From: Digestifier To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Fri, 15 Oct 93 19:13:15 EDT Subject: Linux-Development Digest #167 Linux-Development Digest #167, Volume #1 Fri, 15 Oct 93 19:13:15 EDT Contents: Re: Modula-2 for Linux? (Dominik Kubla) Re: Page fault (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP) Re: 586 -- Linux on Pentium (Richard Lewis) *PLEASE* END c.o.l.d NOISE ! (Darren Gilchrist) Re: Will Promise VLB IDE cache-ing controller work w/Linux(DC4030) (Louis J. LaBash Jr.) Re: Linux Slowly Dying Off? + Lets make a game for Linux (Roger Binns) Re: >Re: >Re: CMS Jumbo (QIC 40/80) Driver S (Roger Binns) RE:>Re:>Re: CMS Jumbo (QIC 40/80) Driver S, ? (Louis J. LaBash Jr.) PCMCIA (Frank McCabe) [Q]: PCMCIA driver for Linux? (Gregory D. Matyola) Re: possible bug in virtual console switching (Heiko Herold) Re: Bug (?) in the XT disk code... (Risto Kankkunen) tile forth -- anyone? (Gary Moyer) Can't install Yggdrasil - a workaround found. (Alex Freed) Building shared lib for tcl 7.0? (Savio Lam) >Re: 586 -- Linux on Pentium (Gareth Bult) Re: RE:>Re:>Re: CMS Jumbo (QIC 40/80) Dr (Gareth Bult) Linux on Macintosh....Does it exist? (Andy Tai) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kubla@mogli.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Dominik Kubla) Subject: Re: Modula-2 for Linux? Date: 15 Oct 1993 08:14:09 GMT hoa nhu truong (truong@cis.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : I am looking for a Modula-2 port for Linux. Any pointers will be appreciated. : chris There is also a Modula2-To-C translator called mtc available at: ftp.karlsruhe.gmd.de (hope i got that one right :) The upcoming Modula-3 implementation from the DEC Software Research Center will also support Linux (and there is a Modula2-To-Modula3 converter) which might be the better variant. -- Cheers, Dominik +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | eMail: kubla@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE | | sMail: Dominik Kubla, Steinsberg 34, 56355 Nast\"atten, F. R. Germany | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | | | "Linux: The choice of a GNU generation" --S. Frampton | | | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ DISCLAIMER: Everything written above are the expressed thoughts of the author and in no way connected to 'Johannes Gutenberg Universit\"at", Mainz (Germany). This way, they do not have to care about what I say ... ------------------------------ From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP) Subject: Re: Page fault Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 08:24:35 GMT > gt8134b@prism.gatech.EDU (Howlin' Bob) writes: > > What I need is to let my program handle the causing > SIGSYSV as this: SIGSYSV: A signal generated by the system when running non-approved BSD software on an USL system. Is particularly nasty in that it cannot be easily trapped. The default action is to send mail to lawyers@usl.novell.com and file a $10 million lawsuit against BSDI. /hpa -- INTERNET: hpa@nwu.edu FINGER/TALK: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu IBM MAIL: I036073 at IBMMAIL NeXTMAIL: hpa@speedy.acns.nwu.edu ANMÄRKNING: Heja Sverige friskt humör! EG väntar utanför! Most inappropriatly named startup command, winner: Microsoft Windows ------------------------------ From: rlewis@roach.lehman.com (Richard Lewis) Subject: Re: 586 -- Linux on Pentium Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 07:56:46 GMT In article <1993Oct7.163454.13562@fct.unl.pt> cr@fct.unl.pt (Complementos de Robotica) writes: Hi, Is anyone out there running linux on a 586 ?? If you are, Are there any compatibility problems ?? Everything works fine ?? Thanks in advance, Florbela Aires I'm running Linux on a 8MB Compaq Pentium 60mhz installed from the Slackware distribution. Haven't seen any problems at all. Well... a minor problem; some of the games run too quickly! :-) -Richard +-----------------------------------------------------+ Richard Lewis Lehman Brothers Japan Inc. Ark Mori Bldg, 36th Floor 1-12-32 Akasaka Minato-ku, Tokyo 107, JAPAN email: rlewis@lehman.com phone: 81-(3)-5571-7639 -- For a good prime, call: 391581 * 2^216193 - 1 +-----------------------------------------------------+ Richard Lewis Lehman Brothers Japan Inc. Ark Mori Bldg, 36th Floor 1-12-32 Akasaka Minato-ku, Tokyo 107, JAPAN email: rlewis@lehman.com phone: 81-(3)-5571-7639 ------------------------------ From: root@falcon.DIALix.oz.au (Darren Gilchrist) Subject: *PLEASE* END c.o.l.d NOISE ! Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 16:14:53 GMT Although I'm contributing to it :-) As Lars has stated, this newsgroup is becoming unreadable due to two things 1) People posting Irrelevant questions Please remember the charter for this newsgroup "The discussion of Kernel? related developments, not general purpose s/w" I'm sure no one is objecting to the posting of questions that are relevant to such development, even if they aren't kernel wizards... 2) The continuation of "flame" wars A little curtesy goes along way - Please try 'r'eplying via mail rather than 'f'orwarding replying to specific messages, that way we don't get the flood of such messages into the newsgroup. NOTE: Please don't take offense at this "Just use a little common sense and netiquitte - think of others - I've had to wade through six tonnes of crap to see if anyone replied to my proposed "486DLC" patches (Which I am working on BTW) to no avail, if the NOISE level was lower, perhaps I might have found any missing messages :-)" Regards, Darren... -- /-------------------------------+--------------------------------\ | Darren Gilchrist | o __| (I Can't| | 2nd Year Computing Science | o/ vv`\ draw) | | Edith Cowan University | + | | | Perth, Western Australia | /\ | | |-------------------------------+--------------------------------| | root,darren,darreng@falcon.DIALix.oz.au -- darreng@DIALix.oz.au| \----------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ From: lou@minuet.siue.edu (Louis J. LaBash Jr. ) Subject: Re: Will Promise VLB IDE cache-ing controller work w/Linux(DC4030) Date: 15 Oct 1993 09:05:16 -0400 Reply-To: lou@minuet.siue.edu (Louis J. LaBash Jr. ) |I am about to get a Promise DC4030 VLB ide cache controller for my vlb mb. |I would like to know if this card is supported by Linux, or if not, is someone |working a driver for it in the future? I'm using a DC-2031 with MCC-interim .99p10+ and it works *great*. This IDE/floppy cache controller is for the ISA bus. I'm running my ISA bus at 16MHz. The Promise Technology DC-2031 has an onboard ROM that integrates the controller into the system on power-up, in other words the ROM is the driver. I don't know if this would be true for the DC-4030; but I believe it is. Otherwise you would need software drivers for DOS, OS2, etc. Louis-ljl- ------------------------------ From: rogerb@x.co.uk (Roger Binns) Subject: Re: Linux Slowly Dying Off? + Lets make a game for Linux Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 12:46:18 GMT Grant Edwards (grante@aquarius.rosemount.com) wrote: : Remeber, the market doesn't go to the best solution, it goes to the : first one that's just barely good enough. The canonical example for all these wars is Betamax vs VHS (or was that Coke vs Pepsi ;-) Roger -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Roger Binns | "I can't even begin to think what they think about" | | rogerb@x.co.uk | - Audrey I, Little Shop of Horrors. | +--------- two wheels good, four wheels bad ---------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: rogerb@x.co.uk (Roger Binns) Subject: Re: >Re: >Re: CMS Jumbo (QIC 40/80) Driver S Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 13:20:39 GMT Gareth Bult (gareth@gblinux.demon.co.uk) wrote: : This generated much stopping and starting at some points... ie; the : tape drive is faster than my machine's compression. Hence the data thruput : could be increased using a 486/66....! A simple way of speeding up gzip is to compile with the options: -O6 -m486 -funroll-loops You could instead also have -funroll-all-loops. It tends to give you 5-10% improvement in speed, at the cost of a bigger binary. Roger -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Roger Binns | "I can't even begin to think what they think about" | | rogerb@x.co.uk | - Audrey I, Little Shop of Horrors. | +--------- two wheels good, four wheels bad ---------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: lou@minuet.siue.edu (Louis J. LaBash Jr. ) Subject: RE:>Re:>Re: CMS Jumbo (QIC 40/80) Driver S, ? Date: 15 Oct 1993 09:44:14 -0400 Reply-To: lou@minuet.siue.edu (Louis J. LaBash Jr. ) |From: gareth@gblinux.demon.co.uk (Gareth Bult) |Subject: >Re: >Re: CMS Jumbo (QIC 40/80) Driver S |Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 20:52:24 GMT [deleted...] |Stats: 486/33DX with 16Mb using CMS Jumbo 250 with DC2120: |Data Volume: 127.5Mb |Time Taken: 43:53 [deleted...] |There seem to be only a few outstanding points from what I've seen & heard; |1) Ability to switch on/off hardware compression [deleted...] What hardware compression? It is my understanding that CMS uses Stacker's chipset for compression, and it is on the optional controller card. The above hardware (Stats:) don't show the optional card. Louis-ljl- ------------------------------ From: fgm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Frank McCabe) Subject: PCMCIA Date: 15 Oct 93 14:20:44 GMT I have been having some trouble lately trying to get my Toshiba hooked up on to our network. It seems that I will need to hack up a driver for my Ethernet card myself. What I would like is some information .... WHere can I find out how to drive PCMCIA cards? It uses a standard Intel 82365 controller. ------------------------------ From: gdm@columbia.gem.valpo.edu (Gregory D. Matyola) Subject: [Q]: PCMCIA driver for Linux? Date: 13 Oct 1993 17:09:28 GMT If anyone knows of an existing or developing driver for Linux using a PCMCIA slot, or any mailing lists I should be subscribed to, please email me. -- Greg Matyola -- Valparaiso University. All opinions above are only mine, not those of VU. I'm a Physics major, so everything that I do is uncertain. gdm@herman.gem.valpo.edu (Gregory D. Matyola) S.T. and Dr. Who fanatic. Reads Terry Pratchett, Douglas Adams, and Role playing games for fun. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: possible bug in virtual console switching From: hman@iris.dei.unipd.it (Heiko Herold) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 10:42:43 GMT In article <1993Oct11.210104.7909@excaliber.uucp> joel@rac2.wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) writes: >In article <29c2o5$dfi@klaava.Helsinki.FI> kankkune@cs.Helsinki.FI (Risto Kankkunen) writes: [..] > >Well, I'm running pl12, so that would make sense. Can anyone confirm >(or deny) that the bug was fixed in pl13? > Well I'm running the SLS with the pl12 but I upgraded the kernel to pl13 and the problem is still here. Heiko Herold -- ---hman@[paola][maya][claudia][chiara].dei.unipd.it - Don't let the SUN go down on me {George Micheal} - Hi Mom. I know nobody reads manuals and FaQs, but I knew _you_ would. I worked really hard on this manual, and...Mom...wake up Mom. ------------------------------ From: kankkune@cs.Helsinki.FI (Risto Kankkunen) Subject: Re: Bug (?) in the XT disk code... Date: 15 Oct 1993 17:10:01 GMT >The man pages copied fine, but during the tab, I started to get write errors >on the drive, and I could not get any response from the system (RESET!!!:( >When I looked, the drive was only 25% full. Odd. So I manually copied the >rest of the tab subdirs over - no problem. >The actual cp command went fine, but right after that I "sync"ed so that >I could shutdown, and it started going nuts - it sounded like it was >writing and writing and writing... and then I started to get the write errors >again. (RESET!!! :( >I guess this is more of an FYI type of thing. I have used my old ST238R quite heavily and have not experienced problems like this. On one occasion I had my partition table set incorrectly and that resulted something like you had above. So, my advise is for you to check out the partition table parameters, fsck the fs, check the controller configuration (no overlapping IRQs or port addresses) etc. (I have nasty locking problems when using the XT disk for kernel compilations and swapping, though.) -- It's that time of the year again ------------------------------ From: moyerg@cs.pdx.edu (Gary Moyer) Subject: tile forth -- anyone? Date: 15 Oct 1993 19:08:36 GMT Has anyone attempted to get this working properly?? With some signal tweaking it will compile but only about 70% of the tests work properly.. Thanks!! Gary Moyer moyerg@cs.pdx.edu ------------------------------ From: freed@europa.orion.adobe.com (Alex Freed) Subject: Can't install Yggdrasil - a workaround found. Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 19:07:56 GMT Hi gang, I couldn't install the Yggdrasil CD-ROM due to read errors on my CDU31A drive. So I borrowed a TOSHIBA SCSI CD-ROM, but found problems too. The scsi driver uses INQURY command to determine device type. The CD-ROM drive claims to be a DISK (type 0x00) rather than a ROM (type 0x05). If I later mount it using /dev/sdc (I have 2 "real" scsi disks) it works, but I still can't install Yggdrasil, because it tries to mount cd-rom as root and doesn't give me a chance to fool the system. So I made a simple patch to the kernel's scsi driver that works for me and probably will not break anything else. I don't check for Vendor field, because as far as I am concerned, every device that have a name starting with "CD-ROM" should be forced to TYPE_ROM. Here is a patch for 0.99 p 12. Yggdrasil is based on p.13, but I need to install it first! *** scsi.c.org Wed Aug 11 22:36:48 1993 --- scsi.c Fri Oct 15 10:42:24 1993 *************** *** 299,304 **** --- 299,311 ---- * flags set for ROM / WORM treated as RO. */ + /* check for cdroms that claim they are disks */ + if(scsi_result[0] == TYPE_DISK) + if(strncmp("CD-ROM", &scsi_result[16], 6) == 0){ + scsi_result[0] = TYPE_ROM; + printk("scsi: forced type to ROM\n"); + } + switch (type = scsi_result[0]) { case TYPE_TAPE : -- _______________________________________________________ | -Alex Freed (The opinions expressed are my own. | | However everyone is entitled to them.) | | freed%adobe.com@uucp-gw-1.pa.dec.com | ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: lam836@cs.cuhk.hk (Savio Lam) Subject: Building shared lib for tcl 7.0? Reply-To: lam836@cs.cuhk.hk Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 03:46:48 GMT I just got and compiled tcl 7.0/tk3.3 . Now, I try to build a shared library for it. I got tools 2.9, followed the instructions given in the documents, everything went smoothly but when it comes to running mkimage, it always says something like "__main undefined". Would anyone please tell me the trick? BTW, I've also tried building shared library for svgalib081, but "getsize >jump.vars-new" gives _graph_mem size of 0? What's wrong? Thanks in advance. Regards, Savio Lam. -- ############################################################################### # | _ # # ------------------------------- | _| |_ # # Lam Lai Yin, Savio | |_ _| # # | | | # # Internet: lam836@cs.cuhk.hk | / \ Can't live with DOS? # # Department of Computer Science | | DOS | # # Chinese University of Hong Kong | | | Try Linux... # # ------------------------------- | | | # # | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ # ############################################################################### ------------------------------ From: gareth@gblinux.demon.co.uk (Gareth Bult) Subject: >Re: 586 -- Linux on Pentium Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 22:29:15 GMT On Fri, 15 Oct 1993 07:56:46 GMT; ----Richard Lewis (rlewis@roach.lehman.com) said: >Well... a minor problem; some of the games run too quickly! :-) Gee, real tough. You have our sympathy.... ------------------------------ From: gareth@gblinux.demon.co.uk (Gareth Bult) Subject: Re: RE:>Re:>Re: CMS Jumbo (QIC 40/80) Dr Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 22:49:29 GMT On 15 Oct 1993 09:44:14 -0400; ----Louis J. LaBash Jr. (lou@minuet.siue.edu) said: >What hardware compression? It is my understanding that CMS uses Stacker's >chipset for compression, and it is on the optional controller card. The >above hardware (Stats:) don't show the optional card. I don't have an optional card. I couple of people mentioned this, let me read from my manual. (!) =========================================================================== JUMBO Feature; Page 4; Installation Guide; JUMBO 250: 250Mb capacity with data compression About 6 minutes for 40 Megabyte backup.... etc < I have 250Mb Stamped on the front of the drive! > Specification - 250Mb Tape Drive; page 38 Capactiy after ECC; 205ft DC2080 - 83Mb-166Mb (w/comp) 307ft DC2120 - 125Mb-250Mb (w/comp) User guide;page 2-25; Data Compression Data compression dramatically increases the capacity of your tape drive. With data compression you can store about twice as much data on each mini tape. No special tape formatting is necessary. Compression Rates; Two types of compression are available. Choose OPTIMISE SPACE for STANDARD HARDWARE and software data compression, which reduces the size of the files backed up by about 50%. Choose Optimise time for high speed software data compression. =========================================================================== Under DOS I can quite happily say OPTIMISE TIME. Please tell me, reading this what do you think? If I can't get more that 120Mb on a tape, me-thinks CMS could go bankrupt vary shortly.... Gareth. ------------------------------ From: atai@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Andy Tai) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Linux on Macintosh....Does it exist? Date: 15 Oct 93 22:44:12 GMT Hi, I heard that Linux is being ported to the Apple Macintosh. I wonder what is the current status? 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