From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 16:13:36 EDT Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #60 Linux-Admin Digest #60, Volume #1 Wed, 15 Sep 93 16:13:36 EDT Contents: Re: Slackware 1.0.2 & NET-2? (Jon Tombs) Want to add swap and repartition (Raghunath K. Rao) Re: [Summary] /etc/shutdown by non-root (Brian Stempien) Re: Enough SLS bashing (Re: Install on a ARC Pentium) (James Moss) Re: Enough SLS bashing (Re: Install on a ARC Pentium) (James Moss) Ethernet to a Mac (Jawaid Bazyar) Re: Install on a ARC Pentium (Thomas KIRCHTAG) Re: Slackware 1.0.2 & NET-2? (Helmut Geyer) Re: Slackware 1.0.2 & NET-2? (PERUCCI, PHILIP A.) Re: Ethernet to a Mac (Olaf Titz) Re: Long shadow passwords less secure than normal ones? (Detlef Lannert) Re: SLS 1.03 networking (J. Scott Farrow) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon@robots.ox.ac.uk (Jon Tombs) Subject: Re: Slackware 1.0.2 & NET-2? Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 21:55:39 GMT In article SSB1PZP@imcvms.med.navy.mil (PERUCCI, PHILIP A.) writes: >In SSB1PZP@imcvms.med.navy.mil writes: > >> I just installed Slackware 1.0.2 under the OS/2 bootmanager. >> NO PROBLEMS!!! >> >> Now, though, which method should be used for configuring TCP/IP? >> The standard NET-2 configuration method as described in the >> NET-2 "howto" or does Slackware have its own method? >> > >Well, I went ahead with the NET-2 "howto". I get the same "network not >found" messages as with SLS v1.03. > >Question: What is a good, recent version of the kernel source which will > work with the NET-2? I would like to compile my own kernel > and install NET-2 again. What NET-2 are we talking about here? If you mean the the NET-2 as in the linux kernel pl9-pl12 then the NET-2 "howto" should give you all the correct answers. If you mean the ALPHA NET-2e4 then things are a little different. If you want a very simple way to test that you are doing nothing wrong, you can try my network boot/root disk. They are on ftp.robots.ox.ac.uk in /pub/linux/ox-usr/rootdisk/ current versions are boot-0.99.pl12.gz and root-0.99.pl12.gz See the README in that directory. This rootdisk will "self configure" on the initial boot up by asking you the approriate questions. I also have a version NET-2e4. But I don't think NET-2e4 is anywhere near stable enough to give to poeple having problems with the current kernel. Jon. ------------------------------ From: thssrkr@iitmax.iit.edu (Raghunath K. Rao) Subject: Want to add swap and repartition Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 23:06:26 GMT As the header says, I need to add a swap partition (though I have 16MB!) since some jobs dont run simultaneously with X on my 486 (SLS1.02). I also want to repartition my hard disk (reduce the DOS and increase /user1 and so on...) . Can someone let me know the best way to handle this? I have a lot of users and need to minimize down time and retain all the accounts and configuration! And please give me details on how to add the swap space. Any disadvantages in doing this? Thanks in advance. Raghu ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin From: stempien@cs.wmich.edu (Brian Stempien) Subject: Re: [Summary] /etc/shutdown by non-root Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 00:08:13 GMT The method that I use is a program called doas. The source is in source/usr.bin I think on tsx-11. It basically sets up a control list in which you place user:program pairs. This is a way to give limit root privs to select users. Of course you have to trust the program to do the right thing..... -- Brian Stempien Western Michigan University Email: stempien@cs.wmich.edu Voice: (616)-387-5848 ------------------------------ From: moss@cs.scarolina.edu (James Moss) Subject: Re: Enough SLS bashing (Re: Install on a ARC Pentium) Date: 15 Sep 93 01:23:17 GMT Everybody complains about SLS, and I will admit that it has its problems. I know because I have now put two different versions on my machine, but when dealing with an operating system that is is new as this one, and still in alpha, you should at least know how to control the thing. I have learned more about Unix operating systems trying to fix mine than I have learned in four different classes that employed unix for one thing or another. I clap for SLS for making me learn in depth the operating system that I have decided to run on my computer. jim -- James Moss University of South Carolina | "Linux is cool." moss@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu | ===============================================| "Yea! He=he=he" Blessed Be: Pagan not by birth but by thought | ------------------------------ From: moss@cs.scarolina.edu (James Moss) Subject: Re: Enough SLS bashing (Re: Install on a ARC Pentium) Date: 15 Sep 93 01:37:36 GMT Well even though I don't have a major problem with SLS at the moment, I should state that when I went to get the newest release(1.03?) I wound up using an old boot/root disk, and then installing all the new stuff with that rather than with the new boot/root disk. The new root/boot disk could for some reason not set up a ramdrive... go figure. jim -- James Moss University of South Carolina | "Linux is cool." moss@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu | ===============================================| "Yea! He=he=he" Blessed Be: Pagan not by birth but by thought | ------------------------------ From: bazyar@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Jawaid Bazyar) Subject: Ethernet to a Mac Date: 15 Sep 1993 05:48:43 GMT I just set up a linux box on a small ethernet with a Mac running NCSA Telnet.. everything went very smoothly (learning all the damn configuration files is the hard part). Anyway, a tip to anyone doing the same: make sure the Mac's IP address is in the /etc/hosts file, or it will take around 2 minutes to get a login prompt after opening the connection. I assume the linux machine was trying to resolve the name via an external nameserver. -- Jawaid Bazyar | Like UNIX? Like your Apple IIGS? Then ask Procyon, Inc. | me about GNO/ME for the Apple IIgs! bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu | P.O Box 620334 --Apple II Forever!-- | Littleton, CO 80162-0334 (303) 781-3273 ------------------------------ From: tkircht@email.tuwien.ac.at (Thomas KIRCHTAG) Subject: Re: Install on a ARC Pentium Date: 15 Sep 1993 09:41:44 GMT Arno Strittmatter (stm@spatzi.rni.sub.org) wrote: : Hello : I tryed to install Linux 99pl12 SLS 1.03 on an ARC Pentium System : it did not work! The Bord was a combitype EISA / VLB, 1542C 32MB RAM : It hanged at boottime after that line whis trying Alib.... I had the same problems with a simple 386/40 (plus a few extensions). SLS detected at least 3 different soundcards ( I have none) and died a silent death. I tried MCC and had a complete UNIX-System running within 2 hours. And that was the first UNIX I ever installed! Good luck (It's worth the sweat) Thomas tkircht@email.tuwien.ac.at ------------------------------ From: geyer@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Helmut Geyer) Subject: Re: Slackware 1.0.2 & NET-2? Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 10:40:57 GMT PERUCCI, PHILIP A. (SSB1PZP@imcvms.med.navy.mil) wrote: :>In SSB1PZP@imcvms.med.navy.mil writes: :>> I just installed Slackware 1.0.2 under the OS/2 bootmanager. :>> NO PROBLEMS!!! :>> :>> Now, though, which method should be used for configuring TCP/IP? :>> The standard NET-2 configuration method as described in the :>> NET-2 "howto" or does Slackware have its own method? :>> :>Well, I went ahead with the NET-2 "howto". I get the same "network not :>found" messages as with SLS v1.03. I had this problem, too, with the NET-2-HOWTO. The problem was that I got the network up and running, but if I (as mentioned in the HOWTO) routed the localhost in rc.inet1, route will complain about network unreachable. As this does not to be a) needed (all works correct) b) working this should be revised in the HOWTO. The line #567 of the HOWTO : /etc/route add ${IPADDR} is the cause of this error :>Question: What is a good, recent version of the kernel source which will :> work with the NET-2? I would like to compile my own kernel :> and install NET-2 again. Helmut ============================================================================== Helmut Geyer geyer@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de ------------------------------ From: SSB1PZP@imcvms.med.navy.mil (PERUCCI, PHILIP A.) Subject: Re: Slackware 1.0.2 & NET-2? Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 10:16:56 GMT In <1993Sep14.153913.27085@cc.gatech.edu> byron@cc.gatech.edu writes: > In article , > PERUCCI, PHILIP A. wrote: > >I just installed Slackware 1.0.2 under the OS/2 bootmanager. > >NO PROBLEMS!!! > > > >Now, though, which method should be used for configuring TCP/IP? > >The standard NET-2 configuration method as described in the > >NET-2 "howto" or does Slackware have its own method? > > Uncomment and edit the lines in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1. When you reboot the > net config is set up properly. Patrick has done a nice job with net setup. > He sure did! I went back and configured for a class B address instead of a class C address and am now happily on-line!!! All hail Linux! =========================================================================== Phil Perucci, Systems Programmer | "I don't speak for any organization ssb1pzp@imcvms.med.navy.mil | and no organization speaks for me" =========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: uknf@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Olaf Titz) Subject: Re: Ethernet to a Mac Date: 15 Sep 1993 12:34:02 GMT In article <276abr$7g9@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Jawaid Bazyar wrote: > Anyway, a tip to anyone doing the same: make sure the Mac's IP > address is in the /etc/hosts file, or it will take around 2 > minutes to get a login prompt after opening the connection. > I assume the linux machine was trying to resolve the name via an > external nameserver. Assume? There are only these two ways to get the name, or do you already have the alpha telepathy driver working? :-) Seriously, you seem to have a slow or overloaded DNS or network leading to it, in which case it's best to list the most frequently used hosts in /etc/hosts anyway. And look at both the Mac and the Linux box which nameserver they are using - perhaps it's one far away, in which case you should change the setup. Olaf -- olaf titz o olaf@bigred.ka.sub.org praetorius@irc comp.sc.student _>\ _ s_titz@ira.uka.de LINUX - the choice karlsruhe germany (_)<(_) uknf@dkauni2.bitnet of a GNU generation what good is a photograph of you? everytime i look at it it makes me feel blue ------------------------------ From: TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert) Subject: Re: Long shadow passwords less secure than normal ones? Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 15:17:31 GMT In article <1993Sep7.132429.14207@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann) writes: [...] >> ThisIsAV >> eryLongA >> ndGoodPa >> ssword >> -------- (XOR characters in the same column). >> XXXXXXXX (Crypt this value) > >This is a Bad Thing. [convincing explanation of why it's a Bad Thing deleted for brevity] > >I'll repeat again what I said in a previous message, if you're going to make >an incompatible change you may as well use a secure algorithm like MD5 or >SHS to do it. If the hashed (long) password is to be encrypted anyway, then the hash algorithm need not be cryptographically secure; an easier (and faster) algorithm than MD5 or SHA might do as well (like the one by Pearson published in CACM June 1990, pp 677-680; I posted a C source to sci.crypt a few weeks ago). In this case there would be no incompatibility: Short passwords (<= 8 chars) are encrypted as before; any longer password is hashed down to 8 bytes and encrypted in the same way. Thus a long password (or passphrase) is a substitute for some weird 8-byte string which would be hard to remember (and near impossible to type in!). -- Detlef Lannert DC3EK E-Mail: tsos@rz.uni-duesseldorf.de PGP 2.x key available (finger lannert@clio.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de) Die Mathematiker sind eine Art Franzosen: Redet man zu ihnen, so uebersetzen sie es in ihre Sprache, und dann ist es alsobald ganz etwas anderes. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe ------------------------------ From: farrow@spot.Colorado.EDU (J. Scott Farrow) Subject: Re: SLS 1.03 networking Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 00:59:36 GMT daved@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au (Dave Davey) writes: >I found that in the SLS 1.03 distribution /etc/rhosts, the code: > if [ "$IPADDR" != "" ]; then > if [ "" != "$ROUTER" ]; then > ROUTERPARM="gw $ROUTER"; > fi >set up ROUTERPARM if the router line was uncommented in /etc/hosts, >but ROUTERPARM was never used. Adding: > route add default $ROUTERPARM >after > route add $NET $IPDEV >seemed to fix the problem. Ditto. That change fixed all my problems with networking in SLS 1.03. Scott -- J. Scott Farrow UNIX/VAX Technical Support Martin Marietta - DOE/Western Area Power Administration, Golden, CO USA farrow@a1402sun.hq.wapa.gov (192.147.242.22), farrow@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Admin-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via: Internet: Linux-Admin@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Admin Digest ******************************