From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Wed, 18 Aug 93 20:13:16 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #17 Linux-Misc Digest #17, Volume #1 Wed, 18 Aug 93 20:13:16 EDT Contents: Re: SLS update: 99p12 and lib 4.4.2 (David Engel) Re: Linux Satellites (Cheapest Linux Hardware Configuration) (Ralph Doncaster) Re: mailsig in elm and tin (Dan Garcia - SRC) Re: interesting proposition (Brian Ullmark) Re: lilo - cylinder too big!?! (Harald Milz) Re: term and txconn (J. M. O'Donnell) 0.99pl12: ext2fs unmount of root is no longer successful (Peter Mutsaers) bot (mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu) Reboot problem tied to shadow BIOS (Mahatma Kane-Jeeves) Linux on ACMA 486 (Ronald Ohst) Re: INN1.4 under Linux - WOW !!!!!! (Piercarlo Grandi) Re: interesting proposition (Jonathan Magid) Re: interesting proposition (K J MacDonald) Re: interesting proposition (Malcolm Ray) Re: Starting to program in X (Philip Brown) How do I restrict rsh from other machines? (tching@target.uucp (Tracy Ching )) Re: Engineering Applications (Bryson Lee) SLS 103 contents confusion & list. (David Lesher) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david@ods.com (David Engel) Subject: Re: SLS update: 99p12 and lib 4.4.2 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 16:43:33 GMT Peter MacDonald (sanjuan!pmacdona@sol.UVic.CA) wrote: : New features of this upgrade include: : - Linux 99p12 : - libc 4.4.2 and libg++ 2.4 upgrade : The libs had to be updated, just to allow networking (routing : actually) to work. They are alpha, and will be updated again : once Hlu officially releases them. New versions of boot disks : will be showing up in the next few days. No, the libs didn't have to be updated. You should have waited for them to be released before switching to the new kernel. : Note also that the copyright notice has been clarified in the : NOTICE to explain that the installation scripts (but very : little else) in SLS are copyright Softlanding Software. : Using them to roll your own distribution, tearing off the : SLS name, and putting in your own, is not permitted. These : scripts "are" SLS, and any distribution built using them : must be called thus. Doing otherwise constitutes taking : credit for the work of others. Since Slackware has made this mistake, : it is currently frozen until it develops it's own installation : and administration system. Sigh, one more reason to prefer MCC. David -- David Engel Optical Data Systems, Inc. david@ods.com 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081 ------------------------------ From: rdoncast@bcoc61.on.bell.ca (Ralph Doncaster) Subject: Re: Linux Satellites (Cheapest Linux Hardware Configuration) Reply-To: rdoncast@yo_dud Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 14:32:38 GMT In article <1993Aug17.010713.3425@unlv.edu> maniac@unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger) writes: In article <24ja52$nmc@indigo.imp.ch> ilg@imp.ch (Philippe Steindl) writes: >Hello, > >sounds alright, but don't forget that these cheapo ethernet cards are >TwistedPair and not Thinwire (am I wrong?). Twistedpair needs a central >unit collecting all the client wires .. and these units are expensive. Actually, ThinWire NICs run about $5-$20 less than 10BaseT, depending on the manufacturer. Though you are right about the hubs, 8 port hubs usually go for $200 wholesale, and that is an econo-hub. You don't need a hub if you connect just 2 machines by 10BaseT, make a cable crossing the tx and rx pairs and you're all set (that's what I did, and it works fine so far). -Ralph -- Ralph Doncaster, computer consultant Bell Sygma Telecomm Solutions home email: ralph@dci.pinetree.org ph:(613)781-6774 fax:781-7677 " my other computer is a Cray-3 " email: rdoncast@on.bell.ca ------------------------------ From: dgarcia@cs.uml.edu (Dan Garcia - SRC) Subject: Re: mailsig in elm and tin Date: 18 Aug 1993 16:24:08 GMT In article <1993Aug16.063059.14059@surfcty.surfcty.com> chris@surfcty.surfcty.com (Chris D. Johnston) writes: >OK, I hope that this is the (sortof) right group to post this to. >Where do I place my .signature file for tin and elm? > >I read the man pages and the README for tin. I must be really >whacked if someone says rtfm to me on this one. (I have not >read any nutshell books on this though...). Sorry guy, but this is an rtfm, at the very least, it is for tin. From the tin manpage: : SIGNATURES : Tin will recognize a signature in either $HOME/.signature or $HOME/.Sig. : If $HOME/.signature exists, then the signature will be pulled into the : editor for mail commands. A signature in $HOME/.signature will not be : pulled into the editor for posting commands since inews will append the : signature itself. : : A signature in $HOME/.Sig will be pulled into the editor for both : posting and mailing commands. Also, this really isn't the right newsgroup for this posting. You would probably want something like comp.unix.questions, since this is a unix (usenet?) related question, and not a linux related question. D -- Daniel Garcia |All views here are COMPLETELY my|Remeber: 50% of all doctors Kender@super.org|own (who else would want them?),| gradutated in the bottom kender@esu.edu |not necessarily those of Uml | half of their class! GCS/MU d* -p+ c++ l++ m++ s+/ !g w++ t+ r+ !x |Power to the people: Linux... ------------------------------ From: brian@key.amdahl.com (Brian Ullmark) Subject: Re: interesting proposition Date: 18 Aug 1993 09:45:34 -0700 How about having a set format describing the hardware they're using also. This would probably entail multiple entries but it would be nice to see a list of people with hardware similar to yours to ask questions from. Brian -- Brian A. Ullmark - Staff Engineer Phone: (510) 623-5090 Amdahl Corporation - Open Systems FAX: (510) 770-0493 46525 Landing Parkway M/S 580 Email: brian@key.amdahl.com Fremont, CA 94538 CompuServe: 70023,1477 ------------------------------ From: hm@opus40 (Harald Milz) Subject: Re: lilo - cylinder too big!?! Reply-To: hm@ix.de Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 13:38:40 GMT In article , Neal Becker (neal@ctd.comsat.com) wrote: : > I have been using lilo for some time on my ESDI drives with fine : > results. But this morning when I tried to install the latest kernel : > version lilo failed, complaining about "cylinder number too big > : > 1023". : > Is there a fix for this? No. LILO must assume that you place your kernel below the damned 1024-cyl- boundary, the reason being that the ol' PC when booting cannot access higher cylinders. So when you try to make a new-built kernel known to LILO, it will place the information about the absolute location of the kernel somewhere on the disk (gurus: where is that? On track 0 of head 0?). LILO is intellifgent enough to give you a decent warning before it lets you try to boot without success. Good luck! -- Harald Milz phone +49 (511) 53 52-377 iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine fax +49 (511) 53 52-361 Helstorfer Str. 7, D-30625 Hannover office: hm@ix.de P.O. Box 61 04 07, D-30604 Hannover private: hm@seneca.ix.de ------------------------------ From: odonnell@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (J. M. O'Donnell) Subject: Re: term and txconn Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 17:53:00 GMT In article <141602@netnews.upenn.edu>, hseung@anat3d2.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung) writes... >odonnell@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (J. M. O'Donnell) writes: >>>I believe the original poster wants to fire up a X application from >>>his Linux box and display it on someone else's display on the network. >>>Actually, this is an interesting concept. >> >>It is the whole concept of putting the machine address in the display name. >>It is one of the main features of X! > >Well, I didn't realize it was possible for me to fire up an >application from my home machine and display it over the phone line, >that's all. That's the beauty of term and txconn remote machine can also display on your home machine. > >Hyunsuk Seung >hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux From: muts@compi.hobby.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Subject: 0.99pl12: ext2fs unmount of root is no longer successful Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 22:18:54 GMT Hello, I just upgraded to 0.99pl12 from pl10. Now, when I reboot, my root filesystem (ext2fs) is no longer clean and is checked each time. In pl10 this was not the case. I use a shutdown which unmounts root filesystem. My other (ext2fs) partition is still clean. Has something changed in this respect? -- _______________________________________________________________ Peter Mutsaers, Bunnik (Ut), the Netherlands. Disclaimer: This reflects the official opinions of my employer. ------------------------------ From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu Subject: bot Date: 18 Aug 93 14:06:07 EDT I just wanted to post a message of appreciated to the authors of the "getting started" manual for linux. It is a well written, first-class piece of work. You people should be very proud. Best regards, Christopher Mauritz ------------------------------ From: mkj@world.std.com (Mahatma Kane-Jeeves) Subject: Reboot problem tied to shadow BIOS Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 18:11:30 GMT Just a quick note about a peculiarity: I've run Linux SLS 1.01 and now 1.03, using kernels pl 9, 10 and now 12. In all cases I've had a problem with re-booting; "shutdown -r" sends the right signals to all the processes, but then instead of re-booting, it hangs. The other night, for no known reason, I decided to try it with BIOS shadowing turned OFF, and guess what? That cured the problem! My Linux now reboots normally. But of course I'll want to re-enable shadowing sooner or later -- it makes a big difference in speed. I'm using a Gateway 2000 386/33 with Phoenix BIOS. Anybody have any insights into what's going on here? I'd be interested to know. --- mkj ------------------------------ From: ohst@cogsci.ucsd.edu (Ronald Ohst) Subject: Linux on ACMA 486 Date: 18 Aug 1993 18:34:18 GMT Has anyone successfully run linux on an ACMA 486? Email responses preferred. Thanks. Ron Ohst rohst@ucsd.edu Cognitive Science Department University of California, San Diego Newsgroups: comp.linux.misc Subject: Linux on ACMA 486 Summary: Followup-To: Distribution: inet Organization: University of California, San Diego Keywords: Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Linux on ACMA 486 Summary: Followup-To: Distribution: inet Organization: University of California, San Diego Keywords: Has anyone successfully run linux on an ACMA 486? Email responses preferred. Thanks. Ron Ohst rohst@ucsd.edu Cognitive Science Department University of California, San Diego Ron Ohst rohst@ucsd.edu, (619) 534-2440 University of California, San Diego Department of Cognitive Science ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: news.software.nntp From: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Subject: Re: INN1.4 under Linux - WOW !!!!!! Reply-To: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 17:50:10 GMT >>> On 18 Aug 1993 08:31:10 -0400, rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz) said: > I tried -DMMAP, changed READ to MMAP the other day, compiled and > installed aeverything and it totally killed my system. Rich> Apparently Linux mmap() doesn't work right now. The official word from Linus Torvalds is that mmap works *only in COW or read only mode* (RW private, RO shared). You cannot use it to share files in read write mode. A lot of sw uses mmap() in ro or COW mapping mode, e.g. shared libraries. Unfortunately Linus Torvalds has not put in any error code if it is used in RW shared mode... Eventually he shall add the bits needed to support it. Well, we can just wait for the next release (0.99999PL207 perhaps? :->). ------------------------------ From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid) Subject: Re: interesting proposition Date: 18 Aug 1993 18:52:41 GMT In article <1993Aug18.012944.16682@n5ial.mythical.com> jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham) writes: >>I don't think a single person can achieve such a work, >>I hope we can find enough volunteers to make it possible.. > >Yeah, it would be a massive amount of information to deal with, to say >the least. But I've got an idea that I think might make it a lot easier >to manage! I do not, however, have any thoughts on how to go about coding >this (databases and I don't get along---I can write datacomm stuff anytime, >protocols included, but databases?...forget it!). I suspect, however, that >there are existing apps that could be modified (or perhaps just configured?) >to do this. > >Anyways, here's the idea. We setup something similar to (or perhaps as a >part of) listserv sites. You send e-mail to the server, in a certain >format, and make additions, changes, deletions, info requests, etc., all >via e-mail. > this is exactly the idea I had- I've almost completed the e-mail system in my (un-propious) free time since I saw the idea posted a few days ago. It will be automagic and hopefully quite nifty. :) I am planning on making it available for gopher browsing and WAIS searching... there will probably an announcement on how to use it at the beginning of next week. cheers, jem. -- jem@sunsite.unc.edu\/sunSITE admin ------------------------------ From: kenny@festival.ed.ac.uk (K J MacDonald) Subject: Re: interesting proposition Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 17:53:27 GMT Allen M. Ashley (ashley@cco.caltech.edu) wrote: : Someone who wants to implement the user map idea should set up : an email address to process the responses. Every response should start : with the zip code of the responder, and all responses should be indexed : on the zip code. Perhaps such a beast should be kept international. ZIP codes are only valid in the US. What would Linus's ZIP code be, eh ? Kenny. -- ============================================================================== Kenneth MacDonald E-mail: kenny@ed Dept. of Geology & Geophysics "Allow me to introduce myself, Major Dennis University of Edinburgh Bloodnok, International Christmas Pudding ------------------------------ From: malcolmr@westminster.ac.uk (Malcolm Ray) Subject: Re: interesting proposition Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 19:43:52 GMT In article <24tjaaINNg19@gap.caltech.edu> ashley@cco.caltech.edu (Allen M. Ashley) writes: >Someone who wants to implement the user map idea should set up >an email address to process the responses. Every response should start >with the zip code of the responder, and all responses should be indexed >on the zip code. > Sigh. Sounds of grating teeth from Linux users outside North America... How about using latitude and longitude? It works for uucp mapping, and anyone who can use Linux can use an atlas. Regards, Malcolm (currently at 0 deg. 8' W, 51 deg. 31' N, and heading NW in 5 mins) -- University of Westminster Information Resource Services M.G.Ray@westminster.ac.uk +44 71 911 5000 ------------------------------ From: philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown) Subject: Re: Starting to program in X Date: 18 Aug 1993 20:35:04 GMT In <24t8bg$e84@c3po.jvnc.net> trockij@Cyanamid.COM (Jim Trocki) writes: >I have some Windows and GEM programming experience, so I don't anticipate any >problems migrating over to X, unless I am mislead by my observations... Ahahaa. Yes. you are mislead by your observations. You will most likely learn roughly how to program in X, write a few programs, then have real X programmers grinding their teeth wondering why you're programming like you're doing MS-WIndoze :-) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't move, Penelope.. I want to remember you just the way you are now. Puzzled." philb@cats.ucsc.edu philb@soda.berkeley.edu ------------------------------ From: tching@target.uucp (Tracy Ching ) Subject: How do I restrict rsh from other machines? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 22:15:51 GMT I have the Slackware version of Linux (.99pl11) with NET-2. How do I restrict people from rshell'ing into my machine? 1) I know about the /etc/hosts.equiv file but it doesn't restrict other machines when I just have the name of one host in it. 2) Any helpful hints? tching@water.ca.gov ------------------------------ From: blee@tim (Bryson Lee) Subject: Re: Engineering Applications Reply-To: blee@tim.dfrf.nasa.gov Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 23:19:38 GMT Troy A. Baer (tabaer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : In article <24r2lf$bmj@zip.eecs.umich.edu> ayman@eecs.umich.edu (Ayman Kayssi) writes: : >There's no comp.os.linux.apps, so I'll post here: : >What engineering/math/science applications are available for Linux? : >I'm interested in electrical engineering and science software. : Well, there's a couple MatLab clones (Rlab and something else), a simple The "something else" is called Octave, latest version I know about is 0.74. It's a Matlab-clone with a gnuplot interface for graphing. The core and interface are c++, and the numerical functionality is provided by f2c'd Netlib routines. The PD packages implemented are blas, dassl, fftpack, fsqp, lapack, linpack, minpack, odepack, quadpack, ranlib, and villad. In addition, there are hooks for the npsol and qpsol packages, if your site is licensed for them. I've got the packages running on my R4000 Indigo at work, as well as my Linux box at home. It seems very complete, and should be script-file compatible with Matlab. (The comment character is different, but the syntax is the same). I've corresponded briefly with the author about an extension I'm working on, and he was very helpful with info about the internals and calling structure (now if I can just figure out how this c++ stuff works...). Anyway, I'm very impressed with the package, particularly when you compare its cost with that of Matlab 4.1 for a workstation. Source and precompiled binaries for i486-linux, i486-svr4, m68k-next-bsd, mips-dec-ultrix4.2, rs6000-ibm-aix3.2, and sparc-sun-sunos4.1.2 are available at ftp.che.utexas.edu (128.83.162.79) in /pub/octave Linux binaries are also on sunsite.unc.edu in /pub/Linux/apps/math Good luck, Bryson -- ============================================================================== Bryson Lee, 1Lt, USAF Mail: blee@tim.dfrf.nasa.gov Flight Controls Engineer Voice: (805) 258-3123 ANY OPINIONS EXPRESSED HEREIN ARE MY OWN, AND DO NOT REFLECT THE POLICIES OR POSITIONS OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, OR THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher) Subject: SLS 103 contents confusion & list. Date: 19 Aug 1993 00:01:24 GMT Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher) I downloaded SLS 103, but I've made myself a mess... You see, I ftp'ed SLS.tar, but later went back to get one or two disks that were damaged in subsequent zmodemimg. (that's a separate thread..) I checked the changelog, but even so, I ended up missing 'make'. I went back to tsx-11 & looked and found an different list of contents on that disk ;-{ Now, I'm not sure what else I may be short.... To easily straighten out this mess, is there ONE list of what is where on SLS103? With that, I could figure out what I am missing... -- A host is a host from coast to coast..wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu & no one will talk to a host that's close............(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via: Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Misc Digest ******************************