From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 14:14:37 EST Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #308 Linux-Misc Digest #308, Volume #1 Wed, 17 Nov 93 14:14:37 EST Contents: Tape Backups H/W (Thomas Monk) Re: Why Pascal is not... (was: WANTED: COBOL compiler) (Shun-Chang Tsai) Re: PPP (Brandon S. Allbery) Re: Tape Backups H/W (Randy Just) Linux Mosaic doc server?? Idea (Number 6) Re: Bogomip (al-b@minster.york.ac.uk) XFree 2.0 speed (was Re: Installing co-processor under Linux) (Andrzej Bieszczad) Re: Linux Mosaic doc server?? Idea (Bernard Matthews) /etc/passwd (Ling Cherd Ho) Who sells STB 4COM cards? (Mark Morley) Tcl/Tk Shared Libraries for Linux (David Engel) Using serial port terminals (Tethys) Re: New electronic magazine with Linus Torvalds interview (Kevin Smolkowski) Re: Hurd status and call for volunteers (Michael I Bushnell) Termcap entry for burrougs terminal (System Overlord) Re: Termcap entry for burroughs (pt1500) terminal (System Overlord) Re: Linux Mirror in UK/Europe (Basile STARYNKEVITCH) Re: BusLogic SCSI under Linux...compatible with AHA 1740 or not? (Mike Horwath) Re: how fast is linux? (Mike Horwath) XFREE and OAK Video Board (arsenio@mobix.uc.pt) Re: 19,200 bps Digicom Connection 14.4+ upgrade (Steve Yelvington) [Q] port to alpha-CPU (T. Fokuhl) Re: PPP (Frank Lofaro) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,sci.electronics From: tmonk@cse.dnd.ca (Thomas Monk) Subject: Tape Backups H/W Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 23:00:47 GMT Hi, I was wondering if anybody would know if there is a piece of hardware for a PC that can be used for accessing a VCR, for tape back ups. Or if someone would know where I could find a schematic for building one? The best possible device would be one that attached to either a parallel or serial port. Thanks for your help, Tom Monk. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Why Pascal is not... (was: WANTED: COBOL compiler) From: stsai@scws1.harvard.edu (Shun-Chang Tsai) Date: 16 Nov 93 22:50:29 GMT ig25@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig) writes: >nick@quay.ie (Nick Hilliard) writes: >[Followup to comp.lang.misc] >>If you can get your hands on it, have a look at "Why Pascal is not my >>Favourite Programming language", written by Brian Kernighan (or was it >>Ritchie?) It's a devastating (and justified, IMHO) attack on the >>deficiencies of Pascal, and why it should not be used. Where can I find this document? It's by Ritchie, I believe, and according to the _New Hacker's Dictionary_, it's never printed in any journal. ------------------------------ From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: PPP Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 23:22:32 GMT In article <1993Nov16.132002.14590@taylor.wyvern.com> mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis) writes: >bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >>There exists at present only one PPP implementation, and it's guaranteed to >>NOT do what you want --- I am mentioning it only in case someone else brings >>it up (which has happened before). > >Consider me bringing it up! Term does not work on SCO (won't compile, asked >for help twice and was ignored). And PPP comes with ODT. Besides, PPP >is fairly standard, and unlike term or slip it can be set up to be completely >automagic and uucp compatible. Since my post brought the PPP folks out of the woodwork :-) you're much better off checking with them... ...in the meantime, if you're *really* desperate you can see about running SLIP over a pty and attaching the other end of the pty in nos (you may need a program to connect two ptys back-to-back, since both dip and nos expect to see the slave end). Then attach a real serial port inside nos for PPP. The result would look like you were using a PPP gateway machine, except that the gateway would really be a separate process. (...talk about ugly hacks!) ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org "MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development." ---dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca ------------------------------ From: rjust@crl.com (Randy Just) Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,sci.electronics Subject: Re: Tape Backups H/W Date: 16 Nov 1993 17:10:42 -0800 Thomas Monk (tmonk@cse.dnd.ca) wrote: : Hi, : I was wondering if anybody would know if there is a piece : of hardware for a PC that can be used for accessing a VCR, for tape : back ups. : Or if someone would know where I could find a schematic for : building one? : The best possible device would be one that attached to either : a parallel or serial port. : Thanks for your help, : Tom Monk. This project can be found in the Circuit Cellar Project file, Volume One. It included a schematic and source code (assembler and C). It is designed to work off the expansion port. As to how fast it backs up... Well, you might time it with a calendar I would guess. Have fun. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: nathan@seldon.foundation.tricon.com (Number 6) Subject: Linux Mosaic doc server?? Idea Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 23:33:09 GMT I'm sure someone *must* be working on this... What about converting some of the docs from the doc project to HTML for browsing via Mosaic? Also, a Linux Introduction through Mosaic could be really interesting, with inlined images (of Linus himself, of course!), audio clips and hypertext links. Now, of course, this server would *have* to run on a Linux box connected to the net. As I happen to have one connected through ethernet to a 56Kbps leased line (yeah, I know, a bit slow), I would be willing to volunteer to start the project, though I'm afraid I couldn't devote all my resources to converting 100's of K of docs to HTML. But I could get it started and work on scanning/converting images and making at least some of the FAQs available. I know this is not the best place to post this...but I'm afraid of comp.os.linux.development! :) *********************************************************************** Nathan D. Lane, VP Triicon Systems. Lompoc, CA (805) 7331849 NaN != 6, 6 == 1. I am not a number, I am a free list! "Please, Captain, not in front of the Klingons" *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: al-b@minster.york.ac.uk Subject: Re: Bogomip Date: 16 Nov 1993 22:40:38 GMT In article , Mathias Koerber wrote: >In () H. Peter Anvin N9ITP (hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu) wrote: >| I have found (on three different system) that the BogoMips rating is >| within about a 0.03 range. That means 5% accuracy on the slowest >| system and 0.1% on the fastest one... pretty consistent IMHO. > >I have found that using SLS 1.03 I get 33.55, and with Slackware 1.04 I >get 33.22. Consistently. I get exactly those two figures on my DX/2-66, but always running the same kernel. 95% of the time it will report 33.55, occasionally it gives me 33.22 instead, but I don't really give a Bogo how many Mips my machine has! :-) Andrew. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: andrzej@bnr.ca (Andrzej Bieszczad) Subject: XFree 2.0 speed (was Re: Installing co-processor under Linux) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 03:39:00 GMT >>>>> On 9 Nov 93 14:13:45 -0600, volkerdi@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (Patrick J. Volkerding) said: PJV> I think the real problem is that the FPU is not rated for the clock speed PJV> it's being run at. I have an IIT 3C87-40DX and run it under Linux with PJV> XFree86 2.0 with no problems. Yes, it was the problem. I have installed 387/25 (Intel) and Linux runs happy. The funny thing is that although I have a 386/25 processor and motherboard, Norton's SI (under DOS/Windows) thinks that it is 386/20. However, Linux seems to disagree by rejecting a 20 MHz companion ;-) Another thing that I am surprised with is that on my system there is no visible difference in speed between XFree 2.0 and XFree 1.3 nor there is in the system with co-processor and without. There were some who reported considerable speed gains. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Andrzej Bieszczad >> WELCOME TO THE MACHINE - Pink Floyd << | | Carleton University, Systems & Comp. Eng., Ottawa, Canada K1S 5B6 | | Bell-Northern Research, Ltd., P.O. Box 3511 C, Ottawa, Canada K1Y 4H7 | | Phone: (CU) (613) 788-2600 ext. 5740 (BNR) (613) 763-2259 | | Email: andrzej@sce.carleton.ca andrzej@BNR.CA | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! The opinions expressed here are solely my own and do not reflect the ! ! opinions of Bell Northern Research, Northern Telecom or Carleton ! ! University. ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help From: bmatt@cc.gatech.edu (Bernard Matthews) Subject: Re: Linux Mosaic doc server?? Idea Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 04:14:06 GMT In article <1993Nov16.233311.29309@daneel.foundation.tricon.com>, Number 6 wrote: >I'm sure someone *must* be working on this... > >What about converting some of the docs from the doc project to HTML for >browsing via Mosaic? Also, a Linux Introduction through Mosaic could >be really interesting, with inlined images (of Linus himself, of >course!), audio clips and hypertext links. Now, of course, this server >would *have* to run on a Linux box connected to the net. As I happen : The Linux WWW Home Page is at http://topquark.cecer.army.mil/. The maintainer is Andy Burnett: burnett@topquark.cecer.army.mil. I'm sure he'd like to hear from you! ===== bernard ================================================================================ "Predestination was doomed from the start." (said by the minister who married me to my ex-wife) Bernard Matthews (bmatt@cc.gatech.edu) ================================================================================ ------------------------------ From: lho@shockley.ee.rochester.edu (Ling Cherd Ho) Subject: /etc/passwd Date: 17 Nov 1993 00:00:43 -0500 Can someone tell me how to execute a program which I put in the shell field of /etc/passwd with arguement? eg. i want to run screen -e tcsh as soon as someone login. Thanks ... cherd ------------------------------ From: morley@suncad.camosun.bc.ca (Mark Morley) Subject: Who sells STB 4COM cards? Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 22:03:49 GMT Sorry for this not-exactly-anything-to-do-with-Linux post... At some point in the recent past somebody posted the details about those STB 4COM cards (ie: where to order them from). I've lost my copy of that post - could someone please mail it to me (or repost it)? Thanks! Mark ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl From: david@ods.com (David Engel) Subject: Tcl/Tk Shared Libraries for Linux Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 05:47:15 GMT There has been a lot of interest in Tcl/Tk for Linux lately, including the desire for shared library versions. Well, my shared libraries are finally ready for public release. The following files have been uploaded to the /pub/Linux/Incoming directory on sunsite.unc.edu: tcl7.2-bin.tar.z tk3.5-bin.tar.z (includes addinput) tclX7.1a-B5-bin.tar.z blt1.0b2-bin.tar.z itcl1.3-bin.tar.z All libraries require libc-4.4.4 and those using X11 also require XFree86-2.0. Additionally, all tcl/tk applications must be linked with libieee.a to avoid problems with floating point exceptions. I'll upload the source and build scripts in a few days, after I've had a chance to document the build procedure. Please report any problems or suggestions to me. David -- David Engel Optical Data Systems, Inc. david@ods.com 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081 ------------------------------ From: tethys@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tethys) Subject: Using serial port terminals Date: 15 Nov 93 11:44:16 GMT Hi... I'm trying to hang an Amiga off my serial port as a dumb terminal, but I'm not having any luck. I've made up a lead with TX/RX crossed, GND and DTR wired straight through. I've set up the init state to spawn a getty to the serial port, and set the speed and terminal characteristics. The getty process is definitely running (it shows up on a `ps' command), and the Amiga has its terminal settings correct, but there is just nothing. I've tried it with a dedicated terminal instead of the Amiga, but still nothing. Any ideas? Tet PS. Replies by e-mail only please - I login by modem, and can't afford to read news :-( PPS. The serial port works fine when used for a mouse in X, so I assume that the problem is not with that. ------------------------------ From: kevins@aragorn.ori.org (Kevin Smolkowski) Subject: Re: New electronic magazine with Linus Torvalds interview Date: 17 Nov 1993 05:47:08 GMT I am trying to get my ghostview setup and working. I have ghostscript 2.6.1 running fine. I can read Meta page by page if I want. When I try to run ghostview 1.5 on Meta I get the following error message: Error: /undefined in Win35Dict Operand stack: Execution stack: %interp_exit --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: 511/547 0/20 5/200 Ghostscript: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 Help! ------------------------------ From: mib@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Michael I Bushnell) Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Hurd status and call for volunteers Date: 17 Nov 1993 06:20:41 GMT In article gboersma@sce.carleton.ca (Gerald Boersma) writes: One of the things missing from UNIX is a proper implementation of C-THREADS. Now, from what I have been able to figure out from the HURD documentation available, is that the process manager will be implemented as a separate server. However, it is a server, as all other HURD servers, that will be implemented in user space. So, if I wanted to add a proper implementation of threads to HURD, could I just write my own server in user space, advertise the port-numbero of the serve, and thus add functionality to the kernel for all users who want it? Correct me if I am off base here! Mach implements threads already, don't worry about it. The process server is only a bookkeeper and wouldn't do anything anyway. -- +1 617 623 3248 (H) | The soul of Jonathan was bound to the soul of David, +1 617 253 8568 (W) -+- and Jonathan loved him as his own soul. 1105 Broadway | Then Jonathan made a covenant with David Somerville, MA 02144 | because he loved him as his own soul. ------------------------------ From: kender@executor (System Overlord) Subject: Termcap entry for burrougs terminal Date: 17 Nov 1993 02:44:43 GMT Reply-To: kender@esu.edu Hiya alls - I'm using an old burroughs terminal hooked up to my roommate's linux box, and I need a termcap entry for it. This terminal has no name markings or anything like that on it, other than the word burroughs on the screen. It was the terminal that was used for their XE systems years and years ago. It has a weird status line thing, so lines get messed up. Also, another problem that I have with it, is that if a line is 80+ characters, an extra newline gets through in. I.e. if a line has exactly 80 characters in it, and extra line is thrown in between it and the next line, and this gets VERY annoying (esp. when people post with things more than 80 chars/line), any ideas on how to fix that? You all've been very helpful in the past, thanks in advance for this time! (email or post fine, i read news quite often, and check my mail a couple times a day). D -- |Dan Garcia,Kender@esu.edu|If privacy is outlawed then only outlaws will have | |#include | privacy - Phil Zimmerman, author of PGP | |Coram Deo|Death to Barney| This space for rent - mail ideas to me -- | | GCS/MU d--() -p+ c++(c+) l++ u+ e+(*) m++(*) s !n h f+ !g w+ t++(--) r+ !y | ------------------------------ From: kender@executor (System Overlord) Subject: Re: Termcap entry for burroughs (pt1500) terminal Date: 17 Nov 1993 03:01:42 GMT Reply-To: kender@esu.edu An addenum to that last post - it's a pt1500 terminal, sound familiar to anyone? D -- |Dan Garcia,Kender@esu.edu|If privacy is outlawed then only outlaws will have | |#include | privacy - Phil Zimmerman, author of PGP | |Coram Deo|Death to Barney| This space for rent - mail ideas to me -- | | GCS/MU d--() -p+ c++(c+) l++ u+ e+(*) m++(*) s !n h f+ !g w+ t++(--) r+ !y | ------------------------------ From: basile@soleil.serma.cea.fr (Basile STARYNKEVITCH) Subject: Re: Linux Mirror in UK/Europe Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 07:31:30 GMT Reply-To: basile@soleil.serma.cea.fr In article 8rE@west.uki.reuters.com, swilkins@west.uki.reuters.com (Steve Wilkinson) writes: ># >#Can anyone please tell me the best place to find a mirror of the >#Linux stuff (for 386) that is reasonably close to London. Also, >#I would appreciate recommendations as to the best version to use - >#I need something for daily Internet access, but it doesn't need >#to be rock solid (conversely, it doesn't need to fall over every day!). ># You could try ftp to ftp.ibp.fr:/pub/linux (an ftp server located in Paris, France, at universite Paris 6 Jussieu- Institut Blaise Pascal) which i believe mirrors linux on tsx-11.mit.edu and/or sunsite.unc.edu. You could also try ftp to nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux (an ftp server located in Finland). In particular, the great Linus Torvalds himself puts ALPHA kernel releases in /pub/OS/Linux/PEOPLE/Linus. Both ftp servers ftp.ibp.fr and nic.funet.fi also contains numerous other stuff, in particular GNU software distributions. ftp.ibp.fr:/pub/vsta also distribute VSTa, an interesting publicly available microkernel for PCs i386. I don't know about any British ftp server distributing Linux, but I believe there are some. --- Basile STARYNKEVITCH ---- Commissariat a l Energie Atomique DRN/DMT/SERMA * C.E. Saclay bat.470 * 91191 GIF/YVETTE CEDEX * France fax: (33) 1- 69.08.23.81; phone: (33) 1- 69.08.40.66 email: basile@soleil.serma.cea.fr; homephone: (33) 1- 46.65.45.53 Linuxing at home only N.B. Any opinions expressed here are solely mine, and not of my organization. N.B. Les opinions exprimees ici me sont personnelles et n engagent pas le CEA. ------------------------------ From: root@jacobs.mn.org (Mike Horwath) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development Subject: Re: BusLogic SCSI under Linux...compatible with AHA 1740 or not? Date: 17 Nov 1993 01:08:22 GMT A enhanced mode huh? Odd that the tech support didn't mention this to me, since it was exactly the thing I was looking for. Didn't matter to me if it was NOT aha1542 compat, since the OS it was destined for wasn't linux anyway. And the tech support said the drivers for NeXTStep and SCO were all just 1542 drivers with another name. All I know was that it flew pretty good. One of the faster controllers I have seen so far. -- Mike Horwath IRC: Drechsau BBS: Drechsau LIFE: lover root@jacobs.mn.org drechsau@jacobs.mn.org Jacob's Ladder 612-588-0201 UUCP, UseNet, Linux files, BBS ------------------------------ From: root@jacobs.mn.org (Mike Horwath) Subject: Re: how fast is linux? Date: 17 Nov 1993 01:17:13 GMT Zeyd M. Ben-Halim (zmbenhal@netcom.com) wrote: : In article <2c8efh$i29@Tut.MsState.Edu> mhp1@Isis.MsState.Edu (Michael H Price II) writes: : >fast/slow would it run on a 386DX-40 with 8megs RAM? : How did he measure it? What is the definition of fast/slow? My experience : is that Linux is one of THE fastest OS's around, certainly on a 386/486. : Zeyd M. Ben-Halim zmbenhal@netcom.com I ran an internet site for a while on a 386dx40 with no probs with performance. Since then, I have given the machine to my fiance and she runs linux on it now and wonders why dos is so slow :) It is kind of funny that she askes this question since he is pretty much the computer illiterate. -- Mike Horwath IRC: Drechsau BBS: Drechsau LIFE: lover root@jacobs.mn.org drechsau@jacobs.mn.org Jacob's Ladder 612-588-0201 UUCP, UseNet, Linux files, BBS ------------------------------ From: arsenio@mobix.uc.pt Subject: XFREE and OAK Video Board Date: 15 Nov 93 18:30:20 GMT I 've installed Linux and i am configuring XFREE, but i can't get my videoboard chipset right, i 've a OAK videoboard with 1 Mb of memory. Could someone tell me what chipset to use in the Xconfig file, email me any help. Thanx. arsenio@mobix.uc.pt Arsenio Reis ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.modems From: syelving@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Steve Yelvington) Subject: Re: 19,200 bps Digicom Connection 14.4+ upgrade Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 08:05:32 GMT In article , Wolfgang Henke wrote: >it's a SoftModem. >Today's phonelines and equipment do not allow simultaneous data and fax >transmission, so why would one need to have both algorithms simultaneously >in RAM when one can't use them at the same time? For the sake of convenience, so the proper routines don't have to be downloaded for each function. If I'm to believe Digicom's documentation, the problem has been solved for Windows, but if you don't run Windows -- or if you have an Atari or an Amiga or whatever and you want to use an external DSP modem -- you're out of luck. Thanks for making Ray Burr's smodemdl for Linux available on your ftp site, by the way. It solves the problem for outgoing data, although it doesn't do it for incoming FAX. (Not that I have any incoming FAX at home, you understand....) Unfortunately, smodemdl has to be run by the superuser, and I really do not want my daughter logging in as root so she can call the slow modem at the public library. One of the reasons I'm running Unix is to protect my hard drive from junior-high-school fingers! >If you don't like switching I recommend to use the DATA144 algorithm >which supports V.42 error correction and speeds from 1200 to 14,400 bps. >Digicom is also thinking about including the lower speed protocols in >a future revision of the DATA144B file. I'll try that one. I can also probably come up with a way to use a crontab entry belonging to root to reload the modem with v.42bis when dialing out to a uucp site that supports compression. But I hope Digicom comes up with a way to fit 1200->14.4K with compression into one module. I think I'm probably going to hang onto this modem. The newer version of the 144B file seems to have cured my uucico problems. And I'm too lazy to take it back and mail-order an AT&T. :-) -- Steve Yelvington, Marine on St. Croix, MN ------------------------------ From: iw3a502@rzaixclu1.uni-hamburg.de (T. Fokuhl) Subject: [Q] port to alpha-CPU Date: 17 Nov 1993 08:03:19 GMT Hi ppl, I wonder, whether there will be (or even is) a port of Linux to an alpha-CPU based board to increase speed dramatically ? Let me know Thanx Torsten (Email --> fokuhl@rrz.uni-hamburg.de) ------------------------------ From: ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro) Subject: Re: PPP Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 08:18:47 GMT In article <1993Nov16.232232.12307@kf8nh.wariat.org> bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >In article <1993Nov16.132002.14590@taylor.wyvern.com> mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis) writes: >>bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >>>There exists at present only one PPP implementation, and it's guaranteed to >>>NOT do what you want --- I am mentioning it only in case someone else brings >>>it up (which has happened before). >> >>Consider me bringing it up! Term does not work on SCO (won't compile, asked >>for help twice and was ignored). And PPP comes with ODT. Besides, PPP >>is fairly standard, and unlike term or slip it can be set up to be completely >>automagic and uucp compatible. > >Since my post brought the PPP folks out of the woodwork :-) you're much better >off checking with them... > >...in the meantime, if you're *really* desperate you can see about running >SLIP over a pty and attaching the other end of the pty in nos (you may need >a program to connect two ptys back-to-back, since both dip and nos expect to >see the slave end). Then attach a real serial port inside nos for PPP. The >result would look like you were using a PPP gateway machine, except that the >gateway would really be a separate process. (...talk about ugly hacks!) > Actually, dip -t and the kernel both seem to work okay with either end of a pty... What a blecherous hack tho... ;) ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via: Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Misc Digest ******************************