From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 03:13:30 EST Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #310 Linux-Misc Digest #310, Volume #1 Thu, 18 Nov 93 03:13:30 EST Contents: Re: free X things, was Re: WD8003_w_telnet (Alan Cox) NIS/YP ?? (Jocke Berglund) Re: Video Cards Supported? What should I buy! (Larry Doolittle) Re: /etc/passwd (Jonathan Miner) Re: Japanese TeX questions (Jim Breen) Problem with ext2fs (Scott Barker) ANNOUNCE: Minix fs editor(viewer) for file recovery + Docs on the fs. (Scott D. Heavner) Re: Linux Mirror in UK/Europe (Hugh Evans (ESA/ESTEC/WMA Netherlands)) Orchid Farenheit 1280+ ISA clocks? (Elan Feingold) Re: Linux Mirror in UK/Europe (Tim Towers) Manual pages on internal kernel functions (Corey Carroll Apt. 212) OS/2 and X-Windows (COULT NICHOLAS ASHTON) Looking for a decent system to run Linux (Derek Hackbardt) Strange behaviour of malloc!! Is it (gasp) broken? (Jagath Samarabandu) Re: XFREE and OAK Video Board (marauder) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: free X things, was Re: WD8003_w_telnet Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 12:40:56 GMT In article rick@sundance.SJSU.EDU (Richard Warner) writes: >This seems to be a popular comeback. But let's face it - LINUX is a hacker's >toy and is great for a small segment of the population that is willing >and able to devote the time, energy, and money to getting it to work. For Took me longer to make windows vaguely work. Linux is currently less than perfectly easy to configure but remember two things - its more powerful and thus has more options and also its the configuration tools that are the issue not the system. >that small segment of the population, XFree is a good thing. Also, let's >get one thing straight. LINUX and XFree are not 'free' - minimum cost >of putting this combination on a PC is $75 for hardware (you really need >100 Mb of disk space, and current prices are $.75/Mb), but can be much >greater if your hardware needs to be upgraded to comply with the narrow >range of options supported under this environment. We could also add in >the cost of the dowload time+diskettes or the CD-ROM, but that varies >all over the map so I won't bother. Cost me negative money. I already had the hardware and it saved my buying windows. >So, let's phrase an answer for these folks. There is no such thing as >a free X-server software for mainstream, commercial, vendor supported >PC operating environments. For those who need/desire to run one of Funny, could of sworn the Xfree86 runs on BSDI, SCO and most other commercial 386 unixen. I guess I was hallucinating. Xfree86 pretty much predates free Unixes. Alan ------------------------------ From: jocke@krynn.solace.mh.se (Jocke Berglund) Subject: NIS/YP ?? Date: 17 Nov 1993 15:37:50 +0100 Do anyone out there hav nis or yp for linux ?? I'm setting up a network with linux boxes connected to a sun server and it would be very nice if i could use nis/yp for the passwd.. Joakim Berglund jocke@solace.mh.se ' ------------------------------ From: doolitt@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (Larry Doolittle) Subject: Re: Video Cards Supported? What should I buy! Reply-To: doolitt@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (Larry Doolittle) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 15:21:18 GMT In article , erc@khijol.yggdrasil.com (Ed Carp) writes: > > This is NOT an endorsement, but I use, and am happy with, the Trident 8900cl. > 1MB of RAM, it sells for around $50. My roommie's SO recommends them > highly, though ... :) > -- > Ed Carp, N7EKG erc@wetware.com 510/659-9560 Well, Ed, don't ever try one of the $150ish S3-801 or S3-805 based cards (STB PowerGraph and Actix GraphicsEngine32 come to mind), or you will lose your happiness with your obsolete non-accelerated card! You know those little scroll bars on the side of xman pages? With one of these S3 cards, it acts like you are sliding a real sheet of paper past the window! - Larry Doolittle doolittle@cebaf.gov ------------------------------ From: miner@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com (Jonathan Miner) Subject: Re: /etc/passwd Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 19:35:30 GMT In article <2ccb5r$g1q@shockley.ee.rochester.edu> lho@shockley.ee.rochester.edu (Ling Cherd Ho) writes: > >Can someone tell me how to execute a program which I put >in the shell field of /etc/passwd with arguement? >eg. i want to run screen -e tcsh as soon as someone login. > >Thanks >... >cherd You'll have to throw a wrapper around it, since /etc/passwd does not support command line args. Jon -- | Jonathan Miner | * * | | miner@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com | / | | 603-885-2438 <> | \______/ | #include ------------------------------ From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen) Crossposted-To: sci.lang.japan Subject: Re: Japanese TeX questions Date: 17 Nov 1993 14:11:56 GMT peterh@prz.tu-berlin.de (Peter Hofmann) writes: >I'm planning to install a Japanese TeX/LaTeX package on my Linux PC. Before >I invest lots of time to compile and install or get megabytes of software >from the JE package I would like know >1. Which of the two packages (NTT-jtex or ASCII-jtex) is better? >2. Does any of the two packages support top to bottom/right to left > writing? >3. Which of the two packages is included in JE? >4. What experience did you have using jtex? >I'm thankful for every hint, I took a different tack, and installed jem2tex, which is a front-end which allows Japanese to be printed in ordinary LaTeX documents. Works fine, quality is quite acceptable. If you are interested, the .zip is in monu6, along with all the 300 and 360dpi fonts (save a few hours of processing). -- Jim Breen [ジム.ブリーン@モナシュ大学] Institut National des Telecommunications | Dept Systemes et Reseaux 91011 Evry Cedex FRANCE (en Sabbatique) Email: jbreen@hugo.int-evry.fr Phone: +33 1 60 76 45 84 Fax: +33 1 60 76 47 11 ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: barker@enel.ucalgary.ca (Scott Barker) Subject: Problem with ext2fs Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 20:46:48 GMT I just discovered a problem with ext2fs, I think. I'm running on a 50 Mhz 486DX/2 with EISA bus, ADAPTEC 1542b SCSI controller, and a SCSI hard drive. Anyway, I noticed that when I manipulate large files - whether copying them from another partition or creating them by gunzipping smaller files, or by copying them from tape - the file system becomes corrupted. Has anyone else had this problem with large files and ext2fs? By large, I mean anything over about 7 Meg. Is this perhaps due to some limitation in the ext2fs? -- Scott Barker barker@enel.ucalgary.ca "I don't know about all this sex on television, I keep falling off." - Monty Python ------------------------------ From: sdh@fishmonger.nouucp (Scott D. Heavner) Subject: ANNOUNCE: Minix fs editor(viewer) for file recovery + Docs on the fs. Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 18:42:07 GMT Reply-To: sdh@po.cwru.edu [ For some reason I can't post this to c.o.l.announce, I've tried twice in the past few days, Who's moderating it, Matt? Can someone get it over there? ] ============================================================================ This is lde, the Linux disk editor for Minix/Linux partitions. Currently only the Minix fs is supported (i.e. no ext2fx, xiafs, etc.) and it really isn't an editor, more of a viewer (it only has a read-only mode). Someday, it will be an editor, but right now it's main purpose is to recover files which may have been accidentally erased or just to poke around the filesystem to see what it's made of. I've written a LaTeX introduction to the Minix file system and am including it with the distribution, one day it may work it's way into the LDP. This project started as a major hack to fsck. Because of this, it is possible to compile fsck out of the same code, and I hope this will become the standard Minix fsck distribution. I've added a few options to fsck which are best documented in the man page. They allow you do dump single or multiple inodes or blocks to standard out. Also, there is some primitive search code to aid in recovering trashed files. Also, in fsck the functions write_table() and map_block() were allowed to write to the disk even if the repair flag was omitted. I have deactivated this "feature" and wonder if anyone can tell me why it is there? Scott D. Heavner sdh@po.cwru.edu November 11, 1993 This is a pre-release version. I'm kicking this out to get some feedback on the program and will release an official version in the next month, if I get any useful feedback. It is very usable, but there are probably many bugs which I have overlooked. It is read-only, so it won't hurt anything. I am interested to know how many people still use the Minix fs, feel free to write me if you have problems or if you find this program useful. Also, if you act now, you get a free mkfs patch which allows you to specify the number of inodes on the fs. This is useful to cut down the overhead on floppies (-i 32 frees up 14k -- from 1421 free blocks to 1435). This may also be useful to increase the number of inodes on a spool partition. This is a src and binary release, you get it all, even a free mkfs binary (6k, S&H included). ------------------------------ From: hevans@estwm0.wm.estec.esa.nl (Hugh Evans (ESA/ESTEC/WMA Netherlands)) Subject: Re: Linux Mirror in UK/Europe Reply-To: hevans@wm.estec.esa.nl Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 11:51:16 GMT In article , swilkins@west.uki.reuters.com (Steve Wilkinson) writes: |> |> |>Can anyone please tell me the best place to find a mirror of the |>Linux stuff (for 386) that is reasonably close to London. Commit FTP to: doc.ic.ac.uk - Imperial College, London cd /packages/Linux There are mirrors in this directory to: yggdrasil-mirror mcc-mirror slackware-mirror comp.os.linux.announce sunsite.unc-mirror funet-mirror tsx-11-mirror comp.os.linux Take your pick. |> Also, |>I would appreciate recommendations as to the best version to use - |>I need something for daily Internet access, but it doesn't need |>to be rock solid (conversely, it doesn't need to fall over every day!). |> I wouldn't even dare to start the SLS/Slackware/etc wars up again. :-) I use SLS, but it has been hacked a lot, so it is quite unique now. |>Thanks for any input in advance. |> |>Steve Wilkinson |>(swilkinson@west.uki.reuters.com) |> -- Hugh Evans European Space Research and Technology Centre - Noorwijk, Netherlands Internet: hevans@wm.estec.esa.nl SPAN: ESTWM2::hevans Here's to woman! Would that we could fall into her arms without falling into her hands. - Ambrose Bierce ------------------------------ From: elan@tasha.cheme.cornell.edu (Elan Feingold) Subject: Orchid Farenheit 1280+ ISA clocks? Date: 17 Nov 1993 16:35:02 GMT Reply-To: elan@tasha.cheme.cornell.edu (Elan Feingold) I just bought an Orchid Farenheit 1280+ ISA/16 bit video card. I saw similar cards in the cards database, but nothing that matched exactly. Can anyone tell me whether I should just go ahead and use the VLB numbers, or use other numbers, and if the latter, which numbers? Thanks in advance, Elan -- =========================================================================== | Elan Feingold | | | CS/EE Depts. | | | Cornell University | ( .sig currently under construction ) | | Ithaca NY 14850 | | =========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: tim@lorien.demon.co.uk (Tim Towers) Subject: Re: Linux Mirror in UK/Europe Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 21:02:00 +0000 In article Steve writes: > >Can anyone please tell me the best place to find a mirror of the >Linux stuff (for 386) that is reasonably close to London. In London, there is src.doc.ic.ac.uk, (Imperial College), look in /packages/linux/{tsx-11-mirror,sunsite.unc-mirror}. It holds more information than you could shake a stick at :-) However, the closest electronically depends on your routing - If you get Net access from elsewhere then who knows? To find out which is closest, use a program called 'traceroute', which lets you know all the machines/networks traversed on the way to a destination. >I would appreciate recommendations as to the best version to use - >I need something for daily Internet access, but it doesn't need >to be rock solid (conversely, it doesn't need to fall over every day!). if you wait a little while, the Debian distribution will be out - if you can't wait then Slackware is supposed to be very good (though I haven't used it myself). The most important question is actually - how much disk space can you spare? Tim -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Tim Towers | Don't believe everything you read | tim@lorien.demon.co.uk | | +44 952 811506 | or everything you write.. | PC Linux machine YEAH! | +-data/voice/fax---------PGP-key-available-----------------IRC-Grimwiz--------+ ------------------------------ From: corey@feenix.metronet.com (Corey Carroll Apt. 212) Subject: Manual pages on internal kernel functions Date: 17 Nov 93 10:13:21 GMT I found some man pages for a few of the internel kernel functions (the sources to the operating system itself) under man9 for the linux-documentation project. It was VERY sparse though. Is there anything more extensive, or am I going to have to just ponder /usr/src/linux to learn how an operating system works? -- Corey Carroll 1-214-319-6753 corey@feenix.metronet.com ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.unix.misc From: coult@magellan (COULT NICHOLAS ASHTON) Subject: OS/2 and X-Windows Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 18:06:46 GMT I have heard that, with the proper software, it is possible under OS/2 to run an X-server which serves applications remotely over a modem connection. I have some questions regarding this. 1. Is it really possible? 2. What software is needed to do this? 3. How fast would the modem have to be for this to be useable? 4. Is there any special software/hardware which would be needed on the other end of the connection? Any help is greatly appreciated. If you know of a good place to look for this information, please let me know. -Nick ------------------------------ From: hackbard@egr.msu.edu (Derek Hackbardt) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Looking for a decent system to run Linux Date: 17 Nov 1993 21:48:43 GMT I am in the process of purchasing a new system and I have not been keeping up with the new hardware developments in the PC area. I would like any recommendations as to a good system to run both DOS/WINDOZE and Linux. Some of the features I require are: 486 40-66Mhz 8M Ram 250-400M HD 1024x768 (minimum) SVGA video (to run X windows) High speed modem I would like to find out who the good companies are now-a-days, pros/cons as to the different bus types and processes model and brands, video cards, and of course prices.. Thank you all for your assistance.. Sincerely, Derek A. Hackbardt ===== /************************************************************************ Derek Alan Hackbardt Michigan State University Major: Computer Science,Computer Engineering, Electrical Engineering 210 Phillips Hall hackbard@mced.kodak.com Michigan State University hackbard@egr.msu.edu East Lansing, MI 48825-1105 hackbard@cps.msu.edu (517) 355-4835 hackbard@student.msu.edu *************************************************************************/ * The views expressed above are not representative of Michigan State U. * * or that of the Eastman Kodak Company. They're mine, so deal with it. * ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: bandu@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jagath Samarabandu) Subject: Strange behaviour of malloc!! Is it (gasp) broken? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 17:11:23 GMT Hello all, After having installed the brand spanking new Slackware 1.1.0 in a 486 DX/33 with 16M memory and 16M swap space I wanted to see how gcc performs with the program 'enquire.c'. When it came to the part of checking mallocable memory, it just died giving a seg fault. So I isolated the following code segment and ran it as shown (with malloc). It seem to allocate 100's of megs before seg faulting. When I ran it with calloc instead (commented part), it terminates normally, giving me approx 22M mallocable memory. So the question is 'Why malloc doesn't return NULL when it runs out of memory?' Perplexed, Bandu PS: enquire.c copyright notice: Author: Steven Pemberton, CWI, Amsterdam; steven@cwi.nl Copyright (c) 1988, 1989, 1990 Steven Pemberton, CWI, Amsterdam. All rights reserved. ================================= #include main(argc,argv) int argc; char *argv[]; { unsigned int size, total; char *calloc(), *malloc(); /* Code lifted from enquire.c with suitable modifications */ size=1<<31 -2 ; total=0; while (size!=0) { while ( malloc(size) /*calloc(size,1)*/ != (char *)NULL) { total += size/2; printf("%1dk sofar¥n", (total+511)/512); } size /= 2; } printf("Memory mallocatable ‾= %ld Kbytes¥n", (total+511)/512); } ------------------------------ From: marauder@netsys.com (marauder) Subject: Re: XFREE and OAK Video Board Date: 16 Nov 93 16:58:36 GMT Lawrence Houston (houston@norton.geog.mcgill.ca) wrote: : From article <1993Nov15.183020.22773@matuc2.mat.uc.pt>, by arsenio@mobix.uc.pt (): : > I 've installed Linux and i am configuring XFREE, but i can't : > get my videoboard chipset right, i 've a OAK videoboard with : > 1 Mb of memory. Could someone tell me what chipset to : > use in the Xconfig file, email me any help. Thanx. : Arsenio: : If you have XFree86 2.0, then support for the OAK Chipset is built into : XF86_SVGA and should be identified as something like oit067 or oit077. If : you are running XFree86 1.3 then you will need the XF86_SVGA Server which : Steve Goldman has kindly made available on ns.encore.com : (/pub/development/languages/C), to which he has added support for the OAK to check if your XF86_SVGA supports Oak simply try the command "XF86_SVGA -showconfig" This will list the chipsets recognized by your particular release If you see "oti-67" or "oti-77" you are in business (as these are the oak drivers" simply supply either of these as your chipset and try the Xconfig as is, most of the time you will be fine.. -mar ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via: Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Misc Digest ******************************