From: Digestifier To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 21:13:11 EDT Subject: Linux-Development Digest #115 Linux-Development Digest #115, Volume #1 Tue, 21 Sep 93 21:13:11 EDT Contents: Re: AHA1542c Compatible with Linux??? (kenneth klein) Re: Linux, Notebooks, XFree86, and LCDs (Stephen Harris) Re: port of Linux to the upcoming PowerPC? Free manual available (Hansruedi Heeb) Re: AHA1542c Compatible with Linux??? (Martin Kroeker) Multiple Man pages (Simon Johnston) Re: No smart serial boards??? (Chris Nystrom) Re: What do people think about /config? (Johan A. Grape) emacs19 from MCC M-^? causes suspend? (Mark Eichin) Gateway with SMC16 Re: port of Linux to the upcoming PowerPC? Free manual available (Shane Hoversten) Re: GCC, is it a bug or isn't it? (Andrew Mauer) Re: AHA1542c Compatible with Linux??? (Bob Myers) Re: Anybody ever try crashme on Linux? (Mark Eichin) Q: Anyone working on OS/2's HPFS for Linux? (Mark Biegler) Re: EXT2 fs bug? (Alexander Otterbein) Re: term (Patrick Sweeney) rdump and rrestore anyone? (Neal Stephenson) Re: AHA1542c Compatible with Linux??? (Jerry Gulla) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ken@ken1010.UUCP (kenneth klein) Subject: Re: AHA1542c Compatible with Linux??? Date: 21 Sep 93 10:51:33 GMT From article <27fsni$po9@ub.d.umn.edu>, by kkoster@ub.d.umn.edu (Kirby Koster): > > I've looked on the hardware compat list and it only lists the 1542 and 1542B. > Does anybody know if the C is compatible? I already went through purchasing > I have Linux installed from a Toshiba CD drive over a 1542c. It installled ok, but I cant mount the CD, floppy, or dos partition.(after the install). I get "mount: Unknow error 26240". ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.linux.help From: harris@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk (Stephen Harris) Subject: Re: Linux, Notebooks, XFree86, and LCDs Date: 21 Sep 93 19:07:53 BST James S. Vera (vera@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : pcolsen@super.org (Peter C Olsen) writes: : >I'm looking for anyone who has ever successfully installed Linux and : >XFree86 on an LCD laptop. I have a laptop that I carry for school and : >Reserves and I have been told that getting XFree to run on an LCD will : >be non-trivial. : But, XFree on an LCD does exist and, for me, was trivial. Your milage : may vary. I'm running the mono server of XFree86-1.3 on my Librex notepad using the LCD screen with no problems at all. Early versions of the kernel needed a patch to get psaux port working. Will check pl13 soon since the code has been changed. -- Stephen Harris harris@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk Opinions are just opinions, and the facts are the facts. But what are what? ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc From: heeb@watson.ibm.com (Hansruedi Heeb) Subject: Re: port of Linux to the upcoming PowerPC? Free manual available Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 18:00:57 GMT In article SHOVERST@atc.sp.paramax.com (Shane Hoversten) writes: >In article heeb@watson.ibm.com (Hansruedi Heeb) writes: > >>Just in case someone wants to get started on this: the (free) manual >>of the PowerPC 601 is available. It also contains a detailed >> ... > > I don't know about the other numbers you gave, but this is NOT free, at >least according to the lady at IBM. She said she had been getting lots of >calls concerning this; Apparently someone misinterpreted something. > Yup, it's not free. I cancelled the article and sent one without the word free. You read it too fast ... :-) Hansruedi ------------------------------ From: martin@oc2.oc.chemie.th-darmstadt.de (Martin Kroeker) Subject: Re: AHA1542c Compatible with Linux??? Date: 21 Sep 1993 18:32:27 GMT In article <9309202052@ken1010.UUCP> ken@ken1010.UUCP (kenneth klein) writes: >From article <27fsni$po9@ub.d.umn.edu>, by kkoster@ub.d.umn.edu (Kirby Koster): >> >> I've looked on the hardware compat list and it only lists the 1542 and 1542B. >> Does anybody know if the C is compatible? I already went through purchasing >> >I have Linux installed from a Toshiba CD drive over a 1542c. It >installled ok, but I cant mount the CD, floppy, or dos partition.(after >the install). >I get "mount: Unknow error 26240". Don't blame the 1542c for this - either you omitted the fs type option on the mount command line, or - more probably - the mount point does not exist. In any case, you seem to have a very old version of mount, with cryptic messages like that. What's this doing in c.o.l.development, anyway ? Martin -- Dipl.-Ing. Martin Kroeker kroeker@oc1.oc.chemie.th-darmstadt.de Inst. f. Organ. Chemie martin@oc2.oc.chemie.th-darmstadt.de Univ. (TH) Darmstadt db7p@hrzpub.th-darmstadt.de Germany (in real life: ) ------------------------------ From: skj@oasis.icl.co.uk (Simon Johnston) Subject: Multiple Man pages Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 11:35:42 GMT I have had a problem where my Slackware installation put multiple copies of man pages into the man directories, these files are a mixture of .n, .n.Z and .n.z. For some commands this meant that I had three man pages for one command. When I type 'man command' I get the page displayed three times, not on !! I include a small perl script I wrote which takes the piped output from an ls and will select the most useful of the man pages and remove the others. The priority I have selected is plain manpage least useful compressed manpage next useful (.Z suffix) gzipped manpage most useful (.z suffix) I use the fact that the output from ls is sorted into this order as the basic assumtion for the script. So if you cut it out and call it 'cleanMP' then execute 'ls |cleanMP' in each of the man directories. Let me know of any problems etc. # ---- start of file ---- #!/usr/bin/perl $old_command = ""; while (<>) { chop; if (/(.*)\.[1-9n]/) { if ($old_command eq $1) { system "rm $old_file"; } $old_command = $1; $old_file = $_; } } # ---- end of file ---- MODULE Sig; FROM ICL IMPORT StdDisclaimer; BEGIN (*-----------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Simon K. Johnston - Development Engineer | ICL Retail Systems, | | ------------------------------------------------------ | 3/4 Willoughby Road,| | Unix Mail : S.K.Johnston.bra0801@oasis.icl.co.uk | Bracknell, Berks, | | Telephone : +44 (0)344 476320 Fax: +44 (0)344 476084 | United Kingdom | | Internal : 7621 6320 OP Mail: S.K.Johnston@BRA0801 | RG12 8TJ | `-----------------------------------------------------------------------------*) END Sig. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss From: chrisn@medianet.com (Chris Nystrom) Subject: Re: No smart serial boards??? Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 14:48:37 GMT In article jonb@specialix.com (Jon Brawn) writes: >I am perfectly willing to write device drivers for Linux for Specialix I/O >cards. Unfortunately, they would probably never get out of our door. Can >anyone answer the following question for me: > > I would like to distribute just a binary of the driver with a small > C file to get it included into the kernel. Is this possible within > the confines of the Linux software license restrictions? > >[ IF you think you are going to answer this question, you first of all need > to convince me you know what you are talking about - I don't want opinions > from 18 year old freshmen, I want facts from people who are actively > involved in the FSF projects]. The Copyleft only applies to software that has been copylefted. What you write can be distributed any way you want. It probably would never make it into the official kernal distribution, but there is no reason why you can not write it and distribute it as you say. On the other hand there are many advantages to the copyleft. If you do distribute the source code, the public could make bug fixes for you. You might be able to sell alot more of those multi-port serial cards if folks new that the drivers were freely available. Good luck. -- chrisn@medianet.com -= Computer Addict =- ------------------------------ From: jgrape@coos.dartmouth.edu (Johan A. Grape) Subject: Re: What do people think about /config? Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 11:56:34 GMT I think that the /config idea spurs from unix sysadm suddenly becoming a job for every PEECEE owner now that linux is around. I can't help but think that it is a really bad idea to differ from the standard unix filesystem. With hopes of getting some commercial software ported to linux and a general acceptance of this as a _solid_ OS, I have to vote against. /etc only contains the configuration files and executables that are used for sysadm tasks. Why is there talk of mixing X related app-defaults files, and everything with this in another directory? It just makes things even more cluttered! I have been running linux > than a year as my only os. I really do not spend much time on the /etc related files, and it is really a one time task to set it all up. Mostly, specifics for various applications are modified until I like them in the home directory of me as regular joe user. When things become good enough, they are moved into the respective configs. If you go changing everything all the time all the other users of your system are going to get _really_ pissed. IMHO: Leave it like it is. Best regards Johan ------------------------------ From: eichin@tweedledumber.cyGNUs.com (Mark Eichin) Subject: emacs19 from MCC M-^? causes suspend? Date: 21 Sep 93 14:24:55 I've been using MCC-0.99.10+ (real easy to install, and great for laptops, as it is easier to notice you need something and get it than to notice that you *don't* need something and throw it away...) and it comes with a terminal-based emacs-19.15. I've discovered that if I hit Meta-DEL (attempting to delete the previous word) emacs19 will suspend, and then when I foreground it, the tty modes are wrong (it's in line mode, for example...) Using ^X^Z and fg'ing works fine. Anyone seen this, or know of a fix? It's a bug somewhere (funny how the numeric value of Meta-DEL is 0xff :-) _Mark_ ------------------------------ From: root@131.220.124.43 () Subject: Gateway with SMC16 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 12:49:53 GMT Reply-To: root@131.220.124.43 I need to build a Gateway between thin and tp-Ethernet. In the HOWTO's was written that you should simply add an "Eth1"-Device in Space.c to install a second Ethernet-card. This doesnt seem so easy to me and I can't see a way to do this. Is there anybody hwo has done this before or has an idea how to realize this ??? Here some technical informations: Intel - 486 mainbord 8 Mb RAM two SMC16 cards (running under DOS but not yet under Linux) Now running SLS1.03 and linux pl.99.11 Peter Suess Please send answers to: une607@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de or peter@iris.geo.uni-bonn.de ------------------------------ From: SHOVERST@atc.sp.paramax.com (Shane Hoversten) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: port of Linux to the upcoming PowerPC? Free manual available Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 08:38:02 In article heeb@watson.ibm.com (Hansruedi Heeb) writes: >Just in case someone wants to get started on this: the (free) manual >of the PowerPC 601 is available. It also contains a detailed >description of the op codes. >The part numbers are: >IBM: 52G7484 (phone 800-IBM-MIRS) I don't know about the other numbers you gave, but this is NOT free, at least according to the lady at IBM. She said she had been getting lots of calls concerning this; Apparently someone misinterpreted something. Shane ------------------------------ From: mauer@mcs.anl.gov (Andrew Mauer) Subject: Re: GCC, is it a bug or isn't it? Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 21:20:35 GMT >>>>> On Thu, 16 Sep 1993 16:21:44 GMT, jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders) said: zmbenhal@netcom.com (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim) writes: >>3. Final problem. Again when compiling Faircom's header files I came >> across this line: >>#ifdef NEVER_DEFINED >> Hey you dummy, you defined NEVER_DEFINED. >>#endif >> The GCC compilere would complain and give me an error condtion on the >> ifdef'd line. Isn't the preprocesor supposed to follow the conditionals >> the same as the compilere? John> [...] >I'm not sure what ANSI says about this but it is common in the transition >from MSDOS to unix (or at least GCC). It should look like: >#ifdef NEVER_DEFINED >#error Hey you dummy, you defined NEVER_DEFINED. >#endif John> Unless I'm missing something here, the above should work. According John> to K&R, A 12.5, "text controlled by inactive arms of the conditional is John> ignored except for checking the nesting of conditionals." And, in fact, the following test programs both compile without a problem with gcc 2.4.5, so I don't understand what the problem is. End user error? ============================= #ifdef NEVER_DEFINED Hey you dummy, you defined NEVER_DEFINED. #endif int main(void) { return 1 ; } =============================== int main(void) { #ifdef NEVER_DEFINED Hey you dummy, you defined NEVER_DEFINED. #endif return 1 ; } ============================== /Andrew/ -- /Andrew Mauer/ mauer@mcs.anl.gov ------------------------------ From: bmyers@dseg.ti.com (Bob Myers) Subject: Re: AHA1542c Compatible with Linux??? Reply-To: bmyers@dseg.ti.com Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 15:08:01 GMT In article 9309202052@ken1010.UUCP, ken@ken1010.UUCP (kenneth klein) writes: >From article <27fsni$po9@ub.d.umn.edu>, by kkoster@ub.d.umn.edu (Kirby Koster): >> >> I've looked on the hardware compat list and it only lists the 1542 and 1542B. >> Does anybody know if the C is compatible? I already went through purchasing >> >I have Linux installed from a Toshiba CD drive over a 1542c. It >installled ok, but I cant mount the CD, floppy, or dos partition.(after >the install). >I get "mount: Unknow error 26240". I have had a archive 525e tape subsystem attached for the last few months with my 1542c...no problems with reading/writing tar tapes. I'm expecting a scsi disk drive to arrive shortly; will post results if needed... ------------------------------ From: eichin@tweedledumber.cyGNUs.com (Mark Eichin) Subject: Re: Anybody ever try crashme on Linux? Date: 21 Sep 93 13:38:54 sigh. what you've *all* (well, the 20 or so in the thread as I see it here...) missed is that "crashme" is a particular program, that probably didn't crash Linux because it hits bugs that are common on OS'es for RISC-based machines... It's been posted to the net a few times. It grabs a block of memory, fills it with random garbage, masks (or handles?) all of the signals, and jumps into the garbage. Older versions of DECMIPS Ultrix would panic; I think SunOS 4 did too... _Mark_ ------------------------------ From: biegler@borealis.cs.uregina.ca (Mark Biegler) Subject: Q: Anyone working on OS/2's HPFS for Linux? Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 16:39:05 GMT ------------------------------ From: prale@prale.rhoen.sub.org (Alexander Otterbein) Subject: Re: EXT2 fs bug? Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 23:18:46 GMT In article tdavis@beeble.omahug.org (Thomas Davis) writes: >Anyone know of a fix for this? Why did it happen? The file system has >been fsck'd, many times. It comes up clean every time. I have bombed >the system, but the drives get fsck'd upon boot up everytime (in other >words, I don't the filesystems "dirty") > >Sep 18 01:21:12 beeble vmlinux: [EXT II FS 0.3c, 93/08/05, bs=1024, fs=1024, gc=59, bpg=8192, ipg=2040] >Sep 18 01:21:12 beeble vmlinux: [EXT II FS 0.3c, 93/08/05, bs=1024, fs=1024, gc=5, bpg=8192, ipg=3992] >Sep 18 01:21:12 beeble vmlinux: [EXT II FS 0.3c, 93/08/05, bs=1024, fs=1024, gc=11, bpg=8192, ipg=2032] >Sep 18 01:21:12 beeble vmlinux: Adding Swap: 16380k swap-space >Sep 18 18:14:39 beeble vmlinux: ext2_new_block: Unable to locate free bit in block group 10. >Sep 18 18:14:40 beeble vmlinux: ext2_new_block: Unable to locate free bit in block group 10. >Sep 18 18:15:16 beeble last message repeated 329 times >Sep 18 18:16:51 beeble last message repeated 2 times >Sep 18 18:19:06 beeble vmlinux: [EXT II FS 0.3c, 93/08/05, bs=1024, fs=1024, gc=11, bpg=8192, ipg=2032] >Sep 18 18:19:22 beeble vmlinux: ext2_new_block: Unable to locate free bit in block group 10. >Sep 18 18:20:56 beeble vmlinux: [EXT II FS 0.3c, 93/08/05, bs=1024, fs=1024, gc=11, bpg=8192, ipg=2032] >Sep 18 18:21:25 beeble vmlinux: ext2_new_block: Unable to locate free bit in block group 10. >Sep 18 18:21:41 beeble vmlinux: ext2_new_block: Unable to locate free bit in block group 10. >Sep 18 18:22:30 beeble vmlinux: ext2_new_block: Unable to locate free bit in block group 10. >Sep 18 18:27:14 beeble vmlinux: ext2_new_block: Unable to locate free bit in block group 10. >Sep 18 18:55:05 beeble vmlinux: ext2_new_block: Unable to locate free bit in block group 10. > > I'm having the same problem. Someone emailed me, that I should get the new stuff for ext2fs. e2fsck repaired an error that the prior e2fsck didn't recognize. I'll try this, but this f*****g tel-line is always busy ... :-) Ciao... Alex. -- Alexander Otterbein, Lindenweg 20, 36137 Grossenlueder-Mues -> prale@prale.rhoen.sub.org -> otti@bht-box.zer.de -> FIDO : 2:248/158.5 ------------------------------ From: sweeney@$TIN_DOMAIN (Patrick Sweeney) Subject: Re: term Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 19:36:29 GMT Kenneth H. Simpson (ken@kronos.arc.nasa.gov) wrote: >Where can I find the source for the program > term Look on tartarus.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.3] in /pub/oreillym/term. -- - pat pjs@kodak.com ------------------------------ From: neal@delphi.glendon.yorku.ca (Neal Stephenson) Subject: rdump and rrestore anyone? Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 20:47:17 GMT hi, has anyone ported rdump or rrestore to linux? I wouldn't mind being able to backup to out central backup servers.... Neal. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Neal Stephenson: neal@delphi.glendon.yorku.ca (home machine) "he's not as smart as he thinks is, but that's not saying much" - me about me - delphi is 486/33 running linux .99pl10 & net-2. Beat the system use Linux ------------------------------ From: jgulla@world.std.com (Jerry Gulla) Subject: Re: AHA1542c Compatible with Linux??? Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 17:13:05 GMT >>> I've looked on the hardware compat list and it only lists the 1542 and 1542B. >>> Does anybody know if the C is compatible? I already went through purchasing >>> I have a 1542C hooked up to a 1 Gig SCSI-2 drive; no problems with Linux. Jerry Gulla jgulla@world.std.com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Development-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.development) via: Internet: Linux-Development@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Development Digest ******************************