From: Digestifier To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu Date: Thu, 2 Sep 93 09:13:47 EDT Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #32 Linux-Admin Digest #32, Volume #1 Thu, 2 Sep 93 09:13:47 EDT Contents: Re: Result from free (memory usage) (Thomas Pfau) Another printing problem (Was Re: "lpd" won't run) (J.H.M. Dassen) SLS 1.03 /conf/* (C Wayne Huling) Re: Let's collect KNOWN BUGS (Helmut Geyer) NFS mounting from Sun + rcp to Sun (Mark Kassab) Re: Net-Admin-Guide CAUTION! (Olaf Kirch) Streamers (Denis Lafont) [ANNOUNCE] FIXPERMS 0.40!! (OUTTA HERE!) Re: Linux bbs software? (Phyllis Mitchell) Re: Another printing problem (Was Re: "lpd" won't run) (Erik Stenvall) Printing to switched off printer (Roger Binns) Re: Net-Admin-Guide CAUTION! (easy fix) (Phil Hughes) Re: Let's collect KNOWN BUGS (Ole Tange) Re: Printing to switched off printer (Brandon S. Allbery) Re: "lpd" won't run (Chris Marriott) Re: XDM bug/Shadow passwords. (Kl.Schaefers) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pfau@coffee.enet.dec.com (Thomas Pfau) Subject: Re: Result from free (memory usage) Date: 1 SEP 93 16:51:25 Linux supports shared memory. Therefore, pages reported in the RSS of one process may also be reported in the RSS of other processes. This will throw your count off. tom_p ====================================================================== pfau@coffee.enet.dec.com | Mapmaker's disclaimer: 16.69.208.195 | 'Not responsible for topographical Compuserve: 73303,1136 | errors.' ====================================================================== ------------------------------ From: dassen@sthp.wi.leidenuniv.nl (J.H.M. Dassen) Subject: Another printing problem (Was Re: "lpd" won't run) Date: 1 Sep 1993 11:36:49 GMT In article <746736010snz@chrism.demon.co.uk> chris@chrism.demon.co.uk writes: >My problem is that the printer daemon "lpd" refuses to run. If I run it, >it terminates with no error messages immediately (exit code 0, if that >helps). When I try to print through "lpr" I get the message "job queued, >but no daemon present". When I run the printer control program lpc and >give the "restart" command I get the message: [...] I have a problem that is a bit similar: my lpd exists (checked with ps -axm), but isn't recognised. The full details follow (old article on the NEWBIE mailing list which unfortunately generated no replies): Subject: Printer troubles: Yes/No printer daemon Hi Linuxers, I have a strange problem: printing via lpr works, but lpc stat reports that there are no entries in the queue and that there is no daemon present (ps -axm reports that there is a daemon). Of courese what I want is to get the right information from lpc. lpc stat gives: lp: queuing is enabled printing is enabled no entries no daemon present ps -axm gives: PID TT MAJFLT MINFLT TRS DRS SIZE SWAP RSS SHRD LIB DT COMMAND 1 ? 78 38 12 88 380 0 380 292 328 12 init 62 1 85 260 220 124 344 0 344 228 0 0 -sh 3 ? 7 24 0 40 264 0 264 228 252 7 /etc/update 63 2 22 248 212 120 332 0 332 220 0 0 -sh 69 ? 0 35 32 72 380 0 380 276 316 10 lpd 86 2 9 56 8 80 368 0 368 280 312 8 ps -axm 36 ? 12 21 4 80 328 0 328 256 268 6 /etc/portmap 40 ? 2 33 8 96 380 0 380 276 320 11 /etc/inetd 44 ? 0 0 44 124 444 0 444 276 328 13 /etc/named 48 ? 0 11 20 120 432 0 432 320 332 10 /etc/nfsd -f /et 52 ? 0 36 16 108 416 0 416 316 332 10 /etc/mountd 60 ? 1 36 8 68 356 0 356 280 308 7 syslogd 64 3 8 47 20 52 352 0 352 300 300 5 /bin/getty 9600 65 4 9 47 20 52 352 0 352 300 300 5 /bin/getty 9600 66 5 8 47 20 52 352 0 352 300 300 5 /bin/getty 9600 67 6 8 47 20 52 352 0 352 300 300 5 /bin/getty 9600 Perheaps this has something to do with the fact that my system isn't in a network, which seems to lead to many errors during bootup: [...] Adding Swap: 4092k swap-space /etc/rc.net: softland(192.0.2.128)SIOCSIFFADDR: Invalid argument SIOCGIFFLAGS: Invalid argument SIOCSIFFLAGS: Invalid argument SIOCGIFFLAGS: Invalid argument SIOCSIFFLAGS: Invalid argument SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable , portmap, inetd, namedAug 30 08:41:46 named[43]: restarted [...] The /etc/rc.net isn't changed. It's a SLS 1.03 system, with tcpip.tgz later installed via sysinstall. I know nothing of networking, so I can only hope I've included all the necessary information. If not, please tell me so. Thanx in advance, Ray -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | J.H.M. Dassen | Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the | | Dassen@sthp.wi.LeidenUniv.Nl | voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed | | Dassen@stpc.wi.LeidenUniv.Nl | mission to explore strange new systems and | | | to boldly go where no data has gone before. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: wayne@rose.cs.odu.edu (C Wayne Huling) Subject: SLS 1.03 /conf/* Date: 01 Sep 1993 20:38:30 GMT There are a lot of links from etc to a /conf directory but the SLS base installation did not create this.... does anyone have this configuration file or should I just remove the links and build them in etc ???? I am assuming that this is just trivial problems now, but I am not getting any connectivity to the network from the machine, but all the other machines can ping it???? I looked in to the know bugs defined in the net2-HOWTO, but neither was the case here? Wayne ------------------------------ From: geyer@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Helmut Geyer) Subject: Re: Let's collect KNOWN BUGS Date: Wed, 1 Sep 93 08:32:25 GMT Macy Hallock (macy@telemax.com) wrote: :>In article <1993Aug29.233539.6106@colorado.edu> drew@juliet.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt) writes: :>>A clearing house for bug reports would be extremely useful for the developers :>>and users. :>A moderated newsgroup would be useful for this purpose. The only :>drawback I can think of is: the knowledgable person who moderates :>would have less time to track down and fix the bugs. On the other :>hand, independant confirmation and documentation of a bug is a :>very useful contribution... There is already a newsgroup with this purpose: c.o.l.announce. This newsgroup is not only dedicated to announcements of new ports ... but is intended to be the group in which bugs get announced. It is not yet used for that (or at least not much), but the charter of the c.o.l hierachy is very clear about this. I think a regular posting, a "BUG list", would be useful once this purpose of the newsgroup is used for bug reports, too. Helmut ============================================================================== Helmut Geyer geyer@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de ============================================================================== I speak (and write) | Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. for myself and only | Inside of a dog,it's too dark to read anyway. for myself. | G.Marx ------------------------------ From: mark@macs.ee.mcgill.ca (Mark Kassab) Subject: NFS mounting from Sun + rcp to Sun Reply-To: mark@macs.ee.mcgill.ca Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 23:20:32 GMT Hi, I'm trying to NFS mount a Sun partition onto my Linux system. I'm connected through SLIP. When I issue the mount command, it just hangs. Note that I can mount my Linux partition onto the Sun with no problems. I've got my SLIP interface mtu set to 600. I also have a problem with rcp, which I'm not sure whether it's related. I can rcp a file from the Sun to Linux, but an rcp the other way hangs. Any ideas O' net wizzes? Thanks, Mark ------------------------------ From: okir@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Olaf Kirch) Subject: Re: Net-Admin-Guide CAUTION! Date: 2 Sep 1993 00:24:39 GMT Rick Miller (rick@ee.uwm.edu) wrote: : Don't waste a ton of paper printing the Net Admin Guide, until you've : inserted the proper scaling commands into the PostScript to make it FIT : on LETTER-sized paper (or print it on LEGAL-size). I'm sorry, but when I produced the PS version I used a version of dvips compiled to use a4 paper by default. This will result in missing page numbers etc. Until I make a new version (there also seem to be some problems with the pcitures in some dvips versions), here's a hack that might fix page numbers for you (courtesy Phil Hughes): After the %%BeginProcSet comment, insert /bop-hook {0 -60 translate} def This should give you the page headings. My apologies to everyone Olaf ------------------------------ From: cs438@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Denis Lafont) Subject: Streamers Date: 2 Sep 1993 01:31:36 GMT Hello, I have some tapes created on SunOS (tar, etc..). I want to read them on my Linux system. What streamer must I buy? Thanks, Denis -- _________________________________________________________________ Denis LAFONT, MIS Consultant for SCT (France) Tel: (+33) 35.75.19.43 --------- Fax: (+33) 35.75.43.12 e-mail : cs438@cleveland.freenet.edu -no NeXT Mail please ;-(- ------------------------------ From: aehall@sumax.seattleu.edu (OUTTA HERE!) Subject: [ANNOUNCE] FIXPERMS 0.40!! Date: 1 Sep 1993 19:25:13 -0700 ANNOUNCING FIXPERMS VERSION 0.40! This distribution comes with source and can be found on sunsite.unc.edu in either /pub/Linux/Incoming/fixperms.*.z or (usually) /pub/Linux/system/Admin/fixperms.*.z (where * is version number). Thanks to everyone who has emailed help and suggestions! Keep the comments coming! This latest version adds: checking for relative (rather than absolute) links, check correct major/minor device numbers, parts written in C++ Fixperms allows a sysadmin to set permissions on a list of files. Fixperms also allows the creation of these lists so the permissions can be set at a later date. Fixperms would be especially helpful if a fixperm file were included with program distributions such as mail and lpr. Various programs in these distributions need specific sgid and suid permissions in order to work correctly. Upon installation of mail, for example, fixperms could be run to properly set the owner, group, and permissions of each file in the package. Fixperms allows the programmer of a particular package to create the permissions file to send with a distribution to ensure proper owner, group, and permissions upon installation. If you have any questions, or bug reports, send to: Anthony Hall (aehall@seattleu.edu) ------------------------------ From: pmitchel@david.wheaton.edu (Phyllis Mitchell) Subject: Re: Linux bbs software? Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 00:14:27 GMT In article erc@khijol.uucp (Ed Carp) writes: >greg naber (greg@halcyon.com) wrote: >: >: > Have any bulletin board software packages been ported to Linux? >: >: > Where can such software be found? What are the hardware constraints? >: > >: >: Waffle should work with little hacking - see comp.bbs.waffle. >: > >: >Yeah, but you gotta frigging *buy* it. No, thank you... > >: There are a lot of 'payware' bbs systems being developed for Linux, not >: many 'freeware' bbs systems. At least this one has been around a while and >: has the ability to nntp news. > >: We use a 'donated' copy of waffle from Tom Dell to operate a 'free' email + >: local news service here in Seattle on a Linux 99.11 directly connected via >: ethernet to a T-1. It uses sendmail+ida to send the mail out, and nntp to >: read the local seattle news & job related newsgroups. > >: fry.halcyon.com has been 'up' for approx 3 months and has over 350 casual >: users keeping in touch with freinds around the world. > >: Toms donation allows us to provide these services to the community at no cost >: and still limit what the users are allowed to do. Sorry, telnet into the >: system is not allowed, nor is ftp. For those that wish, you may call into >: +1.206.462.0674 to see fry.halcyon.com and waffle in action. > >: I also use waffle as a bbs interface to my Linux system at home, it too is >: ethernetted to another machine there and is occasionally slipped into the >: net, do a whois squally-net for the ip's if you'd like to try to catch me >: online and check out this system;) > >: We wish to thank Tom Dell for his donation of the waffle bbs for use on >: the fry.halcyon.com system, and support his efforts at making a quailty bbs >: system available to those who use *nix type systems, at an affordable price. > > > >Not to denigrate Tom's contribution to the BBS world, but in contrast to >MS-DOS based BBS systems, waffle is pathetic. But so is damn near every other >BBS system I've seen for unix. Even the free ones for MS-DOS are miles >ahead of the best that unix has to offer. With RIP graphics now available, >MS-DOS BBS systems are pulling even farther ahead. > >Most unix-based BBS systems don't even have curses-based menus... :( >-- >Ed Carp, N7EKG erc@apple.com 510/659-9560 > anon-0001@khijol.uucp >If you want magic, let go of your armor. Magic is so much stronger than >steel! -- Richard Bach, "The Bridge Across Forever" I am not into graphics or anything for bbs's and I haven't found anything that has as good an interface as a bbs called babel of the citadel line, running in 64k on a CP/M system, at least from the unix areana. Yes I have tried cit/UX,which should be more propperly titled cit/SUX. If anybody wrote a propper bbs for unix, one where the user could login through login, not the bbs's interpretation therof, and be even a decade behind the times, the author would be next in line of reverence only to the Great Linus himself. ------------------------------ From: d0ess@dtek.chalmers.se (Erik Stenvall) Subject: Re: Another printing problem (Was Re: "lpd" won't run) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 06:39:40 GMT dassen@sthp.wi.leidenuniv.nl (J.H.M. Dassen) writes: >In article <746736010snz@chrism.demon.co.uk> chris@chrism.demon.co.uk writes: >>My problem is that the printer daemon "lpd" refuses to run. If I run it, >>it terminates with no error messages immediately (exit code 0, if that >>helps). When I try to print through "lpr" I get the message "job queued, >>but no daemon present". When I run the printer control program lpc and This is intresting! I have the same problem as well but I did manage to get my lpd working. When I recompiled the kernel without TCP I found that lpd now worked quite OK. The sad thing is that a kernel without TCP is not OK since X wont run. I'm no socket-guru so I haven't looked deeper into it though. /Erik -- I d0ess@dtek.chalmers.se I Skrota iso9000... I I Erik Stenvall (D90) I ...teknologs{kert skall det vara! I ------------------------------ From: rogerb@x.co.uk (Roger Binns) Subject: Printing to switched off printer Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 17:54:24 GMT I have managed to setup lpr & lpc & lpd correctly so that I can print (including postscript) to my deskjet printer. The only problem is that the kernel is quite happy for me to print to /dev/lp1 even if the printer is switched off! MS-Dos can detect if it is turned off, so it is possible. Any answers/ experiences anyone? Roger -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Roger Binns | "I can't even begin to think what they think about" | | rogerb@x.co.uk | - Audrey I, Little Shop of Horrors. | +--------- two wheels good, four wheels bad ---------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: fyl@fylz.com (Phil Hughes) Subject: Re: Net-Admin-Guide CAUTION! (easy fix) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 14:59:59 GMT David Gaudine (david@donald.concordia.ca) wrote: : In article <25vpb7INNs3o@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller) writes: : >Don't waste a ton of paper printing the Net Admin Guide, until you've : >inserted the proper scaling commands into the PostScript to make it FIT : >on LETTER-sized paper (or print it on LEGAL-size). : : I didn't have any such problem, using the .ps file. My only problem was : that the page numbers don't appear on most pages. The document is set up for A4 paper but the pages are short enough to fit on 8.5 x 11" paper. And you don't need to add 200 add commands. The following line, inserted near the beginning of the file (I put it after the %%BeginProcSet: comment) solves the problem: /bop-hook {0 -60 translate} def For those who care, bop-hook is referenced in the beginning of page code (called bop). If bop-hook is defined, it is executed. This definition says move the image down 60/72" which seems to work fine. -- Phil Hughes - FYL - 8315 Lk City Wy NE - Suite 207 - Seattle, WA 98115 Phone: 206-526-2919 Fax: 526-0803 E-mail: fyl@fylz.com or !fylz!fyl ------------------------------ From: tange@daimi.aau.dk (Ole Tange) Subject: Re: Let's collect KNOWN BUGS Date: 2 Sep 1993 10:39:03 GMT >:>A moderated newsgroup would be useful for this purpose. The only >:>drawback I can think of is: the knowledgable person who moderates >:>would have less time to track down and fix the bugs. On the other >:>hand, independant confirmation and documentation of a bug is a >:>very useful contribution... And if we post the solution as a shell-script, then the new users can easily fix the bugs too. -- -- Never (NEVER) run elm and rmail simultanously tange@daimi.aau.dk ------------------------------ From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) Subject: Re: Printing to switched off printer Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 11:50:13 GMT In article rogerb@x.co.uk (Roger Binns) writes: >I have managed to setup lpr & lpc & lpd correctly so that I can print >(including postscript) to my deskjet printer. The only problem is that >the kernel is quite happy for me to print to /dev/lp1 even if the printer is >switched off! > >MS-Dos can detect if it is turned off, so it is possible. Any answers/ >experiences anyone? MS-DOS also won't print to some printers because it thinks they're always off or are on only until the printer actually prints something... there appear to be some standards problems in the area of flow control signaling. I saw this on several PCs including a true IBM XT. Of course, not being the author of the parallel driver, I don't know if that's actually related. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org "MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development." ---dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca ------------------------------ From: chris@chrism.demon.co.uk (Chris Marriott) Subject: Re: "lpd" won't run Reply-To: chris@chrism.demon.co.uk Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 21:36:28 +0000 In article <746736010snz@chrism.demon.co.uk> chris@chrism.demon.co.uk writes: >My problem is that the printer daemon "lpd" refuses to run. If I run it, >it terminates with no error messages immediately (exit code 0, if that >helps). When I try to print through "lpr" I get the message "job queued, >but no daemon present". When I run the printer control program lpc and >give the "restart" command I get the message: > Thanks to everyone who sent me e-mail! My problem was that I hadn't created the directory "/var/spool/lpd". I created that, ran "lpd" and the printer instantly sprang into action, and printed the (lengthy!) queue. Thanks again, Chris -- ========================================================================== | Chris Marriott | chris@chrism.demon.co.uk | | Warrington, UK | 100113.1140@compuserve.com | | Save the whales. Collect the whole set. | CompuServe: 100113,1140 | ========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: n62274@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de (Kl.Schaefers) Subject: Re: XDM bug/Shadow passwords. Date: 2 Sep 93 13:01:07 GMT Geir Harris Hedemark writes: >Has anyone with the knowledge to hack the source for xdm noticed that it >never takes a look at the shadow password file? I am using Xfree86-1.3 >from sunsite.unc.edu. Or maybe someone has fixed this already? :-) yes, same for me. The "new Shadow xdm" from SLS-1.03 does _nothing_ for me. No reply to XDMCP request, no local login possible :-) I've now compiled an older version from nic.funet , and got the funet set. Now it works for some time, perhaps 2 hours, before the hole Box blows up. Linux pl12 or whatever, net-2 it is terrible ! Every thing of own interest has to be compiled later. >Geir good luck Klaus -- / \ n62274@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de << * >> klaus@elostar.ms.sub.org \ / Fidonet: 2:242/55.21 Realname: Klaus Schaefers ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Admin-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via: Internet: Linux-Admin@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Admin Digest ******************************