From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 04:13:51 EST Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #295 Linux-Misc Digest #295, Volume #1 Sat, 13 Nov 93 04:13:51 EST Contents: Dell Pentium Linux (Edwin Tisdale) Re: Wrong path for XFree86-2.0 on tsx-11.mit.edu (Helmut Geyer) *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson) Re: JANA question (Mark Buckaway) LGX list of problems #1.2 (Ian Parkin) Re: HELP - Linux counter moral issue (Lars Wirzenius) Does Linux run on Pentium and/or PCI bus machines? (Joseph G. Hennessey) Re: [ANNOUNCE] pvm3.2 on LINUX (Toh Guan Nge) Re: Linux spitting out an illegal IP number? (Philip Balister) Re: Gopher2.010 (John Paul Morrison) Re: BBS Packages (Harald Milz) vacation program ported? (Harald Milz) automatic ftp file retreiver (Scott Barker) Re: Hard Drives - Adding (Thang Vu) Q: mounts via msdos chunks ? (Hermann Dunkel) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: edwin@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Edwin Tisdale) Subject: Dell Pentium Linux Date: Mon, 08 Nov 93 20:37:59 GMT The memory bus in Dell "Standard" Pentium based computers is clocked at the same speed as the 60 MHz Pentium processor and moves 64 bits at a time between the processor and the 70 nanosecond Dynamic RAM. They use Intel's 32-bit 30 MHz PCI bus instead of the VESA Local Bus architecture used by AMBRA. They have a larger hard disk drive but only a 16-bit 30 MHz disk controller. You will wait at least SIX WEEKS for delivery from the day you place your order. I was able to get the information I needed from Dell immediately. Their Sales Representatives new much more about their product than their counterparts at AMBRA knew about theirs. Dell will install DOS 6.0 and Windows but NOT Linux. I called the toll free number (1-800-879-3355) for Dell Computers and got Sales Representative Mike Eckert at extension 67071. He quoted me a price of $3499 for their "Standard" Pentium based system which includes: * 60 MHz Intel Pentium processor * 16MB 70 ns system memory * 528MB IDE hard disk drive * 3.5" floppy disk drive * 16-bit disk controller * 15", 0.28mm dot pitch non-interlaced Super VGA color monitor * 1MB 1024x768 S3 video controller on the PCI bus * Desktop case * Keyboard and Microsoft mouse This system compares with the Gateway 2000 "Best Buy" Pentium based system. The difference in price can be accounted for in the extra 8MB system memory and the extra 100MB disk space. Bob Tisdale (edwin@cs.ucla.edu) ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,kral.general From: geyer@polyhymnia.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Helmut Geyer) Subject: Re: Wrong path for XFree86-2.0 on tsx-11.mit.edu Date: Fri, 12 Nov 93 11:04:09 GMT Georges Tomazi (tomazi@kralizec.zeta.org.au) wrote: :> Hello, :>There is a problem on tsx-11.mit.edu in the Xfree86-2.0 for Linux: :>220 tsx-11 FTP server (Version wu-2.1b(17) Mon Aug 30 20:50:36 EDT 1993) ready. :>[...] :>550 /pub/linux/packages/X11/Xfree86-2.0/xf86-kit-2.0.tar.gz: No such file OR directory. ^^^^^^^ :>This in the path described in the last "Linux XFree86-HOWTO" posted november 5. If you look at the HOWTO more closely, you will find: You can get the binary distribution of XFree86-2.0 for Linux via anonymous FTP from tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/packages/X11/XFree86-2.0 or sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/X11/XFree86-2.0 As unix is case-sensitive this path is not recognized. Helmut :>I'll try sunsite.unc.edu. :>This problem have been reported to ftp-linux@TSX-11.MIT.EDU :> Georges :>-- :> Georges A. Tomazi / Internet: tomazi@kralizec.zeta.org.au / And :> Sydney * Australia / tomazi@tctel.frmug.fr.net / God created :> +61 2 264 6892 / tomazi@smop-oz.frmug.fr.net / Unix... -- ============================================================================== Helmut Geyer geyer@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de ------------------------------ From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson) Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 11:03:02 GMT Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of which groups you should read and post to. Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux hierarchy. See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly. If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or from another Linux FTP site. It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce. In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!' The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place. Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not comp.os.linux.misc. Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions. Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in /pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq. Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration - should you post to comp.os.linux.misc. Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me ! -- Ian Jackson (urgent email: iwj10@phx.cam.ac.uk) 2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England; phone: +44 223 64238 ------------------------------ From: mark@datasoft.com (Mark Buckaway) Subject: Re: JANA question Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 00:14:55 GMT Russell Webb (rwebb@panix.com) wrote: : Great! Too bad they took my order in April, proceeded to ignore it until : July when they officially canceled it; they then checked in August to see : if I'd gotten any of the discs, and finally wouldn't respond via email or : phone. I received nothing, of course. : BTW, didn't Jay of Jana post from qucdn.queensu.ca? Why no name on your : post? Its good to see such strong unsolicited anonymous recommendations : of Jana. Yes...Jay did post using the above address. My records show the above address is Mr. Jana. Whilst you are attempting your CD's, I am attempting to collect for services rendered. JANA Publishing makes a good product. Jay presented me one of CD's himself. However, IMHO they need to replace their Customer Relations dept. Mark -- ============================================================================== Mark Buckaway | root@datasoft.com | DataSoft Communications DataSoft Communications | uunorth!datasoft!root | 62 Rock Fernway System Administrator | Voice: +1 416 756 4497 | Willowdale, ON M2J 4N5 ============================================================================== "UNIX and OS/2 are operating systems. Windows is a shell, and DOS is an boot virus" ============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: iparkin@betelgeuse.bt.co.uk (Ian Parkin) Subject: LGX list of problems #1.2 Reply-To: iparkin@betelgeuse.bt.co.uk Date: 12 Nov 93 12:30:20 GMT Hi, This is another diff file against #1 of my list of LGX bugs. The changes can be applied using the patch utility. Thanks to all those who emailed further problems. I shall add these to the list over the weekend and post the full version early next week. If anyone else is about to contribute some bugs could they please indicate which installation they are using. Thanks IAP ( twod@socrates.demon.co.uk and/or iparkin@lssec.bt.co.uk ) 108c108,110 < /usr/sound/samples" --- > /usr/sound/samples > /var/tmp > /var/tmp/.X11-unix" 125c127 < 2 :- Recompile mail using the sources provided specifying /tmp as --- > 2 :- Recompile smail using the sources provided specifying /tmp as 133d134 < [05] : chmod 4755 /usr/bin/login. 135d135 < 139,141c139,141 < [01] : /usr/lib/keytables - Both the UK and Finnish maps appear to be corrupt < in that they do not map all the keys correctly. < [ IAP : Installed Slackware loadkeys & uk.map and produced a map file --- > [01] : /usr/lib/keytables/uk.map - This appears to be wrong in that I cannot > use Alt-F to change the VC. > [ Installed Slackware loadkeys & uk.map and produced a map file 258,259c258 < [01] : emacs & vi do not use the cursor keys. < [ Set ${TERM} to vt100 ] --- > [01] : vi does not use the cursor keys - Set ${TERM} to vt100. 292,298d290 < [10] : When using the cd_dependent installation the CD-ROM is not seen by < either df or mount. < [ This is due to the installation script copying a special init file < to /etc which then 'fools' the two commands mentioned. It would be < possible to make the equivalent of boot/root disks on your minimal < partition in order to use the normal /etc/init and mount the CD-ROM as < a seperate fs. Possible, but impractical IMHO ] 300d291 < 308d298 < md85-epi@nada.kth.se 312a303,304 > > ------------------------------ From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) Subject: Re: HELP - Linux counter moral issue Date: 12 Nov 1993 13:46:19 +0200 hta@uninett.no (Harald T. Alvestrand) writes: > I have had some exchanges with a particular sitemaster that > wanted to register 500 Linux users at that site. Bad behaviour on the part of the sitemaster, unless he explicitly knows that all those 500 people actually do use Linux, and, much more importantly, _want_ to be counted and possibly put into a list of Linux users. I'd say the best thing is to not count any of those e-mails and send back an explanation to the sitemaster telling why. Encouraging others to do the same thing is a bad idea. Don't do it. -- Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi) Humans are unreliable, computers are non-deterministically reliable. ------------------------------ From: Joseph G. Hennessey Subject: Does Linux run on Pentium and/or PCI bus machines? Date: 12 Nov 1993 16:46:16 GMT Hi, I am trying to decide what system to get for linux and I wanted to know if Linux ran on Pentium and/or PCI bus machines. And if not, what kind of support would I have to add to the kernel. I know that an EISA/VESA system would work but I need the floating point performance of the Pentium and would rather not buy a new system in 6 months to a year the new 486dx3 will be pretty fast but not for floating point as compared to the Pentium. Thanks, Joseph G. Hennessey joe@bnnrc-srv.med.jhu.edu Disclaimer: I represent only myself not the Kennedy Krieger Institute. Joseph G. Hennessey joe@bnnrc-srv.med.jhu.edu ------------------------------ From: egntoh@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Toh Guan Nge) Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] pvm3.2 on LINUX Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 12:24:47 GMT Buffat Marc (buffat@mecaflu.ec-lyon.fr) wrote: : Here is my port of PVM 3.2.2 to LINUX, that allow programs to run in parallel : between linux boxes. I had to change some things in the original distribution : you will find it in sunsite.unc.edut in /pub/Linux/incoming. : I run it between two linux boxes with pl13, ggc 2.4.5 and libc 4.4.1 : Hope it will help you. : The file in sunsite has been moved in /pub/linux/Networks : pvm3.trz : pvm3.linux.readme : pvm3.linux.lsm does this version work with pvm on other hosts? i.e able to start slave pvmd on other hosts. -- Toh Guan Nge, School of EEE, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore Internet Email: egntoh@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg Bitnet Email: egntoh@ntuvax.bitnet ------------------------------ From: balister@maddog.async.vt.edu (Philip Balister) Subject: Re: Linux spitting out an illegal IP number? Date: 12 Nov 1993 13:09:27 GMT Reply-To: pbaliste@vt.edu Andrew R. Tefft (teffta@cs690-3.erie.ge.com) wrote: : In article 22130@news.uta.edu, cpatil@cse.uta.edu (Chetan D Patil) writes: : > So today our Sys admin comes and pulls off the ethernet connection : > from the back of the machine saying some monitor routines he was : > running traced an invalid IP number being spit out from this machine. : (I sent a more detailed reply to him via mail) I also sent him a reply regarding better netowrking softtware for people with some knowledge. He wrote back saying his sysadmin came back and said the problem still existed AFTER the mahine was turned off. Apparently he had a problem with the equipment. Philip -- Reply to: pbaliste@vt.edu Linux: The choice of a GNU generation! ------------------------------ From: jmorriso@rflab.ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) Subject: Re: Gopher2.010 Date: 12 Nov 1993 09:14:08 GMT In article <2bv24a$tru@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, Eric Kasten wrote: >John Paul Morrison (jmorriso@rflab.ee.ubc.ca) wrote: >: In article <2buhkn$h9g@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, >: Eric Kasten wrote: >: :Well, since I've had a number of mailings about my old gopher+1.2b4 patches, >: :and people being unable to find the source... >: : >: :FYI...Gopher2.010 compiles out of the box as received from >: :boombox.micro.umn.edu. Edit the config to your needs and type make. > >: HAH! Run gopher and type ^Z and watch it go berserk. I hate Linux's >: curses. > >Yep, it does that, but I haven't run into a gopher client that's >perfect yet. ^C will cancel the ^Z nonsense - it would be nice >if ^Z would do a suspend, however. In 2b4 there were many other I did a quick quick kludge to stop it (like I've had to do for talk and other stupid curses programs) >functional problems (like capfiles being disfunctional even when >you used the compiler directive to compile them in). > >There are some people out there somewhere who've compiled some >of this stuff using ncurses. I'd be kind of interested in >seeing some of these conversions. Any takers? I don't know what's needed for ncurses. It's not enough to just change the Makefile to -lncurses. here's an ugly kludge: --- gopher2.010.old/gopher/CURcurses.c Wed Nov 3 18:06:50 1993 +++ gopher2.010/gopher/CURcurses.c Thu Nov 11 01:10:00 1993 @@ -198,7 +198,7 @@ int spawn_DCLprocess(); int DCLspawn_exception(); #endif /* VMS */ - +void crud_sig(); /* * Initialize data space for various screen information @@ -219,7 +219,7 @@ cur->Highlightoff = STRnew(); cur->inCurses = FALSE; - cur->sigtstp = SIG_ERR; + cur->sigtstp = SIG_DFL; cur->sigwinch = SIG_ERR; CURinit(cur); @@ -279,12 +279,23 @@ CURsetHighon(cur, ""); CURsetHighoff(cur, ""); } + signal(SIGCONT, crud_sig); + signal(SIGTSTP, SIG_DFL); CURsetScreen(cur,initscr()); #endif cur->inCurses = FALSE; } +void crud_sig (int foobar) +{ + (void) foobar; + noecho(); + crmode(); + wrefresh(curscr); + signal(SIGCONT, crud_sig); +} + /* * Given a properly "CURnew" cursesobj, initialize the screen.. @@ -316,7 +327,7 @@ #endif #ifndef VMS if (cur->sigtstp != SIG_ERR) - signal(SIGTSTP, cur->sigtstp); + signal(SIGTSTP, SIG_DFL ); #endif } > >-- >Eric Kasten >Michigan State University >tigger@tigger.cl.msu.edu >My opinions, without a doubt, are all mine. -- ___________________________________________________________________________ John Paul Morrison Eliminate prosperity: University of British Columbia, Canada - tax the prosperous Electrical Engineering Eliminate poverty: jmorriso@rflab.ee.ubc.ca VE7JPM - tax the poor Day 18 of Canada held hostage: the socialist Liberal tax & spend tyranny ------------------------------ From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz) Subject: Re: BBS Packages Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 08:30:06 GMT Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de Randy Just (rjust@crl.com) wrote: : > At one time I saw a list of BBS packages available for LINUX and their : > site locations. Does anyone still have this information or alternatively : > can someone point me in the right direction? I am looking for non-script : > type packages. Thanks. There's a bunch in sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/system/BBS. Ciao, hm -- Harald Milz (hm@seneca.ix.de) ------------------------------ From: hm@seneca.ix.de (Harald Milz) Subject: vacation program ported? Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 08:32:52 GMT Reply-To: hm@seneca.ix.de Hi Linuxers, I couldn't find a port of the vacation program to Linux on sunsite or tsx-11. Is anyone working on it? Is there a clone? vacation is the utility answering mail when you're absent, and it comes with SunOS and AIX 3.2.4 at least. Thanks mucho in advance. Ciao, hm -- Harald Milz (hm@seneca.ix.de) ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: alt.sources.wanted,comp.sources.wanted From: barker@enel.ucalgary.ca (Scott Barker) Subject: automatic ftp file retreiver Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 18:22:24 GMT I'm looking for a program which can automagically retreive new files from an ftp site and delete old files from the current directories if they no longer exist at the ftp site. Something like a mirror program, but which doesn't run periodically. I've tried the autoftp Bourne shell script, but it doesn't seem to work. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. -- Scott Barker barker@enel.ucalgary.ca "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire ------------------------------ From: thang@slipknot.mit.edu (Thang Vu) Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: Hard Drives - Adding Date: 13 Nov 93 07:15:02 GMT I think you should stick with the SCSI interface (option 3, get a decent SCSI card). The IDE interface is good only for DOS and Windows. For advanced operating systems, SCSI is the choice. ------------------------------ From: dunkel@yoda.cul-ipn.uni-kiel.de (Hermann Dunkel) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development Subject: Q: mounts via msdos chunks ? Date: 12 Nov 93 18:05:07 GMT My goal is to mount large files from the dos partition as a filesystem on the linux side. Then it could be possible to have some of these smart all-on-one boot floppies together with a special installation procedure, that installs additional disks on these mounts. So it would be possible to give a big LINUX demo (incl. X), without running any fdisk! It could work like this: the dos partition is mounted as /dos and has 50 MB free. An 'empty' file with 40 MB is created as /dos/chunk1 mount -t fileMount /dos/chunk1 /myDir All following actions in /myDir would access blocks within the XX MB chunk. Which gives a full filesystem (longnames etc.) which resides physically on the dos disk space. I once made a test with the 'loop'? filesytem which allows this kind of mounts even with encryption. But as far as I remember it failed for files which were on a dos mount. I think the mount was dead waiting for some io stuff. Finally my question: Did someone else think in this direction ? Has anyone more experience with mounts from files (the 'loop?' fs) ? Is there any reason that this kind of mount/demo is NOT possible ? regards, HeDu -- ////|\\\\ \\\\\\ Hermann Dunkel O O ////// IPN Uni Kiel, Germany | \\\\\\ Tel: +49 431 / 880 3144 \___/ ////// E-mail: dunkel@cul-ipn.uni-kiel.de \_/ \\\\\\ ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via: Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Misc Digest ******************************