From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Wed, 8 Sep 93 00:02:51 EDT Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #40 Linux-Admin Digest #40, Volume #1 Wed, 8 Sep 93 00:02:51 EDT Contents: POLL RESULTS, PART 1/7 (Matthew Dillon) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dillon@moonshot.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development Subject: POLL RESULTS, PART 1/7 Date: 7 Sep 1993 18:44:21 -0700 ====================== BASE HARDWARE ===================== BRAND CPU FP MEM $$$$ BUS LO PORT ? 486DX2/66 ? 16MB ? EISA Yes No ( "Alexis", which seems to be a 486DX33 (inc The $2K for ? ISA hard PROBS No problems at all. Except I bought a $10 mouse, and it wouldn't BRDS You could see NCA ads. They have been selling this "Alexis 433VL" - ? y 8mb ? isa n n PROBS after my first try, all worked fine BRDS when i putchased it a few years ago, i had to pay 6000DM (~4000$) (now i would pay no more then 1500$); 3 x Unknown (cheap) ? Yes. 16 M 1200 pou ISA NO NO PROBS None. Just plug in the boards. BRDS ET4000, HD, Floppy, Serial, etc. 3COM ether card, WD ether card, National Semi Ether card a clone house special 486DX33 n/a 8M $1800 ? Y N PROBS Absolutely none. BRDS System came as a 486DX33 8M 170M IDE, ET-4000 chipset SVGA board, SVGA monitor, two floppies. Package price: $1800 in February. Now it is more like $1500 AIR ? Y 8 me $3000 CD ISA yes no PROBS none BRDS Cirrus Logic 5426 VLB video board VLB IDE controller board ala carte, AIR motherboard 486DX2/66 DX 32Mb $6000 ISA YES NO PROBS Kernel hangs during boot unless CD-ROM is unplugged. BRDS $3000 Diamond Stealth 24 VLB 1Mb (bought before I learned that these guys are puck-heads that don't release technical info with a NDAgreement) UltraStor 34F WangTek 5525ES SCSI QIC Tape Drive Toshiba XM-3101BME SCSI CD-ROM Drive ProAudio Spectrum 16 TurboModem (V.32bis) AMD? i think so -- it's a hom 486 dx2/66 n 8meg $1100, n isa yes, no PROBS none American MegaTrend 486dx33 VLB N 4 me $2100 ? Y N PROBS Had to fool around with dip switches to get the 2.88 drive to format properly and had to switch the game adaptor cable around to get the joystick to work BRDS $2100 b4 tax 2 serial, 1 parallel, 1 game 14.4k modem 2.88 drive AMG (American Micro Group) 486DX/50 incl 16Mb $5.5k EISA no no PROBS EISA config required jumping in/out of DOS. All config programs had to run from DOS. Difficult time finding all probe addresses to make sure new hardware wasn't in the line of fire. BRDS $4600 for board, box, kbd, serial, parallel, floppies [SCSI, disk, video, net are extra] AmPaq 486DX/33 Buil 8MB $2300 (C ISA No No PROBS I have an ATI Wonder XL VGA card with a bus mouse. I needed to hack the driver to accept it on IRQ 2 and I had to make some fixes to the driver for it to work correctly. BRDS Base system (486/33, 128k cache, 4MB RAM, ATI XL w/mouse, multi-io board (2 serial, 1 parallel, IDE/floppy controller), 120MB Seagate hard drive, both floppies, keytronics keyboard: $1900 (Canadian funds). Apricot XEN-i 386/100 (Don't l 386/16 Y Don' Was abou ISA N N BRDS 100M RLL Drive (Maxtor 5 1/4) ET3000 Eizo Vidoe Board ASA 486DX2/66 buil 16MB $3500 ISA yes no PROBS Linux (from SLS 1.01) sometimes does not boot at 66MHz when machine has been operated for > 30 minutes (machine warm?). 33MHz always boots fine. BRDS $3500, includes: 2MB Ati Ultra Pro, 2S 1P local bus IDE controller Assembled from parts (pell) 486DLC3 (bot (pel (pell) $ (bot (bot (bot PROBS No problems. Assembled myself,AMI Enterpris 486DX2/66 Y 36MB Forgot EISA EISA No PROBS Adaptec card 1542b doesn't work at 6.7MB/s, setting at 5.7MB/s BRDS Difficult to say. Since I did a motherboard upgrade from the original machine. m/b costed USD1300, memory USD1300, Hard disk USD1100, Grphics card $USD250, misc I/O card, chassis, keybd, powersupply, subtotal USD350. Monitor USD$700, Tape drive USD400, H/d controller Atman (aka EMPaC) 486DX/25 Y 4M $2500 (2 ISA N N PROBS None except for X. My original video card was a Trident 8900B which was not supported. Now I use an ATI GU and the X8514 with no problems. BRDS Trident 8900B Basic OEM IO card (MIO-16) IDE, Floppy, 2 RS-232s, Printer, Game I have never used the printer or game ports with Linux. Conner 30104 120M $2500 2 years ago Auva 486DX/33 Hmmm 8MB $3000 (w <- w No. No. PROBS None, except finding out that some of my 3.5"s were bad. BRDS $1500.00 Bast 386dx/33 Y 2 MB $ 700 ISA N N PROBS no problems built from separate pieces AMD 386DX-40 Y Cy 0 k hard to ISA nope no PROBS no problems Can't remember 486DX/50 Y 4meg $AUS2200 ISA N N PROBS None. BRDS Std. 2s1p1g port BRAND CPU FP MEM $$$$ BUS LO PORT Centrix 486DX/50 Buil 16MB $4000.00 ISA Yes No PROBS Nothing really, just getting the PAS 16, Ethernet Card and extra serial port IRQ/Base Address to work smoothly (easy). BRDS My system is 1.75 years old and price would be irrelevant here. But if one must know, the system was $4000.00. Chicony (AT-clone) 386-40 N 8 me 3500 $ c ISA no no PROBS none BRDS 340 Megs Maxtor IDE driver with IDE interface card. Trident 8900C 2250 $ Can. Cistron (own brand :-) ? buil 16Mb $4000 ISA Yes No PROBS something weird with scsi termination being non-standard (multiple terminations) Clone 486DX/33 N 4 Mb $2000 wi ? No No PROBS No hardware problems. Clone 486 DX2/50 just 16 M ? EISA No No PROBS None. BRDS Purchased _all_ pieces separately - don't remember prices. clone 386DX/33 (AMD) Y 16 M $2000 (c ISA no no PROBS none BRDS $1200 IDE controller, basic SVGA, I/O (2 port, printer) clone ? N 5M ? ISA yes no Clone (local store) 486DX/33 Y 8M ( for curr (ISA N N PROBS None. BRDS $2700 CAN (incl.tax) (roughly $2100 US) for 486/33, 256K cache, 8M, 210M HD, ATI VGA wonder, generic IDE board, two floppies, etc. clone (umc chipset) 486dx2/66 - 16Mb +/- 3000 ? Y (v ? PROBS i had to change the irq from 11 to 12 and dma from 5 to 7 on my adaptec Clone, home assembled 486SX N 0M ( $1200 (a ISA N N PROBS I had an 8-bit ethernet card, the WD800X driver detected it as 16-bit.. this stopped startup. Solved by changing IO-address to 'strange value', then recompiling kernel with adapted eth.driver (killed detection for 16-bit). A weird HD sort of problem, see 2C. BRDS HD = Kalok 3100 (105 Mb) SVGA = Trident 8900x Ether= 8-bit WD8003 compatible Monitor = Mtek Clover 486DX/33 na 16 M $2100 ISA Yes NO PROBS I have an UltraStore 14F, and I had to change the IRQ and "mailbox" addresses (both with on board jumpers). BRDS Everything came for $2100. I'm about to add a $280 SCSI HD (383 MB) and I already had 3 others. Compaq | "NoName" 486DX33 Both Both Someone ? Hmm. Nooo PROBS On the noname (based on Hippo III motherboard) playing with the bios settings to make is go _faster_ makes it _slower_. Not related to Linux, though. Compaq 325/e 386dx Y 4Mb ? ISA N N Compaq Prolinea 486DX2/66 NA ( 8mb $2200 ISA Yes No PROBS None, but I have not made X work yet. BRDS $2200 Comptech AMD386DX-40 N 4 Me $1500 ba ISA N N PROBS None what so ever. BRDS $1800 (1991) - Trident TVGA8900C 1-Meg, Western Digital WD280 80 Meg IDE HD, Generic 2S/1P/1J I/O card, Generic IDE/Floppy controller. Compudyne 486DX2/66 ? 4MB $2,700 ( ? ? ? BRDS $2,700 (US) -IDE controller, trucolor video, 4MB memory 270 MB disk Compudyne 486/33 Y 4M $1500.00 ISA no no PROBS none, yet. BRDS $1500.00 for SCSI disk, cables, external cabnet, controler $1500.00 for box, 4M memory, I/O card, 3.5" and 5.25" disk VGA adaptor and monitor, mouse. $600.00 for extra 16M of memory. Compudyne Notebook---Twinhead ? Y, i 4M, $2000-$2 ? N Y PROBS ps/2 trackball requires initialization: with too high a sample rate the mouse pointer will jump around. Probably a noise problem. Driver needed to be hacked. BRDS $2000-2200. It's a notebook, so everything is included. Computer Arts (Taiwan Inc.) Am386DX40 N 1 MB $2K (Au ISA no no PROBS DRAM delivered with motherboard was TOO SLOW. Had to disable "Video BIOS shadowing" for Xfree86 BRDS Tseng ET4000 generic AT-multi-IO Comrade ? Yes 4meg $2200 in ? yes no PROBS none BRDS $2200 w/ cheap I/O and IDE board, and a STB Powergraph VL-24 (1meg) video card. Also got a CTX 1560 15" mon. w/ digital controls. BRAND CPU FP MEM $$$$ BUS LO PORT Comtrade 486DX2/50 Y (b 8 Mb $2,700 EISA N N PROBS Trouble getting Diamond Speedstar 24X to work with XFree86. BRDS It came bundled, $2,700. 220 Mb IDE drive, Diamond Speedstar 24X Comtrade 486DX2/66 n 16M $3745 EISA Y N PROBS removed 5 1/4'' A: drive, moved 3 1/2'' to A: BRDS DTC 3292 SCSI (EISA, but running as AHA1542-compatible under Linux) Orchid Fahrenheit VLB w/2M VRAM no ethernet Conner 540M scsi-2 drive TOTAL: $3745 Comtrade ? Y(48 8 MB $2200 EISA Y N PROBS None BRDS $2200 DTC 2290 EISA IDE/floppy controller (works great!) Diamond Stealth 24 VL (works great using DS3) Cornell ? Y 8MB $2400 (i ISA Y N PROBS None. BRDS Unknown. Bundle includes Diamond Stealth Pro VLB, VLB IDE disk controller, 245MB disk, 8MB mem, 15"LR monitor, Supra 14.4k Fax/modem DOS/windows +SW bundle, tower case, dual floppy drives. Dan Technology 486DX2/66 Y (4 16Mb $3500 ISA Yes No PROBS Floppy disk errors panic the kernel S3 X-Server needed persuading to run Kernel needed patching for Soundblaster PRO CD Support BRDS System bought complete Dan Technology ADT 486DX/33 N 8Mb ? ISA N N PROBS none BRDS S3 Video controller (Orchid) 2.5Mb Cacheing controller (Promise) IO card 2s,1p,1g (the ADT is standard) Dan Vantage 486DX33 No 4 MB 1174 pou ISA Yes, No PROBS None (used SLS 1.03 - Installed Linux and ran X with no problems at all) BRDS The standard Vantage range comes with: 4MB RAM MIO-16G disk controller card MVGA-AVGA3 (CLGD 5422 based Video card) NO ethernet 3 button AGDM-210E mouse DEC (built by AST) DECpc 425SL 486SL/25MHz buil 4MB DM 3904, not no yes PROBS none BRDS DM 3904,- +15% VAT (Germany) DM 498,- +15% VAT for additional 4MB RAM DELL 486SX 25MHz Disa 4M 3,000 (1 ? Yes Hell PROBS I had no problems. Linux recognized everything as once EXECPT for the fact that I have an ATI Vantage 8514/A card, and Linux v.99p6-26 did choose proper SVGA modes for text. I also had to grab XLinux.8514 server (XScale) off of sunsite in order to get decent SVGA X. BRDS Local bus video is not tested, localbus HD was recognized without a problem. Dell 486DX2/50 (486 12M $3000 ISA No No PROBS Had to play with jumpers on WD8003 network card. Problems with serial ports (port in use, no getty running, etc). PS/2 style MS bus mouse works improperly with X for me. :-( Can't talk to Bernoulli drive (via SCSI on Adaptec card). :-( BRDS $2200 Dell 486DX/50 Y 8 $3000 EISA N N PROBS Couldn't get fdisk to partion Linux partions in the DOS extended partion (odd so I just gave up and used onlt hda[1-4] BRDS $1500 Dell 486P50 486DX2/50 ? 4M $2000 ? No No PROBS Just a few problems getting my USR sportster to work on com2... 2 dip switches and it was set. BRDS ~$2000 for 4M, 14" 1024x768I Monitor, 1M Video board (integrated on the motherboard), 240M IDE Hard drive, 5.25/3.5" combination floppy - room for one more floppy drive (3.5") - no internal hard drive bays DTK KEEN-2530 386/25 No 4MB $2150 ISA No No BRDS $2150. Included IO/HD/FD controller card and (peice-of-shit) non- standard 512K Acer M3125 VGA card. Price also included a CTX interlaced SVGA monitor (very nice), and a Panasonic KX-P1180 dot matrix printer (misfeeds all the time). Elite 486dx2/66 Y 16mb In Sheke ISA Yes No PROBS Had to adjust NE2000 clone ethernet card jumpers. SLS's a1 disk won't boot with ethernet card in. BRDS Generic Taiwan Localbus IDE controller. Generic cirrus localbus video card. Generic I/O card. Generic taiwanese NE2000 compatible ethernet card. Elonex (UK brand name) 486/66 and 486 Y N 32 1 4200 # ? Y Y N N PROBS No X windows color support for Headland HT216-32 chipset (same as Video Seven) - Dam! EPS Technologies 386/25 N 8 MB $3000 (N ISA N N PROBS No hardware problems installing and using Linux. I had to buy a new hard disk, there was the normal installation hassles (master/slave IDE setting). BRDS Orginally the system costed ~$3000 back in 1990. Came with generic IDE controller (still being used), ET4000 video (replaced with S3). Ergo NoteBrick 486DX/33 Y 16 M 4000 or ? No Yes PROBS Doesn't recognize my cirrus logic 6420 for X windows BRDS 4000, loaded, no ethernet, 350 meg drive, 1024x768 with 16 colors on extern. monitor. Escom i386DX25 i387 8MB ? ISA no no PROBS no problems BRDS ? Escom 486DX33 Y 4 1000 pou ? no no Escom Quattro Pro(Escom is a 486DX/33 incl 8Mb was a bu ISA yes, no BRAND CPU FP MEM $$$$ BUS LO PORT Everex Step (Primary machine) 386/33 YES 2 Mb $3500 CD ISA NO NO PROBS None. There were software problems, these were cured by hacking the kernel, etc. BRDS Current price and availability unknown. Originally came with EGA 330 Meg ESDI drive, Everex multi-function serial/parallel board. Current hardware is ATI VGA Wonder V5, and 1 Gb IDE, 16550 serial, 16 Mb RAM Everex, Dell monitor 486DLC (?) No 4 M US$1200 ? No No PROBS XFREE/VGA problems. Came with Brand X VGA card which ran mono. Replaced with card having a Cirrus chip, and only recently got that to run color after much grief. BRDS Approx US$1200. 4 M, Brand X VGA, 3.5 and 5 inch floppy, Express Microsystems 386DX/33 n 8 MB 3,000 ISA N N PROBS n/a BRDS $2500 Trident 8900C vid card, standard IDE hard disk controller parallel/serial/joy port card extra serial port Express Microsystems 386DX/33 n 8 MB 3,000 ISA N N PROBS n/a BRDS $2500 Trident 8900C vid card, standard IDE hard disk controller parallel/serial/joy port card extra serial port FastMicro (now defunct) FastDa 486SX/25 No 4Mb $999 (US ISA No No PROBS 2 Problems: SLS documentation gave wrong size for total system so ran out of space in partition in initial install attempt. Took a while to get color X11 server running because TVGA 9000 video card not well documented in XFree configuration files. BRDS Why are you asking the same question twice? FastMicro's FastData 486DX/33 ? 8 MB $1900 ISA YES NO Garage Shop :-) 486DX2/66 N/A 16me $3000 ISA NO NO PROBS Some lockups with NE2000 compatible ethernet card. These no longer occur with the latest kernel. BRDS I don't have a name brand computer. This was all pieced together, so I don't think this question is applicable. Gateway 386DX/25 N 4 me $3000 (i ISA no no PROBS never any problem BRDS $3000 (in 1990) WD/IDE ctrlr, ATI video card, ser. card Gateway 486DX/33 Y :- 8M 3000 ISA No No PROBS None whatsoever. BRDS $3000 over a year ago, including ATI Graphics Ultra video board, 212M disk, 4M ram. Gateway 2000 386DX/33 Y 4 Me $1799.99 ISA Alas Not PROBS Had to "adjust" my XT controller card for BIOS conflicts BRDS 120 Meg IDE Cavier Drive (Western Digital?) Diamond SVGA card w/1M (1024x768x256) Serial/Parallel port board. 2 HD/FD controller card Gateway 2000 486DX2/66 ? 12MB $3000 ISA yes. no. BRDS TelePath Modem (v42.bis 14400 baud) Gateway 2000 386DX-20 N 10Mb $>3K (Ne ISA N N PROBS No problems. Limited by 512Kb Video card to 800x600x256 colors in X Windows. BRDS Now has a ~235 Maxstor IDE drive, (had 80Mb MFM), 512Kb Stock Paradise Video Card (Orchid Prodesigner ?) no ethernet. 8Mb Daughter RAM card (old DRAM box) Gateway 2000 486 DX2/50 incl 16M ? ? No No PROBS Not many. But I don't use networking. BRDS This is my work box (one of them). I think it went for around $4000. Included: 200mb IDE drive, 2 floppys, Crystalscan monitor, 16M ram, mouse, AT Graphics Ultra with 1MB, 2 serial 1 parallel port Gateway 2000 386DX/33 Y 4MB 1795.00 ISA NO NO PROBS Diamond video card--had to tinker to get X to run. BRDS Video: Diamond Speedstar Plus Hard drive controller: Never looked. :) Gateway Telepath FAX/modem card (14,400 bps data/9600 FAX) GATEWAY 2000 486DX2/66 YES 16MB $3000 ISA YES NO PROBS Besides the normal fiddling with the XConfig file for my video board (ATI Graphics Ultra Pro VLB), I really had no problems getting the system up a running. BRDS The Gateway system sells at about $3000. This system comes with 16MB Ram, 340MB Western Dig. HD, ATI G.U.P. VLB video, 15" CrystalScan Monitor, CD ROM Drive (NOT linux compatible), built-in VLB IDE HD/FD interface. Gateway 2000 386DX25 noncac N 4Mb $3000 (1 ISA no no PROBS none BRDS $3000, ide controller, ATI VGA Wonder, WD Caviar 280 80Mb IDE 2S/1P/1G card Gateway 2000 486DX2/66 N 8M $4500 ISA yes no PROBS no problems. Linux worked straight out of the box (SLS) BRDS Base price $2500 extra video memory (alloing 8bits @ 1280x1024) 14.4Kb FAX/modem 17" monitor 340 IDE disk Gateway 2000 486DX2/50 Y (t 8M $2700 (A ? N N PROBS None BRDS Isn't this the same as 1E? ATI Graphics Ultra Gateway2000 486DX/33 Y 8MB 3K (2 ye ISA no no PROBS zip - ran out of the box (with regard to hardware that is) BRDS nowadays 1,795 - but the video card is different Generic AMD 386/40 Y (i 8MB Unknown ISA No No BRAND CPU FP MEM $$$$ BUS LO PORT Generic, ETEQ chipset ? Y 8M US$1600 ISA N N Hard core taiwanese clone 486 DX 50 ? 4 3000 $ ISA n n PROBS inactivate BIOS on 1542C card (needed under DOS...) BRDS 2000 $ HD Computers 486-33 buil 16M $2600, A ? Yes No PROBS none BRDS Local Bus I/O to disk and video Brand is G-Host4000 Plus Hewitt Rand (Candian Clone mak 486DX2/66 ? don' $1280 CD ISA yes no PROBS None Hi-micro ? Y 8 me $AU3400 ISA NO NO PROBS The hard disk is/was flakey. Manufactured by 'alps' (some japanese company. It generates suprious interrupts. Need DELAY defined in kernel/blk_dev/hd.c (DELAY=300). BRDS $3400 australian, 14 months ago. with 200 meg hard disk, and et4000 video. High Difinition (serious clone ? incl 8 me $1997 ? VL-B No PROBS Not a one... BRDS Came with a Sipder 32-VL graphics card, everything else normal (ISA disk controller, Maxtor-7245AT hard disk, Viewsonc 6e monitor) HighScreen (VOBIS) DX2 - 50 Y 16M $3000 ( ISA N Y Highscreen 8100 Laptop 386DX/20 Y 2MB 7000DM ( prob ? Y (" PROBS * X seldom comes up (but sometimes). I don't know yet whether this is caused by hardware or software problems. * 80MB harddisk was too small for me, so I upgraded to a 325MB harddisk BRDS 7000DM (3 years ago) Home brew ? N 8MB $3300 ISA N N PROBS Hmm. Had to increase wait states on ram, but MS-Windows was Suffering from that also. Really had no problems. BRDS Contaq MB & processor, 8MB ram, 200 WD IDE HD & controller, tower case $1700 Not quite the breakdown you are looking for... floppies, vga, monitor, keyboard, IO I already had. HOME BUILD FROM BITS 386sx25 N 10Mb ? ISA NO NO PROBS NONE (only lack of Hard disk space and money) Home Built | Everex 486 DX 50 | (inc 16 M 7500 ISA no no PROBS [486/50] No problems installing (yet :-) ) BRDS Both systems have been built up over several years. This question is not able to be answered intelligently. Home built (Motherboard is DFI AMD 386/40 Cyri 16MB DKR 3000 ISA No No BRDS Don't know where to put this : I'm using a Geniscan GS4500 handheld scanner with some alpha code Works great Home made by me :) 486DX50 (Int 4Meg $3400 ISA Yes No PROBS None. :) BRDS $2050 Included: 486DX50 VL-Bus M.B. w/256k cache & AMI bios, 4M 53ns. RAM, Caviar 340 H.D., both hi-density F.D.s, generic I/O, ET4000 based VL-Bus video, 15" flat overscanning 1024ni monitor, Mid-tower case w/flip down dust cover & 230W P.S. Home made: Micronics EISA/VESA 486DX2/66 ? 24 M I hate t ? yes no PROBS No problems BRDS Adaptec 1742 (Used in a 1740 mode, I use the micronics floppy Home-assembled 486/33 Incl 16MB April 19 ISA N N PROBS None Home-made 486DX/25 so i 32Mb 600 UK p ISA YES NO PROBS None so far Homebrew by my organization - ? Y 8M Old ISA no no PROBS This is a replacement motherboard. The previous motherboard (identical in theory) suffered from random crashes, despite passing all known diagnostics. homebrew, from parts i386/25 n none :) isa n n Homebrewed Am386DX/40 N 8M $900 ISA N N PROBS LILO does not install above cyl. 1024; cannot boot from HD .. other wise, no problems! (email dhs1@lehigh.edu if you want info) BRDS Since I built my computer, there is no approximate retail value, but I've spent about $500 on it. Approximate value: $1200. Homebrewn i386DX/33 Y (i 8M ? No ide ISA No No PROBS None. Running smoothly as ever. BRAND CPU FP MEM $$$$ BUS LO PORT homebuild ? Y 8M $1000 ISA NO NO PROBS no hardware problems homebuilt 386/25 no 8 MB not rele ISA no no PROBS Had to install a 3.5" floppy because my 5.25" wouldn't work Homebuilt[tm] 486SX25 :-( N 4Mb $1500 [d ISA N N PROBS None at all :-) BRDS "Came with?" I bought cheapo 2 Ser/1 Par/IDE/FDC, ET4000 (wanted to get Speedstar 24X until I heard about XFree). Homemade from part bought over 386DX/25 Yes 8 me $1200?? ISA No No PROBS Ran perfectly out of the book BRDS 245 meg IDE Maxtor Orchid ProDesigner II Hyperbook 386DX40 Y 4 $2800 ISA N Y PROBS none IBM CLONE 386DX20 RUNNIN NO 4 MB ?? ISA NO NO PROBS N/A BRDS N/A (I brought this system 3 years ago. The pirce is complete different!) ICL 486DX2/66 Y (o 16Mb ? EISA No No PROBS AHA 1742 SCSI adapter must run in enhanced mode Ifm 486DX/33 Y 16Mb Hfl 5900 ISA No No PROBS None BRDS Price was Hfl 5900.- (+/- $3200), with 125Mb Hd, ET4000 vga, 8Mb 2xserial, 1xparallel, 1xgame, 3.5", 5.25", color svga screen 15". This was 2 years ago. Jeff PC 486DX 33 Buil 8mb Gees, th ISA no no PROBS No problems, for a generic, no-name, hacked together system it works very well. BRDS $200 for a motherboard...the rest I added piece by piece local (XL Systems) Cyrix cx486dlc Y 4 Me IRL # 1, ISA N N PROBS None. BRDS With platform: Trident 3900c (1/4 Meg) SVGA Video Card I/O card (? brand) Seagate 120 Meg drive Price IRL # 1,200 (box & monitor & keybd) Lofgren (small local 486DX/33 y 16 M 1760 GBP ISA n n PROBS none Lucky Star International 486DX/33 Y 16M $2800 ISA/ Y N PROBS None BRDS The base price was $1800 with 4Mb, 170Mb disk, and a generic VLB SVGA card. I bumped it to 16Mb, 213Mb disk, ATI GUP, and VLB IDE. Maximus Maxi 66EV ? Y 32M US$5000. Semi YES NO PROBS Had to reconfigure AHA1742 controller to extended mode, which is only partially supported under the HiNT chipset. This involved modifying EISA config file supplied with the controller. Was documented, but took a day or two to figure out. BRDS w/o monitor, it was about 4500, added a NEC 5FG from work, which, if purchased, would have put the price around 5800. Micron ? Y 16MB $3000 ISA Yes No PROBS Initially supplied with Maxtor 7245 IDE drive. Got numerous "HD Controller Resets". Replaced with WD 2340, now no probs. Initially supplied with video card using CL5426 chip. Not good for Xwindows. Replaced with S3 924 based card. Now no probs. Supplied with DTC 2270VL Vesa Local Bus IDE + I/O card. UARTs are VLSI 16450's (not good for fast modems). BRDS $2700 with 16MB, S3 924 video (1MB VRAM), MAG MX15F, combo floppy drive, 245MB hard drive. Uses DTC2270VL IDE I/O card (works well, with WD 2340 hard drive). Micronic Motherboard 486DX/33 (inc 12MB ?? ISA Yes no PROBS None. Micronics EISA/VESA 486 DX2/66 ? 64MB $2.900 EISA yes no BRDS $4.500 My own 386/40 Y 8M ????? (b ISA No No PROBS None My own brand 486DX/2-66 not 16 M US $ 300 ? yes no PROBS none BRDS I/O: 2s 2p 1g, 1fax Ethernet: NoName NE2k-clone. Video: Miro Crystal 8s (S3 86C805 VLB) HDC: NoName VLB-IDE Sound: CL Soundblaster Pro my own hacks mb+case/ps 486/33,386/33, Y 20m total fo ISA, no,n have PROBS none that were worthy of thinking about, with the exception of repairs to less than reliable parts i have also done many installations -- i am the campus linux advocate personified. I have seen one machien which required me to use the dos program disk manager to format the drive before fdisk would look at it. BRDS well, with the exception of 1mb and 16mb of my core, everything i have (for all three systems) is used, i guessed a total of $2k for the whole shebang -- some of it was received "as is, you fix" for free n/a 486DX2/66 Y 16mb 3000 ? No No PROBS Monitor would boot up into unsupported 680 mode and could not read screen. First experience as new user was how to patch kernal while not being able to see monitor. Ugh. BRDS Future Domain SCSi 1680, PAS 16 sound card 3000 dollars BRAND CPU FP MEM $$$$ BUS LO PORT N/A (Homemade) 386DX/40 N 8Mb FIM 1000 ISA no no PROBS No problemo! BRDS Standard multi-io board, AT/ID controller, Tseng ET4000 1Mb SVGA adapter NCC (Escondido CA). 486DX33 N/A 8MB $1750 ISA YES NO PROBS Had to wait for XFree 1.3 to get color with my video card. BRDS price approx $1750 with 8MB RAM/245MB disk (Maxtor IDE controller on VESA local bus), CIRRUS CL-GD5426 based VESA local bus video card (sold as GENOA windows VGA24), ZIF CPU Socket upgradeable to P24T. No brand. Home built. 486DX 33 & 386 Y 20 M $8000 ISA no no PROBS None on either machine. I know them inside out. BRDS I bought all the parts seperately over time and the machines just sort of evolved. No Name 486DX33 Y 16Me $4500.00 Hybr Yes No PROBS None. Works right out of the box. no name ? Y 8MB ? bought ISA N N PROBS None! Great! I just can't believe it myself ... BRDS s.a. ... I can't figure out all the prices for each and every piece of this system in a minute (sorry) No name 486-DX33 Intel n/a 8 Mb $3k (a y ISA no no PROBS Had an old IDE drive that limps along under DOS, but will not work with Linux. (Drive was defective, but outside of warranty period.) BRDS ~$3k with IDE/Ser/Par/Gam, 212HDD, 8Mb, 1Mb et4000, etc. no name (SiS 461 motherboard) ? :-) 16MB DM 4000, ISA yes no PROBS none (except for lots of unsupported hardware in oct 1992) no name clone 486SX33 N 8MB $1300 ISA Y N PROBS none BRDS all purchased separately but ~ $1300 /w trident svga card and 245 MB WD Caviar IDE HD on VLB No name clone - OPTI motherboa ? No 8M ? ISA No No PROBS No major problems BRDS N/A no name generic 386DX/33 N 2M 1500 ISA N N PROBS none BRDS 1500 IDE controller, MGA w/ hercules No name pc clone (micronics mt 486DX2/66 N 16M $2500 ISA/ YES NO PROBS None! BRDS ATI Ultra Pro VLB w/2MB VRAM Zoom VFX14400 Modem No Name VESA LB System 486DX-33 (but 8 x ~US$2000 ISA Yes No PROBS I also run Linux on an aging 386SX-16 with 4MB of RAM with no hardware problems on either machine... BRDS ~US$2000 + 21%, came with Tseng ET-4000/W32 LB video (very nice) A VLB IDE controller (can't remember the name, but nothing fancy) (the controller also has 1P/2S/Game port) no-name 386-33DX n 8MB too damn EISA no no PROBS none BRDS no ethernet present paradise 1MB SVGA, 3.5/5.25 floppies, 203 and 118 MB disks mitsuimi cd all can be put together now for about 1500.00 non-brand 486DX/33 Only 8 me $2100 (J ISA No No PROBS Are you gonna ask about video later? I have a Speedstar+, v. 5.0, am now using ``freq'' and get 1024x768x256 BRDS As indicated above, the computer cost $2100, and came with 2 floppies noname 486DX/50 (onl 8MB $10,000 EISA No No PROBS none BRDS Price see above. I build this paltform for myself, by buying all parts and cards for itself. Noname 486/33 ? 8 M $2000 ISA NO NO PROBS None. So far, everything has installed "out of the box" BRDS About 2000 for the box. I paid 136 for ESDI controller. Scrounged two used ESDI disks (300 MEG). Bought a mouse, etc. Came with two serial and one parallel port. Noname AMD 386-40 Y what $1500 (i ISA NO NO PROBS I bought a second HD for Linux and had to find out the jumper settings for master/slave operation of the two drives, but that is not a Linux problem ;-) BRDS I built the system from different hardware parts so there is nothing that really CAME WITH the platform. I also use second-hand parts, so this question is not applicable to my system. NoName AMD 386DX/40 Y II 4 Mb 2500 DM ISA No No PROBS I had no problem. :-) Noname 486/33 Y :- 0Mb! 1200 GBP ISA NO NO PROBS FD 1680 card not supported until pl11 had to use old seagate to boot in order to compile up pl11 to boot to install on 1680. BRDS Isn't this Q 1e ? Came with Mitsumi 90MB IDE disk, Noname Multi-IO, Realtek SVGA (I have replaced all of these now though!) No ethernet! noname 486DX/33 Y (i 16Mb $2200 ex ? N N PROBS IRQ settings on the 2 multi-I/O cards BRAND CPU FP MEM $$$$ BUS LO PORT noname 386/25 N 8 MB $2500 (y ISA N N PROBS no problems, just software config problems BRDS AT-BUS, 210MB hard disk, ET4000, SoundBlaster 2.0 approx. $4000 without Monitor Noname i486/33 No. 8Mb ? ? No. No. PROBS Had to use friend's Linux box to make kernel Image that would recognize my Ultrastor 14F SCSI BRDS I'm not sure what you're asking, but here goes. I have a DFI I/O card w/ 1Ser(ttyS0)/1Par/1Gam, an Ultrastor 14F SCSI card with a 249Mb SCSI-2 Seagate HD and a 1.44Mb 3.5" FD attached. I also have a 2400bps modem on ttyS3 Noname AMD386DX40 N 0 220 DM = ISA N N PROBS No problem at all... Maybe because I bought the machine just for using Linux on it. noname 386-40 Y 4MB $1500 ISA No No PROBS PVGA tweaked Video on fixed-freq monitor, no syncing BRDS total $2000 NoName 486DX50 No W 16 M ?? ISA Vesa No PROBS None BRDS 2 Systems, 1 ISA 50 Mhz, one VLB 50 Mhz ISA with Paradise chip 1 MEG VGA, VLB board with ELSA WINNER 1000 S3/928 card 2 Meg VRAM Price? I bought everything seperatly noname 486DX50 natu 16 M AUD 5000 ISA/ see not PROBS Only needed to fiddle master/slave jumpers for IDE drives. BRDS AUD 1000 noname 486/50 DX ? 16Mb ?? ISA no no PROBS no BRDS video ATI PRO $400, HDs: micropolis 2112 1Gb ~ $1000, Fujitsu 512Mb $600, Ethernet NE2000 clone $100, noname 486DX33 ? 8MB 2000$ ISA yes no Noname 386DX25 N 1MB 8000 DM ISA N N PROBS No problems. BRDS Originally only a 40MB IDE disk (Seagate), Video7 VGA, I/O Controller with 1 ser/1 par/1 game. noname (build it myself :-) ? N 16Mb $2000 (2 ? No No PROBS Nothing, just perfect! BRDS Bought it seperatly but I don't remember the numbers I have a combined IDE/SCSI adapter with a TMC 1600 Future Domain chipset NoName (mixed components) 386/40 DX (128 N 4mb ....(add ISA no no PROBS none I can remember :) BRDS n/a, see above NoName (R) 486DX2/66 Y (b 16Mb ~ USD 38 ISA yes no PROBS None really, just had to compatibilize the different boards (SCSI, SBPro2, NE2000 clone). See note at end about NE2000 and SLS 1.01. BRDS Price is not really relevant, as they're much more expensive over here. However, just the box with the RAM and no boards other than IDE and VGA, no monitor were approx. USD. 1200. NoName (Winner in Denmark) 486DX33 Yes 8 Mb 15.00 dk ISA No No PROBS Absolutely none. BRDS Price is as mentioned above ~ 2.500 $ Disk (old these days) WD 120 Mbyte (I added a 202 Mbyte Conner) Video: ET4000 based SVGA. 800x600x32.000 or 1024x768x256 NoName ``Reeves'' 486DX/33 ? 16M $2000 ? N N noname assembled 7/92 486DX/50 inte 0 $1300 ISA Loca no PROBS none BRDS Local Bus 486/50 mb w VGA & IDE Cashe $850, cpu $785, 9-4MB SIMMs (32MB ram, 4MB disk cache) $1440, Case, power supply, fan, heat sink $325, aditional 512K on board memory cashe (for total 1MB) $130 noname clone Intel 386DX33 N 2 (i ? ISA N N noname Taiwanese 486 DX/2 50MHz buil 8MB $3000 ISA no no PROBS sorry, no hardware problems BRDS Legend GX-S3 videocard, WD2200 Harddisk, SMC WD8013 Ethernetcard any FDC/IDE Interface NoName with STO motherboard 486DX2/66 Y 16 M 4000 $ ? y n BRDS Since machine was built by myself, this doesn't apply noname, build myself from part ? n 16 M 10,000.- EISA no no PROBS none BRDS Floppy: Sony 3.5" DM 100.- noname, homebuilt ? n 5120 AUS$1600 ISA n n PROBS As it was home-built all the dip-switches were not vendor-set. (and therefore were actually correct :) BRDS As it was home-build, it is a stone-soup machine - IE: nothing came with it.. BRAND CPU FP MEM $$$$ BUS LO PORT noname, homebuilt ? y 5120 AUS$3000 ISA n n PROBS As it was home-built all the dip-switches were not vendor-set. (and therefore were actually correct :) BRDS As it was home-build, it is a stone-soup machine - IE: nothing came with it.. Noname. OPTI Motherboard AMD 386DX/33 N 8Mb $1300 ? N N PROBS None BRDS $400. 2 Hard Disks: Seagate 42 MB and Seagate 105 MB (IDE) OAK VGA card (256 KB) - Monocrhome VGA video. Noname... :-) Am386SX/25 N 4096 $ 200-30 ISA No No PROBS None whatsoever. First time install went perfectly - only constraint is available memory, esp for subsequent upgrades and kernel compilation etc. BRDS Over all - a homebrew machine. Difficult to say... None ? ? 8M $1500 ? Y N PROBS None. BRDS VL-Bus video card (Genoa). VL-Bus disk controller. (I bought the motherboard for $800, I think.) none 2x 386/40 N 8MB unknown ISA N N PROBS 1 jumper to configure my braindead Seagate SCSI controller for IRQ 5 (default) Packard Bell 486SX/33 N 4MB $2000US EISA yes no PROBS none BRDS none added Packard Bell ("Wards Special") 386/SX 16mhz Y (C 1 me about $1 ISA No No PROBS The HD (a Seagate 1144A 125 meg IDE) does have some problems with bad sectors that make installing linux somewhat problematic since as yet linux doesn't have good HD testing software like Drivepro. BRDS About $1800. I got an Oak SVGA card and a regular VGA monitor and Paradise (cheapo clone) 486DX/33 y 8Mb UKL3000 ISA n n PROBS None, apart from when I trashed my filesystems due to an incorrectly terminated SCSI cable when testing a second drive. Backups are wonderful :-). BRDS I specified the system myself for Linux. It came with an Adaptec 1542B an Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 and a no-name 2ser/1par/1games board. It cost L2700 then inc. VAT and monitor. PC Brand Cyrix 486SLC N 16 M Can't re ? No Yes PROBS Wouldn't detect my soundblaster CD. Doesn't like my CLGD 6410 VGA adapter(XFree86). BRDS $3000 or so, cant remember. Builtin IDE & SVGA. PC Brand 486/DX Y (i 4M $2,000 ? No No PROBS Initial installation of X386 (August, 1992) had some problems with Paradise VGA and Xconfig. Resolved since XFree86 v1.2. BRDS Computer came with 4M, and 100M hard drive, 2 serial and 1 parallel port, Paradise SVGA, and 1024x768 (interlace) monitor. PC clown at home 386DX/33 No 4K N 13K Feb9 ISA no no M PROBS No problems The MCC-inter worked like a charm. In the early days I had to find an old fdisk to partition my hard drive into non-extended partitions(max4). BRDS I do not know the I/O board, It is a Combo 2-flopy/2-ide/4-port(mouse, com2, game, lpr). nice I have a trident Vga card. Never tryed 'X' PC ERICOM (equiv. to : "no nam Intel 386DX/33 IIT 4 MB - ISA no no PROBS None. BRDS The controller and SVGA described below. Pc Master 386/33 Y 8M ??? ISA no no PROBS no problem at all BRDS price: ? (it's rather old - anyway Italian prices are unreasonable) PC Tailors 385/25 (64K ca N 8 Me $2500 (W ISA N N pieced together clone ? Y - 8Meg $400 US ISA NO NO PROBS VGA Monitor is a salvaged IBM PS/2 Greyscale VGA. X works at 640x480 but text-mode is screwed up and must re-boot to clean up. BRDS $600 Royal ? Y 8M $2500 VESA Yes No BRDS $2500 including video (STB PowerGraph VL-24) hard disk (IDE-VLB WD 340M) 1Par 2Ser 1Game, both floppies, tower case, 8M RAM, 256K cache, 15" MAG-15F monitor. Royal ? Y 8M $2500 VESA Yes No BRDS $2500 including video (STB PowerGraph VL-24) hard disk (IDE-VLB WD 340M) 1Par 2Ser 1Game, both floppies, tower case, 8M RAM, 256K cache, 15" MAG-15F monitor. Sabre 486DX - 25 n (b 8 Me $ 800 ISA NO NO PROBS NONE BRDS Sabre Blade 486 motherboard - $900, no I/O Self-assembled 386DX/40 Yes 4M $1100 (W ISA No No PROBS First IDE controller refused to boot linix. I had no docs, but believe the actual conflict was with serial ports on the card, one of which should have been disabled. It prevented me from booting the SLS install disk. BRDS I've assembled the computer myself from parts. So it's hard to say. Selfbuild with board and cards 386DX/40 YES 8MB ? ISA NO NO BRAND CPU FP MEM $$$$ BUS LO PORT Sold by Aberdeen 486 SX/33 N 8MB $320 (mo ISA Yes No PROBS no problems at all BRDS VLB M/B w/ 256K cache + 486sx33 $320 SW Technology's SWT i466-vlb Intel 486DX2-6 Buil 8 mb $1675 ISA Yes No PROBS The computer came with Linux already loaded, Lilo installed, X configured and I don't have to do a thing! Just Plug and play. BRDS The machine has a generic IDE w I/O card, Cirrus Logic 5426 vesa local local bus video w/ 1 mb, upgradable to 2mb, 245 mb Conner hd. No network card. AcerView 34T 1024x768 non-interlaced .28 monitor. Syntax 486DX 33MHz Y 4 US 1330 ? N N PROBS No problems at all with installing Linux. I have only some problems with X, due to the OAK-087 I have (not yet supported). BRDS EDI, 200 MB Maxtor 1 3,5" floppy OAK-087 graph. card + monitor Trust model CM-2028 NI This config. costed me approx. US 1330 Taiwan 'Best Design' motherboa 486DX/33 Sock 32M $3000 (w ? No No PROBS None BRDS Not commercial Taiwan Clone 486DX50 (not D on C 20 22000 FF ISA yes no PROBS no specific H/W problem BRDS came with integrated ISA multi IO card 2 serial + // + IDE, 120 Mb Maxtor IDE + LocalBus ET 4000 + 20 Mo RAM + MAG 17" at 22000 FF = 3600 US $ Taiwan Clone using Opti Chipse 386DX-25 Cyri 6 Mo $1000 ISA No No PROBS Without problem just now BRDS Above price, with: Paradise SVGA-1024 video card (512Ko), 2 RS232, 1 game port, 1 paral.port, 2 Floopies(3-1/2 & 5-1/4), 2 IDE disks (Seagate 44 Mo and Conner 210 Mo), 1 Mouse (Mouse System with 3 buttons) Tawain Clone (Symphony Chipset 486DX33 ? ?? for what ???? N N PROBS Parity errors with NEC DRAM SiMMs 4MBit/70ns; replaced them with Samsung 4Mit/70ns and problems vanished. The NEC RAMs were ok; worked fine in other machines, so it definitely is flawed motherboard design. BRDS Base Unit: (purchased 08/93 in Germany from "Best Computersysteme") 486/33, 256KB Cache, 4MB Ram, 205 MB IDE HDD (Maxtor), FDD 3.5" + 5.25", Multi-IO (2xser, 2xpar, 2xFDD, 2xIDE), cheap SVGA 512KB, cheap SVGA Monitor DM 3700.- Texas Instruments Travelmate 4 486SX/25 N 4 MB $2100 ? ? YES PROBS Travelpoint mouse was not supported. A fix, known as QUICKPORT.TAR exists on the net. Toshiba 3300SL laptop ? N 2MB $2K US ? no yes PROBS no problems. BRDS Can't buy this one anymore. Comparable machines go for $1500-$2K Touche 486DX33 N 8MB ~2.3 k$ ISA No No PROBS none, except for checking what's the setting of WD8003 before making networking work... BRDS 2.3$ bought plain vanilla I/O & IDE controllers, 240MB HD, CDU-535/CDB-240 CDROM (Sony, works fine under Linux), ProDesigner II SVGA and SONY CDP-1304 monitor. Everything came from Touche Inc. circa 2 years ago Trifunic 486DX/33 Y 8Mb 1300$ (i ISA N N PROBS Middlebutton in Truemouse - mouse wont work properly with X BRDS Tseng ET4000 wideocard No ethernet Noname IO card Trust (just some clone... ) ? N 5 MB $350 (pa ISA N N BRDS see above, about $900 new when I bought it. I basically bought it Turbo Drew - I literally built 386-33 N 8M $1700 ISA N N BRDS It's ancient hardware, and I used lots of parts I had lying arround Ultra 80386DX/40 Yes 8 MB NZ$7000 EISA No No PROBS None. BRDS Worth about NZ$4000 when I brought it (1 year ago) and it only came with 116MB Hard drive (Quantum manufacturer) 512Kb Trident video no co-pro 4 MB memory 1 floppy drive 2 serial 1 parallel ports no netword card. Unbranded clones 386SX-33 N 16 m ??? ISA No No PROBS Network cabling - caps on terminating resistors had come loose. This took me a long time to work out because I was looking at the wrong network cable to start with. :-) BRDS All the machines here were assembled by me - the cost for the SX that Linux runs on was probably about A$2000 with RAM, m/b and 110meg IDE drive (and SVGA + monitor.) Unknown 486DX2/66 N 16Mb approx 7 ? Y N PROBS None, except for some fiddling to set the SCSI numbers properly. BRDS Sames as above. Sort of built my own system. Unknown 386DX/33MHz/64 N 8MB 4000$ ISA N N PROBS Bug in older SLS, didn't recognise WD8003E correctly. SLS 1.03 ok, but instead filled my tiny 105meg disk... BRDS Eh, everything is bought as separate pieces Unknown AMD 386/40 N 8M $1500 ISA N N PROBS None except for setup of adapter cards (Flynix 8-port) various, did my own configurat 486DX2/66 Y (C 20MB ATS20000 EISA N N PROBS I had no problems at all! Vectrex 486DX-33 buil 8MB 1000 or ? N N BRAND CPU FP MEM $$$$ BUS LO PORT Viglen 486DX/66 N 8M US$ 5000 ISA N N BRDS US$3600 (including Viglen multifunction IO board, which has serial, parallel ports, IDE controller, and Paradis SVGA graphic card (512K). Western Digital 210M drive also came with computer Vobis (German Brand, mostly Ta 486DX33 no s 16 M 4500 DM ISA N N BRDS 4500 DM in 1991 Wings notebook 386sx 20 MHz Y 2MB unknown ISA no yes PROBS Noneatall Ye Olde Noname Computer Factor ? No.. 4MB ~$3700 ISA Alas 1..2 PROBS Rawrite is a pain on 5 1/4 floppies, so I ended up swapping /dev/fd0 and /dev/fd1. A major headache, actually, since the cable wouldn't reach... BRDS The purchase price was ~$1800. I've never really looked at the disk controller. The original video board was a Trident 8900C (or was that D?) based card. Zenon 486/50 NA 8meg 1500 ? Yes No PROBS SLS not set up for SCSI disks, getting the Orchid 1280 card running X was a bitch. BRDS $1500 (no hard drive, no monitor) Zenon 486/33 Y 8MB $1900 ISA No No PROBS Spimd Card (PAS16) is required to use non-standard interrupts. Also, any mouse activity under X while recording will result in hiss and BRDS Diamond S[eedstar 24 :-( Adaptec 1542B contorller (no IDE present) PAS16 sound cardd 2 serial (16450 uart) 1 parallel, 1 game port Zenon 486DX2/66 N 16MB 4K for e EISA Y N PROBS UltraStor 34F SCSI card recognition problems. Ended up having a friend compile a kernel without the driver that conflicted with the default card jumpers. Directions from c.o.l readers to modify a jumper didn't work, so I resorted to the non-SLS kernel. BRDS Bought as a package deal, sorry: CPU, 17" Viewsonic 7 monitor, Orchid VLB graphics card, UltraStor 34F SCSI controller, 2 port serial card with 16550 UARTs, 3 button mouse, Seagate 340MB hard drive Zeos ? Y 16M $3000 ISA Y N PROBS None. BRDS $3000, 2S, 1P, IDE, floppy on motherboard, Diamond video, no ethernet. Zeos 486DX2/50 Y 8meg $3000.00 isa yes no PROBS None for linux, Some video tweaking to get X running with DSS24x BRDS 2 16540 based com ports, parrallel port, seagate 245mb drive Diamond Sped star 24x (ugh) ~2700 1.5 years ago... 2400 now Zeos 486DX2/50 Y 8meg $3000.00 isa yes no PROBS None for linux, Some video tweaking to get X running with DSS24x BRDS 2 16540 based com ports, parrallel port, seagate 245mb drive Diamond Sped star 24x (ugh) ~2700 1.5 years ago... 2400 now Zeos 486DX2/66 ? 8MB $3800 ? yes no BRDS hard disk video (Diamond Speedstar Pro VL) Zeos 386/33 n 4 Me $1700 ISA n n BRDS $1700, came with Seagate ST1144A (since replaced) Diamond Speedstar Plus 1MB video card ZEOS VLB ? Y 16 m 3500-400 ISA Y N PROBS Adaptec 6260 SCSI controller chip not supported and renders my 1G SCSI drive useless to Linux. The Diamond Viper card w/ 2 megs is not supported, and thereby useless to Linux. These components are very good for their prices, shame. BRDS diamond Viper w/ 1 meg came with Quantum 1G PD1050iS came with (noisy little buger) On-board adaptec 6260 SCSI controller chip came with 2 Com and 1Ser. port on board, came with END OF PART 1 ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Admin-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via: Internet: Linux-Admin@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Admin Digest ******************************