From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Fri, 8 Oct 93 06:13:25 EDT Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #94 Linux-Admin Digest #94, Volume #1 Fri, 8 Oct 93 06:13:25 EDT Contents: Re: smail (Vince Skahan) Re: 3.5 boot floppies. Not really Re: [Not] enough SLS bashing anymore (David Kastrup) NFS performance Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin (Markus Storm) Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin (Olaf Frommann) SLIP woes ... Can't Login (Noahal A. Mundt) Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin (Michael Will) Re: Can't mount remote NFS on HP9000 (Alan Cox) Re: Elite16 software setup details? (Adrian Ho) Smail saves /usr/spool/mail/ as rw-rw---- (Matthew C. Mead) [HELP] ANSI 3.64 terminfo broken (Yves LACHANCE) Anybody used an ISA memory card with Linux? (Eduardo Kaftanski) Re: Bootdisk made by SLS install hangs during boot (Ernst Niebur) Re: Smail saves /usr/spool/mail/ as rw-rw---- (Patrick J. Volkerding) International Software (Bowyer Jeff) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vince@victrola.wa.com (Vince Skahan) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help Subject: Re: smail Date: 7 Oct 1993 17:25:38 -0700 skn@engr.ucf.edu (Steve Nunez) writes: >Would someone who has successfully compiled smail-3.1.28 please send me >some email? I've been trying to compile this program for about 4 days >now but without success. I am running into a problem with the depend >bombing out with a X_CC_X: command not found error. I've traced down >what I think is the problem, but don't know how to fix it. Prehaps >someone could send me their EDITME file? I'm using the 0.99.12+ tamu >distribution. I tried mailing the maintainer (Dave Safford) but am >not sure the address is correct, as I've not received a reply. >The EDITME from tamu also bombed out with the same error. *Any* help >with this would be most appreciated. add a line with CASE_NO_NEWLINES=true in your os/linux file -- ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.wa.com ------------- This your brain on Phillies baseball - get the picture ??? ------------------------------ From: dak@hathi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (David Kastrup) Subject: Re: 3.5 boot floppies. Not really Re: [Not] enough SLS bashing anymore Date: 8 Oct 1993 07:19:46 GMT matt@krikkit1.apana.org.au (Matt McLeod) writes: >Alex Freed (freed@europa.orion.adobe.com) wrote: >: Bill C. Riemers writes: >: 3. Standard 5.25HD/DS disks will normally still have a few bad sectors >: when formated this way. (The boot disk can't have any errors!) >: Again, I didn't test ALL 5.25" drives, but I never had bad sector this way. >Hm. I'm quite sure that if I can format 360k disks to 800k without any >problems, then 1.2M disks should be able to cope with being formatted to >1.44... What do they have to do with each other? Anyway, 360k disks are certified one-sided. If the second side works as well, this is not so very much surprising, since it has the same surface, just not certified. So the leap really is 720k to 800k, which is just 11% more. From 1.2 to 1.44 is 20% more. The main problem here is supposedly not as much the media, but the precision of the drive's speed. If the inter-record gaps are so small, it might easily happen that a) The sectors do not always fit on one revolution (formatting fails) b) Writing one sector will affect the header of the next. This is pretty bad, since it leads to bad sectors which can not even be checked for with verify, since the sectors going bad are not the ones being written. Note again, the limits are *not* the quality of the media, but the drive's speed. If, as one poster wrote, the disks are getting worse and worse, then obviously the gaps are too small, definitely! Storing data on such disks is playing with fire. You might use it to send software to someone, but not before verifying the whole disk in one procedure, and write-protecting it. A write in another drive is certain to destroy it if the other drive's speed is just marginally higher. -- David Kastrup dak@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Tel: +49-241-72419 Fax: +49-241-79502 Goethestr. 20, D-52064 Aachen ------------------------------ From: perkel@slice () Subject: NFS performance Date: 8 Oct 1993 07:29:11 GMT Has anyone had success improving the NFS performance by tweaking parameters in /etc/fstab (or elsewhere)? I have excellent file-transfer rates (Linux to Sparc and vice versa) via ftp, but unusably slow NFS performance (>10 sec to do 'ls' on a small directory, not to mention copying). Sparc-to-Sparc NFS links on the same network work very well, so I suspect the Linux machine. Anybody have any experience/ideas? Thanks in advance, David Perkel perkel@slice.bbb.caltech.edu Division of Biology Caltech ------------------------------ From: storm@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Storm) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin Date: 8 Oct 1993 09:42:14 GMT Reply-To: storm@uni-paderborn.de In article <291cls$efd@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>, will@linus (Michael Will) writes: |> Yes, but there is still one major problem. We have to separate the |> functionality from the user-interface, because we cannot use X alone. |> To many users do not use X because of lack of memory - these are most |> likely to be happy to use such a tool like we want to write. |> I think we have to provide a curses-interface as well - how this can |> be done we should discuss. Yes, that would also ease porting it (I already think of porting it to our SUNs, - as most of the functionality probably isn't Linux-specific - though not a single line of code has been written ;-) ). And usually noone owns the "commercial" OI/UIB. |> My thinking is like: use virtual-functions (late binding) to have the objects |> communicate with the user with the apropriate methods for the selected |> user-interface. The best way to do this. Though UIB is quite simple too use, doing subclassing needs further documentation than supplied on-line (at least I had some problems). So "C" programmers can supply functions code without working into OI. |> Maybe we should create a mail-channel for this topic? If enough users |> and developers are interested... Yes. There's too much functionality needed than a single programmer can supply. |> Cheers, Michael Will More Cheers, Markus Storm ------------------------------ From: sm1of@tuhhco.rz.tu-harburg.de (Olaf Frommann) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin Date: 8 Oct 93 09:18:39 GMT In article <291fir$efd@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>, will@linus (Michael Will) writes: | Mhm, now that I read just another load of follow-ups, I think it would be | good to create a language as someone proposed. | | This would describe screens, and actions, acting on curses and X in the | same script... | Do you know wxWindows? It does just that, is a C++ wrapper for XVIEW, MOTIF and MS-WINDOWS *AND* a CURSES version is promised. One source for several environments. | The advantage is clear: many users can contribute their configuration- | scripts and do not have to bother to much with the userinterface. | Absolutely true. | | Cheers, Michael Will - away for a week - sorry. CIAO, Olaf. -- Olaf Frommann, PHONE: +49 40 7718-2942 TU Hamburg-Harburg, FAX : +49 40 7718-2573 Arbeitsbereich Stroemungsmechanik I e-mail: Frommann@tu-harburg.d400.de ------------------------------ From: nam@ccd.harris.com (Noahal A. Mundt) Subject: SLIP woes ... Can't Login Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 18:25:34 GMT Hello Fellow Slip Users: I am having the following problem when I attempt to login after getting attached to my local SLIP server from my Linux box running 0.99 pl12. I can attach fine and ping works perfect. I can even telnet to machines via our router, but I cannot get past the password prompt. I get the login prompt - I enter my login, then the password prompt - I enter my password, then I wait and wait and wait ... forever! I CAN anonymous ftp without a problem, but an ftp which needs a password also hangs. Argh! Has anyone seen this problem? Thanks in advance for any help. Regards, Noahal Mundt - System Administration - Harris Controls Division ============================================================================= | "A good magician never reveals his secret; the unbelievable trick becomes | | simple and obvious once it is explained. So too with UNIX." | ============================================================================= | INTERNET: nam@ccd.harris.com - Phone: (407) 242-5459 fax (407) 242-4453 | ============================================================================= ------------------------------ From: will@linus (Michael Will) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin Date: 7 Oct 1993 16:19:39 GMT Reply-To: will@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Mhm, now that I read just another load of follow-ups, I think it would be good to create a language as someone proposed. This would describe screens, and actions, acting on curses and X in the same script... The advantage is clear: many users can contribute their configuration- scripts and do not have to bother to much with the userinterface. Only - this I think I cannot do - it is to big a task. If someone can do such a great thing, I think I would retreat to using the language creating some scripts - if not, I think we should stick to the OI/uib-stuff. While xview is nice, I think OI is much more real ObjectOriented - and it is more easy to provide two userinterfaces using the same functionalitycode with true objects... Cheers, Michael Will - away for a week - sorry. ------------------------------ From: iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox) Subject: Re: Can't mount remote NFS on HP9000 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 16:18:27 GMT In article <28s47u$125t@cass.ma02.bull.com> remisosk@myhost.subdomain.domain (Tom Remisoski) writes: >Hi, > > I am trying to mount a remote directory on a HP9000 running HP-UX 8.02 >to my Linux machine. I keep getting > "rpc mount: RPC Authentication Error: why = Invalid client credential". root is in more than 8 groups. The old NFS spec didnt permit this. Take root from a few groups and it will be fine. Alan PS: Fix your news headers you are nto username@myhost.subdomain.domain nor is your organization 'Put your organization string here'. Alan ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development From: scornd9@solomon.technet.sg (Adrian Ho) Subject: Re: Elite16 software setup details? Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 15:28:04 GMT I asked: : Does anyone have the details of software config for the Elite 16? : Better still, has anyone written a config program under Linux? Thanks to jjctc@chevron.com (James C. Tsiao) for pointing out that SLS comes with the program "wdsetup", which emulates SMC's own setup program. If you can't find it, it's also available at: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/system/Network/drivers/wdsetup-0.6.tar.z -- - Adrian Ho scornd9@solomon.technet.sg ------------------------------ From: mmead@slapshot.async.vt.edu (Matthew C. Mead) Subject: Smail saves /usr/spool/mail/ as rw-rw---- Date: 7 Oct 1993 19:13:28 GMT Currently I am using the Smail binary from sunsite, and have noticed that when it saves files into /usr/spool/mail it saves them with the permissions rw-rw----, allowing members of the same group to read each other's mail if they so desire. Is there a way easier than rebuilding Smail to fix this? Matt ------------------------------ From: yveslach@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Yves LACHANCE) Subject: [HELP] ANSI 3.64 terminfo broken Date: 7 Oct 1993 20:11:45 GMT [ Article crossposted from comp.unix.wizards ] [ Author was Yves LACHANCE (yveslach@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca) ] [ Posted on 7 Oct 1993 20:09:59 GMT ] I have the following terminfo I built using the ANSI Standard (X3.64) Control Sequences for Video Terminals and Peripherals with Examples for the IBM PC document, compiled by W.C. Parke (1986). (Derived from the ANSI X3.64-1979 specifications.) ansi|ansipc|dosemu|ANSI Standard X3.64 - 1986, bw, am, xenl, cols#80, it#8, lines#24, cbt=\E[%p1%dZ, bel=^G, cr=\r, tbc=\e[%p1%dg, clear=\E[H\E[2J, el=\E[K, ed=\E[%p1%dJ, hpa=\E[%i%p1%d`, cup=\E[%i%p1%d;%p2%dH, cud1=\E[B, home=\E[H, cub1=\E[D, cuf1=\E[C, cuu1=\E[A, dch1=\E[P, dl1=\E[M, blink=\E[5m, bold=\E[1m, rev=\E[7m, invis=\E[8m, smso=\E[7m, smul=\E[4m, ech=\E[%p1%dX, sgr0=\E[m, rmso=\E[m, rmul=\E[m, is2=\E[m\E[2J\E[24;1H, ich1=\E[@, il1=\E[L, kbs=\b, kdch1=\157, kdl1=^y, kcud1=\E[B, kel=^k, kf0=^f0, kf1=^f1, kf2=^f2, kf3=^f3, kf4=^f4, kf5=^f5, kf6=^f6, kf7=^f7, kf8=^f8, kf9=^f9, kf10=^f0, khome=\E[H, kich1=^t, kil1=^n, kcub1=\E[D, knp=^v, kpp=\EV, kcuf1=\E[C, kcuu1=\E[A, dch=\E[%p1%dP, dl=\E[%p1%dM, cud=\E[%p1%dB, ich=\E[%p1%d@, il=\E[%p1%dL, cub=\E[%p1%dD, cuf=\E[%p1%dC, cuu=\E[%p1%dA, rc=\E[u, vpa=\E[%i%p1%dd, sc=\E[s, ind=\ED, ri=\EM, ht=^i, This is for Linux, but these things are fairly standard. The problems I have with this definition are: 1) Using the left arrow erases the characters on the screen, yet, if I do a screen refresh, they are printed back. (They are not erased in the documented, a space just seems to be printed over it.) 2) My reverse (or so it seems to be) is not continuous. Spaces between the words are black. Another example is the hanoi shipping with the ncurses package; it doesn't print the rings. (Though I figured this might be a color problem since the program is trying to use different colors for each ring.) Is there anyone that can find out what might be wrong with the above entry? It is possible that Linux' curses be broken... Yves Lachance. ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help From: ekaftan@tolten.puc.cl (Eduardo Kaftanski) Subject: Anybody used an ISA memory card with Linux? Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 21:33:38 GMT I have tried with absolutely no success to use an Everex 159 memory card with Linux. I got all kinds of Memory Fault errors, although I could use the card with DOS with no problem. I had Checkit test the board for a pair of hours with no errors... so at least it is not its fault I guess. Anyway, I read about the Speed path for memory refresh times, and thought maybe I could change some value in my kernel to sacrifice some speed for RAM. Can anybody elaborate a little bit on this? I have not enough knowledge in PC hardware to know what I'm doing in this area. Thanks for any answer... -- Eduardo Kaftanski ekaftan@tolten.puc.cl ekaftan@ing.puc.cl ------------------------------ From: ernst@isis.klab.caltech.edu (Ernst Niebur) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help Subject: Re: Bootdisk made by SLS install hangs during boot Date: 7 Oct 1993 22:38:20 GMT In article frank@manua.gsfc.nasa.gov (Frank Chen) writes: >Same thing happened to me on a Laptop 386SX. >.... Hm, I was convinced that I made a stupid beginner's mistake, but maybe for once it is NOT me. My boot disk made by SLS does not work, either. I just installed the last version of SLS ("0.99.12 #6 from August 10") and my boot floppy (made at the end of the installation menu) stops right after saying "Press to see SVGA modes available, to continue or wait 30 secs I waited for a LONG time (several minutes) but nothing happened. I also tried to make a boot disk by the method described in the "Installation Guide" book (great book, btw!), but this did not work, either. For the record, I did the following (being root in /): rdev zImage /dev/hda2 # ( I have a zImage in / ) mke2fs /dev/fd0 1440 mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy # I created a directory /floppy previously, cp /zImage /dev/fd0 # although it does not seem to be used here unmount /dev/fd0 This stopped with Uncompressing Linux... invalid compressed format -- System halted I can boot the system by using the a1.3 disk, then booting in LILO from /dev/hda2. Can anybody tell me how I can make a floppy on which I can boot? Thanks a lot! --Ernst -- Ernst Niebur Phone (818)395 2880 Computation and Neural Systems Fax (818)796 8876 Caltech 139-74 ernst@caltech.edu Pasadena, CA 91125, USA ernst@caltech.bitnet ------------------------------ From: bf703@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Patrick J. Volkerding) Subject: Re: Smail saves /usr/spool/mail/ as rw-rw---- Date: 8 Oct 1993 01:19:24 GMT Reply-To: bf703@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Patrick J. Volkerding) In a previous article, mmead@slapshot.async.vt.edu (Matthew C. Mead) says: > > Currently I am using the Smail binary from sunsite, and have noticed >that when it saves files into /usr/spool/mail it saves them with the >permissions rw-rw----, allowing members of the same group to read each other's >mail if they so desire. Is there a way easier than rebuilding Smail to fix >this? > Doesn't it set all of these mailboxes to group "mail"? Unless Smail is using the user's groups (which it shouldn't) there's no problem with rw-rw----. -- Patrick Volkerding volkerdi@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu bf703@cleveland.freenet.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 22:02:55 MET From: jbowyer@rhino.cis.vutbr.cz (Bowyer Jeff) Crossposted-To: comp.databases.xbase.misc,comp.graphics.algorithms,comp.graphics.data-explorer,comp.os.geos,comp.os Subject: International Software Please share your expertise with our mailing list. 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