encounter the problem. However,
strangely I ran a test and booted off of the "a1" installation disk, and
tried to run "sysinstall -disk" and it work just fine as far as recognizing
the floppy drive and all.

Any help is greatly appreciated!
DG

By the way my system configuration is as follows

Linux .99 patch level 12
386-DX 25 Mhz
4 megs of RAM

2 Hard Drives
1ST DRIVE 170MB
  hda1 => All Dos
2ND DRIVE ~420MB
  hdb1 => ~202MB Linux
  hdb2 => 16MB Linux swap partition
  hdb3 => more Dos

2 FLOPPIES
  A: => 3 1/2" 1.44MB
  B: => 5 1/4" 1.2MB
---
 ~ SLMR 2.1a ~ GET THEE DOWN.  BE THOU FUNKY.

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