From: Digestifier To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 02:13:11 EDT Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #132 Linux-Misc Digest #132, Volume #1 Wed, 15 Sep 93 02:13:11 EDT Contents: Tandberg SCSI tape drives (David A. Vohwinkel) [Q] Another HW recommendation requested (White Gold Wielder) What are jiffies? (Heribert Dahms) Re: jump address listing (Andreas Mengel) Recommendation of books on Tcl/Tk (Weimin Zhao) All this talk of binary compatability (was re: *** commercial...) (Dan Newcombe) Re: Problem installing LINUX with OS/2 2.1 (Charlie Collins) Re: Recommendation of books on Tcl/Tk (Alexei Rafael Rodriguez) Linux and step & compile in regexp? (Byron Faber) Re: NTFS? (Jacques Grove) Re: Recommendation of books on Tcl/Tk (Jonathan Magid) Re: NTFS? (Chris Adams) Re: Problem installing LINUX with OS/2 2.1 (Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account) Re: Problem installing LINUX with OS/2 2.1 (alann lopes) What happened to linux.connected.com? (Steve McMahon) Re: Windows Pop Quiz Re: NT versus Linux (Thomas Beagle) The Unnkulian Unventures: Unnkulia begins with you! (David Baggett) Re: tex 3.1415 (Thomas Esser) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vohwi-d@acsu.buffalo.edu (David A. Vohwinkel) Subject: Tandberg SCSI tape drives Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 18:38:59 GMT I am going to be getting a Tandberg SCSI tape drive that is offered from John Jaskolski on the net. I was wondering what different software can be used with them and what other people think about the drives. ie how they perform under Linux. thanks -- David A Vohwinkel vohwi-d@acsu.buffalo.edu ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware From: mrs@philabs.philips.com (White Gold Wielder) Subject: [Q] Another HW recommendation requested Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 17:47:25 GMT I'm looking for an EISA/VLB/SCSI-II combination to run Linux/X on. The system shall be used initially as an Xterm hooked up to a network of file and compute server workstations (mostly suns, hps, and a few obsolete apollos). EISA ... because I want access to > 16M. VLB ... for fast graphics. SCSI-II ... I plan on doing lots of edit/compile iterations (and besides, someday I just might buy a CD player ;-). If the pc hardware/software combination is fast enough, the pc will replace some of the older/obsolete workstations and X terminals that are currently being used. I've already decided on a 17" autoscan Philips monitor *) model 1762DT, .25mm dot pitch Horz. freq.: 30 - 64 KHz Vert. freq.: 50 - 100 Hz because I get a steep company discount and it looks and performs great connected to an old Sun4/260 or a 486/66 from PC-Professional running Linux. What I'm most concerned about is the motherboard. I was leaning towards COMTRADE because of their price/performance but the net consensus seems to be that Comtrade's NICE mini-EISA motherboard is not a true EISA implementation. Micron's offering fits the bill but is on the high side w/r to cost (even with their recent $200 reduction), we've had problems with DOA equipment from Gateway, and although we like, and have had good service/support/equipment from PC Professionals based in NJ, they only offer IDE based 486/66 w/VLB systems. 1) So what EISA/VLB/SCSI motherboard and/or PC clone do you recommended? 2) As a followup, do you know which keyboard manufacturer, sells a keyboard whose key layout matches a Sun-4 type keyboard. The Sun-4 type keyboard is similar to the AT keyboard in the placement of the key (next to the "a" key). So on the left from top to bottom it's 1 2 3 4 5 q w e r t y a s d f g z x c v

I'm most concerned about the location of the and (control and escape) keys. Thanks for your time and comments. -- Mark R. Simpson Philips Laboratories uunet!philabs!mrs North American Philips Corporation or ------------------------------ From: DAHMS@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Heribert Dahms) Subject: What are jiffies? Date: 14 Sep 1993 19:22:34 GMT Gathering the necessary information for writing a 3c507 driver, I found contradicting info about the "jiffies", needed for timouts, in the source tree (of 0.99.10, if that matters): /usr/src/linux/include/linux/lp.h: /* timeout for printk'ing a timeout, in jiffies (100ths of a second). /usr/src/linux/net/tcp/auto_irq.c: /usr/src/linux/net/inet/auto_irq.c: /usr/src/patches/tcp/auto_irq.c: To use this, first call autoirq_setup(timeout). TIMEOUT is how many 'jiffies' (1/18 sec.) to detect other devices that have active IRQ lines, man -k jiffies finds nothing! Also, I found jiffies correlated to HZ, which seems to be 100 on Linux, but on other unixes it is the power line freqency of 50 or 60 Hz. I guess HZ can be overriden in the kernel config file and break things... Some existing networking code uses timeout values between 5 and 15 jiffies. So what definition is correct? Bye, Heribert (dahms@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de) ------------------------------ From: falcon@hotblack.sh.sub.org (Andreas Mengel) Subject: Re: jump address listing Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 11:51:20 GMT Hi there! dchannon@moss.newcastle.edu.au (David Channon) writes: > Where do you register the possible location for shared libs >and where do you get the list of currently reserved locations for >the shared lib? Send mail to eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale). He is the guy who is responsible (or so I think) for the shared-library tools and I already asked him to reserve some space for me :-) ... > I have look at the tools docs, It this the latest >offical list? > Has anyone a copy of a shared lib for wxw? > And does it (That version) use motif or xview widget library? I am working on it ! First version works ok, but needs a little cleanup. I think I will release a beta-version next weekend (i am waiting for a mail from the author (Julian Smart) and from Eric Youngdale for the final address- space I should use). The version I used was the 1.40 with xview widgets (I don't have motif, want to buy me one :-)) ??? ). Right now I am cleaning up and testing but also looking at version 1.50 which is in beta now. Probably it would be best to try the newer version when it is stable enough ... > Cheers Dave. >------------------------------------------------------ > David Channon .-_|\ > Department of Computer Science / \ > The University of Newcastle \.--._/ > NSW, 2308, AUSTRALIA v > Email : dchannon@cs.newcastle.edu.au >------------------------------------------------------ -- Bye, Falcon +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Real Name: Andreas Mengel | | Internet: Andreas.Mengel@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE | | Home: falcon@hotblack.sh.sub.org | Bitnet: 169371@DOLUNI1 | +-------------+-------------------------------------------------+-------------+ |Some say I'm lazy, but others say that's just me.| |Some say I'm crazy, I guess I'll always be! (GnR)| +-------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: wzhao@mcs.kent.edu (Weimin Zhao) Subject: Recommendation of books on Tcl/Tk Date: 14 Sep 1993 20:25:00 GMT Could someone recommend me books on tcl/tk? I'm trying to use it with Linux to develop some GUI applications. Anyway, how is xview compared with tcl/tk? Thanks in advance! -Weimin ------------------------------ From: dnewcomb@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Dan Newcombe) Subject: All this talk of binary compatability (was re: *** commercial...) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 20:32:51 GMT Okay, let me get this straight. We use a.out, SYSV3 uses COFF, SYSV4 uses ELF, and SCO uses COFF? Is this right? Well, it doesn't really matter that much. So what your saying is when we get the COFF/ELF support finished, I'd be able to FTP something that was compiled on SCO for SCO and run it like I would a linux app. That's cool... Okay, now let me ask you this - how about AIX/386 Version? I am pretty sure that it uses a.out format. What would I need to do to run it on Linux? -Dan ------------------------------ From: cac@xnmusc.mit.edu (Charlie Collins) Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.setup,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.os2.misc Subject: Re: Problem installing LINUX with OS/2 2.1 Date: 14 Sep 1993 21:44:23 GMT In article 2705, Jongyoon Lee writes: >I'd recommend you to use linux fdisk to partition OS/2. It's a lot more >flexible and smarter than OS/2's fdisk. >Hope this helps. >Jongyoon Whoa! Everything that I have read claims that OS/2 will trash any partitions that it does not understand, which includes Linux partitions (and probably everything except those partitions made by OS/2 itself). If you make your partitions with an OS other than OS/2, then use OS/2 I think that you are running the risk of losing them. I am no expert, but that is how I understood the warnings that have been printed in the FAQs (presumably *by* experts). Charlie Collins cac@space.mit.edu ------------------------------ From: alexei@dragonfly.cis.ufl.edu (Alexei Rafael Rodriguez) Subject: Re: Recommendation of books on Tcl/Tk Date: 14 Sep 1993 21:46:20 GMT In article <2759as$npr@usenet.mcs.kent.edu>, wzhao@mcs.kent.edu (Weimin Zhao) writes: |> Could someone recommend me books on tcl/tk? I'm trying to use it |> with Linux to develop some GUI applications. Anyway, how is xview |> compared with tcl/tk? |> Thanks in advance! -Weimin |> You should probably get "An Introduction to Tcl and Tk" by John Ousterhout. He, being the principal developer of Tcl/Tk knows what he is talking about. Very good book. It is in draft format (postscript files) on harbor.ecn.purdue.edu or sprite.berkeley.edu. It is 4 files. If you will be building apps using Tk and Tcl, you should deffinitelly get the program Xf. Excellent interface/app builder. Alexei ------------------------------ From: btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron Faber) Subject: Linux and step & compile in regexp? Date: 14 Sep 1993 23:16:32 GMT I've been porting olvwm 3.3 to linux, being that the version on sunsite is 3.1 (I think). Anyway.. most of it went ok, except for the references to: step() & compile() Both are in regexp.h on a Sun, but they aren't in linux that I can tell. Does anybody out there know what these two do? Or have any suggestions as to how I can make a generic version of each to link into olvwm? I really don't want to read all the code of olvwm if I don't have to. Thanks, Byron Faber -- PGP 2.3 key available (in plan file) at: Support questionable code: btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu & Pgp 2.3 and others btf57346@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu ------------------------------ From: grovej@cs.sun.ac.za (Jacques Grove) Subject: Re: NTFS? Date: 14 Sep 1993 15:48:43 GMT Stephen R. Savitzky (steve@crc.ricoh.COM) wrote: : Anyone working on NTFS (that's the Windoze NT file system) drivers? Why ???!!!! IMHO, drivers for HPFS (OS/2 filing system) should (?) be easier to implement AND be of use to more people... Jacques Grove OS/2 RULZ!!! University of Stellenbosch South Africa ------------------------------ From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid) Subject: Re: Recommendation of books on Tcl/Tk Date: 14 Sep 1993 23:46:54 GMT In article <2759as$npr@usenet.mcs.kent.edu>, Weimin Zhao wrote: >Could someone recommend me books on tcl/tk? I'm trying to use it >with Linux to develop some GUI applications. Anyway, how is xview >compared with tcl/tk? There is only one book on tcl/tk- the one by the author, and it has not yet been released (soon though.) The pre-prints for this book are available in post-script form on sunsite.unc.edu in /pub/languages/tcl/sprite-mirror/book*. If you don't have a post-script printer, you can view it with ghostscript and ghostview. cheers, jem. ------------------------------ From: gt8741b@prism.gatech.EDU (Chris Adams) Subject: Re: NTFS? Date: 15 Sep 93 00:31:48 GMT In article <274p4r$75o@itu1.sun.ac.za> grovej@cs.sun.ac.za (Jacques Grove) writes: >Stephen R. Savitzky (steve@crc.ricoh.COM) wrote: >: Anyone working on NTFS (that's the Windoze NT file system) drivers? > >IMHO, drivers for HPFS (OS/2 filing system) should (?) be easier to >implement AND be of use to more people... Well, the way I understand it (flames about my ignorance to /dev/null), NTFS is only slightly different than HPFS, so if you get one running, you should also just about have the other one. -- Chris Adams | "Don't touch that! That's the history Georgia Tech | eraser button!" - R&S Internet: gt8741b@prism.gatech.edu| "I chortle at thee, thou pathetic ==================================+ chucklehead!" = the Wizard ------------------------------ From: ctwilson@rock.concert.net (Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account) Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.setup,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.os2.misc Subject: Re: Problem installing LINUX with OS/2 2.1 Date: 15 Sep 1993 00:36:56 GMT In article <275dvn$5nl@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> cac@xnmusc.mit.edu (Charlie Collins) writes: > > > >In article 2705, Jongyoon Lee writes: > >>I'd recommend you to use linux fdisk to partition OS/2. It's a lot more >>flexible and smarter than OS/2's fdisk. > >>Hope this helps. > > >>Jongyoon > >Whoa! Everything that I have read claims that OS/2 will trash any >partitions that it does not understand, which includes Linux partitions >(and probably everything except those partitions made by OS/2 itself). >If you make your partitions with an OS other than OS/2, then use OS/2 >I think that you are running the risk of losing them. I am no expert, >but that is how I understood the warnings that have been printed in >the FAQs (presumably *by* experts). > OS/2 is rather fussy...I couldn't do any more than rename a partition ID with Linux fdisk 1.4. When I tried to mark a partition active, I didn't have a lot of fun (couldn't even get to bootmanager). -- /-----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Tom Wilson | "I can't complain, but sometimes | | ctwilson@rock.concert.net | I still do." | | | -Joe Walsh | ------------------------------ From: lopes@cogsci.ucsd.edu (alann lopes) Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.setup,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.os2.misc Subject: Re: Problem installing LINUX with OS/2 2.1 Date: 15 Sep 1993 03:30:35 GMT In article <275dvn$5nl@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> cac@xnmusc.mit.edu (Charlie Collins) writes: > > >In article 2705, Jongyoon Lee writes: > >>I'd recommend you to use linux fdisk to partition OS/2. It's a lot more >>flexible and smarter than OS/2's fdisk. > >>Hope this helps. > > >>Jongyoon > >Whoa! Everything that I have read claims that OS/2 will trash any >partitions that it does not understand, which includes Linux partitions >(and probably everything except those partitions made by OS/2 itself). >If you make your partitions with an OS other than OS/2, then use OS/2 >I think that you are running the risk of losing them. I am no expert, >but that is how I understood the warnings that have been printed in >the FAQs (presumably *by* experts). > > Charlie Collins > cac@space.mit.edu The OS/2 fdisk appears to work quite acceptably. I've used it to make all the partitions on my system and only thing I had to use the Linux fdisk for was to change the file system type for the Linux partition. I currently have: OS/2, NT, Chicago, NextStep and Linux all happily coexisting and booting from OS/2's Boot Manager. alann alann lopes: alopes@ucsd.edu (619) 534-5438 (619) 453-3989 ------------------------------ From: steve.mcmahon@lambada.oit.unc.edu (Steve McMahon) Subject: What happened to linux.connected.com? Date: 15 Sep 93 04:32:25 GMT It was useful. What happened to it? tt doesn't exist anymore. -Steve ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle) Subject: Re: Windows Pop Quiz Re: NT versus Linux Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 02:48:15 GMT In article <1993Sep13.235943.7481@kf8nh.wariat.org> bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >True. But that only proves my point: the traditional definition of >"operating system" isn't flexible enough to properly describe modern >operating systems. I still like the following definition of an operating system: "the layer of software between the hardware and the applications" -- Thomas Beagle | thomas@datamark.co.nz Work: +64 4 2338186 ,__o Technical Writer | Home: +64 4 4993832 _-\_<, Wellington, NZ | Four wheels good, two wheels bad^h^h^hbetter! (*)/'(*) ------------------------------ From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) Crossposted-To: rec.games.int-fiction,rec.games.misc,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,rec.games.programmer Subject: The Unnkulian Unventures: Unnkulia begins with you! Date: 15 Sep 1993 04:53:36 GMT Reply-To: dmb@ai.mit.edu New this time: UU1 breaks into the Net Games Top 100! ============================================================================== The Net PC Games Top 100 Edition 37 - Week 37 - September 13, 1993 ============================================================================== TW LW NW Title Developer/Publisher(s) Cat ID Points ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... 100 ( -)^ 1 Unnkulian Underworld {S} Adventions AD [1299] 14 Administrative notes: There has been some confusion about this posting. A few people have objected to my posting it in groups like comp.os.linux(.misc), commenting that "they're DOS games, not appropriate for {Linux, NeXT cubes, Suns}." I only post this to groups that deal with machines and operating systems *that the games will run on*. Currently, that includes the following: - PC clones under MS-DOS - Macintoshes - Atari ST/TT/Falcon - Sun Sparcstation (SunOS or Solaris 2) - Sun 3 - DECstation (MIPS) running Ultrix - SGI (Iris/Indigo/Indy) running Irix - Linux (386) - NeXT A significant advantage of the all-text format is that the games are easy to port -- trivial, in fact. The machine-independent game files we put on the archive sites will run without modification on any system that has a TADS run-time. Even if your system is not one of those listed above, it should be easy to get the TADS run-time running on it if it is at all Unix-like. Though source to the TADS run-time is not freely distributable, you can generally get it for porting purposes just by asking the folks at High Energy Software and filling out a non-discolsure agreement. (More info about TADS is at the end this message.) Finally, one person felt that the previous posting was too commerical. In an effort to avoid abusing the net, I've removed everything but a brief mention of our commercial game. Dave *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* The Unnkulian Unventure Series Adventure Games for the 90's Remember the good old days, when adventure games challenged you with great puzzles and evocative descriptions without resorting to any graphics at all? We really miss that emphasis on gameplay rather than glitz, so we've decided to write our own adventure games along the lines of the early text games we liked so much. If you're looking for top-quality interactive fiction comparable to 1980's commercial offerings, check out the Unnkulian Unventure series, available from an archive site near you! In _Unnkulian Underworld: The Unknown Unventure_ you play the part of Kuulest's slave, and must recover the Orb of Studosity from the evil Unnkulians. Kuulest, the old geezebag, has died and left you with nothing to go on but a cryptic message about saving the planet. You'll encounter amazing Acme products, the infamous Guardian, those witty creatures known as Drolls, a giant beaver, and even the Dread Unnkulian Warrior. In _Unnkulian Unventure II: The Secret of Acme_ your adventure continues as you try to create some good press for yourself -- wouldn't want to fade into anonymous obscurity, now would you? Along the way, you'll find the answers to these compelling questions, and more: o What happened to the Unnkulians? o Why are Acme products so bad? o What is this cheez stuff, really? Plus, you'll get to explore Dawg Rock, a Duhdist Retreat, Acme's clandestine prototypes laboratory, and even pay a visit to Acme HQ. In _Unnkulia One-Half: The Salesman Triumphant_, you'll play the role of a down-and-out Acme salesman, forced to work out of the Golden Dragon Inn, dangerously near Dread Unnkulia. Will you accumulate enough loot in this frightful backwater berg to turn your fortunes in your favor? And, in _Unnkulia Zero: The Search for Amanda_, will you, the Valley King's most trusted warrior, rescue his Lady Amanda from the gruesome clutches of the evil Unnkulians? The Unnkulian Unventures have already gotten rave reviews from numerous adventure game connoisseurs around the world, so why not give them a try? The games are available for FTP from the if-archive at ftp.gmd.de. (Note that the site wuarchive.wustl.edu keeps a mirror of the if-archive in the mirrors directory.) PC and compatibles (running DOS): ================================= if-archive/games/adventions/pc/unnk1v30.zip if-archive/games/adventions/pc/unnk2v30.zip if-archive/games/adventions/pc/unnkhz10.zip Macintosh: ========== if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnk1v30.sit.bin if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnk2v30.sit.bin if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnkhz10.sit.bin (These are MacBinary files.) if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnk1v30.sit.hqx if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnk2v30.sit.hqx if-archive/games/adventions/mac/unnkhz10.sit.hqx (These are Binhexed Stuffit 1.5.1 files.) Atari ST/TT/Falcon: =================== if-archive/games/adventions/pc/uu1v301.arc if-archive/games/adventions/pc/uu2v30.arc if-archive/games/adventions/pc/unnkhz10.arc Others: ======= if-archive/games/adventions/others/uu1v301.tar.Z if-archive/games/adventions/others/uu2v30.tar.Z if-archive/games/adventions/others/unnkhz10.tar.Z TADS now runs on lots of different systems. Because of this, the files listed above are TADS .GAM-file only archives that can be used with any machine that runs TADS. The tricky bit is that before you can play the games, you need to get the TADS run-time for your machine. Fortunately, this isn't hard to do. Just grab the TADS executable package for your machine from the if-archive: Sun Sparcstation (SunOS): if-archive/programming/tads/sparc-sunos.tads2exe.tar.Z Sun Sparcstation (Solaris): if-archive/programming/tads/sparc-solaris.tads2exe.tar.Z Sun 3: if-archive/programming/tads/sun3.tads2exe.tar.Z DECstation (MIPS) running Ultrix: if-archive/programming/tads/decmips.tads2exe.tar.Z SGI (Iris/Indigo/Indy) running Irix: if-archive/programming/tads/sgi-irix.tads2exe.tar.Z Linux (386): if-archive/programming/tads/linux.tads2exe.tar.Z NeXT: if-archive/programming/tads/NeXT.tads2exe.tar.Z Amiga, other Unix: In the works! The file How-To-Run-These-Games in the same directory gives your more information. NOTE: The source to TADS 2 is not distributable. However, if your machine isn't on the list yet, and you would like to volunteer to port TADS 2 to it, send email about it to Mike Roberts . Porting to Unix-like systems is fairly trivial. *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* Unnkulian Unventures I and II are shareware ($10 registration fee each); registering gets you spiffy maps and agony-sparing hint sheets. Unnkulia One-Half is free -- don't pay us for it! Unnkulia One-Half comes with a playable demo of Unnkulia Zero and info on how to get the complete version. Happy adventioning! Dave Baggett ADVENTIONS Internet: dmb@ai.mit.edu Compuserve: 76440,2671 GEnie: ADVENTIONS A Word About TADS ================= We at ADVENTIONS use a programming language called TADS to write our games. TADS is a product of High Energy Software, and you can get it via FTP. TADS (and TADS goodies) are available for many systems from ftp.gmd.de. Look in the if-archive/programming/tads directory. TADS is also shareware, and we strongly encourage you to register it if you use it, since we feel it is a powerful, innovative, and very inexpensive development system that deserves to be paid for. __ dmb@ai.mit.edu Boot up, log in, drop out. MIT AI Lab ADVENTIONS: We make Kuul text adventures! Ask about Unnkulian 1, 2, 0, 1/2 PO Box 851 Columbia, MD 21044 USA / CIS: 76440,2671 / GEnie: ADVENTIONS ------------------------------ From: te@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (Thomas Esser) Subject: Re: tex 3.1415 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 22:20:47 GMT Many thanks for your tips on installing TeX. 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