From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 11:26:34 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #142 Linux-Misc Digest #142, Volume #1 Mon, 20 Sep 93 11:26:34 EDT Contents: Re: Windows Pop Quiz Re: NT versus Linux (Per Abrahamsen) Re: ANNOUNCE: TAMU.99p12 Source and Binary (Bill Heiser) Re: Slackware bootdisk (1.0.3) & NMI interrupt (Philip Balister) Help! Error message opening the default font at startx (Alex Gavrilov) new Linux CD-ROM (was Re: JANA - anyone heard from them recently ?) (Alex Freed) [Crosspost] P6 Rumors? (Rick) Re: What are jiffies? (Donald J. Becker) Re: SCSI Timeouts (Alan Peterson) Re: Tandberg SCSI tape drives (Peter Bechtold) Re: how many Linux installs? (Logan Bryant) linux on PCI boards ... (Markus Berndt) Re: Memory LEAKING!*=--.._ (Michael Chapman K8/EIS1. Tel. 1662) Re: Spanish Keyboard (Julio Sanchez) *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.04) (Ian Jackson) Information on Gigabyte Eisa/VL motherboard ??? (Hans Guldager Knudsen) [Solved] SLS 1.03 and lpr problems (Frerk Meyer) Re: SCSI Timeouts (Eric Youngdale) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.religion.emacs From: abraham@research.att.com (Per Abrahamsen) Subject: Re: Windows Pop Quiz Re: NT versus Linux Date: 19 Sep 1993 20:56:37 GMT >>>>> "Thomas" == thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle) writes: Thomas> I still like the following definition of an operating system: Thomas> "the layer of software between the hardware and the applications" >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Newman writes: Andy> Then there is the definition, Andy> "the things that didn't fit into the language" I prefer "whatever you left out of your editor" Note the followup-to line. ------------------------------ From: bill@bhhome.ci.net (Bill Heiser) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: TAMU.99p12 Source and Binary Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 18:39:56 GMT In article <27ckgk$obi@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> drs0587@saturn.tamu.edu writes: > >As for the others, while there are text based equivalents in TAMU.99p12, >I agree completely that the X versions need to be included. All I can >say now is stay tuned, as these (and my other favorites, such as x3179, >ftptool, calentool ...) are not far off as package updates. Please post an ANNOUNCEment when these are available. I, for one, will be glad to see them! Thanks! -- Bill Heiser bill@bhhome.ci.net -or- heiser@world.std.com ------------------------------ From: balister@maddog (Philip Balister) Subject: Re: Slackware bootdisk (1.0.3) & NMI interrupt Date: 19 Sep 1993 22:21:54 GMT Reply-To: pbaliste@vt.edu Peter Dalg}rd (kubipdal@uts.uni-c.dk) wrote: : Hi, : I'm just about ready to get my feet wet with this Linux stuff. : This friday I made a bootdisk and tried to boot one of the : computer at work with it (a 486 dx2/66). Just snooped around : without doing anything significant. Looked great, but I was : a bit disturbed by some messages saying something like 'NMI : interrupt -- I'm dazed but continuing anyway'. What is this? : Signature of less than adequate hardware or a harmless quirk : in the Slackware bootdisk? Probably less than adequate hardware. NMI is used to signal parity or other memory problems. I used to have a cheap ET4000 card at work that caused them. It's not really clear what the kernel should do when it gets one, thus the message. Philip -- Reply to: pbaliste@vt.edu Linux: The choice of a GNU generation! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 17:36:58 CDT From: Alex Gavrilov Subject: Help! Error message opening the default font at startx It's been a week scince I have installed Linux on my Dell486 -33, 4M RAM,Cirrus Logic 5424, and am stll having troubles getting my X up and running. I have con figured my Xconfig and such - everything seems to be right, and when I type sta rtx my X get to the point when I got "xclock" on the screen and the next "Xwind ow" is coming up. This is where I get stock. The error message that I am gettin g after I kill my server is "PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font f ile Roman_MXIO: fatal IO error 32 (broken pipe) on X server" :0.0 after 267 req uests (267 known processed) with 8 events remaining.".If anyone has a clue, p lease e-mail me at gavrilov@bert.eecs.uic.edu or U49968@uicvm.cc.uic.edu. ------------------------------ From: freed@europa.orion.adobe.com (Alex Freed) Subject: new Linux CD-ROM (was Re: JANA - anyone heard from them recently ?) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 00:18:39 GMT I recommend everybody to check out the new Linux CDROM from Trans-Ameritech (sp?). They DO answer email, phone and ship the same day. If you live in bay area, they are in Santa Clara. Their version has 3 distributions (2 of SLS and 1 slackware) plus 2 uncompressed versions plus 386BSD 0.1 and plenty of DOS/Windos stuff. And all that for $30 - what a deal! Their email is roman@trans-ameritech.com and phone is (408) 727-3883. -Alex. -- _______________________________________________________ | -Alex Freed (The opinions expressed are my own. | | However everyone is entitled to them.) | | freed%adobe.com@uucp-gw-1.pa.dec.com | ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: pclink@qus102.qld.tne.oz.au (Rick) Subject: [Crosspost] P6 Rumors? Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 00:23:29 GMT I thought Linuxers might be interested in this (tongue-in-cheek) post on comp.sys.intel - note the OS that the P6 will be running: > There is a wild rumor that the 686 will be a multiprocessor chip with > two or four P5 processor cores with a 1mb shared consistent cache between them. > Able to run at 66Mhtz externel, but clock-doubled internal to 133Mhtz, > it will peak at 532 integer MIPS. Expected pricing will be $200 > for the 2-CPU unit, and $400 for the 4-MUP chip. > A secret lab at Microsoft has a prototype board with ObjectNT/3 running on it. Nah, it's a born-again risc: Intel has dropped the following opcodes: aaa,aad,aam,aas,bound,daa,das,enter,lea,leave and implemented the i960 instruction set in their place. oh, yeah, it also dynamically translates any x86 code it executes to native i960. Microsoft paid Linus Torvalds to port Linux to it, which will be their only OS offering, since they're selling Systems division to IBM for rights to OfficeVision, which Bill has always admired for its purity of vision. sincerely, mark hahn. -- this space intentionally left non-blank. hahn@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu ------------------------------ From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker) Subject: Re: What are jiffies? Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 00:33:01 GMT In article , Michael K. Johnson wrote: > >In article <2755lq$ifb@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> DAHMS@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Heribert Dahms) writes: > Gathering the necessary information for writing a 3c507 driver, > I found contradicting info about the "jiffies", needed for timouts, > in the source tree (of 0.99.10, if that matters): > To use this, first call autoirq_setup(timeout). TIMEOUT is how many > 'jiffies' (1/18 sec.) to detect other devices that have active IRQ lines, > >The first is right. I am assuming that the auto_irq.c stuff comes >from dos, where one timer tick is about 1/18 of a second. jiffies is >updated in sched.c at every timer tick, in do_timer(), and the timer >is programmed for 1/100 second intervals. Well, indirectly it probably came from DOS. The auto_irq.c documentation came from my brain-damage. I wrote a comment that was just-plain-wrong and never went back to check it. -- Donald Becker becker@super.org IDA Supercomputing Research Center 17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 20715 301-805-7482 ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development From: apeterso@badlands.NoDak.edu (Alan Peterson) Subject: Re: SCSI Timeouts Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 05:35:37 GMT Bill Mitchell (mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com) wrote: : in comp.os.linux.misc, c@royle.org (Chris Royle) said: : >I have had a 280 MB SCSI II Seagate Hard Disc Drive running off my : >Adaptek 1540B SCSI controller under Linux for ages with no problems at : >all so far. : > : >I have now added a Sankyo CP150SE Tape streamer to the chain, and this : >seems to be causing timeouts during my backing up with tar. (That is, : > : >[problems description deleted] : >Anyone got any ideas ? : > : I've been having similar problems since I added a Tandberg SCSI tape to : my system, have posted about them previously, and just posted about them : again in c.o.l.development in reaction to a related posting I saw there. I, too, am seeing timeouts with two SCSI disks and a Tandberg 3600 tape drive. All are internal with the Tandberg at the end of the chain and terminated. Unfortunately, I'm also seeing 'in2000_abort' with the alpha version of the IN-2000 driver and the partition table on the second 330 meg drive (where linux lives) is trashed. I can't even do an fdisk write without hanging the system. Alan Peterson apeterso@plains.nodak.edu ------------------------------ From: peter@fns.greenie.muc.de (Peter Bechtold) Subject: Re: Tandberg SCSI tape drives Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 00:37:20 GMT vohwi-d@acsu.buffalo.edu (David A. Vohwinkel) writes: >I am going to be getting a Tandberg SCSI tape drive that is offered from >John Jaskolski on the net. I was wondering what different software can be >used with them and what other people think about the drives. ie how they >perform under Linux. I'm using a TANDBERG TDC 3820 SCSI tape drive (150-525 MB) connected to a AH1542B. This tape drive is just great, very fast, not very noisy ... BUT, using the 99PL12 kernel, I'm having the following problem: When writing a tape, it doesn't stream, i.e. the tape drive is winding back and forth after writing one block (or maybe after writing the buffer to the tape - 256k). I used to have this problem a while ago with some 98.* kernels. With 99p9, it worked perfectly well after setting the block-size and density to the default values (mt setblk 512 and mt setdensity 0), even though the TDC 3820 uses 1024b-blocks for 525MB-Tapes. But even though, I think it's a very good tape drive -- a lot of friends of mine are using without any problems (not running Linux ...) So be warned :-( If anyone has a hint how to fix this, drop me a mail ... peter BTW, the blacklist-entry in linux/kernel/blk_drv/scsi/scsi.c of the TANDBERG TDC 3600 when using LUN !=0 doesn't help since my tape is using LUN 0. > thanks >-- >David A Vohwinkel >vohwi-d@acsu.buffalo.edu >============================================================================= -- Peter Bechtold -- peter@fns.greenie.muc.de Phone/Fax +49 89 271 8116 Phone/Fax/Modem +49 89 271 3774 ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux From: lbryan@sinkhole.unf.edu (Logan Bryant) Subject: Re: how many Linux installs? Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 07:27:09 GMT Andreas Helke (andreas@fly.mgen.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote: : In article <1993Sep16.083313.13552@truffula.sj.ca.us> : cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) writes: : >I work for a hardware and systems company. We have an : >Interoperability Lab where they install our products on : >the OSes our customers run, test our drivers, run : >benchmarks, etc. : >I want the Lab to install Linux and check it out. But : >I can't make a business case for doing it without knowing : >how big the Linux market is. (All of Unix is only about : >5% of our market.) How many people run Linux, : >on how many machines? If you think you know or have a way to Well, if you're taking a poll, I use it. I'm not a sysadmin, nor am I a UNIX guru or anything of that sort. Just you're average Joe User....and I love it. Logan ------------------------------ From: berndt@numerik.uni-duesseldorf.de (Markus Berndt) Subject: linux on PCI boards ... Date: 20 Sep 1993 08:33:05 GMT Hi, has anyone successfully installed linux on a PCI bus board? If so, please post a summary of your experiences (performance,...) to c.o.l.m, if not and you are sort of a hardware wizzard please post your opinion about PCI bus boards to c.o.l.m (wether linux should run on them or not). Thanx in advance Markus -- =============================================================================== Markus Berndt =============================================================================== Angewandte Mathematik | private adress: Heinrich Heine Universitaet Duesseldorf | Universitaetsstrasse 1 | Dachsbau 11 40225 Duesseldorf, Germany | 40789 Monheim, Germany Tel.: ++49 211 311 3460 | Tel.: ++49 2173 54419 e-mail: berndt@numerik.uni-duesseldorf.de | =============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: mchapman@argos.eis (Michael Chapman K8/EIS1. Tel. 1662) Subject: Re: Memory LEAKING!*=--.._ Date: 20 Sep 93 08:28:36 GMT Reply-To: mchapman@argos.eis In article 332@hpacv.com, jP@hpacv.com () writes: >Hello! > Just installed SLS 0.99.12 and hooked that baby right up to the >net. All went great and life was good UNTIL I did a top or a free. > Here output RIGHT after bootup! HELP! I'm missing 15 meg! > Check this out........... > >Here's the free output: > > total used free shared buffers >Mem: 14964 13792 1172 1856 10696 ^^^^^^ That's where most of it is!!! - in the buffer cache. You really have used about 3M from your 15M. Buffers is your cache for mounted block devices. (Disk, floppy, CD) This will shrink when you start to use memory for other processes. This is all perfectly normal and good! --- ============================================================================== Mike Chapman e-mail: mchapman@eis.k8.rt.bosch.de fax: (+49) 7121/35-1746 tel: (+49) 7121/35-1662 ------------------------------ From: jjsf@gmv.es (Julio Sanchez) Subject: Re: Spanish Keyboard Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 07:52:33 GMT Juan A. Varela F. (U35334@uicvm.uic.edu) wrote: : I have a Spanish Keyboard. However, Linux accepts keystrokes as if they were : made in an English keyboard. Can I somehow set it to accept the spanish : keyboard? Thanks in advance for any help about this. I have been producing Spanish keyboards configurations since 98pl1 or so. I even posted some of them some time ago, I have run throuh fixkbd, national, the new kernel method, you name it. Xmodmap too. I have a definition to be used with modern kernels that seems to work. I don't have it with me at the office, I will get it at home and send it to you and anyone interested. Saludos, Julio -- Julio Sanchez, GMV SA, Isaac Newton 11, PTM Tres Cantos, E-28760 Madrid, Spain Ph. +34 1 807 21 85 | jsanchez@gmv.es | Traveller, there is no Fax +34 1 807 21 99 | jsanchez%gmv.es@Spain.EU.net | path; paths are made by Telex 48487 GMEV E | Julio_Sanchez_GMV@EuroKom.ie | walking (A. Machado) ------------------------------ From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson) Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.04) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 10:03:01 GMT Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of which groups you should read and post to. If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or from another Linux FTP site. In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!' The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place. Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not comp.os.linux.misc. Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions. Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in /pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq. Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me ! -- Ian Jackson (urgent email: iwj10@phx.cam.ac.uk) 35 Molewood Close, Cambridge, CB4 3SR, England; phone: +44 223 327029 ------------------------------ From: guldager@daimi.aau.dk (Hans Guldager Knudsen) Subject: Information on Gigabyte Eisa/VL motherboard ??? Date: 20 Sep 1993 10:37:01 GMT Hello. Has anyone tried out a Gigabyte Eisa/VL motherboard with UMC-chipset. I was offered this board form several vendors in Hamburg/germany. I have seen a test of a Gigabyte Eisa/VL board but with SIS-chipset ( this board had a pretty fast memoryinterface). If you have any information on the following questions please mail: guldager@daimi.aau.dk. How is the compatibility ? Is the Eisa-bus fully 32 bit ? Will ATI's Graphics Ultra Pro run with this chipset ? How is the EISA performance ? How is the VL performance ? How is the memory performance ? ( maybe testet with Cachemess from the German CT'magazin ? ) Thanks. -- Hans Guldager Knudsen | Spobjergvej 54, 6 Stud Comp Sci | DK-8220 Brabrand Daimi, Aarhus Universitet, Danmark | Tlf. (+45) 86 24 07 31 E-mail: guldager@daimi.aau.dk | -- Hans Guldager Knudsen | Spobjergvej 54, 6 Stud Comp Sci | DK-8220 Brabrand Daimi, Aarhus Universitet, Danmark | Tlf. (+45) 86 24 07 31 E-mail: guldager@daimi.aau.dk | ------------------------------ From: frerk@tk.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Frerk Meyer) Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.linux Subject: [Solved] SLS 1.03 and lpr problems Date: 20 Sep 1993 11:38:23 GMT Sorry for crossposting but this seems to be a real FAQ. I fought for two weeks (well, some evenings) to get lpr to work after installing SLS 1.03. I got several mails to help me, all suggesting contradictory things to do. I created directories, links and changed permissions, changing almost every thing, read all FAQs twice, at no effect. When I *only* installed the lpr from the slackware distribution over the SLS one, suddenly all was fine. So for safety I installed the whole slackware lpr package. SLS lpr needs lib.so.4.3.1 Slackware lpr needs lib.so.4.4.1 SLS 1.03 has lib.so.4.4.1, so it should have worked !? I don't say anything against SLS as a whole, but the lpr stuff should be corrected somehow. -- Frerk Meyer -+ alias or Portnoy@irc "Do the ride thing!" o>o ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale) Subject: Re: SCSI Timeouts Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 14:09:58 GMT In article apeterso@badlands.NoDak.edu (Alan Peterson) writes: >Bill Mitchell (mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com) wrote: >I, too, am seeing timeouts with two SCSI disks and a Tandberg 3600 tape >drive. All are internal with the Tandberg at the end of the chain and >terminated. Unfortunately, I'm also seeing 'in2000_abort' with the alpha >version of the IN-2000 driver and the partition table on the second >330 meg drive (where linux lives) is trashed. I can't even do an fdisk write >without hanging the system. The problem is that the in2000 driver is written to only handle one outstanding command at a time. If you attempt to use the tape drive, then you effectively block access to the disk drives until the tape finishes. At some point, someone should update the in2000 driver to handle more than one outstanding command at one time - once this happens, then using a tape drive on this system will work much better. -Eric -- "When Gregor Samsa woke up one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a lawyer." ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via: Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Misc Digest ******************************